Great 6-Cylinder Engines, Stiff Ride Quality (Mazda CX-60 2023 Review)

[@chasingcars]

Much of the CX-60 can be summed up as "this is really great - shame about the ride." I go into more detail about what needs to be done about the suspension in my written review. See that for additional context: www.chasingcars.com.au/reviews/midsize-suvs/mazda-cx-60-2023-review/

[@CampbellSimpson]

how many KMs on your tester? Any chance those springs and bushings would settle a bit after 5000km? Either way, sounds too sporty for the school run.

[@chasingcars]

@@CampbellSimpson Good questions. The test car (our long termer) had 2000-2500km on the clock in this video, because it's been used for some marketing photography. I'll definitely monitor how the suspension beds in (which can happen) as I anticipate getting the car up to 10,000km in its time with us.

[@pradeepmagan6951]

Shame as unlikely to sell , they need couple of good EV’s

[@stephturnbull6022]

@@chasingcarsjust wondering if the update on the long term test for the Mazda CX-60 might be on the horizon by any chance (unless I’ve missed it)?

[@TheEntelexia]

People who complain about the lack of touchscreens in the Mazda range simply haven't spent enough time using the system. It's so easy to use and at the end of the day, safer for everyone. They have done an excellent job making it intuitive.

[@chasingcars]

Yes, I prefer the rotary controller.

[@simonr23]

it sucks for smartphone mirroring. you cant get past that. you have to spend a long time watching the screen as you use the dial. that is never safer than a quick tap.

[@aygeeninty771]

I believe the hardware is touchscreen with ability in Apple Carplay.

[@davidrome6066]

I've owned a current model manual Astina 3 since 2019 and the dial infotainment system is perfect, I'm glad it's not a touchscreen and once you get use to the position of the controls you'll never want touch.

[@markanderson3618]

Perhaps you should mention that it IS a touchscreen, and that the touchscreen can be enabled for CarPlay and AA while driving through the settings.

[@TheBrando609]

Australian Mazda salesman here, just wanted to point out that when using carplay it can be used as a touchscreen, it just needs to be enabled in the options :) I hope this helps!

[@Undisputed_King]

Cool

[@masoudj1185]

Is touch available on Android Auto as well?

[@indetailcarcaresolutions3770]

Touch screens are so 20th century. I moved from a Mazda CX-5 GT last year and the two biggest things I miss are the HUD and direct screen access through the adjustment knob. No stretching, bumpy roads don’t interfere with access and no fingerprints!!! All cars should get rid of touch access to their screens. Lloyd

[@rossbuchanan3016]

Have a petrol gt model and have found the ride to be less firm than the CX 5 I used to own. Surprisingly good but still nicely firm! Who wants a yank tank that is only good in a straight line?

[@chengchiwo]

I test drove both 3.3t petrol and 2.5 phev on urban roads last weekend. Exterior look is actually fantastic and Mazda red is shining out easily. The car is elegant and well-proportioned when you see it in person. Interior atmosphere is phenomenal. Material quality is definitely on par with most German luxury brands. Personally not a big fan of large screens as you mainly focus on road being the driver. Compared to cx5,. it’s also roomer inside and I sit comrtortably at the back (1.8m). The new (for Mazda) Para Sun roof is a must. In terms of driving, 3.3t petrol is puncher especially when it goes above 50km+ and its 6 cyclinders sounds more refined. 2.5 phev is ideal for low speed cruising at city as it seems handle lower speed better with ev assist. The ev experience is similar to toyota hybrid but then it’s a lot more powerful. When curising around town, you can’t say it’s an agile car given its weight but but body roll is well-controlled and steering is accurate. The only downside to me is the gear shifting - it’s quite vauge at lower speed and not as direct as it’s 6-speed auto ( yet not as hesitated as VW dsg nor Benz 7-speeds so it’s still doing fine). Also CX-60 suspension is on firmer side but then it's is not unacceptable when going through bumps. I also watched many US CX-90 reviews recently and it seems the above 2 issues are not as visible as CX-60 - am wondering if Mazda did some tweaks already. Overall it’s not prefect with some shortcomings but the 6 cyclinders engine setup defintely shines. For people who consider Lexus or Mercedes they should test drive and test it out. 3.3t GT range is about 73k drive away which is the bestbuy in its ranges.

[@chasingcars]

Thanks for the remarks.

[@daweigo6851]

What did U think of the overall ride quality?

[@chengchiwo]

@@daweigo6851 I think Mazda targeted cx-60 as a sporty suv this it’s on firmer side compared to cx-5. Even say so, its something acceptable and I found no issues during my test drive, when going roundabout or bumps. My friend who is driving a GLC diesel also happy with the ride.

