Chatting about the KTM 1290 SuperAdventureR and the KTM 890 AdventureR

[@mhilde7744]

Let's not forget, Chris can pilot a 3-legged dog and make 99% of us riders look silly.

[@ric.m]

I am a lucky owner of a 1290 R 2021, I had the chance to drive the 890 R for a week. The ideal is to have both of them. What a show!!!

[@techustle]

Where were the biggest diffs? Weight and power mainly? Or off-road capability ? I am torn between the 890R and 1290R. If I could score a Rally then I would just get that.

[@ric.m]

@@techustle hello, given that I am a motorcycle tourist and not a pure enduro rider, in my experience, I would prefer the 890 R to have fun in the dirt, lightness and power ok. the 1290 R ADV, she is the queen but in the strait I still don't have that mastery in managing her weight. there is no lack of power😁

[@ocfpvii8258]

This is going to be my new bike! (1290) I have convinced my missus (they always nag when we want a new toy) and im selling an old merc e320 i have and my VT 1100. Many years ago i had a super tenere 750 and i know how much fun these bikes are.. Thanks Chris for the review. greetings from Melb Vic

[@manoloorz]

i think i have a solution to help decide which one to get, if you can only have one bike just get the 890R but if you can also have a dedicated enduro bike on your garage then get the 1290 SAR

[@backontwowheels9469]

Both bikes look awesome, yet looking at them side by side I think it looks obvious that the 890 is definitely the one for wild high adrenaline fun, whereas the 1290 is going to get you where you want to be 95% of the time. I don’t ride KTM, not because I don’t like them it is more to do with seat height, although saying that I upgraded from the CRF250 rally to a Triumph Tiger900 Rally Pro so I am really at the limit for seat height and yes if it was a bit lower I am sure my confidence would increase. At 5’6” the options are limited. I think it would just be great to have the money to have a stable of bikes Ian Back on Two Wheels

[@Braapncamp]

Thanks Chris for your insights and review on this big beauty off a beast! Had so much fun testing this rig, gave me a big smile 😁

[@Steve-wv8hf]

Thanks Chris, Always nice to get your input! Cheers 🍻

[@xXRedEyedStrangerXx]

Moment arm for the gas in the roll direction has been reduced. So to counteract the same moment generated there takes less rider force in it at the bar with the same moment arm as before.

[@bikersoncall]

''It takes 5 beers to change the old 890 air filter'' I'll bet this new one comes out on the first beer. : ]

[@65BAJA]

Actually it did help Mr Birch. I'm in the middle of this question right now. Looking for something to replace my CB500X with the Rally Raid kit. Bike is nice but just not enough power to put a smile on my face. I'm looking to get something new in about a month. '23 1290R, '23 890R, or maybe even a GSA. Leaning towards the 1290R but it's going to be a close decision.

[@glossblack1098]

The 690 does the dirt stuff better than both and still reasonable on the road.

[@sparty94]

i think i would go with the 890, the 1290 looks huge.

[@popptrp]

The color of 1290 S ADV R is pretty attractive 5is year, this is the best color combination ever.

[@nauticalboy4529]

Agree bro 🇲🇾

[@brycecampbell4845]

I'd rather have the 890 advR with Rottweiler Performance upgrades. It will really improve the power immediately and you can still take it up single track and 85 mph on highway with a passenger.

[@ENDUROPASSIONE]

This is what we were waiting for! Now looking forward to some action videos! 🤟🏻✊🏻

[@robsonenduro3316]

right, like you couldn't figure it out for yourself LOL

[@bikersoncall]

I can't imagine the torque of the 1200 , and being able to ride from 40 (kph I guess) to 140 in 4th, that is amazing.

[@Cyril_Harperink_87]

@chris. Damn Chris I asked your opinion on IG about the 1290 adv R. That was a fast response. 😂😂😂 Thanks a lot. Keep it up. And take care.

[@shanecrofts2629]

Love my 21 1290 SAR, absolute weapon!

[@obalaresque]

More videos like this please!

[@sjbechet1111]

No mention of how to negotiate the MASSIVE hole in your wallet at service intervals. More weight on the rear? Lower the tire pressure?

[@denis6948]

two amazing motorcycles. the choice is very difficult to replace the 1090. the selling price can help make a decision ... not sure

[@seabiscuit726142]

Stick to your 1090. Period! That's the latest true "kind of pure" adv bike. The closest one to the legendary 990 at least!

[@Crust2013]

@@seabiscuit726142 1090R simply awsome model got 1 myself handles my abuse all day... A sweet model indeed.

[@ChrisBirchNZ]

I loved my 1090 too, but you can't argue against progress and constant r&d

[@Crust2013]

@@ChrisBirchNZ hi mate got a solid suggestion on changing bars on the 1090 ? I don't want risers but feels like I'm reaching down to them wee bit to much while standing up and going for it.be greatly appreciated cheers birchy

[@BackHurtsBad]

Its always a new model isn't it Chris? How about you make a video about your true love, the 950? I'm sure a lot of people dont have money for the new stuff , and I bet a lot (like me) want to see something more close to the earth. I dont want to say stop with the new models, because, lets face it , you re a KTM ambassador , but the 950, thats what I really want to see. Thanks!

[@ChrisBirchNZ]

unfortunately I can't get the poor old 950 to even start!

[@Captndarty]

Most people don’t want to see comparison videos of a time before the dawn of the earth the Cretaceous period.

[@montaego]

Don't dare ride a new 890 adventure R then. Speaking from experience having a outrageously modified 990, there is simply no comparison.

