Cheap Generator Better Than Honda? Predator vs Honda & GENMAX-Let’s Settle This!

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Жыл бұрын

Honda vs Predator and Genmax Inverter Generators compared for fuel efficiency, voltage drop during high energy demand applications, cleanliness of electricity (pure sine wave), noise, vibration, and engine wear. I hired an independent oil lab to analyze the motor oil for engine wear metals after almost 98 hours of engine use. Honda EU2200i, GENMAX GM2200i, Predator 2000.
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@Crumpy627
@Crumpy627 Жыл бұрын
This guy is truly doing everyone an amazing service. What a champion.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@chadclark2070
@chadclark2070 Жыл бұрын
This channel is awesome
@dwayne7356
@dwayne7356 Жыл бұрын
You are doing the job that Consumer Reports used to do.
@weaselduke
@weaselduke Жыл бұрын
I would go so far as Legend.
@timothyandrewnielsen
@timothyandrewnielsen Жыл бұрын
Truly is a hero.
@drmohammedalmasri
@drmohammedalmasri Жыл бұрын
Todd went this time the extra mile and sent the oil to the lab to ensure the most accurate results, this is turning from a KZbin channel to a serious testing facility. Amazing work as always!
@joshhamel5853
@joshhamel5853 Жыл бұрын
He does that all the time.
@smeezekitty
@smeezekitty Жыл бұрын
Not to mention and oscilloscope and vibration meter. And to think this guy started off his channel doing crazy experiments on a lawnmower engine. Now he's building up a testing lab
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion.
@herculesbrofister265
@herculesbrofister265 Жыл бұрын
@@ProjectFarm i'd like to see more walmart stuff; hyper tough, blackmaxx (they have a generator at my local store for about $468), and so on. The stores are everywhere and the have numerous forms of credit like their Capital One card and affirm, which makes them pretty easily attainable options. But the question is, are they good?
@whiskey86tv
@whiskey86tv 4 ай бұрын
I didn’t even know a generator review could be so well done. I’ve probably been watching generator reviews for the last eight years for various reasons and this is the gold standard.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 4 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@charlesgreenwood6181
@charlesgreenwood6181 2 ай бұрын
This is the best comparison of any products online, least filler junk possible. I nominate your for a Emmy, Grammy, and a Nobel!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 2 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@mr.normalguy69
@mr.normalguy69 Жыл бұрын
Project Farm is practically a messiah for the average consumer. He compares various products, cuts through all the marketing stuff with actual testing, and allows us to decide which product is the best overall, best for value for money and the worst. God bless this guy for the work he puts in for his video 👍
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@pauldean7690
@pauldean7690 Жыл бұрын
@Dr Poo exactly he is the real Consumer's Report and I have purchase many items base on his testings
@andrewrehnert4997
@andrewrehnert4997 Жыл бұрын
He’s on a mission from God 🤣🤣🤣
@owendavies8113
@owendavies8113 Жыл бұрын
I completely agree...Thank you!
@JEJAK5396
@JEJAK5396 Жыл бұрын
Messiah is a bit much. How about, “truth teller”?
@RobertL78
@RobertL78 Жыл бұрын
One thing to remember on most of these generators is that the air intake for the cooling and the engine is through the bottom. So if you run them on gravel or grass, put some metal or plywood under them and the inside will stay much cleaner.
@sgnt9337
@sgnt9337 Жыл бұрын
Good to know. Thanks for posting this.
@brutongaster8184
@brutongaster8184 Жыл бұрын
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@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback.
@Stewie81693
@Stewie81693 Жыл бұрын
This is good info.
@acmeopinionfactory8018
@acmeopinionfactory8018 Жыл бұрын
Robert L I've got mine sitting on a 2'X2' rubber pad from harbor freight, which they sell for ten bux for four of them, it also cuts down on transmitted vibrations. I move it slightly on occasion as the feet tend to sink into the pad a bit, but it recovers.
@CoolBlue87GT
@CoolBlue87GT 4 ай бұрын
My Honda EU2000i is over 20 years old, still running great. It got me through hurricane Charley in 2004 & IAN in 2022 in SW Florida. Getting 9 hours run time on a tank (ECO mode) powering large fridge, mini fridge, large chest freezer, fans and various lights & phone chargers. In 2022 I bought a EU2200 to have as a spare, haven't needed it yet ! Great testing, thanks.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 4 ай бұрын
Nice. You are welcome!
@petergriffin383
@petergriffin383 Ай бұрын
Can I run the Honda EU2200 outside during a rain storm?
@CoolBlue87GT
@CoolBlue87GT Ай бұрын
@@petergriffin383 It's best to shield it from rain. I have run mine in the rain - although I did put a trash can next to it with scrap plywood board on top on the can to keep most of the rain off the front panel. My current house has a 3 ft soffit over hang that keeps most of the rain off - as long as the wind isn't blowing sidewise.
@petergriffin383
@petergriffin383 Ай бұрын
@@CoolBlue87GT Thank you for the reply
@thaknobodi
@thaknobodi 16 күн бұрын
I was under the impression these Hondas came out in like 2015 😂 but that's when i first saw a review on my KZbin feed
@madvilprdc08
@madvilprdc08 4 ай бұрын
I would love to see some reviews and comparisons on whole house generators. Thank you for all of your videos, they have been a great help on countless things!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 4 ай бұрын
Thanks and you are welcome! Glad to hear! Thanks for the suggestion.
@scottgallagher5
@scottgallagher5 Жыл бұрын
as a generator connoisseur, this is the video where you surpass consumer reports. Amazing work!
@amazingdany
@amazingdany Жыл бұрын
I love CR!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@pfitz4881
@pfitz4881 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately Consumer Reports have gone way down hill over the past few years. Doing things like testing many products, but from only a couple manufactures.. all of which are very similar to each other. In the past they'd test products from many more manufactures which is much more useful that rating 20 "vacuum cleaners" (using as an example only) from only 3 manufactures. Canceled my subscription over a year ago. I find Project Farm does a much better job. Keep up the good work.
@BlondieSL
@BlondieSL Жыл бұрын
@@pfitz4881 These days, I consider "Consumer Reports" to be nothing more than PAID-FOR BS falsehoods to get people to buy products." This channel does the real thing, which is refreshing.
@scottgallagher5
@scottgallagher5 Жыл бұрын
@@pfitz4881 couldn't agree more. we can say that about a lot of niche KZbinrs these days. budget doesn't dictate quality. and quality can't be driven by corporate relationships. PF is quality with authenticity.
@kylelobberman4546
@kylelobberman4546 Жыл бұрын
Honda, Yamaha & Champion are considered the big 3 in generators for job sites... would love to see Yamaha and Champion tested like this. Especially the oil test as nobody else does that and it's very indicative of engine longevity.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video idea.
@davejmathis
@davejmathis Жыл бұрын
@@ProjectFarm I'd love to see a dual fuel generator added to the mix to compare the benefits/tradeoffs of gas vs. propane.
@spyda450
@spyda450 Жыл бұрын
Really amazed that Yamaha wasn't included or another brand like Generac (Generac's tend to be used as whole-house generators).
@rogerstlaurent8704
@rogerstlaurent8704 Жыл бұрын
i would buy a champion over a honda any day The older Honda Generator were good and lasted there inverter generator are JUNK just to replace that one part is more then the generator itself and good luck buying that Inverter part unavailable and the warranty is also a joke good luck with that Honda Generators are very expensive boat ankers if you got to Tray fixes all youtube channel he has a very good video about Honda Generators and why not to buy them he speaks highly about Champion Generators and why they are worth the money over a Honda very over price equipment Harbor Freight is good but its a hit or missed you get a good product or a piece of junk product as for Yamaha never really worked on them not sure how good they are
@406Steven
@406Steven Жыл бұрын
My only experience with Champion generators is people who think it's a good idea to run one in a campground. Lots of watts for cheap isn't necessarily good. I've also camped next to someone with a pair of smaller Yamaha generators with the parallel adapter and, given their reputation, I was blown away by just how loud they were. For cost/performance/noise I like Wen generators as they are very reliable, quiet, good on fuel, and inexpensive.