[@AshGrantASH8]

CX-60 has been out in Europe UK for 6 months, initial production had wrong shocks and sways and were all replace before delivery. There is a 1-2 shift shock at low RPM, light throttle. Many complaints but there is also a TCM software update just out. I would presume Australian stock would already have this update if made after about mid March 2023. CX-90 in USA also has this low speed 1-2 shift shock, I expect an update to TCM in near future.

[@johnbryan5206]

​@@chengchiwoand in

[@davidarter6271]

Sounds like an excellent car, Tom. Particularly for people like me who prefer a slightly firmer ride than most. Also, for those of us who eschew EV’s as impractical for my use, and CVT transmissions which are generally awful under the Welly a diesel one of these appears to be an excellent option for a long term car. I am VERY interested to see how the car pans out over the longer period and how it compares to other cars. An excellent first review, Tom, for which I thank you.

[@chasingcars]

Thanks for watching.

[@aygeeninty771]

I get my petrol GT next week but after test drive my opinion of suspension was it was very floaty on rebound and soft with bit too much roll. This added to the experience when hard on throttle with the pushing you in seat feeling. I'll need to have more seat time but first impression was a good set of Eibach springs might help for my taste. Engine was very strong and noise was cool in sport mode. Didnt notice any bad behaviour from gearbox and shifts were smooth. Brakes feel different perhaps related to the regen and you can hear the electric noises on slow down. Overall the car is awesome 👌

[@chasingcars]

Yes, the suspension is overdamped, which is why you’re getting that sensation of floaty rebound (but not pogo). Nothing a set of springs and dampers properly dialled in won’t fix. You’re just more advanced than most in considering doing so!

[@aygeeninty771]

@@chasingcars Underdamped I think. FYI Koni just released a video with a new shock which came up in my feed. I'll try to find out if its compatible with my g40e.

[@TheYoyoma3]

Will be curious to see how this sells, I think people who spend that much money are generally brand conscious

[@chasingcars]

Yes, it'll be an interesting one to watch. I would note, though, that the six-cylinder Evolve trim is a pretty great deal.

[@Dynamacrtm]

Indeed. I don't think anyone has been successful selling mass market and premium under the same brand, esp the failures at vw on that front. If they really want the new series to work, cx-5 to 9 has to be retired. Mazda seems to be doing everything against the industry trend. It's as if they are saying we can't compete head to head now and let's just try to grab that niche market that no one wants anymore. But how many does that sell?

[@ericshutter5305]

Sales are thru the roof ... but the hard ride is still an issue to solve by Mazda.

[@jaydensims-mclaren5895]

Work for a Mazda dealership and have seen heaps of these been delivered already and have only been in the showroom for 3 weeks

[@aussieebayfashion]

Statistics show many people can afford luxury vehicles don't care about brands, including myself, switching from a x3 to cx60

[@cloze6393]

Brought the GT petrol and quite happy with the ride/ tech so far. Considering the price of a new X3 -north $100k, NX 350H $86K, actually it is a pretty good deal if you want a premium family SUV. Inflation is crazy these days, GLC 300 can cost you over 112k. NX's suspension is a disgrace and I reckon CX-60 is still a driver's car.

[@chasingcars]

Glad to hear you are enjoying it, and yes, the pricing feels about right.

[@daweigo6851]

Why do you say that re NX? Reviews don't mention any issues..?

[@phill5816]

Drove the GT Petrol on the weekend. Decent performance, ride and handling were superb. Felt strong, planted and also felt like it will be with you for the next 10+yrs without issues. I deliberately went over a few minor pot holes and it wasn't an issue on the 20" tyres. Great car except at the price point it's going to make you say, $80k for a Mid size SUV is a touch rich. But, hey $80 is the new $40 so that's where we are. People will struggle with the value equation though

[@chasingcars]

Did quite a bit of urban and country work and can’t say I agree on the ride, but the performance and handling are nice.

[@davidrome6066]

@@chasingcars I'll be testing the diesel demo from Orange Mazda this weekend and our roads around our area in Orange are appalling so I'll let you know whether the roads you drove on are like lino or I could agree with you.

[@daweigo6851]

Funny how you had no issue with the ride.? But Tom did.

[@chefgav1]

@@daweigo6851ride and handling has been a issues with pretty much every reviewer

[@phill5816]

Update. Bought the GT Petrol. I rode over rough stuff, highway and suburban streets and seriously didn't have any ride issues. No brainer decision.

[@rudy7631]

I own a CX-60 Takumi PHEV. I had it for 10 months. I complained about the stiffness and they replaced the four shock absorbers. The difference is noticeable. They also improved the soundproofing on the doors that added more quietness. As I run 80 % on electric the savings are quite significant.On long journeys the consumption after battery depleted is 7,5 km/l. Please note that there is a setting that allows to use CarPlay with touchscreen stationary or on he go. Great video!

