Wohooo, what a brutal machine! I got the opportunity to take a testride on the new KTM 1290 SAR on backroads and gravel roads. Will my 790 Adv R survive this? Bikes compared side by side. Did I Steve McQueen'ed it? 😂
@Nexus-63 жыл бұрын
4:19 I could see your smile Mattias, through your helmet when you pulled up, and gave the camera the 'thumbs up'. 😁👍 What a bike! Thanks for sharing this ride with us all. Skål from Canada. 🇨🇦🍻🇸🇪
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
Haha, you bet it was a big smile under there. I just cut some of the material since I was rumbling, but I was really excited when the helmet got off. So first "hello fraze" showed this even more 😂 Skål and thanks buddy 🍺🤠
@deanmayke69593 жыл бұрын
Love my new 890 rally , have about 1000km’s on super smooth power suspension off-road is simply incredible, love the new 1290 but don’t need the extra power or weight...in my opinion would rather have the rally suspension over more HP,,,cheers from Canada
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
We are on the same page here! When I jumped up on my 790R and took the backroads home again it felt just right. Still my unicorn. 💪
@Parakitedude2 жыл бұрын
@@Braapncamp after 3100kms on my 701e 2021 i sold it. And i believe you are right, the 890 is the perfect inbetween. In my opinion is the 1290 a great bike but I think it might be a little bit to much. I will most likely buy the 890adr as my next bike.
@Braapncamp2 жыл бұрын
@@Parakitedude I'm curious of why the 701 did not do it for You? The 890R is a great bike for everything and to me mt 790R is more bike in a positive way than the 690 I had.
@Parakitedude2 жыл бұрын
@@Braapncamp the 701e is a great bike. I Love it, but i felt that it lacks on tarmac and in the highway. Going long transports on highways is very tough and I want the option of taking a longer trip on tarmac and in speeds around 110km/h without the vibrations and wind
@Braapncamp2 жыл бұрын
Thats exactly what the 890R excels in, better comfort but still very capable offroad.
@tobiashuber29103 жыл бұрын
Great Video, Mattias! Greatings from Germany. I bought this wonderful bike, yesterday. It's so beautyful and so balanced. I had the 1290 Super Adventure S from 2017 so far. I am so happy!!! Yours Tobias
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
Oh man, congrats! Please give your comparison thoughts here! Many are asking and I have not ridden the earlier version.
@tobiashuber29103 жыл бұрын
Hallo Mattias, compared to the earlier model of the 1290 Super Adventure S from 2017 the new model is better in so many ways. First of all. The new bike is much better balanced and therefore so much easier to ride. The handling is so easy und I felt so confident and save on the new bike from the first moment on. Much less effort is needed while riding, much less bodymovement is needed to control the power. My 1290 Super Adventure S from 2017 was always "my big beast". I liked the power but I had to be very aware of what I'm doing, to avoid dropping it, beginning from getting on the bike and starting the ride, because it was so top heavy and not very good balanced, over riding fast and narrow curves, up to riding downhill offroad, what could be quite scary sometimes. The new model feels much smaller and everything feels smoother. The engine is so smooth, the sound (is almost the same but a little bit reduced - very good), the quickshifter was very good on my previous 1290 but it'is so much better now. Everything is made better - a slight bit or a big bit. So far the heat of the engine was very hot under me. Hot legs and hot backside are ok in wintertime (extra heating is welcome when it's cold) but in summertime it defenitly was too hot. Now KTM worked on that issue and solved the problem. Now the heat goes around the rider. Perfect! I liked the display of my 1290 Super Adventure S. But the new display and the graphics are just "wow"!!! The opportunity to have your personal presettings is realy a big step ahead compared to my 1290 from 2017. KTM kept the good things about the bike - that's the best. It's got still that character of a beast and it's still a big powerful bike, comfortable and sporty with racing genes. But now it feels elegant, is agile and easy to use. And the look of the new R... what can I say? I fell in Love! It was love at first sight!!! I'm so happy that my dealer Motoyama in Ravensburg, Germany, could sell me one. It seems not so easy to get this brand new model at the moment. But I'm sure that in the future this beauty will find many buyers.
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
Wonderful to hear your experience! Congrats again to this new king of the big advs. Ravensburg is nice and tve area around 👌 have had a beer , ice cream and apfel strudel at the old town.
@JohnDoe-xm9ql3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful motorcycle... Thank you for bringing us along Mattias. 👍
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
Thanks JD! Always good to have you here as well. Happy trails.
@Svendz13 жыл бұрын
Picking up mine this week! Cant wait 😁
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
Congrats! You will love this machine 💪☝️😁 Did You go for the SAR or SAS?
@bensmith75363 жыл бұрын
Looking at this exact bike to replace my 2016 Tiger XcX. You gave me a wealth of info to go by, verified my thoughts on the little info I have to go on right now. Thanks for an incredibly useful review consisting of lots of ride scenes including cockpit view, and not just opinion. Many thanks !
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your kind feedback Ben S! Glad that You liked the views and spontaneous thoughts of this beauty. Happy trails!
@ktmtravels37279 ай бұрын
Thanks for a great review, Mattias. I think I see one in my future, fantastic bike. You hit the nail on the head mentioning the Rally DNA, I think they have a different approach at KTM and it shows in their bikes. I have to admit I am already a fan of the orange bikes🤗. Ride safe.
@Braapncamp9 ай бұрын
The Orange bikes simply comes in sharper than the others. In this large capacity league, it's even more unique.