@Fire_Asian24
@Fire_Asian24 8 ай бұрын
I’ve had a Honda Eu2000i (paired) for years. Thought it was quite expensive for a recreational generator but knew it was one of the best in terms of stable-smooth power. Once again, your vids are absolutely fantastic and vendors should take NOTE of this channel. Thanks! -Nokki / Dallas, TX
@user-db7hl2hp6h
@user-db7hl2hp6h 8 ай бұрын
Bro...your testing is SICK!!! thank you for taking the time to do this. I did not know anyone was doing such specific analysis!! I would like to see the common residential Standby Generators, big enough to power a home, say 20kw plus if you could get them sponsored for you do not have to pay of them. Champion, Generac Guardian Series, Kohler, Cummins, etc. BUT I would imagine this would be a huge comparison job. BUT with the way power is going and standby generators being so important I would hope that video would get tons of views. Thank you again!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video idea.
@brentfellers9632
@brentfellers9632 Жыл бұрын
In canada these generators are more expensive . While working for a rental company a customer returned a 2000w honda generator that had fell of a truck on the highway 😮 It was in a dozen or more pieces. The manager wrote it off, so my coworker began to reassemble the thing using jb weld and zip ties. It seriously looked like Frankenstein with all those zip ties for stiches, EVERYTHING worked except eco mode! Gotta love a honda!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Жыл бұрын
Impressive!! JB Weld can fix just about anything. lol
@brentfellers9632
@brentfellers9632 Жыл бұрын
@@ProjectFarm j. B. Is my favorite welder!
@twistedhillbilly6157
@twistedhillbilly6157 Жыл бұрын
No duct tape?? What are you people up there?? Animals????
@chassy
@chassy Жыл бұрын
​@@twistedhillbilly6157 😂
@5toolman6
@5toolman6 Жыл бұрын
@@twistedhillbilly6157 He didn't watch Red Green.
@magnus150
@magnus150 Жыл бұрын
On the vein of generators, I use propane/gasoline dual input generators since propane is a bit easier to store and keep stable I just keep several tanks around. Next time you do generators, a propane based one would be interesting to see in both power and noise. Great as always!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Жыл бұрын
Great video idea! Thank you
@HawaiiSustainable
@HawaiiSustainable Жыл бұрын
I’ve seen videos where they convert the Honda to run on propane considered it for the storage benefit
@bansheedearg
@bansheedearg Жыл бұрын
A lifetime ago I worked at Penco making lockers and industrial shelving. The forklifts in the factory ran on propane because it was safer. I'd like to know the carbon monoxide differences between running on gas v.s. propane with a genny.
@jamesray9009
@jamesray9009 Жыл бұрын
ya agreed I'm saving up for a duel fuel myself I'll take the performance hit of propane just need to get the bigger gen..
@DracoOmnia
@DracoOmnia Жыл бұрын
​@@bansheedearg safe"r" being the key there. You are still combusting oxygen in an enclosed space and producing co (among other things). Think about the whole natural gas/propane oven debacle recently (and the fact no indoor gasoline ovens exist), it's safe-ish, depending on the size of your house, ventilation, season, airtightness of the home etc.
@timmy8784
@timmy8784 Ай бұрын
These reviews are so addicting. You are doing amazing work taking out all the subjectivity. Pretty much one of the only places I can go to be confident I’m getting unbiased results. Great work!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Ай бұрын
Thanks!
@DeepDoseMusic
@DeepDoseMusic 9 ай бұрын
Just witnessed the most thorough yet efficiently delivered comparison video ive ever seen.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 9 ай бұрын
Thanks so much!
@gimpygrump3947
@gimpygrump3947 Жыл бұрын
I'm a Fleet Mechanic. We used to run Honda's for all our generators and water pumps. Due to operator error in leaving the fuel open and washing the cylinder walls on a regular basis we switched to Yamaha generators and water pumps. Under $400 cad, they perform just the same and they have all out lasted the old Honda's
@travisjazzbo3490
@travisjazzbo3490 Жыл бұрын
I've heard good things about Yamahas> Thanks for sharing. Would have been cool to see that one in the mix
@SiXiam
@SiXiam Жыл бұрын
Not sure where you are getting that price on the Yamahas. They are similar to the Honda price.
@ed-gw3ov
@ed-gw3ov Жыл бұрын
@@SiXiam Just bought a Yamaha 2200 @ $1,299.00 US + tax
@thecloneguyz
@thecloneguyz Жыл бұрын
We always use STABIL in the fuel and we always run the carburetor completely out of fuel before we store it and we've never had a problem in 20 years
@yzrippin
@yzrippin Жыл бұрын
​@thecloneguyz yeah but Taryl fixes all showed all fuel additives dont work. Its really just ethanol in the fuel or not that matters
@deandennis2838
@deandennis2838 Жыл бұрын
As a retired electrical engineer, I love seeing the oscilloscope readings of the output. I never realized how great a difference there was. Thank you!!
@imkaneforever
@imkaneforever Жыл бұрын
Could you explain what the dirty electricity means? Is it just not a proper polarity change within the certain frequency?
@alfredotovar8984
@alfredotovar8984 Жыл бұрын
I too would like to know 🤔
@IronArmPanda
@IronArmPanda Жыл бұрын
@@alfredotovar8984 It means the frequency is either too high or too low and the voltage has too much variation. I'm guessing the cheapies are using cheap components and less than stellar invertor circuits. There's also probably missing filtering circuits like what the Honda has. Alot of newer electronics will not have a fun time on a generator with too much variation under load.
@ryanjay6241
@ryanjay6241 Жыл бұрын
@@IronArmPanda Actually, it's quite the opposite. Most "newer electronics" are the ones that will suffer least from bad sine waves. Anything with an SMPS (computers, phone chargers, etc) have no problems operating at anything between 40-80hz and really don't care how clean the power source is. "Older" electronics or things like amplifier that often still have linear supplies will be more heavily affected. Most likely anything with a motor as well.
@Bassguitarist1985
@Bassguitarist1985 Жыл бұрын
​@@imkaneforever dirty electricity means two things. Here in the USA we have 60 Hertz and 120/240 volts. The first aspect of dirty electricity is called total harmonic distortion. This basically means there are voltages present at the higher harmonics so we can have 30 volts at 120 Hz or 15 volts at 240HZ. These voltages are basically not doing anything to power the load but instead create waste heat which can shorten the life of electronics. The utility grid states that you will never see anything beyond 5% harmonic distortion. That's considered very clean. Portable generators non-inverter type can have harmonic distortion as much as 20%!!! Most low-power switch mode power supplies are tolerant of high THD because they are overbuilt to handle the excess heat. Make no mistake though over time high THD will cause these devices to fail. The second aspect of dirty electricity is RFI. This is especially present on inverter type generators. It's basically the same as harmonic distortion but at a much smaller voltage at a much higher frequency somewhere in the 20k to 50khz region typically. The noise comes from the transistors turning on and off very quickly in order to approximate the sine wave that we would normally find in our house outlets from the grid. This on/off action creates the RFI noise. Normally there are filtering components added at the inverter output to keep the level of this interference noise below certain established industry limits called FCC 15. Sometimes this could cause problems with some electronics. There is always going to be some of this RFI on inverter generators even with proper filtering and can be heard with high quality audio devices. There are filters that you can buy however to make this noise go away pretty much.
@darkstaroblivion
@darkstaroblivion 4 ай бұрын
i have the predator . got mine during a personal emergency in temps of -20 this lil unit saved my family from a dangerous winter storm in northern colorado have had this for two years and never once any issues past forgetting the vent on the cap lol
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the feedback.