[@jam4763]

I almost bought this car but found out that if and when the battery fails after 8 years it costs 36k to replace.

[@rudy7631]

The battery has a guarantee of 8 years. This does not mean it will fail. The price of such battery in eight years is unknown as well. Even if the battery is degraded you might loose 20 to 25% of EV only range. The car is completely usable, unless something else goes badly wrong.@@jam4763

[@aussie8114]

@@jam4763In 8 years the car won’t even be worth that much, so it would be a right off.

[@craigodrz400sm]

I took an Azumi Phev for a test drive last week. We currently own a CX5. My impressions were that the ride quality is far superior to CX5. I found it much more upmarket than CX5 ride quality.. We have CX 60 GT hybrid pre-ordered and expect delivery next week. Most of your comments were fairly accurate to my thinking just not buying into the firmness of suspension deal. Thanks

[@ericshutter5305]

Just ride a few times on speed-bumps and bumpy roads... you'll change your opinion. And Yes, I'm the owner of a late productions CX-60 PHEV with all the updates installed. Still not as good as my CX-5 was.

[@aygeeninty771]

I agree. Own a G40e GT and ride quality is fine. More importantly it handles very well when you push harder. The car is awesome 👌

[@MrAlex180974]

Hi Tom, I really like your reviews they are very informative. I liked your Subaru Outback XT comparison with the non turbo. Could you you please do a Mazda CX60 3.3 Petrol VS the Outback XT. As one of the two will be my new car by the end of the year. Thanks Alex.

[@tlevans62]

It has touch screen features for phone mirroring, it’s in the settings. You just have to turn it on.

[@chasingcars]

As I’m already discovering on the long termer

[@tlevans62]

@@chasingcars how are the seats, Tom? Mazda seats can be narrow and hard near your hips, are these better?

[@chasingcars]

First impression was a significant improvement over the old Triton - seat is more shapely but could use a bit more side bolstering

[@tlevans62]

@@chasingcarsthanks for the reply Tom. I really want to get a diesel with the same interior you have on that long termer. Beautiful car, and that six is magic. Cheers.

[@slesers]

Bought CX60 D 254hp version. After FPace it's quite stiffer, but diesel is killer. Dynamic/economy is crazy. For now happy. In Latvia I can get with 6y warranty what makes deal really sweet

[@hellothere4342]

You get a feeling that the inline 6 petrol is ripe for aftermarket mods. Only a matter of time someone will squeeze one into an MX5.

[@yslee1401]

I would not park this car in the same limelight as Volvo XC60 and BMW X3. It’s way better and does not breakdown prematurely like the Chinese and German brands

[@chasingcars]

We'll see over time!

[@petarcholakov5269]

the ride is firm, not stiff. And i preffer it in front of prancing vehicle that are hard to control. Though i have to say i am very dissapointed from PHEV fuel consumption. On a highway, when your trip is over 200km , it goes over 8L/100 km. But overal the avg. consumption considering city/highway is 5,4l/100km. I don't how the diesel is?

[@davidrome6066]

What a great video test as an avid Mazda owner from 1981 and my current drive is a 2019 manual Mazda 3 Astina hatch. My Govo lease ends Aug '24 and as much as I don't want to give up driving a manual (preloved MX5 will be sourced) I'm thinking of going SUV. My choice was a 2.5T CX5 Akera as since you have top spec you don't go backwards. After watching your test I have been swayed to the diesel CX60 since I do alot of regional long drives Orange - Sydney, Orange - Port Macquarie on a regular basis. I love your colour choice of your long term car and I'll be so watching for future updates. As for the infotainment system I'm so use to and LOVE the dial operation, touchscreen is distracting as once you get use to the dials and controls, drop hand off the centre console and you can navigate it well. Well done 10/10

[@chasingcars]

Thanks David.

[@paulscountrygarage9180]

Great video Tom. I’d been waiting for you to do the CX60, thanks. One little bugbear I do have is “RPMs”. It’s Revolutions Per Minute so already plural. So, if using the abbreviation, it is just RPM! I’ll go now. 😎

[@chasingcars]

Haha, point taken. Thank you.

[@_hold_the_line_]

Mazda may fix the suspension with the mid life update. That would make it interesting.

[@ericshutter5305]

Stiff ride quality indeed. But there seems to be a solution ... replacing the standard dampers with Koni Special Active dampers should improve the quality a lot. Already ordered a set and they get installed half august... 3 weeks and counting down 😁

[@vitalyfedorov6713]

Hi, can you follow up on the ride quality after installation of the Koni dampers?

[@timborach7643]

How'd the damper change go?

