Cheap Bike Showdown | Trail Bike VS DH Bike!

[@gmbn]

What's your favourite type of MTB? Let us know down below! 👇

[@Paganiproductions84]

xc hardtails

[@Legropes]

a canyon spectral i hard to beat, cheap price and great quality

[@tomholmez12]

Good to see calibre still getting love, i really hope they can make a come back one day

[@tomholmez12]

Literally just seen their website/brand is copywrited 2023, maybe there is hope afterall

[@SagnikDasgupta]

I'm so confused. The wheels on the nukeproof themselves cost £500...

[@HavokTheorem]

I think he didn't count the price because he already had them...?

[@daray666]

​@@HavokTheorem Yeah but that is very much "cheating", same with an older cheap bike episode where Blake just changed the complete fork... that's not really something the monetarily handicapped can do.

[@darian_eugene_1452]

@@HavokTheorem yes he mentioned that in the build

[@ondrejjanoska660]

@@HavokTheorem he had them from a sponsor 🤣… so it is free … you do not have a sponsor? They free on every corner 😂

[@Itsallgud]

Yeah I was thinking the same thing, I love the series, but would prefer if they were a bit more honest on the prices for an average rider, $1000 downhill bike vs $1000 trail bike is still a reasonable “cheap bike” comparison!

[@elrictdb]

Built my daughter (13 yo) a Giant Anthem full sus - 26" with 1x9 for under £300 and it is PLENTY bike for her - just added a dropper for £50 in the recent sales too. Out of the two in this video definitely the bossnut, as I was looking at the Calibre range and had nearly convinced myself to buy a Triple B (Bossnut big brother) when they stopped being able to source them. I now have an old busted calibre guantlet hardtail to do up for eldest daughter to compliment her school commuter bike.

[@SergejGrabun]

Bossnut, simply because you can use it everywhere (pretty much)

[@junka1975]

Just fun watching Blake and Neil shred and getting big air.

[@isaacm7721]

I actually have a Calibre Bossnut and that thing is money! The geometry hits the spot with whatever I'm riding and it's packed with quality parts for the price! Best bike I've ever owned!

[@geritmacdowell1057]

I would go for the Bossnut, they are really well geared and they're just a great bike all around.

[@astott288]

The Calibre Bossnut was a great bike trail bike at a very affordable price as an introduction to Full Suspension Mountain Biking. Unfortunately after two years of fun I demo'd an e-MTB and sold the Bossnut to fund the ebike, and I haven't looked back, but still have fond memoires of my first FS MTB.

[@MrReivn]

Trail bike all the way. As you said, if you don't live near a downhill center with lifts to the top. you either push it up, or you're screwed. Trail bike goes everywhere, a bit like an xc, but better downhill performance...

[@gmbn]

Yeah, great point! Trail bikes are way more versatile! 👍

[@ekims_echoes]

The cheap downhill bike seems like a great choice for a second or third bike, especially if one lives near, and frequently goes to, a downhill park. However, versatility is king in my book and I'd choose a trail bike that I can take on a long ride, pedaling up and down over a single speed downhill machine. I think there should have been multiple points awarded to being able to ride uphill and general versatility.

[@FatalCrest6]

Really stoked Neil took out the 26' again, it does look like a fun bike.

[@jakeadams4419]

Just built up a Ragley Mmmbop, being savvy and buying up all the parts in the sales. 2022 Ragley Mmmmbop frame, Pike RCT3, Dt Swiss m1900 wheelset, Deore group set, SLX brakes, Nukeproof pedals, bars and stem, Brand X dropper and headset, and Ergon grips. All for the total price of £790, only the forks were second-hand. A truly capable bike for the money. If you know what you're looking for and what represents good value, you can build a bike that's worth more than the sum of its parts!

[@alexh.4068]

The more I compare my 27.5 enduro bike to my 26 full sus park bike.. the more I realize the 26er makes me feel more nimble and in tune with the trail. Whereas the 27.5 feels more stable/confident but more dulled out. Bit of a sad realization as I think we'd all love to have the best of both worlds.

[@user-yv2cz8oj1k]

What? Sorry can't hear you. I'm having too much fun whizzing around on my 29er. 🤣

[@carlstanton2550]

Make a mullet then!27.5 and 26 mullet, ultimate fun then! Mind you,I love my 29er cos it just ploughs through everything!

[@alexh.4068]

@@carlstanton2550 I’m aware it is an option but the bb height would get ridiculously low imo, but you’re right it may be the best solution.