[@cengizozbek5285]

Deciding factor was where either bike was manufactured. One in China One in Austria 👍

[@ChrisBirchNZ]

Both these are bikes are made in Austria.

[@bikersoncall]

Thanks for no *_midroll_* adds Chris.

[@ChrisBirchNZ]

they are punishing eh

[@davidlong5017]

I own a 2021 390 adventure, 2021 890 adventure s, 2022 890 adventure r and the 2022 1290 super adventure r. The 1290 super adventure r is the turd in the punch bowl. Doesn't have the load capacity to ride 2 up with gear, the 160hp gives it the same power to weight ratio as the 890. the 1290 90 is to heavy and bulky to have any fun adventure riding and you had better have a buddy with you if you drop it. The 890 S with offroad tires is the work horse of the bunch.

[@montaego]

Just picked up an 890 adventure R. To be honest if these had been available I may be riding one. Super impressed with the 890 and it is just ace's compared to the 990. What is the riders feeling surrounding the weight difference of the 890/1290 and picking the 1290 up vs the 890?

[@davidlong5017]

1290 is a turd. 890 R rocks!

[@thelmopinto3663]

Great prospective!!! Live it.

[@deanmayke6959]

Which bike has better wind protection, In the the midst of maybe trading my 890 rally on a new 1290 R, hoping that it will have less buffiding

[@Captndarty]

Excellent video Chris. Here’s another tricky question for you. Is the new 1290R worth selling a paid off mint 1190R and financing the difference? Or just keep Lovin the paid for amazing 1190R?

[@ChrisBirchNZ]

I think only you can answer that one!

[@captaintahoe1]

You had me at easy to change air filter

[@robsonenduro3316]

The main difference for me that 1290 is less ugly.

[@TR850]

I actually think the 1290 looks fantastic, but I cannot fall in love with the 790/890s.

[@robsonenduro3316]

@@TR850 for me 1090R style was way way better, cannot stand this headlamp and hanging bull balls down there..

[@Crust2013]

@@robsonenduro3316 1090R Is the mean rig ride mine grinning

[@eduardojhd]

Hello Cris. Would you recommend the reinforced enduro wheels for offroad use in a 1290 SAS 2021??

[@ChrisBirchNZ]

For off road use yes. They are not so great on the road.

[@G91YS]

Beautiful colors :D

[@rickhouston2144]

Pick your weapon! Mine will be the 1090r!

[@Crust2013]

1090R is my pick too,

[@loadblock4995]

Went from a 1190r to a 790r with zero regrets. Awesome bikes!🛵💨

[@AVGideasJM]

Hey, i'm thinking of doing the same but with the new 890 r. Some times I ride with my wife, so the question is: If do you ride on road with the 790r and if do you ride with passenger? Thanks!

[@loadblock4995]

@@AVGideasJM I always ride solo✌️

[@AVGideasJM]

@@loadblock4995 thanks mate.

[@sckennedy54]

I’m about to buy one and torn between them both. Want to do lots of off-road exploring

[@loadblock4995]

@@sckennedy54 790 over 1190 all day for off road exploration.

[@pollepost]

A bumblebee... maybe it thought the bike was its queen-bee :D

[@mikeshakespeare7294]

Chris, is the side stand on the 1290 still attached to the crankcase and if so, is it a problem? Love the colour of that 1290 - a bit like my GO!!!! 950 😁

[@jiririman]

Yes, it is still attached to the crankcase.

[@ChrisBirchNZ]

yes it is. I've never had a problem with it

[@sudhinkumars7940]

The one i was waitng fr.

[@KLRmurdercycle]

Nice color

[@koboibebob7839]

which one better for 170cm tall guy?

[@alexgrigoreas4825]

Thanks Chis! No help whatsoever. HAHA

[@h00doy]

Hey man! What tires do you use? And what is the width of the rear tire?)

[@Rainer.M67]

The advertising at the front fender says Mitas

[@adrianomonteiro3976]

Yeah, I have the same question...

[@ChrisBirchNZ]

I run Mitas tires, they have been a sponsor for nearly ten years! I run E12/E13 a lot and also really like E07+

[@Rufus-OG]

What are the tyres you’re running on the 2 bikes?

[@popptrp]

They both wrapping with Mitas tyres, but I don’t know which is a specific product’s name.

[@offroadtrailrider77]

Get both. That’s my plan.

[@nigellove-lovebigbikeadven4783]

1290 I just got ☘️🙈

[@adriandaria9080]

philippines ❤️❤️

[@asifrazvi]

Is it just me cause am unable to hear anything.

[@bikersoncall]

Could be a bit more volume, CC'c would be nice too, but I'm getting 99% of it.

[@zeez9053]

Just u

[@popptrp]

Or maybe open the sub title annotation if you uncomfy to sour the volume up at maximum level.

[@stijnnel4798]

too bad the 890 does not have a hydraulic clutch.

[@montaego]

the cable clutch is fantastic. No complaints here.

[@videotmy]

That’s what I thought until I rode the 890r. Went from an 1190r to the 890r. The clutch is light with excellent modulation.

[@Realthinx]

KTM be like: yeah lets make the new 1490 Super Adventure XR 600lbs and call it adventure bike!🤡 to shut down any criticism, send it to Mr Birch and let him drive Erzberg with it, proving all haters just lack skill. kinda how things are going right now, arent they.🤣

[@robdefire4747]

Still not as good as a DR650.

[@Crust2013]

Gibba Jabba rite thier