[@bwingonwoger3354]

Hey Tom, nice review, thanks. I’m seriously considering one of these. Mazda has got a lot right here. I’m somewhat shocked at the weight though and good as the diesel may be, what’s the point? Governments are going to legislate them out of existence. They aren’t much cheaper to run either when you consider that the petrol model will run on E10 or 91 and diesel fuel costs so much more. I’m not interested in the EV or hybrid proposition either it would be petrol for me.

[@JB-fq9dp]

We need this in the states!!! C'mon Mazda!

[@prathyushprasad7518]

CX-60 looks like the Maserati Levante from the side profile...✨️✨️...

[@gordonclark7632]

Interesting video on the CX60. I am waiting to see the sedan with the inline6 if we get it. I have seen some US videos on the Mazda SUV and the reviewer commented on the auto gearbox similarly as you. It could be a thing to watch during your long term reviews to see if it is going to be successful.

[@chasingcars]

Will keep a close eye on the auto 'box in preparing our long-term content. I'm still hopeful for a sedan or wagon on the RWD platform but I do not expect Mazda to do one.

[@prowler13prowler]

apple carplay and android auto can be controlled on the touch screen, whle standing, anad ce be set to be controlled when driving also.....

[@philipfoster7269]

I'm in the UK. I have test driven and ordered a PHEV version. I think maybe if I had driven as many cars as you guys do for a living I'd likely come to the same conclusions with regard to ride and refinement. But I come from a Kia Niro and I don't have the references that you have so to me, the CX60 is a bit of a revelation.

[@ericshutter5305]

buy the CX-60 PHEV only with the Koni Special Active shocks... THEN you get a good ride on all those speed bumps. Just a must have option for the PHEV version 👍

[@Sea0tter]

Great video. Had mine 6 months and spot on with good and bad points.

[@thenorthwatch777]

Great review for a start. Looking forward to more especially the CX90

[@chasingcars]

CX-90 review on Australian roads coming next month.

[@vustatube]

Did i miss it, but i don't see the cost of ownership for this car, eg maintenance cost and service intervals

[@twinrotors]

20 inch wheels are a no go for Australian roads.... Both my cars have needed 19 inch or the small 18s.

[@jackmeyer7435]

I am looking forward to picking up my cx 60 plug in on Friday mod I selected GT with vision pack in the new white

[@chasingcars]

Enjoy the car.

[@markelliott6105]

Test drove same spec on Saturday and agree with your comments. Probably a bit less harsh on the ride quality and I made sure of some very broken concrete roads. I’d probably still downspec to the 18” though - chasing handling in a 2 ton SUV is a bit silly IMO. The diesel is sensational and the consumption for so much torque in a 2 ton vehicle is astonishing. I’d seriously question the hybrid running cost advantage at current electricity prices. An annoying question remains: Why the lower towing limit in the diesel? If it’s because of smaller brakes, then why does it have smaller brakes? Nobody at Mazda seem to be able to answer this. Along with a low payload and low boot space I honestly thought the brochure must have some bodgy cut and pasting.

[@chasingcars]

On towing, the answer I have been given (which didn't make this video - I'm sorry) is that it is a cooling limitation, and that Mazda's engineers in Japan are very conservative around that kind of thing, so they have downrated the towing. Mazda Australia is aware of it. As for spec, yes, I think the D50e Evolve on 18s is a pretty good thing once you option the Luxury package - just wish you could get a stone/beige interior with that pack, but you're limited to black leather.

[@JayFromOuterspace]

I want fog lights/more accent lighting on front

[@faisals5]

What model/brand your sunglasses are, please?

[@michaelzerk]

I was looking forward to the inline 6, rear wheel drive 6 wagon. The concept cars looked great. Have Mazda definitely scrapped that car?

[@chasingcars]

Mazda has really played down the idea that they will do a Mazda 6 on the RWD platform, which is sad.

[@ejohnstacey]

Thank you - excellent review. Best I have viewed. My dealer is chasing me to order so I was interested in your comments about the ride. I have a 2020 CX5 Akari and love it but want to try the petrol mild hybrid. Why is it mild and not full like Toyotas? Also turn your sound up a bit please -had to strain at times to hear and its not my PC as other video reviews were much much louder.

[@aygeeninty771]

Hi John, I've got a g40e GT. Ride is good and similar over bumps to CX5. But the car is well insulated and most importantly handles well. So it's not as smooth as a RAV4 or Kluger but the steering accuracy is way better and it just feels good for performance driving. Depends what your used to but for me moving from sports car its like butter. In terms of Hybrid (when iStop is left in default on position) it only cuts the engine off when coasting (off throttle) and obviously stopped. It doesn't move the vehicle on electric motor alone like a Toyota Hybrid. The electric motor assist with power (M Hybrid Boost) and initial take off without you knowing. Power output of the electric motor is approx 18hp. You might notice some slight electric regen noises as you slow down charging the 48v battery. In the old days when fuel was cheap you wouldn't bother with this complexity just add more fuel & boost pressure. My advice is buy this car if you appreciate it's more performance orientated but if you drive slow and want ultimate comfort then it may not be worth it.