[@gmbn]

Yeah, it seems like 26" wheels are still great for downhill riding. At the most recent Rampage, we saw some riders running a "mini mullet" setup which consists of having a 27.5" front and a 26" rear wheel.

[@user-yv2cz8oj1k]

@@alexh.4068 then use a frame for 26" wheels and 27.5" wheel forks, then the BB can only go up!

[@bumpytrailsproductions]

Great video guys! As always thank you for all the content and the effort you put in these videos! Respect!

[@gmbn]

Thanks so much! We couldn't make videos without you amazing people! Safe riding! 🤘

[@22Jeffers]

Obviously bossnut is more versatile but if you have a trail bike already, the nukeproof is for bike park fun.

[@craigbest8644]

Correct me if I'm wrong but the Bossnut didn't come with a dropper new from the shop.

[@vwnutdamo]

Spot on. The dropper and hope brakes are all after market. I've got the same bike. Don't get me wrong it's a great entry level bike but it's a bit disingenuous to say it came with all that kit for it's rrp 🤣

[@craigbest8644]

@@vwnutdamo they are good bikes for the money or they were but the lack of a dropper but me off so I bought a Line 10 hardtail instead.

[@TobiB89]

Pretty sure a new bossnut for 1000 £ doesn't come with Hope brakes though...

[@dr.robotnik7334]

It doesn’t lol. Maybe someone on Facebook just sold it for cheap.

[@IIJAMZYII]

Yeah no Hope breaks or Dopper on them from new.

[@JSabh]

Picked up a Fezzari Fore Core3 carbon for 100$ off an eBay auction. Fastest and most fun bike for casual rides ever for me. Its a race bike but whatever lol it handles gravel fine.

[@makro6321]

Sorry Neil, Blake wins. Dropper post plus hope brakes. If I only had one bike it would be the Calibre

[@vspecnurr34]

I've got a santa cruz superlight 2012 26", cost £5000(custom) new and cost me £350 second hand 😁it's bloody awesome. Sram X0-X9 shimano xtr (mix) fox factory suspension, Easton ea90 wheels and lots of hope parts

[@PmatWolf]

Fore some of us your cheap bike content is absolutely priceless, i love the bossnut as an entry level bike, personally i ended up building up 2 Giant Trances (one for me and one for the missus) both 27.5..... BUT that old Nukeproof is just a pure adrenaline shot ..... this has made me want to find an old 26er DH bike or frame and build it up ......... OBTW BLAKE what have you done to me..... I'm now building up a Rad Hardtail thanks to you buddy (2016 Voodoo Hoodoo 27.5, Suntour AION 150mm forks fitted via a Oversize headtube adapter 1 1/8 to 1.5, Wake Stem, Bucklos 780mm wide 30mm rise Bars, IXF 1x conversion Cranks and BB, Meroca M4 Brakes, Magic mary tires and a desert storm paint job... yes its a budget build but its bloody awesome.... well done fellas

[@phillee9651]

west wales , where i ride the trails are loops .. up and down double challenge .

[@rafe7678]

I'd go for the nukeproof because I have a trial bike but no downhill bike

[@gmbn]

The Nukeproof Scalp is a beast! What are your thoughts on 26" wheel downhill bikes?

[@rafe7678]

@@gmbn I don't know if it would really work for me because I'm 6'4" but for flow trails I can't see it being much of a problem

[@jonathanlindup3269]

I got a scalp for £500, love it! jumps great, fitted a dropper, bigger rear cassette,smaller chain ring so pedals fine on the flat, bit of a struggle to climb , bossnut is a better all rounder but the scalp is a classic dh shredder!

[@gmbn]

Sounds great!

[@crundwell1]

Having owned one. The Bossnut by a mile

[@glennoc8585]

Good deals but no dropper post? Not sure about 26er after having 29ers and a 650b

[@patrickheavey9090]

It doesn't matter what you ride. It only matters that you ride!

[@gmbn]

We 100% agree!! 👊

[@jaypopsti]

So which helmet brand do you guys like best…..POC or Smith?

[@codyhirsch2230]

I got a 2007 specialized big hit for $200 (USA). Love the cheap bikes off of facebook marketplace!

[@IIJAMZYII]

I have a that Bossnut!