@thepassionofthegoose54723 жыл бұрын
I own an 18 that I put 25,000-miles on in fourteen months (two cross continent trips and daily use). I appreciate the less refined nature of the older model. There is no doubt this is a more capable machine for more people, which is a step forward. I use mine like a two-wheeled WRC car, so the rawness of the experience is my favorite aspect. I have ridden it extensively on every twisty road of mention in North America, from Dease Lake Highway in BC to Tail of the Dragon and literally everything in between. Blah, blah, blah aside, I would buy anything KTM threw a 1290 in. Riding one in anger is a transcendent experience. Cheers.
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
Haha, that sounds good 👌😁🤘
@toltod3 жыл бұрын
Wow, nice review showing what this bike is really all about. Yeah, I wish they were coming to USA sooner, but we have to wait.
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Yes I would not be surprised if this bike takes home the buckle in all contests among "travel enduros".
@anot723 жыл бұрын
Very good review. The new 1290 is a wonderful motorcycle. It’s a pain KTM not providing the 790/890 bikes with the aesthetics of the big ones (specially on the fairing area) and that they stick with a so much reduced color scheme.
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I agree that the transition from tank to front end looks better on this 1290 than on the 790 😂.
@espero77573 жыл бұрын
@@Braapncamp the Color scheme on the 790 R RALLY is much better than on the standard version. Against the 790 RALLY it is hard to compete 😀
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
@@espero7757 For sure the Rally looks awesome. I think that the insect like head of our 790/890 is there to save weight (or insect design 😂), The 1290 tank to fairing/tower design looks more like on the 950/990 which many still like. I just don't really care as long as the bike braaps ☝️😁.
@martinvang63523 жыл бұрын
Living the good life! Thx again for your film👍🏼. Grtz from Holland
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Martin, I try my best 😜 Happy trails!
@martinvang63523 жыл бұрын
👍🏼👍🏼
@VaraHusbilsresor3 жыл бұрын
Så härligt, jag skulle också vilja ha mc-körkort... men men, man kan inte ha allt 😂 trevlig video Mattias!
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
Nä man kan inte ha allt, några YOLO grejer får man dock hålla sig med. Husbil hör definitivt dit. Tackar!
@095910003 жыл бұрын
Thanks a Lot! Nice review! Have a Good Adventures! Спасибо! )
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for joining the party Vadim, enjoy the season and happy trails to You as well.
@stephenbienvenu48103 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting. Have been waiting to see a test or test ride of this bike.. I currently have a 17’ 1290 SAR and have been considering the new bike. I am definitely interested in the lower CG with the new fuel tank design... unfortunately I am being to,d that we (USA) are not getting the new bike this year for some unknown reason, so I guess I will have one more year of research before I get a chance to throw my leg over one. Thanks again for the review and posting it..
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comment, weird that these won't be available in North America. Hold out and spend the dough on nice adventures this year. The bike was truly amazing, we will probably se a lot of nice reviews and contests in the segment.
@SsiolisP2 жыл бұрын
0 to berserk in 0.2 heartbeats! Look at that young hooligan wreaking havoc, someone should call his parents... Oh! Oh my it's Mattias! Good morning Mr. Eriksson, how is the family?
@Braapncamp2 жыл бұрын
Ooopa! 😂🙌 that was fun. All is well my friend, but it's definately time for a small coffee in the woods again. Happy trails man!
@twopot20093 жыл бұрын
Great looking bike. My only concern is there's so many expensive things you could break, whilst riding off road. And that's what it's designed for. I ride the 1090r which has a lot less gadgets you could damage or break.
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
Always a risk, this bike should be compared to the 1200 GSA. Big bike adventures in main focus a traveller with serious capabilities and makes you confident even if it gets rough. In that category this bike is outstanding.
@jamesself4353 жыл бұрын
Wow! What an amazing machine! Thank you for your review!
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
Thanks James, I had a blast on that remarkable machine. 😂💪🔥
@MrEtnorb3 жыл бұрын
You must be close to KTM sponsorship now. I note they claim to have reduced the amount of hot air blowing on your legs, that would be worth verifying in summer. Still weighs 230+ kg so you would not want to be a lightweight rider. The display looks great but they should swap the gear position indicator for the speed reading. It’s more important to know your speed with 160 Hp, rather than the gear.
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
😂😂 I wish... You are right, even if this bike is incredibly agile and handles well for it's weight, I still prefer a bike that max has the weight of my own. Yes I saw that KTM had made effort to let the hot air out high up on the sides. Nice design. In these temp, heat is welcome though 😁. Regarding the display, there was a customization menu. It could be possible to have speed more visible. I actually realized how fast it picked up speed and with that small speed figures up in the corner it was easy to "forget". Thanks for joining In DKW125!
@espero77573 жыл бұрын
Maybe KTM has a sort of „radar sensor“ built in avoiding to get into the speed control 😂
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
@@espero7757 Would be cool if that acc module could do some electronic warfare to radars ans lasers. 👀😂💪
@deanmayke69592 жыл бұрын
I finally broke down and sold my 890 rally and bought a 1290R, was addicted to the motor and far superior wind protection for the longer days and also love the new TFT…ironically it takes me everywhere my 890 rally off-road ….for more serious adv riding I’ll either put together a 500 or 690 with some type of tower !….all first world problems :)
@Braapncamp2 жыл бұрын
I got the the same thought when I rode this bike, it definately does most of where we actually ride these bikes with a glance. Then it does road better. Congrats!
@dwojtasiak3 жыл бұрын
Great 👍 test! I have opportunity to ride 1290 super adventure and I was shocked how handy this machine in town traffic 😃 - compare to my Duke 690 R in Adventure mirrors are higher and they are just avoiding any unexpected contact with cars mirrors!, and center of mass is in perfect position👌 = easy riding
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
I definitely agree, bike is intuitive to ride and have a very agile handling. Clutch feeling is a lot less rough that on my 790R as well.