[@ejohnstacey]

@@aygeeninty771 Thank you for a great reply. I love the performance of my CX5 with the turbo so I do want performance. Just wondering whether to wait for a 2024 model as Mazda will have ironed out any initial problems. In the "old days" you wouldn't buy a newly released model because of possible teething problems. And I haven't found out how long delivery is on an Azuma yet so it may be a few months anyway. Will go and check it out next week as the car has now arrived in WA. Thanks again for taking time to reply.

[@alans1313]

i agonised about waiting for this car to come out before i bough my CX-5 akera diesel ,i watched every review from overseas and after a long period decided on the -5,,,,once i saw that the 6cyc diesel had only a 2000kg towing capacity ,,,the same as cx5, i thought what ami really getting for all the extra cash,,the 0 to 100 is not much difference ,the fuel saving is great , but the main thing is i wanted the lovely nappa leather and the price difference to get the 60 with that is a bit much,,,i will still test drive one just to see what its like to drive,,, very very happy with the diesel cx5 akera,,

[@chasingcars]

CX-5 diesel is still a really good car

[@DLL-y4p]

Some manufacturers can make good cars but cannot move to a higher tier because their engineers don't drive their own cars everyday - Ride quality is the fundamental factor for success or failure for any model

[@chasingcars]

I agree ride is very important in this segment

[@dyemanoz]

I assume the diesels have a dpf. If so, and it works anything like the CX5 diesel, the dpf "cleaning" cycle may be in operation for around 10% of the time. During that time CX5 fuel consumption is doubled because of the fuel injected into the exhaust cycle to burn off soot in the dpf. Will be interested to hear how this works out in a newer engine design.

[@davehogan6401]

Mazda Diesel......shivers

[@paul--b]

The 0-100 times seem slow for a big turbo engine, 7.3 is the diesel? How about the petrol?

[@chasingcars]

I might wait until we can independently time the cars ourselves.

[@aygeeninty771]

6.6 for the petrol.

[@kokosaitamalifeguard]

The top-of-the-line, fully equipped PHEV models are the "Premium Sport" and "Premium Modern", priced in Japanese yen ¥6,264,500. The Australian dollar equivalent is $66,156.

[@nizm0man]

+$10k Australia tax + delivery + rego costs

[@joepeluso3864]

It’s funny the ride is poor in a Porsche Macan Gts, but reviewers don’t mention it in the title. Ps they don’t mention it in the video either.

[@Tim_in_Australia]

I test-drove the diesel version of this car yesterday. The power, interior design, and exterior appearance are impressive. It felt great driving on flat roads. However, the road noise was quite loud when driving over coarse chip at speed. It's not a quiet highway cruiser; instead, it's loud and boomy. The suspension feels cheap and doesn't effectively absorb bumps or road imperfections. Additionally, there was a small rattle in the dashboard. Overall, I would not recommend this car yet, but I'd like to one day, after Mazda do the engineering properly, and address the asking price. Its unresolved.

[@kakavo1]

Is meant to be a car for family,I want to know how that works in your future videos

[@anthonywarwick6090]

Thanks Tom. The best video on this vehicle so far now the inline 6 variants are here. I have a straight 6 petrol Azami on order in Platinum Quartz. A little concerned about the ride quality. Thinking of downsizing the wheels which would be unfortunate as you pay more for the Azami package which includes the 20 inch wheels. It’s a shame the diesel doesn’t have the same towing capacity as the straight six. I want mine for towing a caravan and most comparable vehicles such as Lexus, BMW X3 Audi Q5 or Volvo XC60 (actually more expensive too) don’t have sufficient maximum down ball weight for anything other than a very light weight EU or UK vans which was a factor in choosing the CX60 over those options

[@chasingcars]

An Azami on 18s would probably be quite a nice package, actually. Bit niche, but downsizing the wheels would be possible.

[@mharro88]

Stiff ride quality is exactly what I crave for handling. Fuck floaty SUVs

[@chasingcars]

Then this will be perfect! There is something for everyone.

[@proflex310]

We need CX60 in US !

[@robg1176]

Love that there are separate climate and volume controls, really sets it apart. Was hoping this might be my next car, but EVERY review comments on the harsh suspension. Mazda-what are your engineers doing?

[@chasingcars]

Same, love the interior ergonomics. But yes, the suspension needs a bit of a rethink.

[@DMcOz_Down_Under]

Superbly in-depth review of an impressive vehicle, Tom. Thanks! Where is the beautiful location this was filmed (coastal towns)?

[@chasingcars]

This is Mollymook on the NSW south coast.