[@andyamos8594]

Come on guys, we need a replay but this time with authentic real World £500 bikes, all in, including any post purchase extras like adding a new chain or tyres etc. Saying that I´d allow personal pedals!😀

[@anitalandkroon]

Great video 😃 both beautiful MTB but my preference is for the Bosnut 😎

[@TE_53349]

i have a nukeproof scalp (my profile pic) and i got it for £200. put around £800 in upgrades and i love it. wouldnt have any other bike cause im a short guy

[@TheButlerNZ]

#askGMBN Here's an idea for a vid. Get some viewers/staff bikes... Run them through a test track... then Maintain/tune/repair them and run them again and see how much better they are. (Obviously choose bikes with mediocre maintenance or bad tunes...) Bonus... The viewers get their bike back with a free repair/tune. Rules of engagement... No upgrades(Other than tyres), new oil/chain/cables/tyres/pads/bearings/grips allowed (and possibly replacement like for like of anything beyond repair (derailleur, sprockets, etc.)). Shame I can't b there with my never tuned, barely maintained 2010 Giant Faith but NZ's a bit far to travel from.

[@gmbn]

Thanks for the idea! It sounds like a good video! 👊

[@TheButlerNZ]

@@gmbn Can't wait.

[@2scoops624]

If I didn't have a mtb, I would take the Bossnut, but since I already have a 140mm tail bike, I'll take the Nukeproof.

[@gmbn]

Good choice! 🔥

[@kyleslater5245]

I dunno. While the nukeproof is a better frame as such. The bossnut still seems like better value to me as most don’t actually ride dh trails.

[@user-yv2cz8oj1k]

So was it £600 for the Hope brakes and they threw in the Calibre Bossnut for free just so they wouldn't rattle around? 🤔🤣

[@ashleytombs]

I have to agree with Neil peddling A single speed up a hill is a nightmare especially if it’s a JB like my Alcatraz never mind DH But a DH is even harder specially those folks upfront and the 36 chain ring no need to go to the gym all week just spend a day street riding cardio pedaling all Day alms caring a old school DH bike upstairs workout done lol

[@skatekido06]

I'd like to see you guys review a giant hardtail

[@DaOneJoel]

That Nukeproof with a 1 by 12 would be amazing

[@michaelbatey348]

Your using a 500 quid set of wheels and a newly serviced fork bit unfair of a comparison

[@adrian_veidt]

Nukeproof scout gets the nod for me. Always love DH bikes 👌

[@daray666]

Scout is the hardtail, not the downhill bike

[@adrian_veidt]

@@daray666 I forgot about the hardtail. It turns out I misheard 2012 Scalp to Scout the way neil pronounced it.

[@hansmaker1236]

i would take the NUKEDROOF, im in love with those BoXXer forks

[@campbellspears3929]

I'm drinking a cuppa tea right now 🤣👍🤟

[@chrisridesbicycles]

The idea of having a cheap park bike starts to stick with me. Neil, maybe you can make a video with the Tech channel what to look for and what to avoid when you go shopping for bargains. I guess there are some now-obsolete „standards“ from 10 years ago that didn‘t stick which you should avoid.

[@gwbeckerplsdotcom]

What’s the deal with nuke proof? As an American it just rings bells of hubs in the 1990’s. Is that the same company?

[@METEORA_47]

love that trail

[@AndreasRavnestad]

Blakes front tyre is on backwards again :P

[@Zimblake]

😂😂 spotted

[@gmbn]

😂

[@Paganiproductions84]

Can you the same test whit cheap xc bikes

[@zacjohnsonmtb]

I got a great bargain on a mongoose teocali elite 2006 for $250 AUD with 130mm travel

[@MCNIBBLE]

I would be happy to have a bosnut in the stable

[@harrygrimley4352]

This is a bit misleading. Thumbnail says 500 and the first price is 1000. That's DOUBLE. And parts added that are not added in the total?

[@TwinPeaks_MTB]

Hey guys, absolutely love the content on the cheaper builds, so relatable and sometime super sketch, but you always end up super stoked! 😂🤟 Quick edit - You should take these bikes into respective races and see how they perform!

[@gmbn]

We're stoked that you enjoy the cheap bike content! We always have a great laugh making videos like this! We'd love to! Thanks for the suggestion! 👍

[@carlstanton2550]

Surely you should ride the trail twice?once on your bike,and then swap and ride it again.thats the best test for which one is more fun, otherwise I could just say a shopping trolley should be the winner,cos it was more fun.i love that you're doing this,don't get me wrong,it just feels like you should be swapping bikes for a more genuine result.