@espero77573 жыл бұрын
@@Braapncamp For the 790 the 1-Finger Clutch system is a real help and the feeling for the clutch gets nice.
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
@@espero7757 Yeah I know that! But I try to have as much traction and throttle so the clutch is less needed 👀😂. But if rough trail riding is the majority part of rides then I would consider it. A nice option for sure. Harder clutch springs as well 👌.
@orangefuture49103 жыл бұрын
Lucky man. My dealer hasn't got one yet. Interesting that you think it's lower than your 790. That's good as I was put off by the previous model and had to buy the S instead.
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
Yeah my dealer really has volume on sales so they can have demo bikes. Definitely a privilege to be able to test these bikes. But it could hurt the wallet, with a machine like this. It's definitely the most capable bike in the category and who can't like it... It's brutal but very agile.
@DirtRiderLife3 жыл бұрын
WOW, WOW, WOW what a gorgeous bike, no doubt demos can be expensive but I think my life will be incomplete if I don't buy one !
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
😂😂 Something like that!
@DirtRiderLife3 жыл бұрын
@@Braapncamp Well there's good news and bad news, 2021 1290 will not be available in Canada till 2022 :( ... I'm $20k plus richer than I thought hahaha
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
😂😂👍 Always think of the bright side of life 👌
@emileclitheroe95643 жыл бұрын
great Review Mattias I am surprised how much lower the 1290 saR looks compared to the 790 adv R 😮 I think with the 790 i always have a feeling that on the gravel roads i can get everything out of it that is in there without it being to Fast I don't think I will ever be able you use the full potential of the 1290 on gravel roads without scaring myself😱 and as you state below the 790 is your Unicorn Mine also 😊
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Emile! For sure the 790/890 has power enough, even the 790 is too powerful at WOT on most situations. The 790R has better balanced suspension as well what I could feel (for rough road).
@olevpihl25443 жыл бұрын
Nice bike, I got to try the 2020 model last spring before I bought my 790 R, hopefully there will be a possibility to test this year's model as well, I guess it's only gotten better with the low tanks. If my main use would be travel and light offroad, would definitely consider the 1290 over 790/890, but the 790 is so much easier to handle offroad that I am very happy with the "cheaper" option :)
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
You and i know who's the unicorn 🔥😁🤌
@olevpihl25443 жыл бұрын
@@Braapncamp Indeed we do :)
@death2pc3 жыл бұрын
Från Minnesota ....... Bra video. Roligast. Älskar vintern ......... Sommaren är snart. Var glad, säker och fri. Trotsa NWO !!
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
Minesota, lots of folks with Scandinavian ancestors? Is US going towards a polarized divide? Take care over there and stay wild 💪
@austindavis34203 жыл бұрын
Awesome bike! I have a 1090R really wishing I had the new 1290R
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
I could imagine! It has it all, comfort, power and also the agility to take on rough stuff.
@phillipgarfoot98673 жыл бұрын
I have the 1090r love it?
@JoonesAdventuresMC3 жыл бұрын
Nice looking bike, but you’re 790R looks maybe a little more raw. I don’t know why but for some reason I think it looks better with black around the headlights instead of white. But of course it’s a beautiful bike.
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
The SAS version is orange and black instead, I would not be surprised if some SAR guys will buy the SAS plastics and swap. My 790R makes it for me.
@JoonesAdventuresMC3 жыл бұрын
Yes I guessing the 790 has power enough, maybe more than needed.
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
@@JoonesAdventuresMC Definitely more than needed on most trails but spot on at curvy asphalt roads.
@murkymercy3 жыл бұрын
Great video as always! My wee 200 Duke can't even compare to these machines haha 😅
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
😂 It's not ment to either! Each bike has it's own charm and this one ticks all the boxes technically if this segment is the preference. For local riding and commuting a smaller bike is preferable in mani reasons. I'm just convinced that I have a really nice bike already. 😁
@McDaidVideo3 жыл бұрын
Mattias, i cant afford to watch your channel any more!!
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
😂😂 Sorry buddy, not my intention but I've heard that before 🔥I'm in the mood for more braap&camp than spend on more stuff as well right now. I feel like the set up are completed now, or... 👀😅
@Joko-cp6so3 жыл бұрын
How does the gas tank height and width compare to the previous 1290? Is it much smaller or similar to the 790?
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
The top of the gas tank felt wider, bottom same I suppose but with the crash bars. Never really thought of it since I'm used to the 790R. In the end both of them are shown side by side, maybe that shows some.
@DragosRDS3 жыл бұрын
Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaammmnn, what a bike. Of of Mattias, how lucky you are !!!
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
Dragos I must say that I feel privileged to be able to compare my bike to others. This bike was like a dream. Transfargasan type of roads with this bike and then off on your trails. The 1290SAR will chew it in crunch 😂
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
It could be expensive though to test one of these. Tempting...
@DragosRDS3 жыл бұрын
Brother you only live once :)
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
@@DragosRDS YOLO for me is to spend the € on an advride to your area 💪🍺
@DragosRDS3 жыл бұрын
@@Braapncamp boy what a nice time we would have !!! And it woudn't be to much money, you would be surprised ! Eastern Europe will put a spell on you, you will see
@rogerwilliams29023 жыл бұрын
Excellent video 😆.
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Roger, much appreciated.
@stevecade8573 жыл бұрын
The screen is short like the 790R and I get a lot of buffeting at higher speeds on mine. How was the SAR? Being spaced with what looks like a small inner screen it looks like it's designed to create some laminar air flow and direct the air above your head.
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
The SAR wind screen was slightly better than on my 790R in both lost and highest position. It was a wind noise but not as high as on the 790R.
