Cheap Paint, Cheap Spray Gun, Nice Paint Job!

Just 'cause you're low on funds doesn't mean you can't have a nice car. A cheap spray gun and some cheap automotive paint is all you need for a really nice paint job. Really. Special Thanks to Rockrooster footwear :)
Tools and Materials:
Spray Gun: www.amazon.com...
Paint: tcpglobal.com/...
Extra Reducer: tcpglobal.com/...
Sealer: (You do not have to use sealer): myautovaluesto... - Not thinned or reduced
Moisture Filter/Water Trap: www.harborfrei...
Mix Ratio: 4 parts paint to 1 part hardener to 3 parts reducer - You can add more or less reducer depending on your preference, paint gun characteristics, temperature. etc. Paint to hardener ration always stays the same.
Pressure at the gun: 30-35
Compressor: Craftsman Model 106.173840 7.3 CFM @ 40 PSI
Work boots: rockroosterfoo...

[@MrClarkisgod]

The fact you only have 15k subs is criminal. You are very talented and skilled, and are a great teacher.

[@LakesideAutobody]

Thank you so much - I appreciate that. Hope you have a good weekend :)

[@bondpit8750]

5 months later and 8,000 more subscribers. Slow and steady gains. Great teaching style combined with quality content geared to what the DIYer can accomplish at home with basic tools and equipment.

[@stax6057]

one year later and it's up to 46k. that's awesome

[@LakesideAutobody]

@@stax6057 Thanks Stax - it has been moving right along - thanks for the support my friend :)

[@Chris-jz3te]

No wasted words. Easily my favorite place to learn auto body repair.I didn’t realize how difficult I was making bodywork until I watched this channel.This is strait to the point.

[@805ROADKING]

Well done Bud!! A good painter can use anything and make a car look good!!☺

[@LakesideAutobody]

Thanks 👍 Have a good weekend :)

[@davidstepeck2644]

You're giving me more and more confidence. This is my channel for autobody. I'm not going anywhere else. You are a very good teacher and you don't try to over complicate things.

[@LakesideAutobody]

That's great to hear. I've been MOCAC certified to teach auto body repair in vocational schools since 1989 (Ferris State University) so I think you made a good decision. I Never used it though - always needed to make ^$. I promise if you practice the methods found on this channel you will find success. Ask any question - doesn't matter what video - I'll get you the right answer - if I don't know it I'll say "I don't know." Let me know how you are progressing. Thank you for the support - Jerry

[@davidstepeck2644]

@@LakesideAutobody Thank you Jerry. I haven’t started yet as we just got the truck last weekend. However, when I start the body (after going through the mechanicals first) I’ll keep you in the loop.

[@freedom_aint_free]

You forgot to include "plus decades of experience" in the list !

[@davidmata6964]

Some people will probably throw shade on this video but I think it was not to bad for beginners to watch so we can see hand speed as well as you don’t kneed to do things perfect because you can always fix paint. Thumbs up.

[@LakesideAutobody]

Absolutely true. If you notice - a lot of videos where the paint turns out perfect is on flat surfaces. It's always harder to get the paint to lay completely flat on a vertical surface as you have to beware of runs. I never try to hide orange peel either because I want to show how the paint really behaves. This is as flat as this paint lays - It was as wet as you could get it w/o running it. Heck it's 150 bucks for the gallon kit - it's going to lay down like Dupont? Maybe reducing it a bit more would help but I already went much further than the can's mix ration

[@curtismuma1931]

Thank you for showing alternative options! And lower costs ideas. Paint is so expensive these days! In the early 80s . When I was a active body man . A gallon dupont centary Was 30 bucks, a gallon of reducer was 13 bucks.

[@bjr2379]

Don't forget the 2000 pack!

[@LakesideAutobody]

You're welcome. You're right on the money! I could paint a car back then (early 80's) for $600 bucks using Dupont Centari and make right around $400 (using my dads sand paper and stuff). That paint was great too. You could lay it on nice and wet, it hardly ever ran and would flow out real well. Go in the house - come out 15 minutes after the last coat and it looked 5 times better than when you left. Today $460 for a gallon of red metallic not inc. hardener and reducer - and that's Nason - can't imagine what PPG would want. Have a good week end.