@mveaglespirit
@mveaglespirit 8 ай бұрын
I bought a Generac 3000i because all the tests and comparisons I could find said it was at least as quiet as the Honda 2200, but it made more power and was less expensive. Would love to see how that Generac would do in one of your tests. Great work and thanks for doing what you do!
@anthonynicholich9654
@anthonynicholich9654 4 ай бұрын
You made a poor decision by buying generac. I worked on generators my whole life and I'll tell you that you never see 30, 40 or 50 year old generec (not sure if they even existed then) only honda and Yamaha. That's alright if everyone was smart who would keep generac in business.
@mveaglespirit
@mveaglespirit 3 ай бұрын
@@anthonynicholich9654 Thanks ever so much for your opinion. Show me a 50 year old Honda 2200, lol. I wanted the most power from the quietest one I could get and this is it. It also has a handy shore power outlet on it. We had a Generac Generator at our house for 28 years and it was fine.
@SeaPro360
@SeaPro360 3 ай бұрын
The Hondas are on sale right now for $999
@anthonynicholich9654
@anthonynicholich9654 3 ай бұрын
@@mveaglespirit Asking me to show you 50-year-old Honda 2200 is like asking to show you a 50 Toyota Prius! Your question doesn't make any sense. Just like 50 years ago Toyota had a Corolla Cressida and a Pickup Honda had different models of genitors then. I am most likely wasting my time with a low intelligence grown man like you having to explain this! If you had any intelligence you would not be believing the generac is better than Honda to begin with so of course it's time wasting for me. I can show you a models of Hondas that a 50 years old like EX 400, 500 EX Ex1000 EX2000. Honda's first generator on Canadian and US market was 1962. Where was genetac then? I bet you are one of those people that have a Chrysler or Ford in the driveway believing is as good as Toyota and Honda. If I was you I'd be careful where you say generic is better than Honda or Yamaha because people might laugh at you.
@mveaglespirit
@mveaglespirit 3 ай бұрын
@@SeaPro360 Not a bad price, but I don't need one now.
@sshuggi
@sshuggi Жыл бұрын
Would be interested in these tests on the Champion dual fuel generators. It's about the same price as the predator, but can run on propane too, which is great cause it runs way longer right from the tank and propane doesn't go bad.
@BradiKal61
@BradiKal61 Жыл бұрын
I agree
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Жыл бұрын
Great suggestion! If there's enough interest in this video, I'll do it.
@Hermod_Hermit
@Hermod_Hermit Жыл бұрын
Dual fuel generators are definitely interesting.
@unionse7en
@unionse7en Жыл бұрын
I have a champion dual fuel. I've never run it on propane because gasoline is much cheaper (Colorado). I have modified it for remote start, which also saves fuel. If I was using it for emergency only than I might use propane because more stable storage than gasoline.
@volvo09
@volvo09 Жыл бұрын
I converted my generator to propane as a 2nd fuel option. I test it on propane, and keep the fuel tank empty for when I really need it. Good to have 2 fuel options, although propane is much more expensive than gas.
@andytommykeddy3224
@andytommykeddy3224 Жыл бұрын
Great video! A buddy of mine had one of the same Honda generators. He was working on his boat and it fell of the boat rate in the salt water. We recovered it and changed all the fluids. It still runs today can’t beat a Honda!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Thanks for sharing.
@peteduncan921
@peteduncan921 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for another comprehensive test video from Project Farm. This kind of information is a great help for folks trying to choose between these products. I do wonder why the oil was measured by weight for this testing. I've always assumed that oil quantities were specified in terms of fluid ounces (volume), so I was puzzled by the use of a weighing scale for measuring "ounces" of oil for these generators.
@ainttakenanyshit
@ainttakenanyshit 10 ай бұрын
ME TO....
@jimmyd6695
@jimmyd6695 4 ай бұрын
I truly appreciate the very detailed and thorough videos. You sure do go the extra mile. Keep doing what you are doing. I watch you all the time !!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 4 ай бұрын
Thanks, will do!
@TheGrkz
@TheGrkz Жыл бұрын
Being that summer is right around the corner, it would be helpful if you could test coolers/ice chests to see which works best at ice retention, durability and overall weight. Keep up the great work!
@kurtb3606
@kurtb3606 Жыл бұрын
I second this request!
@ShepherdsSheepdog
@ShepherdsSheepdog Жыл бұрын
3rd!
@Akc64
@Akc64 Жыл бұрын
Guys, what's about fridge on 18v platform like Makita, DeWalt or others?)
@uria711
@uria711 Жыл бұрын
YYYEEEESSSSSSSS
@HamHomestead
@HamHomestead Жыл бұрын
YES!
@trepanier01
@trepanier01 Жыл бұрын
A great test would be between inverters for vehicles from cheap to expensive
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion.
@trepanier01
@trepanier01 Жыл бұрын
@@ProjectFarm no problem I hope you have a great day
@Carl2k7
@Carl2k7 Жыл бұрын
Great suggestion!
@philliphall5198
@philliphall5198 5 ай бұрын
I agree we need help on what to buy
@pokermongoes1447
@pokermongoes1447 7 ай бұрын
I have switched from Honda to Westinghouse because when I go boat camping it will run all night on a single fill up. The Honda always ran out of gas about 5:00 am. I would sure like to see Westinghouse included in the testing. The good news is when I advertised the Honda for sale, I had 20 people all wanting to buy it within a few minutes of posting it. I love the various ways you find to measure things.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 7 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@richardwang474
@richardwang474 7 күн бұрын
Ive been telling everyone i know about your videos. I swear you have to be a genius to come up with these test parameters.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 7 күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing the channel!
@paulh6096
@paulh6096 Жыл бұрын
Very thorough testing! One additional note is that the Honda generator will most likely retain a significant part of their value if resold. I own one and with the low hours I have can resell it for just a little less than the purchase price. They are great machines.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Thanks for the feedback.
@stevennatt9707
@stevennatt9707 11 ай бұрын
@@happydogg312 "you never know..." In this case, you might discover you need 3500 watts... or whatever.
@bradbarton2930
@bradbarton2930 Жыл бұрын
Love this channel! You've saved me from making some bad purchase decisions over the last couple of years. Also, as a vibration analyst, it's nice to see that you're testing and reporting on vibration levels on many types of equipment. Just a suggestion, but consider integrating the overall acceleration levels to overall RMS velocity. It's a better gauge of human-sensed vibration because velocity is not dependent on frequency. Acceleration measurements are amplified in the high frequency range, but velocity doesn't suffer from this limitation. It's a better model for human perception of vibration levels. Keep up the amazing work!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Жыл бұрын
Thanks, will do! Glad to hear!
@thanatoskatakrima5864
@thanatoskatakrima5864 Жыл бұрын
As a vibration analysis you must have a vibrator up your @ss all the time 😂😂😂😂
@adamkalon7584
@adamkalon7584 2 ай бұрын
Wow, I’m surprised how someone can make such a high quality video comparison of power generators. Well done, sir! 91D
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 2 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@gregbowl2426
@gregbowl2426 3 ай бұрын
Outstanding work! All the facts, no fluff, fast pace, measured aspects I wouldn't have thought of!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 3 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@user-ky6ts8cc8m
@user-ky6ts8cc8m Жыл бұрын
I’m a generac dealer and would love to see a comparison on home standby units! Generac, kohler, Cummins and brigs and Stratton! That would be incredibly awesome!!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion.
@thetazva
@thetazva Жыл бұрын
that would be incredibly expensive.
@JohnDoe-gm5ux
@JohnDoe-gm5ux Жыл бұрын
You saw it. Generac is Chinese just like the off brands
@Oblithian
@Oblithian Жыл бұрын
@@thetazva I guess we need to buy a bunch of stuff and donate a bunch of money.