@Snowhite8083 жыл бұрын
one account of indecent riding on open roads and one account on pure jealousy by me ! . Damn we like like it. And we went from 790R to the previous gen 1290 just to be more roadworthy. The buffeting and nervousness was too much on the 790 for our taste. (we were coming from 990adv S and 701Rally). And it loooks soooo goood!
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
Haha, thanks. Congrats to a mean machine! Definately a good move if hauling nice backroads and a mix leaning more to towards roads. New SAR as bext one?
@Snowhite8083 жыл бұрын
@@Braapncamp If loto win is in the stars then yes. I find that the updates are very good done and were due also. There is just a matter of keeping a small light bike for the real off-road riding and we have a "winner" as for a travel bike the 1290 is supreme.
@Elskins3 жыл бұрын
This is not fair, +13 degrees you have 😊 Looks like a fun bike. What about the engine vibration compared to your 790?
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
Hehe, perfect riding weather! The engine is ridiculous smooth on the 1290, super smooth but also powerful. QS just shift gears like cutting in butter. When I think of it I don't remember any vibrations to talk about at all.
@SWFlowseeker2 жыл бұрын
I love my 890r but I have to try out this new 1290r. It looks incredible Ty for putting up a video
@Braapncamp2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! This 1290SAR was a beast in a positive way. But wven i jumped on my 790R again i felt at home 👍
@mktm12903 жыл бұрын
I have a 2020 SDR, but in a few years time when I want to calm down a bit this is defo the bike for me! Amazing machine!
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
Each thing has it's time! For sure a fun bike to calm down on. 👌
@mktm12903 жыл бұрын
@@Braapncamp love everything about it, all the tech you showed in your vid! Brilliant bit of kit! Great video
@Xplorer.Adventures3 жыл бұрын
I told You! 😆 You're already sold for it! 😍
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
NoNo 😂, but it is a typical expensive bike to test. Awesome machine. It will sell like h*ll.
@Jungleland332 жыл бұрын
What a beautiful machine. I think that the blue really suits the colour scheme and really changes the look of the usual white/ black/ orange . I hope this bike sells well as I would love to get an adventure bike for long distance trips but am torn between Japanese ( T12, AT) and KTM (I had an 1150 adventure and can't see myself buying a BMW again). Tut, tut, you were very bold @ 17:42 ..Safe travels in the meantime. 👍
@Braapncamp2 жыл бұрын
I agree! Looks good, bjt i must say that the very orange look at the 1290 SAS looks great as well. Would not surprise me if some SAR buyers will get the SAS plastics. I would keep the blue though. Komparativ to the others i think this is a totally different animal. Fun factor is on top 💪.
@mmckenna28023 жыл бұрын
You are the Neil Armstrong of the 2021 KTM SAR 1290 - the 1rst to step foot into a new future. Awesome! thanks for the video!
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
Haha, have not though of it in that way. A small throttle twist for man, a giant BRAAP for mankind... 👀😂🤘
@AndreasHegartPetersen3 жыл бұрын
Great video as always ;) Would be awesome to have a comparison to the "old" 1290 SAR. Besides the electronics they also updated the frame and tank I guess, and I wonder how it feels different?
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I can't compare since I've never ridden the previous model. But this is a totally redesigned so there is probably a lot of differences in handling. For sure some one will meek a comparison. I read at Advrider that a guy tested the old 1290 and didn't like it at all. Engine vibes, handling etc. then tested the new SAS, result was a direct purchase. This so smooth and at the same time powerful and agile what I could feel, I could not really complain on anything.
@AndreasHegartPetersen3 жыл бұрын
@@Braapncamp I got the a 1290 SAR from 2018 and love the bike, but the handling on the new one should be awesome. Maybe we can meet somewhere in Sweden?
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
Were do you ride Andreas?
@AndreasHegartPetersen3 жыл бұрын
@@Braapncamp I live close to Copenhagen, so Sweden is close by. Where in Sweden do you ride?
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
@@AndreasHegartPetersen Mostly mid west. Trollhättan and a day ride in each direction.
@mahesh1simhadri3 жыл бұрын
Hello mate! Your helmet is great and matched the bike. I wanna know which one is that...?
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
Hey! You are right it matched the bike so good that i should have get the bike 😂🤌🏻 It's a Klim Krios helmet. Like it alot!
@pekkapylkkanen69413 жыл бұрын
Thanks for nice video. Just bought one 😎. Will miss my 1290 R 2017 😔
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
Cool! You will miss it a few seconds, then full focus on adventures with the new beast. ☝️😁
@RIDEAdventures3 жыл бұрын
Although I/we've suggested 160hp is far more than anyone would need, it sure is nice to have....just in case : ) Have fun, Matthias and thanks for the review. --- Eric
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
For sure a fun bike, but when I jumped on my own again I felt it definitely has all the power to smile as well. Also a far better ergonomic for trail riding. The 1290 SAR surprised me though, on how agile it is. Happy trails Eric!
@user-zc4cd1gx3s3 жыл бұрын
Awesome bike. I think it's my next choise 👍👏💪🇬🇷
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
Good choise if so! What do tiu ride now?
@user-zc4cd1gx3s3 жыл бұрын
@@Braapncamp Bmw R1200gs
@user-zc4cd1gx3s3 жыл бұрын
@@Braapncamp Last week a relative of mine bought it and I took it for a short ride 😜😆I was between her and the bmw r1250 gsa anniversary. Slightly different motorcycles but bmw is my real love. I will probably leave her for a while later. The KTM R is something different and because I like gravel I think it will be my choice for now😜
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
I had a 1200GSA for many years. A Wonderfull bike on adv travels, especially in the Alps. This 1290SAR have it all, to me the choice would be easy. The specs on this one is just made for serious offroad as well or the SAS that probably are better than both at on road adv's. With that said the character of the GS is something special. Happy trails and good luck with your choice 👌
@glossblack10983 жыл бұрын
Great review. Your helmet colour matches the 1290, so you better buy it.