[@curtismuma1931]

@@LakesideAutobody you are correct about no runs! That was part of my guarantee. Martin senior. Napa would run like a Banshee !

[@chadvalliere8697]

Nason (DuPont, well now Axalta) ful-thane single stage is reasonably inexpensive.

[@strattuner]

@@LakesideAutobody man, nason and that crap napa puts out the door is lame,paint is nothing but a hue anyway,color is a better word,if shooting single stage, multiple coats gets you the tone you want,and you can clear anything,i use whatever paint i can get for very little the paint job is in the prep,and mixing of the hue,thinner is better,multiple coats,then there's the drying times,when you get it super smooth no runs or orange peel,then clear it,paint compatibility is everything,its the most headaches i've had,bought a gallon of vitamin c for my nephews duster,508.00 a gallon,come on,that's highway robbery,if you mix a high performance color of yesteryear you will pay,ppg and r&M or sherwin williams grab your ass,we have reached the point of idiocy within the automotive world of bodywork,glad i'm retired

[@pmccready291]

So glad I found your site, I'm building my own project truck and $ is mighty slim these days. Using much of what you've shown in your videos in my build especially rust repairs/making replacement panels. I'm hooked!

[@LakesideAutobody]

Welcome, glad to hear you like the content. Have a great week :)

[@MrTheHillfolk]

Yeah man, I want a show quality paint job, but I've got a quality beer budget which is a little better than a standard beer budget ,but it's still not a champagne budget. I've got a friend that is in autobody, and he agreed to paint it eventually. I told him it's not like I'm asking for a deal, he's gotta eat, and he said it's probably still gonna be like 10k, and I know that's sorta cheap these days for something claimed to be show quality. The closer I can get the bodywork to decent, I figure the less he's going to hate me. The part that sucks is we are like 45mins from each other too. I'm definitely willing to help with more bodywork when I get the car over to him. I'm willing to put in work, just train me properly so I'm not wasting time doing things wrong.

[@unclemarksdiyauto]

In the hands of a expert, yes perfection can be achieved on a budget! Looks great, Jerry. YT just suggested this older video to me today.

[@LakesideAutobody]

That's funny. I sold this truck to a pastor in town. He's in love with it. It has right around 300,000 miles on it but sure runs smooth - the old 5.7L Chevy Vortec. Thanks for checking it out my friend.

[@DavidHarnadek]

Experience makes the difference. Great job Jerry and thanks again for the tips you give us in your videos.

[@LakesideAutobody]

Thanks 👍 I appreciate the support :)

[@hunkydude322]

there you go experience is key in any trade.

[@ninafalana7561]

It's definitely an art to this. I can tell you love and are good at what you do by the way you move with rhythm. Awesome! Thanks again for this great video!

[@LakesideAutobody]

Thank you - I do love doing it. Nothing better than nice peaceful day working out in the garage with a big mug of coffee on the wood stove.

[@SprayWayCustoms]

Great job..well explained 🤝

[@LakesideAutobody]

Thank you 🙂

[@jeffreymiers8793]

I would have to wrap that pole in bubble wrap....I'd clobber my head for sure! Looks good!

[@LakesideAutobody]

Thanks. I need a bigger garage but..... :) I have run my head into the ramps a few times thinking I cleared the lift going around it.

[@MrClarkisgod]

@@LakesideAutobody I knocked myself out on the ramps to the coolant drainage pit on Camp Pendleton..... and fell right into the pit with 100's of gallons of coolant, oil, hydro fluid in it. Ruined 2 entire uniforms. One for me and the guy that fished me out.

[@LakesideAutobody]

@@MrClarkisgod Wow - doesn't sound fun - How long were you on Camp Pendleton?

[@willienolegs8928]

Sure. Looks good.

[@LakesideAutobody]

Thanks - Happy Holidays :)

[@denniswinston7365]

Just started watching I have a 71 C20 and I plan to use your tips thanks

[@LakesideAutobody]

That's a great looking truck - glad you enjoy the videos. You're welcome and feel free to ask questions as you go along :)

[@billridenour1]

I recently used your 1, 2, 3 method in my garage with great results. Thanks

[@LakesideAutobody]

I'm glad to hear that - and you're welcome. Have a good week Bill :)

[@lismsthebenchandthebooth2230]

Not bad and it's good to show other guys you can get a decent job on a budget...every job doesn't need HOK paint and to be flow coated...good job sir!