@rickmurillo6857
@rickmurillo6857 Жыл бұрын
I second that
@DeeDubious
@DeeDubious Жыл бұрын
I wish we would see more of a variety of generators especially with the main popular brands like FIRMAN, Westinghouse and DuroMax
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Жыл бұрын
I'll do it if there's enough interest in this video. I'm finding myself breaking the budget every month. lol
@oneboyscout3653
@oneboyscout3653 Жыл бұрын
Pls do more on the cheaper gens we can afford better
@Extra_Ordinary_Gary
@Extra_Ordinary_Gary Жыл бұрын
I'm currently shopping for a generator so I stopped here a few months back to see if there were tests. Those costco firmans and Cabela's champions are tempting
@indycharlie
@indycharlie Жыл бұрын
Most people seem to really like the Champion brand , also ...
@trizyman
@trizyman Жыл бұрын
DuroMax XP12000EH please
@joeg2181
@joeg2181 9 ай бұрын
I love your videos! You do an amazing job. I try to check for your comparisons prior to any tool purchase to get an unbiased realistic evaluation. I’m sure you’ve saved me money and hassle over the years. In any case, I’m sorry in advance if I missed a similar comment.. but I’m curious how the Honda compares to the Firman generators sold at Costco. Would love to see a showdown between them. Keep up the great work! And thanks again.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 9 ай бұрын
Thanks and you are welcome! Thanks for the suggestion.
@mech2223
@mech2223 4 ай бұрын
I rarely (if ever) comment on youtube. I recommend your videos to most of my colleagues (engineers in various roles). I love your work and love your data that you present. My one question is do you have a website or such where you post your projects and results? something where you can look between the different result infographics. For now, I will keep pausing the videos, it would just be nice when going back and forth between charts.
@jonathansherwood5841
@jonathansherwood5841 Жыл бұрын
Again, Honda proves they know what they are doing with these small engines! Well done! Would like to see Yamaha and Champion in the mix for the next episode of Generators. For some others; Westinghouse, DuroMax, Ryobi, WEN, Craftsman, and Firman. These are some of the brands I can think of that are at Home Depot, Lowes, and Tractor Supply. Another good video, Todd! See you next time! 🐺🔧
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Thanks for the video idea.
@Jimster481
@Jimster481 Жыл бұрын
I agree here, Champion and Yamaha are 2 other big ones along with Ryobi.
@volvo09
@volvo09 Жыл бұрын
You can see how clean the oil was when it came out of the Honda too. The other generators had much darker oil.
@Jimster481
@Jimster481 Жыл бұрын
@@volvo09 yea, that's not surprising between those two brands.
@syberspy9
@syberspy9 Жыл бұрын
The champion is junk. I was really hoping the Firman would be tested, by the paper it seems to be the best value option. I imagine the generac would also be good. Yamaha is great, just as good as the Honda. Has more weight due to piston design then the Honda though
@marklewus5468
@marklewus5468 Жыл бұрын
I really appreciate the testing you do. For 40+ years I have purchased mostly Honda power equipment, including generators, lawnmowers, & snowblowers. The stuff lasts forever and has never failed me. Yes, Honda costs *significantly* more but it’s one of those “you get what you pay for” things.
@Garth2011
@Garth2011 Жыл бұрын
Yes and when you need it to start and function in emergency times, Honda is the way to go.
@scowell
@scowell Жыл бұрын
Buy once, cry once.
@om617yota8
@om617yota8 Жыл бұрын
100%. Gave up cheaping out on tools a long time ago. Buy the best I can afford and have never regretted that.
@travisjazzbo3490
@travisjazzbo3490 Жыл бұрын
Yep... That's why I stick with Makita tools. They aren't big on HYPE, but are always up there in performance and always last forever
@Garth2011
@Garth2011 Жыл бұрын
@@scowell So true...not as easy as it used to be with less options these days. Everything is Chinesium, Mexican, Indian etc. and nothing easy to find from the USA. I blame the warehouses for much of this.
@user-ot3mk9ht8b
@user-ot3mk9ht8b 10 ай бұрын
I tell you before I buy anything I watch this guy test and determine which one is better . So thank you you are a real money saver and headache saver!!! U should take a look at Power-Bank-Solar-Charger … like for charging cell phones they are very handy on jobs where there’s no power. And frankly, you’re the only one I would trust to be 100% objective. .. just a idea
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 10 ай бұрын
You are welcome!
@orowock1
@orowock1 5 ай бұрын
excellent review. One thing not mentioned, availability of replacement parts in the event of accidental damage or worn out parts from heavy usage.Everything on the Honda is readily available.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 5 ай бұрын
Thanks! Thanks for the constructive feedback.
@mongo5888
@mongo5888 Жыл бұрын
Brother, you truly are doing something great out here for so many people. Just look at the comments as proof of that. There are so many of us out here trying desperately to make things work and balance everything, and saving up to buy something only to get it home and find out it's junk is a huge blow and can really set folks back. You truly help people man, no joke. Its been awesome watching the channel grow and evolve, and I hope you do this for a long time to come. Keep up the awesome work brother man. 🤘🇺🇸
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Жыл бұрын
Thanks, will do!
@supperflydaddycar
@supperflydaddycar Жыл бұрын
We also need the rundown on pressure washer hoses! Flow rate, abrasion resistance, flexibility, temperature compliance, burst pressure etc. (Great work as always btw)!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion.
@toyyoda3710
@toyyoda3710 Жыл бұрын
I like that clear pressure washer hose from Tractor Supply ... Seems pretty tough after several years use and best of all... Does not leave all those black marks all over anything not black like cool decking and concrete.
@TheButlerNZ
@TheButlerNZ Жыл бұрын
Been in the Water Blaster industry for a few years... Flow rate is negligible in a hose... the important things is that the ends have not been over crimped (and even then that often doesn't affect output flow/pressure, but will increase pressure of the hose at low pressures (like when using a large "soaper" nozzle to use the detergent venturi (often built in with a cheap machine. The venturi requires a high pressure on the pump side and a lower pressure on the output side (to create a vacuum on the output side that sucks the detergent in through a non return valve at the end of the plastic pickup hose... restrictions in the hose can act like a nozzle which can increase the pressure in the hose enough that the venturi ends up with the same pressure on either side.. so no vacuum, no soap. (This is why you have to use the "black" nozzle on QC nozzle units to get soap... and thin hose (usually 1/4" (measured in ID not OD) hose) does effect the low pressure)... 3/8th (industrial standard) can run up to about 30m long before pushing all that water through ends up leveling out that pressure either side of the venturi again... I personally hate venturi's. Spray and walk away.. then pressure wash later!)
@toyyoda3710
@toyyoda3710 Жыл бұрын
@@TheButlerNZ I decided years ago that if i want to add soap or bleach it is better to do it with a 60 dollar garden tank sprayer that can spray it right where i want than my 3000 dollar pressure washer set up
@krisholt8390
@krisholt8390 5 ай бұрын
Excellent review as always. A couple observations of the oil analysis. First, with the oil change likely being the first with any significant hours on the unit it would be expected to see slightly higher wear metals during the break-in time period. Second, the amount of silicon (dirt) could be a concern and worth taking a closer look at the air filter element and how the filter housing seals. The less dirt the engine ingests will help keep wear metals low.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 5 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@Propsman416
@Propsman416 10 ай бұрын
I bought a Honda 2000i almost 20 years ago for use at my cabin. It wasn't cheap, but I thought "buy once, cry once". It has many hundreds of hours on it and aside from regular servicing every couple of years and oil changes every 100 hours when I remember, a replacement of the stepper (throttle) motor is all I've had to do to it. That generator helped me renovate the cabin while quietly powering everything short of my welder. It doesn't owe me anything and I still smile a little bit each time I start it up. Maybe the best money I ever spent, especially as it was a huge investment for me at the time.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing.
@Brian-wc6yw
@Brian-wc6yw Жыл бұрын
Would love to see a "solar generator" showdown. Anker v. Bluetti v. Jackery etc. Especially side by side with some of this data
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video idea!
@Tommyr
@Tommyr Жыл бұрын
Jackery don't even compare to the others, 500 charge cycles compared to 2,000 for the others. And Bluetti has nearly no customer service based on all the reports.