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, for sure! That's a reason as good as any 🤠🤘
@peterholwerda3343 жыл бұрын
What a Beautiful, Beautiful bike. But I Think ist more for long distances than for the kind of trip You make. Although ti is more than capable. Again a nice review 👌
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
You are right, It's to beauty for my adventures. The 790R is spot on 👌
@peterholwerda3343 жыл бұрын
@@Braapncamp Looking out for more reviews from other kinds of adventure bike . Maybe a Triumph 850 Sport ore a 900...
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
That would be nice!
@Keckonius3 жыл бұрын
Trevlig video, jag har beställt en svart 1290 S och längtan är outhärdlig! 😤 Tog dessutom klivet från HD till KTM utan ens att provköra...är väl knappt nån skillnad! 🤣
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
😂 Du kommer att gilla den skarpt! Definitivt en vinnare för sportiga äventyr. Jag kan bara tänka mig en tur till Norge eller Alperna med 1290 SAS, grymt. Grattis!
@Kaegis3 жыл бұрын
The fuel tank relocation would be a bonus, but the colour scheme I cannot get used to. I have a 2019SAR, last of the best in by view.
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
I bet some will buy the 2021 SAS orange plastics for the SAR!
@vsadventures94023 жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍 great review and cool bike 💪
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for stopping by! I had a blast on that wondermachine 💪🔥
@nesbokaj13 жыл бұрын
Good bye driving license 🤣👍
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
This beast pick up speed faster than healthy 👀😅
@cliffspicer65553 жыл бұрын
Great review but I personally would not take a bike that big on anything but gravel roads. It's just too much bike in my opinion for forest roads and for getting deep in the backcountry for camping. The sleek design and the low weight of the fuel on the 790 seems to me to be the perfect compromise for an adventure bike. It has the power for the highways and the nimbellnes for off road riding. I have never truly understood who the market for a large and heavy CC bike like this for. It is dressed up like it's a true off road machine, but unless you're Chris Birch, putting luggage on this bike and taking it in muddy forest roads many kilometers away from paved roads or gravel would be way too intimidating to do solo. I'd keep the 790 or even the 390 adventure over this beast.
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
Fun power but it ends with that. We are not CB so it's wise to stick with the 790/890R ☝️😁 Happy trails!
@quintoncarmody36743 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for it to show up in Canada, I will be giving it a test ride for sure, now to decide between the 890 or 1290?
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
I would go for 890R, if you are into the S models then the 1290SAS. If you like the rough sometimes but tour a lot 1290R is the best. (my opinion)
@meirionthomas43333 жыл бұрын
Great ride really fast beast of a bike looking good 👍💪
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
You bet Thomas 😅, this beast is a rocket.
@sveinivaraspenes68923 жыл бұрын
Looks like a nice bike for long trips, but as most other adv bikes, it is not for me. I need a much lighther bike as I will drop it alot. 😉
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
Yes, this bike is not for dropping if not workout is on the agenda 😂. But it's definitely capable on rough stuff. However all of us know that if riding mostly the rough stuff, the weight and power could be a hand full.
@cobra46403 жыл бұрын
So I have 2016 KTM SA T here in Chicago. I am wondering since all it has changed are the electronics on the bike (still same engine and power output) Is it worth the upgrade? And my 11k dollars ? What do you guys think?
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
It's a total redesign. Chassis geometry, suspension, fueltank geometry, electronic gizmos. If you plan to update, test it. If umyou are happy and will spend on adv's instead. Don't even think of testing it... 👀😂
@greenrush43133 жыл бұрын
Man i really love my kvh 1325 r value.What a plush ride just awesome
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
I can imagine!
@VarRedo3 жыл бұрын
cool bike.
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
Helt brutal 😂💪
@roytong19083 жыл бұрын
do they remove the speed limiter from SAR in this generation?
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
Not sure, have there been one on the previous model?
@roytong19083 жыл бұрын
@@Braapncamp yes. The previous R model .only can run 205km ...in Euro pay extra $ remove it. In North America and Asia markets even u pay extra that dont do it.......so many owens complain KTM shuold tell us before we bought it not after.
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
@@roytong1908 Didn't knew that! I kept riding slow with this beast and had fun anyway 👀😜
@Ni3K3 жыл бұрын
I bought SAR last week, in the official papers, the top speed is 235 km/h, could be still restricted. There is no option to remove any restriction, though. I don‘t have the bike, yet.
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
@@Ni3K Congrats! 💪
@rocketrollsvlogs76253 жыл бұрын
Looks like loads of fun. I think I rather have a smaller KTM or Husqvarna even. 701 or 501 perhaps.
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
Less is more when it comes to trail riding! 👌
@kriss85003 жыл бұрын
Yee now i have peoblem to buy this one R or S ? Reg.
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
I see, congrats anyway. Only You know how You plan to use it! To me it's the R that ticks the boxes.
@kriss85003 жыл бұрын
Hi l have R 2018 already its a bit to high especiallyin hard of road condition new one its looks slightly lower have to go my self for riding on both ...reg
@dionmarriott3 жыл бұрын
Hello Mattias thank you for this excellent review of the 1290 Adv R. There are not many of these that I can find. Most recent 2021 reviews look at only the more road oriented 1290 Adv S and do not compare and contrast the two version. Neither model is yet available in Australia and a test ride may not be possible for along time anyway. My question to you is do you find the off-road features of the R version significantly affects its on-road performance?