[@LakesideAutobody]

Thanks a lot - glad you liked it. Have a good week end :)

[@thelizardking8525]

Excellent video. 👍

[@thelizardking8525]

Do you buff or wet sanding after it’s dry?

[@LakesideAutobody]

@@thelizardking8525 Thank you - You don't have to buff if you don't want. If you want it super flat then you can wet sand with 1200-1500 and buff.

[@dalebruce8253]

That post would drive me crazy lol

[@user-mp8er1ds9x]

Late to the party here. The job looks appropriate for the truck to me. I think the gun (or mix) was a bigger problem than the paint. It's asking a lot of the paint to flow out if it don't hit the panel the way we want it to. I'm able to put down no peel Rustolium with a Binks 7. Lot's of fast thinner, lot's of air at low pressure from about 10 inches moving fast. Makes nice wide and even fan. Takes 4 coats. But no runs, peels or dulls. It loses shine in about 4 years though.

[@LakesideAutobody]

The Majic enamel hardener will help with keeping the shine on that Rustoleum :)

[@mudslinger888]

I went from Dupont to Kirker years ago, never looked back, I get the very same quality results with both but Kirker is about 1/4 the cost. Mostly I use the Ultraglo single stage. Just wish I could get matched factory colors is all.

[@LakesideAutobody]

Wow - thanks for that. I've always wondered about Kirker but never tried it - I'll give it a try. Do you mix it as the can says or reduce it more?

[@bjr2379]

Awesome! Thanks for keeping it real.

[@LakesideAutobody]

You're welcome - I appreciate the support. Have a good weekend :)

[@UndergroundPaintKing]

Great job Jerry enjoy your weekend my friend!

[@LakesideAutobody]

Thanks 👍 You too. You been working on the box Chevy?

[@UndergroundPaintKing]

Lakeside Autobody I’ve been working on it a little but I have been super busy at the shop so I haven’t gotten to far on it.

[@aaronwarren8389]

First off the job looks great. The only problem for me is , I've used cheap paint products and it didn't last at all. Started getting those spider web cracks through out the vehicle. So I started using quality stuff.

[@LakesideAutobody]

I think the TCP may hold up real well. It's held up well on the Mustang I painted earlier this year: kzbin.info/www/bejne/l3urkmSdp99ofNU I'll do some videos on the longevity of this paint as the car ages maybe. Anyway - can't beat the quality stuff though - goes on real wet, lays down flat and doesn't run that easy - have a good weekend.

[@joeywigg9430]

When painting a car you should run full length not stop at door seem. Cool video 👍🏼

[@LakesideAutobody]

Thanks :)

[@hunkydude322]

not necessaritly . just look at his finish and you won't see any breaks in the finsih product etc.... the more experience in get in painting you'll find out how to go about it, like they say there's more than way to skin a cat.

[@carlosjimz]

Some people do full length runs, I've never done that, specially on rounded panels

[@chadvalliere8697]

Any painter worth a crap can get good results with trash guns. I’ve been painting for 22yrs. Had a buddy trying to paint his gas gas tank on his motorcycle. He painted it 5 times and turned out horrible every time. I told him to sand it down and get it ready I’ll be over after to work to shoot it for him. To his surprise I didn’t bring and of my Sata paint guns with me. I use his and I it came out perfect.

[@stevenstevens9191]

You rock!! Thank you

[@LakesideAutobody]

You're welcome. Have a good weekend :)

[@tonya9614]

Great video thanks for sharing!

[@LakesideAutobody]

You're welcome - thanks for the comment:)

[@41plymouthnut87]

Looks great 👍

[@LakesideAutobody]

Thanks 👍 I appreciate that - have a good weekend :)

[@Mikefngarage]

Damn mirrors are always a pain. especially with a gravity feed. bumped my mirror on my truck and picked up a fat run... Just color sanded it out and buffed it now its gone....

[@LakesideAutobody]

Right... I usually don't do that but did it that time. It got a little wet right there for sure.