[@michaelnefedov2267]

Since it will be in your garage, I would like to get hoist review. Does it look premium underneath?

[@chasingcars]

Will see if it’s possible

[@aussie8114]

If the suspension is not good for our crappy roads then it won’t be a car I will buy. My CX5 will stay with me until they get the CX60 right.

[@pjb5594]

You can buy a CX60 now , there’s a recall to replace the shocks. 😉

[@aussie8114]

@@pjb5594 No, if I consider one I will wait a few years for the bugs to be sorted out. Mostly suspension and transmission. I think they may even fit it with adaptive suspension. That’s a good reason to consider the CX5, it’s well sorted out now.

[@oggyoggy1299]

Wow! That is incredible fuel economy.

[@chasingcars]

Very impressive. Let's see how it goes long term

[@pauld6556]

Brand snobs wanting a luxury SUV and looking to spend north of $80,000 won’t consider a Mazda. Mazda still has the “ohh you drive a Mazda, good cars” reputation.

[@chasingcars]

Guess we'll see. There were already some grades of CX-9 that were pushing $80K on the road, so it isn't entirely new terrain in that sense

[@aakashneupnae7373]

@@chasingcarsbut that’s because for seven row SUV’s you have to spend 120k+ for other luxury brands. This is very similar to the price of Lexus NX 350, so who buys this over that?

[@chasingcars]

Perhaps somebody that wants an inline-six rather than a turbo four.

[@patrickgagnon9662]

Rather be able to drive with spirit than Body roll and understeer ....some people choose other cars for soft ride and numb steering , just my choice to be able to DRIVE.

[@karentiger5117]

They need a cx 40 with dual range 4x4 and lifted body

[@seapen9608]

In short, wait for the next update model to see if Mazda sorts out the minor issues.

[@joshung007]

Got a CX5 myself on 17" wheels and I got to say the firm ride does take a while to get used to, especially having owned other brands that implement a more floaty/plush ride. The CX5's ride quality would be my upper limit with regards to firmness. Obviously, the tradeoff is that it feels planted on highways and you can chuck it into corners without worrying too much about body roll. I can only imagine how jarring the CX60 would feel over bumps and potholes. Thinking twice now about owning a CX60.

[@chasingcars]

And the CX-5 on 17s is more plush than a CX-5 on 19s, which in turn is more plush than a CX-60 on 20s.

[@joshung007]

Exactly. Yes, Mazda definitely needs to tone down the firmness.

[@libiskit]

tbh I got the cx 5 on 19 and I love it. comes down to what u want😊

[@everymangamer1608]

Bro thee cx5 on 17s is so plush and comfy and there's a ton of body roll?? No idea how you think it's firm? It's so soft and refined.

[@joshung007]

@@everymangamer1608 you've obviously never driven a RAV4 hybrid. That vehicle is worlds apart in terms of firmness and body roll.

[@maxinlux6570]

In Europe at least Koni make as set of bespoke adaptive dampers for the CX 60 PEHV and, AFAIK, the Diesels as well. Mine are on order from the dealer, blows the suspension warranty out of the water but worth a punt for the price, plus I get to keep my OEM dampers (+/- 2000Km), so a no-brainer for me-

[@chasingcars]

Wow - would love to test them. Are you Europe or Australia based?

[@maxinlux6570]

@@chasingcars Europe- You're going to ask me to send you a set, right? 🤣

[@johnjohnjohn353]

Wow,, finally it’s here.😊

[@chasingcars]

It's been a reasonably long time coming!

[@johnjohnjohn353]

@@chasingcars True, I’ve been waiting for it ever since it was launched in Europe last year. I was able to view it at the Mazda office when they brought the grey colour one some months back. It looked quite good, however two things which didn’t appear to be quite PREMIUM were the back seat space and the door closing sound. Couldn’t get a test drive back then though. With the long wait for the actual launch, I’ve gone ahead and booked a Mahindra xuv700, which seemed to be good compromise for now. Now that cx60 is here, can’t wait to get a test drive of the petrol one to see if I should change mind from xuv700, if cx60 is premium enough etc. 😊

[@pauld6556]

Mahindra and Mazda are miles apart!

[@johnjohnjohn353]

@@pauld6556 Indeed they are, and I’ve been wanting to be sure about it.😊 But just couldn’t get to experience one yet. Hopefully will get a test drive soon and know if it’s worth the premium.😊

[@johnjohnjohn353]

@@chasingcarsFinally drove the Petrol version today, loved it. The engine is so good, it was just fun driving through the Adelaide hills. 😊

[@JimboJones99]

This or the Lexus NX350H F Sport?

[@christianalvarez7799]

Great choice for a long term car

[@chasingcars]

Thanks. Let's see how it goes.