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dion, much appreciated. It's a tough question for me to answer since i've not tested the SAS version. But the tire sizes should differ in cornering, the higher windscreen on the SAS should affect comfort for longer rides at speed, the ACC seems missing on the SAR for now, The suspension must be better for onroad at SAS, seat is so personal so that is even not a should involved in that. But for me the 1290SAR was super performing on road. Very easy to manouver, points great in curves and great stability. It felt like the SAR suspension dives more in the front than on my 790R, It felt less nervous than my 790R, but it is road tires on the SAR and i run knobbies, that says me that the choise of tires will have a huge inpact on how it feels on road.
@dionmarriott3 жыл бұрын
@@Braapncamp thanks for the answer. I wonder if the SAR version is less represented because the road adventurer will mostly choose the decadent comforts of the SAS version, whereas the serious off-roader will prefer the 790/890R off-road adventurer par excellence. I like the colour of the SAR. Also maybe its potential to go everywhere and be everything, more or less. Happy rides.
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
@@dionmarriott Could also be that the SAR came later to dealer in numbers or was already sold. Not all dealers have demo bikes. But I agree, the 790/890R feels a lot better for offroad or dirt road rides and are almost as good on road. To me it's an easy choice. But I can't deny the joy of that brutal power and the SAR does bad roads good with confidence.
@aarsenalfan3 жыл бұрын
I think you should get one 👌
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
It was definitely a beast that made me smile 😂, but for my riding I already have the unicorn 👌
@emperorkhan99413 жыл бұрын
Hallå igen Mattias, om du inte skulle ha din 790 idag, och hade tankarna att köpa en 890 eller 1290, vilken skulle du a köpt? Varm hälsning.
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
En 890R, det är min unicorn för den typ av körning jag gör. En 690 är inte dum heller, hade en sån innan 790'n. 790 är dock lite mer hoj och gör jobbet bra både när det blir knöligare och på tur. Skall man ånga på till alperna eller långturer på krokiga vägar i Norge, me n sparsamt i våra skogar så är ju 1290 helt rätt. Sen att den är kul med den motorn på väg/grusväg går ju inte att förneka, men 790 har tillräckligt med muskler för att det skall vara sjukt kul!
@Brad-RB3 жыл бұрын
Nice bike! Not coming to the USA this year unfortunately.
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
Heard that Brad, not fun, but you will be able to lurk the net on how this beast performs 😂. If I was into a bigger bike the the 790/890R then this ticked the boxes, definitely. Raw but also refined.
@amirdoost85273 жыл бұрын
Does it come with conventional cruise control? Adaptive CC can be obtained?
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
Yes it hade conventional CC. The dealer could not see if the SAR could be opted or retrofited with ACC. The SAS has ACC, sure youvare aware of this.
@kamezodo3 жыл бұрын
Finally it's here 😁 oh common just buy it already...
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
Have you ordered?
@kamezodo3 жыл бұрын
@@Braapncamp nah haha. I was thinking to switch to a 690 enduro eventually.
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
@@kamezodo Good move!
@forestmotoadventures3 жыл бұрын
It can’t come to California soon enough! Thanks for sharing your passion with us….I think this trumps your thoughts of upgrading to the 890 😅
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
Haha, no even thought was a beast and fun with all power i really feel more home on the 790/890. 890 is also very refined in bottom end. When does the new 1290 arrive to you floors? Or have you order it allready and wait ?
@forestmotoadventures3 жыл бұрын
We are supposed to receive these as a “2022” model in the Fall (September/October?) I think this model is speaking my language for some touring in our National Parks 🏞. Thanks again for your wonderful work and personal reflections on what the bike feels like 👍
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
It is much more nimble than it appears in spec figures. No competitor at all in this class. Not even close. Wonderful power delivery and chassis encurage to go more rough as well.
@Swedeonamotorcycle3 жыл бұрын
Jag går lite i tankarna att byta in min BMW 1250GSA mot en sån här men blir lite orolig över all elektronik, Hade en 1290 SAS innan som jag bytte in mot BMWn just av anledningen att det var mycket småkrångel på den och då främst elektroniken... Men även om jag är galet med 1250n så visst lockar denna som tusan.. :)
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
Jag hade ju en 1200GSA som jag hade otroligt roligt på i många år. Otroligt fina maskiner. Åk och provkör, det "kostar" ju inget 😂😜. Även GSA hade ju sina typfel, tankmätaren, bränslepumpsregulatorn bl.a. Jag tänkte inte så mycket på sådant så länge det inte är fel som man blir strandad av. SAS är nog en riktigt fin alpracer. Jag skulle dock ha valt SAR pga att den är körduglig i skogen.
@MrEmanuelFerreira3 жыл бұрын
"License killer" hahahaha
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
Thats the only concern I had with the bike... 👀😅
@Lenek80053 жыл бұрын
😂👍👍
@klauspeters74343 жыл бұрын
I try to get one for a test ride as well - impossible at the moment, crazy times !
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
No demo at the dealer? 👀😲
@klauspeters74343 жыл бұрын
@@Braapncamp no, I already called 6 dealers ! 😅
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
@@klauspeters7434 😲😲👀
@phillipgarfoot98673 жыл бұрын
Love it, don't like the blue?
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
I think it's nice, but for sure the orange plastics from the SAS look more KTM and i assume that some will buy the SAS plastics for the SAR.
@forestmotoadventures3 жыл бұрын
One of thought Matthias…..it is still substantially lighter than the Africa Twin AS With very similar fuel capacity and a much more powerful engine.