[@niamakhtar2234]

Thank you for the informative video. Instarted off using the JGA 502 SF, but then people were not bothered about TE and clean environment. So long as the neighbours car was clean, all was well. I only have 1 SF now amd that is designated purely for large Metal flake jobs. My SATA's and Iwata's are all compliant or HVLP. Nice tight overlaps and gun control!!!

[@LakesideAutobody]

What's your favorite Sata and Iwata?

[@niamakhtar2234]

@@LakesideAutobody Hi Jeff, I have 10 Sata's and generally find that they are difficult to ' dial in' for a novice as you need to move fast, that is why most people use a 1,2 RP for clear coat. However, that being said; the 1,2 is a German measuremenr unique to Sata and is not 1.2mm but more close to a 1.3mm. I just use the HVLP for base, lower pressure required and less over spray. The personal preference of mine is the Iwata WS400 1.4HD, good for VHS clears, big wide fan, bigger than a Sata...only one gun has a bigger fan and that is the Devilbiss GPi 1.4mm. Atomization is far superior on the Iwata. So, it is ' Horses for Courses'. If I want a flat glass finish, then the Supernova, comes out. If it is a Candy or Pearl, then the Bellaria 1.3mm comes out to play. Just depends what I feel like on that day. One, must not loose sight of the prevailing fact; yes, technique is important and application is variable depending, on material, temperature, environment. BUT, there is no substitute for knowledge and skill base. By the way, I have no formal training at all, but was self taught due to need and a very steep learning curve. I do hope that I have not genuinely bored you!!! Warmest regards.

[@tony1798]

As usual, Great job

[@LakesideAutobody]

Thanks, have a great week end :)

[@edgarwest1568]

Well done thankyou

[@LakesideAutobody]

You're welcome - thanks for watching Edgar 🎄🎅😊

[@martinjay5906]

Good job sir.

[@LakesideAutobody]

Thanks Martin :)

[@chriswebb383]

Man it’s a shame that spray pattern won’t open a little more lol . Gotta move past the edge of the doors but that cheap paint came out lookin pretty good !

[@LakesideAutobody]

This may sound crazy and I know someone is going to crush me on this but for some reason the cheaper paints don't fly out of the gun as well as expensive paints do - I think there is a filler added. Therefore I have to sort of blast it at the vehicle by tightening up the fan a bit. I can get it wetter with a smaller pattern. I do like the TCP global stuff better than the Trinity stuff though. I'm going to do a few more videos onPaintforcars Trinity paint though. I thing with some slower quality reducer it may lay down better. When you cut and buff it however, it looks great.

[@BearBudgetTurbine]

Hey, I found another video with the siphon feed gun👍

[@actionjoejackson9880]

Very nice 👍🏼

[@LakesideAutobody]

Glad you liked it - Happy New Year!

[@danielkondra107]

But the thing with cheap vs expensive gun is Transfer efficiency, more expensive gun will use less material to achieve the same job, and plus coverage. So buying an expensive gun is worth it in the long run, less material wasted, less time spent👌

[@hunkydude322]

yeah but you can buy a 1000 dollar paint gun but if you don't know how do use it, it isn't worth shit to you.

[@danielkondra107]

@@hunkydude322 its the same as using a harbor freight. If you're a noob, it doesn't matter if you have a $13 gun or a $1000 gun you still won't know how to use either. I didn't say anything about user friendly settings will be better with a $1000 gun. I said paint transfer efficiency, Metallica lay out, those are a big difference

[@michaelbell7465]

I shoot a lot of Marine Paint (Awlgrip) and use HVLP guns. We have a lot less overspray and put on one tack coat and three thin/medium coats. Wet coats would be a mass of runs. Auto paint must be different.

[@LakesideAutobody]

Well... there's a very fine line between running it and not. When painting the sides of things like boats, it's difficult because flat is quite easy like hoods, deck lids etc. Sides are different - you have to stay a bit dry or else you certainly run it around body lines, spots where paint gathers, etc.

[@michaelbell7465]

@@LakesideAutobody I am really enjoying your videos. Thanks.

[@LakesideAutobody]

@@michaelbell7465 You're welcome Michael :)

[@D4x4Bronc]

I heard of another guy in Canada using the Astro guns saying they are user friendly.

[@LakesideAutobody]

They work just fine. I'm very confident in Astro Pneumatic stuff.