@hdz12ez
@hdz12ez Жыл бұрын
Add Goal Zero in there too. They're a major competitor.
@SomeGuysGarage
@SomeGuysGarage Жыл бұрын
Would like to see this too!
@MarkTrades__
@MarkTrades__ Жыл бұрын
@@ProjectFarm I second this video idea. I like having a battery backup since the entire thing is self-contained. No gas, oil etc. Nice to top it off occasionally and leave in a closet.
@francislutz8027
@francislutz8027 11 ай бұрын
We've had our Predator generator for 5 years of commercial work Being used for hundreds of hours and the only problem we've ever had was the bolt backed itself out that holds the bracket for the plastic "on, choke, off" knob. It's unbelievable actually
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing.
@kennethrhodes7143
@kennethrhodes7143 4 ай бұрын
Although China may be getting better at COPYING, Nothing compares with HONDA!
@manishgrg639
@manishgrg639 4 ай бұрын
Ok fanboy now get back to your well@@kennethrhodes7143
@Bryan-Hensley
@Bryan-Hensley 3 ай бұрын
Predator is better than a Honda. We use both almost every weekend.​@@kennethrhodes7143
@coolcosmic
@coolcosmic 3 ай бұрын
@@kennethrhodes7143dipshit: HONDA IS STILL AN ASIAN MAKE 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@nzs316
@nzs316 Ай бұрын
We need to appreciate that an engine needs to be broken in and generator needs to be loaded incrementally to properly seat all the contact points. Great video as always.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Ай бұрын
Thanks!
@AshtonCoolman
@AshtonCoolman 10 ай бұрын
I've read that a break in period is useful for these generators. Depending on the generato, running it with conventional oil from anywhere from 2 to 20 hours, then an oil change to full synthetic can extend its life. This break-in period is different for each generator and may be in the documentation that comes with it or available online. The cheap Genmax is probably a generator that would benefit from a change of oil after a few hours or runtime.
@c.m.303
@c.m.303 9 ай бұрын
That would be a very interesting test!!!
@866martin
@866martin 8 ай бұрын
good point
@SameerSiam-ss2tr
@SameerSiam-ss2tr 5 ай бұрын
كم سعره 2000واط
@rickr9055
@rickr9055 4 ай бұрын
I just ordered the Genmax 4k and plan on changing the oil at 20 minutes and then at 5 hours or so.
@TheCrankshaftRotator
@TheCrankshaftRotator Жыл бұрын
This guy just never disappoints me.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@marklacombe2671
@marklacombe2671 Жыл бұрын
900+ hours on a Predator 3500 inverter generator and still running like a top. Been used a lot and the there are some tricks I've learned to get it this far. 1. Most important there is a air vent tube right at the top of the fuel tank. Make sure to not fill fuel above that intake or it will drain into the charcoal filter and stall out. 2. Make sure to add a vent to fuel cap or back off when tightened a half turn while in use. So it does not create a vacuum and starve the engine for fuel. 3. Change oil every 40 hours with a top off at 20-30 hours. Use good oil. 4. Change the spark plug to a high quality one. In all honesty 1 and 2 will be your most common issues. Hopefully this helps someone out there.
@bobmunz7877
@bobmunz7877 Жыл бұрын
I got the same one with 2000 + hours , bigest isue i had is ajusting the exost valve about every 1000 hr or so , other than runs great .
@marklacombe2671
@marklacombe2671 Жыл бұрын
@bobmunz7877 no doubt it'll make it that far. Haven't seen any people on KZbin with more than 150 hours. Cheers bud.
@bishbosh7728
@bishbosh7728 Жыл бұрын
I ran a Honda 2000 for 6 hours a night every night for 12 years and it was used on several jobs running saws and cement mixers. I only had to change the inverter once at the 8 year mark and got a replacement for 200 bucks.
@StevenSmith-7t391
@StevenSmith-7t391 Жыл бұрын
My Predator 3500 has almost 600 hours on it and runs like a top. I put a remote start kit on it which was a great investment. I’d like to see it compared to some of the other brands of generators.
@joshbrobud8358
@joshbrobud8358 Жыл бұрын
I also have a 5 year old Predator (Harbor Freight). During a hurricane it ran 2 weeks straight. It regularly gets used and is one of the best buys I ever made.
@user-ky2to4gv7n
@user-ky2to4gv7n 9 ай бұрын
Impressive comparison and testing. I really appreciated the sine wave and vibration measurements. Would be interested in seeing the Wen, Pulsar and Champion brand small (2000-2350 watt) inverter generators adding to the testing in the future. Thanks again.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 9 ай бұрын
Thanks! Thanks for the suggestion.
@jonstewart7317
@jonstewart7317 7 күн бұрын
Thanks! Friend for doing a very professional job on everything that you test 🙏
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 7 күн бұрын
Thanks! Thanks for supporting the channel! I really appreciate it!
@belectronberg8677
@belectronberg8677 Жыл бұрын
Great video as always. I know it would be expensive, but I would love to see more brands tested like Champion, Wen, Westinghouse, Generac, etc. Also would be awesome to see how dual fuel generators running propane compare to gas only generators.
@HAL-dm1eh
@HAL-dm1eh Жыл бұрын
Would be interesting, as propane is really the best since propane is cleaner burning and stores forever, unlike gas and diesel.
@iamgriff
@iamgriff Жыл бұрын
I am also curious to know if and what the benefits are of propane powered generators, versus gasoline.
@narref04
@narref04 Жыл бұрын
I saw a test where a generator was ran on propane and checked. Then on gas and checked. The ammount of oil gunk and wear on the engine was drastically worst running gasoline
@sethhovey8227
@sethhovey8227 Жыл бұрын
I would be very curious as to how the Westinghouse performs.
@fidelcatsro6948
@fidelcatsro6948 Жыл бұрын
thanks for the channel contribution🐱👍🏿
@misterbalsa9676
@misterbalsa9676 11 ай бұрын
I have two eu2000i's pushing about 800 hours each, used pretty much weekly. Following the book maintenance schedule, both still run like new and use no oil between changes. Great machines! It's worth pointing out that the Honda should be expected to have a more pull start effort required, as well as use a bit more fuel, as it's a significantly larger engine than the other two. Thanks for the tests!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 11 ай бұрын
You are welcome! Thanks for sharing.
@Cesarz28
@Cesarz28 8 ай бұрын
GE-3300A
@Honestandtruth
@Honestandtruth 8 ай бұрын
​@@ProjectFarmI Love to See Comparison of Champion inverter generator and Westinghouse inverter and Honda inverter generator 👍 Enjoy your videos
@THX..1138
@THX..1138 7 ай бұрын
Yeah MY EU2000i has over 10,000 hours and still runs like new....Also the Honda probably only uses more fuel till it breaks in which takes several hundred hours. The Honda clones probably all have pretty loose tolerances so start off with a lot less internal friction...At the cost of many of them not lasting as long as the Honda's break in period.
@williamvaughan1218
@williamvaughan1218 6 ай бұрын
I have 2 that have at least 4000 hours on them still going great.
@cj7fun579
@cj7fun579 7 ай бұрын
Great test and great review. Keep the great testing videos coming, they are very accurate and I don't think you could get it any closer, this is very helpful for people deciding which way to go. 👍
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 7 ай бұрын
Thanks and you are welcome!
@frankrivas9405
@frankrivas9405 11 ай бұрын
I love your channel and how well you have produced these videos. On this video and the power drop and recovery, I would make a statement that generators should be run at more than 75% load to minimize the power drop and to allow for intermittent power draws such as from tefridgetato compressors. E cellent job though.
@jamesstuart3346
@jamesstuart3346 Жыл бұрын
Outstanding test as usual. Unlike the competition, Honda has actual stores with trained technicians and genuine Honda parts. That's worth a lot
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Thanks for the feedback.