[@bbking0064]

I found the seats on the last two CX-5's I owned were not as comfortable as they should have been. Does the CX-60 solve this?

[@chasingcars]

My first impression was that the seat in the CX-60 has more depth, with a longer seat base. But I will need to test it for a longer period (with our long-term test vehicle) to give you a definitive answer - I will make sure that comes up in our long-term video content.

[@fredhal8681]

The cameras at 4:00 is so 2010 quality. Still has the dividers and even then the image quality is subpar.

[@WorksOnMyComputer]

It's a new platform and it certainly seems to have some rough edges that need some more work. I suspect in five years time it will be a much nicer car, after Mazda has had a couple of goes at refining and reengineering the version one feel out of it. That all said, I am equally interested to see if the move to premium works for Mazda. As a Mazda buyer of several decades, I'm just going to say it, that I would want a lower price point for this car. Yes it looks very nice, but I wouldn't be forking out the money for a Mazda at those prices. I think they are taking a big gamble that they don't leave their old customers behind, while not gaining enough new customers to make the change in market position viable. Time will tell.

[@chasingcars]

Agree, I can't wait to see the running changes that are inevitably made to the platform to polish the things that weren't properly finished by launch

[@lornestein7248]

I'm waiting for the launch here in Canada for CX-70. Been saving my cash for 2 years. I've been an Acura fan for many years and not sure if this is a better choice for me than a RDX. I've always believed you should never buy a 1st year production model. Might be willing to wait a few years to iron out the realized issues too.

[@xchazz86]

I can hear all the cabin rattles in the video... in a brand new prodction model?

[@chasingcars]

Yes, this is a production model. The stiff ride doesn’t help interior refinement and you can hear some rattles. I’ll track this in our long termer and report back.

[@xchazz86]

@@chasingcars ty sir look forward to the video

[@karentiger5117]

You can turn on touch screen

[@ben7020]

Load it up with the family and pull a 1t trailer with it ;)

[@MM-yp1oy]

This trim cx60 or base model cx90?

[@chasingcars]

We will know once we test the CX-90 on local roads next month!

[@anthonywarry339]

If you’re complaining about any car not having a touch screen you don’t deserve to drive a new car. Go home and lock yourself in your room and scroll your phone to satisfy yourself until you fall asleep.

[@Dynamacrtm]

It's interesting point that their focus was a great diesel with phev being an after thought . While I appreciate the choice offered I do question their over arching strategy. Diesel sales esp in Europe has fallen off a cliff, replaced by NEV sales. Certainly engineers leading finance executives. But what does the future hold? I'd rather mazda be around in 10 years that enjoy good rwd biased combustion cars with an expiry date

[@chasingcars]

Yes, it is very interesting. An unusual gamble in 2023. Mazda promises its BEV portfolio will grow from 2025-ish out to a dedicated platform at the end of the decade, but clearly they do see the potential in continuing to sell combustion vehicles like this on a new platform

[@stefcep]

Why get the diesel for along term tester?

[@honeyisaac]

that is the exact spec and colour I consider getting

[@chasingcars]

Nice.

[@DaNavMan]

Please tell us about the headlights and how they perform on unlit roads. Specifically the adaptive beam function.

[@chasingcars]

Will do from our long-term testing. The launch program was held during the day.

[@yahyayarim5774]

Rica etsem altyazılardaki otomatik çeviri seçmeklerine Türkçe dil seçeneği ekleyebilir misiniz ? Sizi anlamak ve takip etmek istiyorum !!!

[@tigs2576]

Great journalism.

[@chasingcars]

Thank you

[@JasonChristian]

You have the best review so far. But I haven’t seen one in the road so far. And it has been months after the launch. Tough sell ? Or just delayed delivery?

[@chasingcars]

I think dealer deliveries only commenced last fortnight - they have been advertising the car for months though (but they hadn't arrived in country)

[@daweigo6851]

Have seen a few in eastern Sydney

[@FlameMirage]

Please test the Honda ZRV too! I am waiting for your review before I go test it :D

[@chasingcars]

Coming this afternoon, although our written review is already available here: www.chasingcars.com.au/reviews/midsize-suvs/honda-zr-v-2023-review/

[@willmac5642]

Better design than lexus but Mazda always grab defeat by including some deal breaker, in this case no rear leg room and terrible ride

[@mcrisare]

Does it have ventilated seats?

[@d.j.z.j]

They look amazing

[@chasingcars]

The look is growing on me, I think. In darker colours.

[@Coastmac2001]

The diesel is a good one, but I'd be surprised if it will achieve mazdas estimated 35% of total sales. More likely maybe 5 % at a stretch . I was In Sydney a few wks ago & got a chance to drive one of the first vehicles to go to a dealer there . Quality is fantastic, vehicle is impressive, but it ain't cheap , & that may put some people off

[@chasingcars]

Bit of a gulf between your prediction of 5% and Mazda's of 35%! Keen to see which way it falls.