[@greengonzonz]

Love me some single speed 💙

[@Professor_Schall]

i dont know if its the camera picture making this look more like a "rust-chain" rather than a gold chain😂🙈but actually,i would prefer the trailbike as a cheap version,because its more versatile,and would actually lay out a bit more like 1500,for a good downhill bike with saint brakes, good suspension components,and a 7 Speed GX DH,like i did with my 2014 Knolly Podium.

[@alexturnqest6202]

So translation. Buy a full used suspension trail bike with 150mil of travel. Or if you truly have downhill bits maybe an used enduro so you can actually use the bike on the pedaly bits. 😂

[@marvintpandroid2213]

Are you doing April fools day early this year?

[@gmbn]

We couldn't tell you that! 😏😉

[@THEGEEK2001]

The best bike is one you can actually ride. afford and ride.

[@Wheelsanstuff]

But didn’t Neil use parts bin parts 🤔 So value… goes to Blake

[@IanMaddock]

Bossnut bought off marketplace.. That's stolen then 🤣 Incidentally I've not seen a new bossnut for a while now and they were well over £1k. The £1k bike now at GoOutdoors is the Jamis Dakar, I have one. Spec wise they are more on par with a cube than a bossnut.

[@thepro08]

the f up is not the price of getting this bikes, is not living anywere near a place that can take you up and a dh bike only works down..... i have a nice double suspension from a expensive brand and wish i had bigger suspensions but then it would be a pain to cicle around

[@jameswilson2815]

Uhh, bare with me, what's a quid? Mahalo for your patience. Aloha.🤙

[@ZammyCloak]

Thanks for all the motivation 🤙

[@thinkitbig9292]

Did he call it a nukeproof scout downhill bike

[@daray666]

Scalp not Scout

[@martinmorais7780]

It’s a Nukeproof Scalp .

[@gmbn]

Yeah, it's the Nukeproof Scalp. 👍

[@phanderstorm0835]

No POC helmet’s anymore

[@KeironStarr]

No I think they've partnered with Smiths helmets now

[@johns9974]

Can we see you riding back up please 🙂

[@gilevans8444]

Vitus escarpe 2017 £750

[@sundayscaries11]

How about a video finding a bike at the lowest cost that has specs that check all the boxes that you must have, just without any bells and whistles🤔

[@jonnypennell2428]

Haha nukeproffcost 700 proff is in the vidio

[@Paganiproductions84]

I would pick the train bike in this so Blake his steet

[@buhnaan9]

"500 pounds bike" meanwhile runs SRAM Code ultimate brakes that costs more than the entire build.

[@Emtbtoday]

This should be a good video as there is loads these DH nukeproofs online for sale for between 500 and 700 and a couple them ugly Boss lol

[@JeffersonPuhawan]

blake, why the chains though T_T ahaha

[@richr7516]

Oh come on Neil. I got a work mate that could ride that thing up that hill and probably beat Blake, no joke, he's not called the monster for nothing.🙃

[@ArtHistoryNstuff332]

Come one, these bikes are not cheap, be honest with us. More affordable than most, sure, but not cheap.

[@jonoquibell6286]

Great video as always, would be cool to see a sub £1000 full sus go against a sub £1000 hardtail

[@rider65]

You must live in a bubble 🤦‍♂️

[@jonoquibell6286]

@@rider65 whys that then pal?

[@gmbn]

Thanks, Jono! Cheers for the support! Thanks for the suggestion! Here's a similar video we've made. 👍 kzbin.info/www/bejne/a5y2k4uCn79sabM

[@bobothericefarmer1878]

The trail bike lookin like a brick with wheels

[@ontwowheels151]

Yeahhhhhhh another cheap bike video

[@gmbn]

The best videos! 😉 Glad you enjoyed! 👍

[@Rudiudiii]

£500 for the nukeproof really?

[@perspectivedetective2703]

sheet content, how you gonna keep it up?

[@Egor_marksman]

Ждем перевод раскладного

[@awalkwithtilly6512]

Five hundred pounds cheap bike different world.

[@ShannonSouthAfrica]

"Cheap"

[@hugohammond1301]

Shut up Niel, we all know that's not even close to a £500 bike with all your upgrades

[@K.V.P14]

Love your content but calling the nukeproof a 500 pound bike is an insult to our intelligence, no one has those forks and wheels just ' lying around ', love your content but cmon guys

[@ondrejjanoska660]

500£ ey? Sometimes you upload also gut content…. A lot of time just 💩

[@ЧайноСлу]

eah!

[@alanmtbuk]

Nukie