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
Yes indeed and that is remarkable for this bike, but also say alot of what KTM is aiming for. Push it to the limit and as an active rider that appeals more than solid endurance. I know what i like 😁
@FredyFerrer3 жыл бұрын
I currently have the 2018 Model R, and on this model I would have liked it to come with CARPLAY, electronic suspensions, and adaptive radar. Not doing it I think is a mistake. What do you think?
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
I friend said, the ACC radar may not like to much offroad or gravelstoned be thrown on it 😂👀. I'm not sure about that. I think that all gizmos except electronic suspension would be nice to have. I rather like the suspension as it is for the SAR. But for the SAS it's perfect. But sure why not offer all the goodies and let the buyer decide.
@MagnumMuscle10002 жыл бұрын
Electronic suspension is overrated (you lose the fine tuning ability you get with manual adjustments and it's expensive to service). The R suspension is so good that once you have it set up you don't really need to do much adjusting. Adaptive cruise would be nice but is that a reason to upgrade?
@Braapncamp2 жыл бұрын
I agree! The R version skall definately have the manual dialed suspension. The "S" version has all the wistles and bells for those who like that and still capable.
@brucekendall522 жыл бұрын
Great bike,thanks.
@Braapncamp2 жыл бұрын
It was really a pleasure to take a testride on this beast! If I would be Ito the market for a beast, this beast would be the one! Felt really agile.
@livelymoto20393 жыл бұрын
It’s too bad you couldn’t take it off-road in a serious way it’s a blast
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
I agree! That would have been fun 👌I'am happy that I could try it at some nice gravel roads and Steve McQueen it though, not bad at all for a dealer demo. This thanks to Bike Trollhättan that ofc want me to get expensive ideas 😁😅, great dealer to let their customers get their ideas with a good rest ride at least. I will have a check at your channel and look for some serious offroad then ☝️😁 Happy trails!
@captainron79042 жыл бұрын
anyone know the weight difference between 1290 vs 790 ?
@Braapncamp2 жыл бұрын
Ca 30Kg seems to be the difference. You definitely feel the difference, but the 1290SAR is the coolest big bike I have ever ridden, felt nimble in it's class.
@MrPaulo14003 жыл бұрын
let's see if it is more reliable than the 790R...
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
...or the earlier 1290.
@MisterSuki3 жыл бұрын
Great bike that I was going to give a serious look...then I read specs. of a seat height in excess of 35 inches. Too tall for me. Multistrada 1260 maybe.
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
Before you decide, try to get a chance to sit on one. The SAR felt alot lower than my 790R. I was really comfy with planted foots on ground at the 1290SAR. The Multistrada is closer to the 1290SAS? And that is even lower than SAR. With that said, the Multistrada looks fab and must be an Alp serpentine killer, unfortunately i have never tried one.
@davindersangha37613 жыл бұрын
Now not a bike question. I have watched your review about the Amok. Would you buy again. And which one the Draumr 5.0 or the Ultra light? Hope your enjoying a small coffee! Thanks in advance.
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
Hey Davinder, i'm out hiking right now 👌i have both tents an conventional hammocks. The Draumr is of its owm kind since you are sleeping on a pad, no condensation like it could be in tents. I borreal areas it's the best there is. Between the 5.0 an UL it's a matter of weight. If you are hiking/backpacking alot, the UL wheights under 2Kg as complete set, that really great. After testing this weekend i'm impressed. For random use and avride i would recommend the 5.0, Fjøl UL and Skjold 10 UL as a kit. That is the best kit that could be combined for weight and robustness. I will make a video in a few days, with at least views.
@davindersangha37613 жыл бұрын
@@Braapncamp thanks Mattias!
@davindersangha37613 жыл бұрын
@@Braapncamp so I thought I had made the decision to buy, but in Canada the price is $800 with the tarp etc... is it worth it? Love great gear but not sure 800 for a hammock and it’s other parts is money well spent. Change my mind!
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
It is a decision for sure. As tents i have Hillebergs in different shapes. I compare Amok hammocks to these. Not other hammocks. This to it's cpmfort next to none compated to hammocks. In the price tou get a top end matress as well. This is something that jas to be added on top of a tent purchase. However it is definately an investment. A good tving is the very supportive and easy procedure to sentida it back if you're not happy.
@davindersangha37613 жыл бұрын
@@Braapncamp Thanks for getting back to me Mattias.
@espero77573 жыл бұрын
I would take my 790 again 😍
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
Sure I did as well, I don't need this power or weight. But never the less a great bike with fun factor, can't deny that.
@fernandob17823 жыл бұрын
Man that 790 looks bigger then the 1290 or is it just me ?
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
Hi Fernando! The 790 is taller at least 💪👌
@Parakitedude3 жыл бұрын
Compared to the old, how different are they? Going to sell my 701sm for a new adventure bike...had the tenere 700 last year but I didnt like it. Didnt feel as it had everything....
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
I got the same feeling, This new 1290 is totally redesigned so the old and ner should feel very different except in power. Impressive power...
@photodennis763 жыл бұрын
tjeenare är 1290 något lägre ??? =)
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
Tja, ja den är lägre än 790R. Man plattfotar denna lätt. Sadeln är djupare.
@photodennis763 жыл бұрын
@@Braapncamp taaaackar för svar haa de göött
@queenslander9543 жыл бұрын
It’s very pretty
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@Parakitedude3 жыл бұрын
Im to replace my 701sm, need a bike that can be run 100km on tarmac an then gravel. But is this to much? Is the 890 a better option? 50k cheaper...
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
For that thr 890 is great! The 890 is a bike good for all day riding on tarmac or gravel with the big plus that it also does great at rougher trails to the extent where a enduro does better.
@stolenthimes43913 жыл бұрын
I currently ride the 690 enduro 2019, and I am so tempted by the 790/890 and not at least the 1290 r. But I try to tell myself that as long as I ride without passanger theres no reason to change. And maybe theres stuff I can do on the 690 that I will struggle to do on the bigger ones. I know you had the 690 before, so whats your opinion?