@markcarr5142
@markcarr5142 11 ай бұрын
A-iPower SU 2300. Bought one after the big freeze here in Texas. Just had 4 days without power after a freak wind storm in Spring TX. I ran my house fridge, my garage fridge and deep freezer on that one generator for 4 days straight, no breaks, filling it up when it needed gas. I didn't lose 2k in frozen meats or meals, line a lot of my neighbors did. I just did a service to it today at work, and again, it just started right up. I bought it at Sam's club for$329, and it's the best money I've spent.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing.
@daytonasayswhat9333
@daytonasayswhat9333 4 ай бұрын
$2k is frozen meat? Are you at 1890s fur trapper or preparing for the zombie apocalypse?
@WhatRBThinks
@WhatRBThinks 2 ай бұрын
Another great review! Would LOVE to see one on battery/solar "power stations", as I'd like to buy one for my CPAP and other in-house only use devices. So many out there now, but INCREDIBLY EXPENSIVE. I'm quite sure that some are WAY better than others, but don't have the ability to test them myself......
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 2 ай бұрын
Thanks! Thanks for the suggestion.
@jchap2953
@jchap2953 Ай бұрын
This was a ridiculously good and informative video. I hear a lot of good things about the champion generators specially for the price. Do you have any plans of doing a video of one of their generators in the future?
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Ай бұрын
Thanks! Thanks for the suggestion.
@4-LOW
@4-LOW Жыл бұрын
I bought my Predator 3500 a few years ago and I've used it for everything from camping to running power tools out in the woods to running our entire house during power failures. I've been extremely happy with it. Zero issues so far. Not bad for $700 bucks. I've had other guys comment on how quiet it is.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback.
@dangda-ww7de
@dangda-ww7de Жыл бұрын
I also got a 3500 after looking at the sparkplug im putting it up for sale right now.
@dangda-ww7de
@dangda-ww7de Жыл бұрын
Just sold it.
@PatrickWagz
@PatrickWagz 11 ай бұрын
@@dangda-ww7de How much did you get for it?
@brubacher99
@brubacher99 11 ай бұрын
I bought 1 for $60 at an auction. Works good so far
@papaya4432
@papaya4432 Жыл бұрын
Would love to see a video comparing the battery power stations (Anker, ECOFLOW, Bluetti etc.). I’ve been considering getting one but it’s hard to tell the difference as most videos featuring them are sponsored. Would be expensive but well worth the information.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Жыл бұрын
Great suggestion! Thank you
@proscriptus
@proscriptus Жыл бұрын
I don't have a channel, but I've been testing power stations at home. I've got six of them from Anker, Bluetti, EcoFlow, Goal Zero, and Jackery. The Jackery Explorer 1500 was the first one I got, and I really like it, it's very well thought out and easy to use, but it's a traditional lithium battery. All the others are LiFePo. The small Anker 521 is the one I end up grabbing most often, it's extremely easy to use and very well put together. Both EcoFlows are good, I have the 3.6kW Delta Pro and 1000W Delta 2. The fast charging options on those are their party trick, and they have ridiculous numbers of outlet ports on them. I like the Bluetti and Goal Zero least. They're both packaged well, but fall down on ease of use
@DogSpeak
@DogSpeak Жыл бұрын
@@ProjectFarm Would love to see a comparison of some of these more pricey ones to some cheaper ones. It can be very expensive and many people dont realize the panels are sold separate, but I've found some combinations with the panels and generator for under 300.
@Jeremiahs_Legos
@Jeremiahs_Legos Жыл бұрын
Yes, we would love to see a comparison between the battery powered stations. Especially the Bluetti.
@EclecticBuddha
@EclecticBuddha Жыл бұрын
I kinda short changed the Projects With Everyday Dave channel. He's not as technical as Will Prowse but he does a good job of making practical use and review videos.
@D199676
@D199676 11 ай бұрын
I was without power for 3 days due to a storm that blew throughout the Houston area and I pulled out my Honda ru2000. I haven't started it in nearly a year and after 3 pulls it started and ran for 3 days straight powering my home appliances, shop fans, tv, and dvd player along with cell phones and I didn't have to breakout my big generator. I've had my Honda going on 10 yrs and the most reliable generator that I have owned.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing.
@oklahomasupercell
@oklahomasupercell 7 ай бұрын
You did such a great job on these ! Just the right speed in delivering the info. Very understandable. Thank you much.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 7 ай бұрын
Thanks and yo are welcome!
@randysavage8963
@randysavage8963 Жыл бұрын
I was literally just watching other reviews about these hoping you would do a comparison! Thanks so much Todd for once again making my Sunday better .
@gamebredduramax71
@gamebredduramax71 Жыл бұрын
Go Honda
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Жыл бұрын
Legendary name like Randy Savage. Love it!! Also, thank you for the positive feedback!
@randysavage8963
@randysavage8963 Жыл бұрын
@@ProjectFarm Your welcome ! We are very fortunate to have such a non bias channel for product testing
@jharlow84
@jharlow84 Жыл бұрын
I love your channel and the way you test everything on such a level/unbiased field. I've been waiting for a long time for you to test generators so I was excited to watch this video. My only request would be for another generator comparison using larger generators. I'm hoping for a comparison of generators that would be large enough to use with a RV.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Thanks for the suggestion.
@alm4132
@alm4132 4 ай бұрын
Just get a second Honda and run them in parallel
@tdb0ne1
@tdb0ne1 8 ай бұрын
i usually watch computer hardware testing by popular sites, same thing for impact wrenches where they test multiple tools and multiple ways. the many tests you did with several generators was outstanding. just commented to say that. awesome testing.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 8 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@seanrich1367
@seanrich1367 Ай бұрын
Happy to find this review. You do an Impressive job! Purchased the Honda, I like it. Thanks.
@GibsoLesPaulStandard
@GibsoLesPaulStandard Жыл бұрын
Something worth mentioning. Every 3 decibels, the noise doubles. So going from 59 dB to 62 dB is 100% more noise energy. A 3 dB is substantial
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback.
@texasfrontiersman8245
@texasfrontiersman8245 10 ай бұрын
3db is a small but noticeable difference. Takes 10db to double volume
@thunderusnight
@thunderusnight 10 ай бұрын
​​@@texasfrontiersman8245dB is measured on a logarithmic scale so 3dB more is twice the impact on hearing or essentially twice as loud. 10 dB represents a tenfold increase, for example 20dB is not twice as loud as 10dB, but rather 10 times as loud.
@briankissel7661
@briankissel7661 9 ай бұрын
@@thunderusnighttexes frontier man is right. From a physics standpoint you’re right. You see humans hear in reversed logarithmic fashion and it’s not the same at all frequencies. Look it up, it very interesting. MAF curve is particularly strange.
@thunderusnight
@thunderusnight 9 ай бұрын
@@briankissel7661 that's pretty interesting
@ChristianBehnke
@ChristianBehnke Жыл бұрын
I bought a Honda EU2200i a few years ago and it's never let me down - I'm confident the higher cost was worthwhile, but it would be great to see how these units stand up over the test of time, like into the 1000hr+ range. It's not exactly an environmentally friendly test, but it's the only way to get those kinds of results. Thanks, as always, for the great content Todd!
@denisohbrien
@denisohbrien Жыл бұрын
TBO its not necesary, show any mechanic those sparkplug pictures from this video. If they came from a car: 1 engine will do 200+K miles even with modest servicing. 1 engine will do 100k, but will need serviced every 6k on the nose. and 1 of those engines wont make it from one service to the next without an oil top up and fresh plugs. I dont need a generator, but seems clean cut to me ifi did, buy the honda, or buy the cheapest non inverter thing I could find and put up with it, and treat it as disposable.
@om617yota7
@om617yota7 Жыл бұрын
Check any tool rental shop, and see what small generator they rent out. That's a business model that is based on getting the maximum return on investment from a tool purchase, and it's all but guaranteed to be a Honda. These small generator reviews always ask "Is it as good as a Honda?" If you get a Honda, you don't have to ask.