[@Coastmac2001]

@@chasingcars maybe Mazda are correct predicting it to take 35% of total combined sales, but as diesel is a bit iffy for a lot of people, I'd think that 35% is optimistic

[@JayYeasmin]

how come there's no cx-60 in the US?

[@deet4895]

Because Mazda is not selling it in North America, it's as simple as that.

[@JayYeasmin]

@@deet4895 yeah very helpful, thanks

[@ericshutter5305]

@@JayYeasmin CX-70 and CX-90 will be available in USA.

[@craigyjp]

Ride quality is attrocious, never had such a crashy car as this, seriously I want to dump this car soon.

[@acde9355]

I'd probably pick the diesel version. But I was shocked when I was told that the petrol version only requires RON91 regular unleaded. It is unique and unnecessary to accept RON91 for a semi-performance car at this price tag.

[@chasingcars]

Interesting point.

[@michaelmcclown5593]

So you would like it better if it ran super ?

[@acde9355]

@@michaelmcclown5593 Absolutely. The RON91 petrol makes no sense to remain as RON95 can provide fuel efficiency to offset their minor price gap.

[@rupash88]

The world is racing to be electrified, mean while Mazda introducing new petrol engine vehicles.

[@chasingcars]

Correct. And even new diesels, which is more unusual still.

[@allenparks8706]

CX-60 💙

[@sheridanis]

Can you cover servicing costs

[@chasingcars]

Yes! We didn't have them in time but here they are (and they are quite high): G40e petrol six (5 years / 75,000km, $3360) - D50e diesel six (5 years / 50,000km, $3217) - P50e plug-in hybrid (5 years / 75,000km,$2590)

[@yahyayarim5727]

Rica etsem altyazı seçeneklerine Türkçe dil seçeneği ekleyebilir misiniz ? Sizi anlamak ve takip etmek istiyorum !!!

[@alexhan4768]

Test drove both petrol and diesel. Engine: petrol is more refined but not punchy with huge turbo lag; diesel pulls hard if you push really really hard, not refined quite noisy, also with huge turbo lag. Transmission: very lazy unit, old 6-speed auto in CX-30 is way more responsive than this 8-speed multi-clutch. Chassis: not agile, cannot feel it is rear-wheel biased AWD. Suspension and tires: need better tunning, the suspension is soft but the tires are quite hard, they are not cohesive. not agree with some reviewers about the stiffness of the damper, they are ok. Car: way too heavy and very bad body control, you feel unsafe with huge body roll if you push through some tight corners. Conclusion: maybe more premium than the cx5 on the surface, but way worse than the cx5 when you drive. Autogefühl is right, they need to rework hard on this car in the future, it is very premature if purchase it now

[@chengchiwo]

I also test drove petrol and phev. I am not an engineer nor expert but it appears to be the gearbox being too conservative at first and second gears. It doesn’t feel much like a bad turbo lag to me ( my only bad experience is with 1.4 turbo) as the power delivery is quite linear during the process. Even say so I enjoyed the 6 cyclinder especially when going higher speed.

[@nizm0man]

There's no 6 wagon coming aye

[@GlowingTube]

I remember last time Mazda tried to go upmarket with Eunos, they did this just when recession hit and it was a massive failure. This scenario looks like history repeating. I think that Mazda will struggle with this move... the product is worthy, I wish them luck but i just can't see this working given that the brand is not perceived as premium and with the rise of EVs will likely render the drivetrains dinosaurs along with this range.

[@dandandan3515]

Nice car, but as my in-laws said it is still a Mazda.

[@anakinskywalker4113]

I really like all your reviews so well done. However please be mindful that you are giving a subjective opinion. When you talk about what is right or needs improvement. Sometimes you come across as being too forceful. Not everyone is going to agree or feel the same way.

[@chasingcars]

Thank you. I acknowledge your view. But on things like ride quality (if that's what you mean), there is actually a correct way for a suspension to behave in terms of damping force - Wikipedia has a good explainer on underdamping, overdamping and critical damping that may interest you. In terms of stiffness (which is a separate concept), this is more subjective, but I am happy to stand behind my opinion as being an expert one. You are free to find an opinion you prefer - or have your own view - but I am satisfied that my view on technical areas like this is accurate.

[@anakinskywalker4113]

@@chasingcars thank you for your reply. I respect your opinion very highly. However I sometimes take issue with your language used.

[@paulholterhaus7084]

The "STIFF RIDE" of modern Mazda's just doesn't work in My bumpy Neighborhood........Paul

[@fokker4uify]

Mazda should just bring over the CX60 to the US. With their limited resources, why create another model for US market? 😁