@Parakitedude3 жыл бұрын
I ended up with the 701E 2021 and I have to say that I love that bike. Tested the 890ADR and the 1290SAR but I didn't like the 890 and the 1290SAR is too expensive. The 701E really is an dual sport, first I felt it was a pain to ride it on the highway but now I am used to it and I can say that compared to my previous tenere 700 this is a real offrad bike.
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
Great choice! I had a 690 Enduro many years as my do all adv bike. No problems do all day twisty tarmac or all day adv rides. Fun engine! Congrats!
@youfehakit3 жыл бұрын
I‘d like the new 1290R also - as my 3d KTM (Nr. 1: 790 R Rally, Nr. 2: EXC 350 6days Chile). But what to do with it - exzept admiring design and power? Unfortunately my bikes have to be able to get me to the “lost lake” and further in the south of Tunisia, as well over tricky single trails in the Alpes or Atlas. The 790 R Rallye manages to stay there with EXCs and consorts. The 1290R couldn’t - except maybe Chris would ever join one of my travels (wuestenfahrer.com).
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comment Thomas, with the 790RR you do not need a beast like this for the adventures you are mentioning. Except from enjoying the serpentines in the Alps. Great combo with the EXC👍. I decided 2 years ago to go from 2 bikes to 1 and the 790R ticked all my boxes for only have one bike for adventures, and it does it d*mn good. But for sure the 1290 SAR was a fun bike to twist, so now we have done that 👌😜. Happy trails Thomas!
@youfehakit3 жыл бұрын
@@Braapncamp Hi Mattias, thanks for your kind answer. For sure, if someday I come again to your country, I’send you a request for a little meeting. Ciao Thomas
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
You are welcome!
@stefanhorlacher15833 жыл бұрын
nice bike, just..tooo big ! 890 adv r it is...
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
A wonderful bike that has it all, but I was happy swinging the leg over mine on the way home. The 790/890 has enough power and feel closer to an enduro, and that's what we like 💪👍
@sauliskinnari1453 жыл бұрын
Den kanske får plats i garaget på husbilen?! 😜😀
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
😂😂 snarare en monkey bike, eller en KTM E-ride på kroken. Det hade varit något. Mer solceller på taket och ladda bara.
@sauliskinnari1453 жыл бұрын
@@Braapncamp ja, möjligheterna är många 😁
@thekellgrenadventure77723 жыл бұрын
Släpp nu! ☕️👈🏼 😀
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
Are You in TKA? 🍺👈🤠
@glenscannell12153 жыл бұрын
Better he runs the battery out. My 2014 starter is week . Maybe the 1290 starter will be stronger
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
I was worried about the battery status before it cranked up, i the power on position on along time before starting the machine. Better be careful with bikes that are just unboxed 😜.
@amaduulia89213 жыл бұрын
Advise me. Torn apart between this and the new hayabusa. I am currently on 1190 AdvR.
@amaduulia89213 жыл бұрын
How much is the R? I need to start saving quickly.
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
Hey, never been interested in the Busa so i can't advice on that one. For me it's clear that a Adv bike is more versatile and in that way more fun. But we could surely agree on that the 1290SAS or SAR is as close as an adv bike can get to a Busa ☝️😂. I think it's about 20K€.
@amaduulia89213 жыл бұрын
@@Braapncamp that's true. I am fully an adventure bike person. Thank you very much.
@EEEEMMMMKKKK3 жыл бұрын
Can you do the review of the Mosko Moto basilisk?
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
Yes i will! Bought it very late last year so i need more time with it to make any experienced comclusions. But so far it's the best jaket i have had and suits me well. Rock solid, well ventilated and totally waterproof. I really needed a new jacket even if the camo jacket i had before seeved me well. The Basilisk is in a totally other leage though.
@MrPep19653 жыл бұрын
Don’t do it Mattias!
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
Nope, i promise. The feeling when I jumped up on my 790R was like coming home. I don't need more power or weight. But I must say, this bike is agile and probably it will hands down win those "Alp bike contests". Ride serpentines in the alps and some double and single tracks now and then.
@thekellgrenadventure77723 жыл бұрын
Släpp nu! 😁☕️👈🏼
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
styggt va? 👀😂
@ceylonvillagefood36203 жыл бұрын
Good
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@cantero2bjornes3 жыл бұрын
Scyst mc e skal provas efter jag har henta hitt min 1290s 2019mod-
@ausforce13 жыл бұрын
More more more !!! There is no good content for the new 1290 SAR on KZbin 😔
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, unfortunately I can't help You but others should! There must have been many deliveries by now. Chris Birch has great content with cool riding and a very honest and down to earth review on the 1290SAR. Even compared to the 790/890 Adv R. This from a pro perspective, I'm just the average Swede 😂💪
@ausforce13 жыл бұрын
@@Braapncamp Thank you for your video, We have learned more about this new SAR from watching the first two minutes of your ride footage then we would from watching hours of the professionals repeating the same sales pitch material. Cheers mate.
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
😂 sometimes i get bored of thes type of videos as well. But they stay strct to the protocol and numbers, sure this is great info. But when You've seen one then You are done. I'm actually surprised that there aren't many owners videos out yet. However a really nice bike and in my eyes the most do it all bike out there of the big bikes. The competitors are not as do it all for the average rider. Cheers my advriding friend!
@toby75043 жыл бұрын
Very nice bike and engien, but its just to much electronics.
@Braapncamp3 жыл бұрын
I did not notice much of the electronics, I had my hand full to control the throttle! 😂😂💪🤠🤘