@lukewalker3905
@lukewalker3905 Жыл бұрын
@@om617yota7 Exactly, there is a reason all of our tool rental shops here in Australia all have Honda 2200 and 7KVA versions in the fleet, clearly they just last the abuse and test of time otherwise they would be using the cheaper ones.
@greasemonkeymechanic1
@greasemonkeymechanic1 Жыл бұрын
@@denisohbrien he got a bad one and should swap it, i have two predators and neither use oil like his did. i have over 500 hours on one and over 300 on the other and i have never had to add oil between 100 hr intervals. that being said obviously the honda is a better build quality and will last longer, but by how much is the real question.
@gregorywagner9416
@gregorywagner9416 Жыл бұрын
For the price of that Honda you could have bought 4 genmax generators... you have four times the power and four times the life
@anthonyher1953
@anthonyher1953 11 ай бұрын
Great video. I would also like to see other brands tested to see how they stack up against eachother. Powerhorse, Duromax, Champion, Westinghouse, there are so many brands it’s hard to pick one.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 11 ай бұрын
Thanks! Thanks for the suggestion.
@jensholm5759
@jensholm5759 6 ай бұрын
I my summerhouse area we all has to install in anti-sound boxes and have solid concrite under them. They get fresch oir and im sure they all are under some 20 GB. Its decided and a must buing or renting when You sign in.
@Bandicoot803
@Bandicoot803 Жыл бұрын
In case you're havig a hard time yanking the engine to sufficient starting speed, here's a useful tip: Pull the rope until the latching mechanism engages. then gently pull again to slowly turn the engine. At a certain point you'll encounter the first of three resistance points. Rearm the rope as mentionned above. Again gently pull the engine until you pass the third resistance. Again rearm, but this time yank the rope. In most cases you easily get a decent starting speed for the engine to ramp up to operational RPM on its own. The anatomy behind: As you pass the ignition stroke ( Piston BDC ), you now have the exhaust and intake valve opening sequentionally in one RPM, allowing the engine to "freewheel" through stroke 4 and 1. I came through this handy tip by pure chance and would like to share it to all out there.
@tracythorn2918
@tracythorn2918 11 ай бұрын
My 15 year old Honda 2000i is still going strong and does not burn oil. It does not have an hour meter so I'm estimating around 800 hours minimum. You did an excellent comparison here!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 11 ай бұрын
Thanks so much! Thanks for sharing.
@PolPotsPieHole
@PolPotsPieHole 11 ай бұрын
just cant beat a Honda, when we get new equipment at work I get excited when it has a Honda, lol
@hxhdfjifzirstc894
@hxhdfjifzirstc894 9 ай бұрын
The 2000i actually DOES have an hour meter. It tells you, in code, by flashing lights when you first start it (on the panel). Count the number of flashes, and that's how many hundred hours it has run. This is a little known trick that can help you find a smoking deal on a used 2000i with low hours. Also, learn which model numbers are made in Japan (another thing the average person doesn't know how to find) I got one with 200 hours for $400.
@mickgatz214
@mickgatz214 4 ай бұрын
I tend to attach an hour meter to all my appliances. ;)
@anthonynicholich9654
@anthonynicholich9654 4 ай бұрын
​@@PolPotsPieHole Don't forget Yamaha. Also made in Japan and in some cases better than Honda.
@billyf.4078
@billyf.4078 7 ай бұрын
You always do such a great job with your tool reviews. I would like to see one on larger inverter generators that have Running wattage range between 7000 to 8000 Watts. There are just so many to choose from and would like an unbiased review on Brands such as Honda, Champion, Pulsar, Predator, AiVolt and GenMax.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 7 ай бұрын
Thanks! Thanks for the suggestion.
@richardcich2018
@richardcich2018 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for all that you do with comparisons....several of your other videos helped me make what I would call good decisions in purchase and or operation.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 3 ай бұрын
You are welcome! Glad to hear!
@johnnymerchant
@johnnymerchant Жыл бұрын
Very interesting! The comparison of the waveforms was really surprising. I had no idea the electricity from inverter generators was so much cleaner than from conventional. Definitely gives me pause hooking up electronics while the breakers are on generator power.
@davef.2329
@davef.2329 Жыл бұрын
And EVERYTHING has sensitive electronics in it, nowadays.
@summervillesean
@summervillesean Жыл бұрын
You see this a lot on cheaper UPS battery backups. Usually it’s ok for electronics that convert the power to DC since the conversion process also smooths out the irregularities. Some devices with active power factor correction will freak out with the non-smooth voltage, though.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@mikek1187
@mikek1187 Жыл бұрын
When powering digital electronics, you'll want "pure sine wave" inverters instead of "modified sine wave". They cost more but are well worth the investment!
@Watchyn_Yarwood
@Watchyn_Yarwood Жыл бұрын
Definitely an eye opener!
@johnsparks007
@johnsparks007 Жыл бұрын
The lawn mower - the engine to haul things is brilliant😂
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Жыл бұрын
Thank you!! I used to destroy about 1 engine mower every couple of weeks and had plenty of mower decks on hand. Thanks again!
@DazednConfused0
@DazednConfused0 6 ай бұрын
Didn't watch whole video, but a comparison I find useful when comparing generators (especially vs hondas) is testing how the electronics hold up when the generator quits/stops/runs out of fuel while under load. When camping I frequently measure out fuel for the time I want to run my genrator. I then simply let it run dry instead of having to time it. In my experience cheaper generators have had issues with doing this some permanent. It would be interesting to see this done in testing. Great video thanks for the info.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 6 ай бұрын
Thanks and you are welcome!
@rijoro
@rijoro 7 ай бұрын
Best comparison review I’ve ever seen! Incredibly thorough and interesting.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 7 ай бұрын
Thanks so much!
@albertmijaresjr
@albertmijaresjr Жыл бұрын
Great video, as always. I have a recommendation; Compound-action snips AKA aviation snips. I’ve noticed a big difference between the amount of force needed to cut with different brands as well as durability of the blades.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video idea!
@rverro8478
@rverro8478 Жыл бұрын
I've been using aviation snips for over 25 years. So far, WISS brand was on my top list but, lately, I've noticed that another company took over and kept the WISS logo. What I mean is, I see a pair of WISS in a BENCHMARK package. They are not so good anymore so, I'm giving TASK a test. So far, not a problem but, they're barely 3 weeks old.
@rverro8478
@rverro8478 Жыл бұрын
@@Evil_Joe My huge pair is a Malco. Damn thing is around 40 years old. I only had to sharpen the blades once. I just can't find the small ones in Canada. Just those generic ones, you find in hardware stores.
@andrewking393
@andrewking393 Жыл бұрын
@@rverro8478yea the new crescent wiss snips are garbage. great idea for project farm I’m looking forward to the video!
@Rentta
@Rentta Жыл бұрын
In my experience using them in work for 20 odd years nothing for me has beaten Midwest ones.
@Pierre-Peter-G
@Pierre-Peter-G Жыл бұрын
Hi Todd, Great video! If you ever decide to do a 2nd round, you might want to throw in a Champion and a Firman. Both of these machines seem to dominate the big box offerings here in Canada (Costco, Lowes, etc.). Dual and tri fuel options are also popular offerings.
@CF542
@CF542 Жыл бұрын
Good points, have a dual fuel option being tested would be useful as well
@FISHFANATIC95
@FISHFANATIC95 Жыл бұрын
My recommendation exactly!
@CByers-lh3zq
@CByers-lh3zq Жыл бұрын
agree too- Champion is all I could find for dual-fuel at my local farm supply shop
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Thanks for the video idea.
@mendonesiac
@mendonesiac Жыл бұрын
Generac is also common here in the states
@TheDwightMamba
@TheDwightMamba 8 ай бұрын
I got a few 2200 watt Generacs [branded Colemans] for $300 each. Changed the oil every 50-100 hours and cleaned the spark arrester every time. Zero issues. Both are still starting up on the 1st pull after 3 years.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 8 ай бұрын
Nice!