[@richardstone5241]

Howdy Jerry, slowly I am making it through all of your teaching video's. Question: Do you recommend a gravity feed or siphon feed spray gun and why?

[@LakesideAutobody]

To me they both spray great - honestly. I like the gravity fed guns because they are a tiny bit easier to clean. I like the siphon fed guns because they are a bit more balanced - if you are used to them. Again both with work just fine for you.

[@richardstone5241]

@@LakesideAutobody Ok, that makes good sense.

[@davenevarez4738]

Amazing

[@LakesideAutobody]

Thank you - Happy Holidays :)

[@classicshoelaces.7340]

Thank you so much man. I got my truck at 15 and I've got till the summer to get it going before I have to drive it regularly. These videos have been nothing but helpful, I'm hoping to have a truck with no rust and black by then. Do you have any recommendations for black paint? I think I've heard that its pretty hard to spray so any tips?

[@LakesideAutobody]

I love spraying black and you will too. Just make sure your body work is straight. Look at some of my block sanding videos (block sanding playlist). Great thing about black is you can always make repairs and not worry about matching - just tape off the panel you want to paint - spray it and it matches perfect. I like Nason Fulcryl II single stage black. You just mix it and spray. It's acrylic enamel - cheap and works great: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aHmWhnt5nLaoaLM. I also like Nason BC/CC black but it's going to cost a lot more. If you want real cheap paint I like TCP Global Urethane paint kits see this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/l3urkmSdp99ofNU Hope that helps - let me know how it's going and ask questions :)

[@classicshoelaces.7340]

@@LakesideAutobody thanks alot. I've got a couple more questions I forgot about, will it stick to fiberglass or automotive plastic whatever it is? My truck has a visor that I would like to keep too but I'm not sure if it will stick or not. Also what would make a body not straight? Mines going to have a new fender original doors and a new bed, how hard will that be to match up?

[@LakesideAutobody]

@@classicshoelaces.7340 Yes it will stick to fiberglass but you have to prime it first. It will stick to flexible bumpers on cars today too. If the visor is already painted and its in good condition then you can scuff it lightly with a scuff pad (3M Red) and paint it. Bottom line is auto paint will stick to anything as long as you get the right primer and the primer sticks. If you are talking about aligning the fenders and bed - that should go pretty smooth because trucks are pretty easy to replace parts on. If I didn't answer your ?s ask again if you want :)

[@billgroel4463]

Good job thank you for sharing

[@LakesideAutobody]

You're welcome Bill :)

[@vicshonebethel9934]

That's a beautiful paint job 👍

[@LakesideAutobody]

I appreciate that - glad you like it :)

[@husky1232]

Great job

[@LakesideAutobody]

Thanks - have a good weekend :)

[@hazelwoodgarage]

Rust oleum works good too if it’s not chilly in the shop,

[@LakesideAutobody]

I hear that - when it's cold that rustoleum likes to run and never dry :) With hardener it works a lot better though :)

[@hunkydude322]

thanks for your tips especially for the newbies to get some insight on this trade, cause there so much to learn if you wont to stay and learn this trade well, oh and one more thing, Clint Eastwood once said opinions are like asso's everyone has one. good video .

[@LakesideAutobody]

There is a lot to learn and it can and will be very frustrating at times but also very rewarding when things go smooth. Thanks - and have a good night.

[@jimfeaster4837]

Which brand Paint did you use ?

[@LakesideAutobody]

That is TCP Global's single stage urethane. Restoration Shop paint. I think I have the mix ratio and stuff in the description.

[@christopherdavis8725]

Great job you spray the way u want to and it works for u every one sprays different I love ur videos keep them coming

[@LakesideAutobody]

Thanks my friend - I appreciate it. Yep everyone paints a bit different. I'll keep the videos coming. Have a good weekend :)

[@hunkydude322]

hey, as long as you know what your doing who gives a rats ass what the world thinks, hey eveyone person has his own way of doing things, and as long as it comes out nice who cares.