@skipman4735
@skipman4735 11 ай бұрын
I have a predator 2000 with close to 1000 hours. I recommend putting an hour meter on for changing the oil. Using full synthetic oil. Have never had to add oil between 100 hour changes. Change the oil after a couple of hours when new. There's alot of metal left in them when manufactured.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for the feedback.
@centurionhomeinspectionsin2253
@centurionhomeinspectionsin2253 Жыл бұрын
119.5Vac is absolutely fine, and higher than a lot of houses I see. 110Vac-125Vac is the norm depending on where you are.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Жыл бұрын
Great point. Thank you
@alazynoob7655
@alazynoob7655 Жыл бұрын
Damn 110 from the Util? Talk about an undervolt. I do not want to see what's at the last receptacle.
@tallswede80
@tallswede80 Жыл бұрын
my house has 128 volts at the panel. Double pole breaker reads on my fluke at 257
@McTroyd
@McTroyd Жыл бұрын
Not really video related but I noticed you're approaching 3 _million_ subscribers!! That's awesome. You'll be in the stratosphere with Linus and Furze before long, having earned every bit of it. As for the video, I liked how you pulled the Tailgator and the Predator 4K in as a comparison data point, especially for the quality of the power. Good stuff, and it matters a lot to an electronics nerd like me. 👍
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@nbooky
@nbooky 4 ай бұрын
Covered so much in less than 15 min. Simply brilliant.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 4 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@Freedom17762
@Freedom17762 8 ай бұрын
I would like to see a champion dual fuel comparison. Maybe see how they compare running on propane vs gas. Love the channel, thanks for all you do for us consumers.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 8 ай бұрын
You are welcome! Thanks for the suggestion.
@codyrichter8168
@codyrichter8168 Жыл бұрын
Great video. I personally use the Honda 2200 to power my ice house. The oscilloscope comparison is great. When running a fish finder my friends experience interference with their predator generators in some cases.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Thanks for sharing.
@skitzvitz
@skitzvitz Жыл бұрын
Your perseverance in informing the average person is legendary! I've based many of purchasing decisions on your test results and everytime it's been bang on expectation. I love how I can say " there is a project farm video on that, you should watch it".
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@rossstutterheim881
@rossstutterheim881 4 ай бұрын
I'd love to see the Champion 2500w dual fuel compared eith the metrics used on all these other ones. Great job with this testing!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 4 ай бұрын
Thanks! Thanks for the suggestion.
@kriskafowlski4463
@kriskafowlski4463 10 ай бұрын
Another awesome video. Thanks. The Honda 2000 is amazing. I worked in communications and we had 15 that were used and abused for years and still ran strong. Very Impressive!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 10 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@99-Projects
@99-Projects Жыл бұрын
Given the metals in the oil analysis it would be interesting to see a longevity test to see if the Honda lasts longer than the other two.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion.
@hxhdfjifzirstc894
@hxhdfjifzirstc894 Жыл бұрын
I think it's safe to assume replacement parts will be more easily available.
@danielgreensides8463
@danielgreensides8463 Жыл бұрын
Yea me too I bet that's where the Honda truly shines.
@RichardMcKnight-tb4kk
@RichardMcKnight-tb4kk Жыл бұрын
I have a year 2005 Honda 2000 generator with 6800 hours on it with no issues other then cleaning and rebuilding a carburetor twice in 18 years of service
@gr8705
@gr8705 Жыл бұрын
My Predator 3500 powered my natural gas home furnace during the Texas Snowmageddon a few years ago for 12 hours (1 tank of gas) at -2 degrees. You can’t ask more from a generator than that!!
@JohnChuprun
@JohnChuprun Жыл бұрын
Seems that it costs a lot to get that bit of extra quietness and smoother running engine. It's amazing how much of a value the other brands are though. This was a perfect test to do, since they claim to compare so equally - but this shows there is a difference! Thanks again for another great video.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Жыл бұрын
You are welcome! Thanks for the feedback.
@hxhdfjifzirstc894
@hxhdfjifzirstc894 Жыл бұрын
If you rephrase the question into comparing a used Honda, to a new China brand, that's how you can get that smooth quiet engine at a low price. I did a lot of research and patiently waited until I found one for $400 at a pawn shop. If I was in a hurry, I could have paid a bit more ($600). From the research I did, a used Honda is likely to last longer than a new China thing, and parts are easily available, as well as videos here, showing how to repair them.
@rickreese5794
@rickreese5794 Жыл бұрын
@@hxhdfjifzirstc894 Gr8 post, thx, Smart😊
@rgh622
@rgh622 Жыл бұрын
Chinese junk vs Japanese ingenuity equals American entertainment. Go team Honda!
@enigmaticcruz2483
@enigmaticcruz2483 Жыл бұрын
Honda will still be running as quiet and smooth as the first day ten years from now. Genmax and the Predator would have been replaced at least three times by then.
@ele4853
@ele4853 3 ай бұрын
Great job! it would be great to see the comparison between the high power output generators like the Westinghouse 15kw and the likes.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 3 ай бұрын
Thanks! Thanks for the suggestion.
@tompepper4789
@tompepper4789 4 ай бұрын
Comprehensive! Exactly what I was looking for.Thx.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 4 ай бұрын
You are welcome!
@michaelmccarthy4615
@michaelmccarthy4615 Жыл бұрын
Checking my new Honda generator i noticed the air cleaner is actually a 2 stage course/fine filter. And the up draft multi size intake tubes are ingenious to have heavy debris drop out of air suspension. There seems to be many nuanced designed features that are difficult to quantify or test on higher end quality products. Things that are easy to take for granted but require lots of R&D to develop.
@nobodynoone2500
@nobodynoone2500 Жыл бұрын
Bingo. The reason for the cost difference is not just materials and production quality.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback.
@techwolflupindo
@techwolflupindo Жыл бұрын
Mine has over 3000 hours and still clean filters.
@schmitty69
@schmitty69 Жыл бұрын
Would be interesting to run these for a few days, set these on a shelf for a year, and do a follow up video! My biggest fear with generators is they run good when you buy them, but then when you need them in a year or two in an emergency, they are hard to start, wont start, etc.
@mongocrock
@mongocrock Жыл бұрын
That's why they need to be run regularly. Maintenance isn't exciting but it keeps things from being tragic.
@skibik3r
@skibik3r Жыл бұрын
ALWAYS drain the gas from the tank and especially the carburetor. That'll ensure you don't have the most common problems associated with bad gas. If you're storing for a long time, fogging oil really prevents most long term storage problems too.
@Hermod_Hermit
@Hermod_Hermit Жыл бұрын
Got 2 used Hondas, one EU10, one EU20. Both are a little grumpy after storage with fuel left in them (the type of fuel you can leave in the tank over winter) but both start with between 4-10 pulls despite perhaps not having run for 7-8 months.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video idea!
@oldmaninthemirror
@oldmaninthemirror Жыл бұрын
About once a month I run my gen for about 30 minutes under load just for this reason. I don’t want it to let me down when I may actually need it. I only have it as backup if house power goes down but of course now that I bought the generator house power never goes out 😂 so I guess in a way the gen is doing it’s job.
@davidstockeland8648
@davidstockeland8648 4 ай бұрын
This is the way I like a comparison to be done...with facts and information! Good job!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 4 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@jameskelly1680
@jameskelly1680 4 ай бұрын
Excellent video. Just so that you are aware, sound pressure level (SPL) is usually measured at 1 meter with the C weighting on the scale. That's probably where they get the published specifications (but I do not know this for sure). Really good job. I would be interested in seeing a long term durability test with engine wear, oil use, and what repairs needed to be done over time (and what spare parts are available from the manufacturer, long term). Some manufacturers don't have a lot of spare parts available, and when you need to do a major repair, you can't. You have to buy a new one.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 4 ай бұрын
Thanks!
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