[@LakesideAutobody]

@@hunkydude322 Absolutely - Every doctor, every car company, every carpenter does things a bit different. It's the final result that counts. Thanks for the comment. BTW, I have a job coming up where I use some quality paint so you'll see it lay down a lot nicer - pretty red too :)

[@BasicFolders]

Actually isn't the only difference between this "decent" paint job and a show quality paint job just how much you want to sand and buff it at this point....? Sure maybe panel alignment and so on, but as far as the paint goes, what you did in the video, isn't a super nice paint job finish still possible from here? (Assuming I'm going to do a single stage urethane paint job anyway, since that's what the 80's vehicle came with...) Extremely helpful video, by the way! 👍

[@LakesideAutobody]

Absolutely - well said. Painters at dealerships and mom and pop shops commonly wet sand and buff every single job - you're always going to have a bit of orange peel or a nib or two. If I lightly wet sanded this and buffed it, it would look awesome - see this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/poTaq2dtmb16b8U This is the cheapest paint you can buy - I still have the door and it looks exactly the same - held up real nice :)

[@johnsutter1497]

Do you do Autobody as a full time job? Enjoy your weekend!

[@LakesideAutobody]

I'm retired now but yes it was my full time job previously.

[@SteveStoltz]

I remember when I was a kid my dad would sometimes heat the paint on a hotplate before mixing it, have you ever heard of anyone doing that? Looking back, my assumption is that it made it lay down better?

[@LakesideAutobody]

I'm going to look into that. Never heard of that before. Sounds like maybe it would thin it or make it lay down or dry faster - must have been some reason.

[@MrClarkisgod]

Story is that's what they did on Dukes of Hazard because they had to paint/repaint so many cars all the time. They said it made the paint flow and self level much better.

[@robhenry3732]

They used to do that with alkyd enamel. There was no hardener in those days. You put the United-reduced paint on the hot plate till it was just about boiling and spray it on.

[@PnwOnTour]

Gunman put clear in the microwave 😎

[@SteveStoltz]

@@robhenry3732 Ok thanks, that could be what he was doing.

[@chronicdeist]

New subscriber. Do you have a video where you discuss any sanding between coats, if any. How long between coats?

[@LakesideAutobody]

I don't have one - but good idea. In a shop, when time counts, you sand it as soon as the paper doesn't dig into the paint. You'd wet sand and sort of drag the paper over the paint but not push when the paint is soft. It depends on how fast the paint is drying really - i.e summer temps vs winter temps, temperature in the shop, type of paint, etc. As a general rule of thumb - as soon as you can wet sand with out damaging the paint in the process is how long you'd wait. To be super safe just wait till the next day. If that doesn't answer you ? - ask again.

[@erikdale9145]

@@LakesideAutobody are you sanding in between the mid and heavy coats?

[@LakesideAutobody]

@@erikdale9145 No - but if you get dust or a bug you can wet sand with 1200-1500 after it dries and buff. This paint buffs out real nice.

[@erikdale9145]

@@LakesideAutobody and this was single stage, no primer, over existing paint? Sorry if I missed an earlier video

[@hobbyautobodyfun9315]

A Decent Paint Job for the minimum.

[@papajon6715]

Great Video !! Is it necessary to rub or buff the paint afterward for the gloss? Thank you so very much...

[@LakesideAutobody]

No, it shines real nice when it dries but I do think using a slower reducer would help it flatten out a bit. I'm real happy with the shine and the hardness of the paint. Dried real fast and hardened well - very durable so far too. It's very thick paint though so you'll have to reduce it to your liking - maybe do a test panel first.

[@papajon6715]

@@LakesideAutobody Thank you for the prompt reply. Is there a slower reducer that you would recommend be more appropriate rather than the Medium Urethane Reducer UR70 that is listed ^^^ above? My Honda Odyssey cripple van has some chips caused by the passenger door 'chattering' from a defective side roller hinge, since replaced, as well as scratches and a previously poorly done paint touchup done at the cripple van dealership. Would the addition of clearcoat help maintain the Starlight Silver Metallic, NH-638M paint?

[@67polara]

Nice but that tack coat looked almost like a guide coat it was so light.

[@LakesideAutobody]

To me it seems like PPG and Dupont sprays out of the gun a bit better. You can really dump some paint. The TCP and Trinity from Paintforcars is a bit different. If you ever try it let me know how it goes for you - curious as to how others work with it. Jerry

[@jasoncooper3116]

I painted a car with single stage urethane from paintforcars. It never had much gloss and 3 years later, the metallics look faded and some spots it pretty much turns to powder and rubs off the car. I don't think I'll ever use that stuff again. I've gotten better results with rustoleum.

[@JamesBrown-cx3xf]

Very very amateur painter , spray technique very poor , he’s all over the place , plus who the hell paints on their lift

[@LakesideAutobody]

@@JamesBrown-cx3xf When you use a different type of paint for the first time, you have to be very careful. Have to constantly check for orange peel, is it going to run easy or not, is it going to lay down flatter or stay the way it is, can I get it wetter, etc. This was all done with poor lighting, in a garage, with a gun I've never used before, in real time to boot (not hiding anything) and it turned out real nice. I even gave a real close up to give the viewer a good idea of the best this stuff is going to look. Now you know what this paint can do. Unless of course you wet sand it and wheel it :)

[@LakesideAutobody]

@@jasoncooper3116 Thanks for letting me know that. I don't see any videos on YT spraying inexpensive lines of paint in real time.

[@benmiller5015]

Not a bad looking job for being white paint. A few questions though. Is there a reason you went with a $30 siphon feed instead of a $10 gravity feed? Perhaps cuz it's single stage or something? Just curious cuz I have a $10 gravity feed (which turns out if it sits around like mine does the needle gets where it doesn't like to move freely) n I have an old siphon feed that was left for dead after my grampa didn't clean it but a bit of love n now it works fine. Also I noticed you were kinda hanging out on the trigger running air through for a second or 2 before pulling it enough for paint to flow. A trick to help the paint lay evenly when the triggers first pulled perhaps? Or just a habit? I was going to ask your opinion on clear coats as far as cheap is concerned until I got to the end n you said it's just single stage. But I wouldn't mind seeing a cheap paint n laying some different brands of clear on, maybe on just a piece of scrap sheet metal n doing a side by side comparison of cheap vs expensive clear coat if you're up for it. Or even just drop some of your experience n knowledge on the topic from your days as a body guy

[@LakesideAutobody]

I bought the gun 'cause I wanted a cheap primer gun as it has a 1.8 mm tip (relatively big for auto paint). Anyway, it sprayed so nice I didn't want to wreck it. So I thought I'd make a painting vid with it. The air coming out at first is just how you're supposed to spray paint. You start off the panel with air and as soon as your gun starts to pass the panel then fluid. So. air fluid air .... air fluid air... etc. Great suggestion on the clear coat. I do like Select Clear 496-00 from Nason It's not to pricey and works real well here's a vid on BC/CC with that clear: kzbin.info/www/bejne/r3imoYBseNybmJI I'll write that down - comparing clear coats - like cheap ones and do a video on that. Have a good weekend :)

[@fdarrenlendvay5004]

Ive found that hanging on the trigger, so air is always flowing, helps to reduce spitting.

[@billhayward2668]

I quit using my siphon feed guns long ago. They felt heavier and I could never guess very good when I was about to run out of paint. I never wanted to run out in the middle of a panel. The gravity feed cups are translucent which really help me. Are there any advantages for you using a siphon feed gun vs gravity? Great video!

[@LakesideAutobody]

Thanks bill. There's no advantage really - they spray well and are dependable - I just like to use them every now and then to keep them in good working order. Nothing like the feel of a quality Binks or Devilbiss... Sharpe too 😊 I use gravity fed guns mostly though - they're light, easy to clean, and like you said you can quickly see how much paint you have left :)

[@jackdoll2786]

Awesome videos, I'm planning on using the TCP on my plastic body golf cart project, any suggestions regarding primer? Thanks!

[@LakesideAutobody]

Any automotive primer will do. I like simple lacquer primer. If you only have a few spots to prime go to autozone and pick up a spray bomb can of primer. Other wise lacquer primer is fine. You can mix it to the thickness you like with regular old lacquer thinner from walmart or HD. Urethane 2K is for block sanding and Epoxy 2K is just a primer/sealer (doesn't fill / can't block sand it) Happy Holidays :)

[@jackdoll2786]

@@LakesideAutobody You responded so quickly I didn't even notice you responded at all! Thank you so much and I hope you are enjoying the holidays!

[@skeenslawpllc2130]

Hey man I'm looking for some advice. I have two air compressors (don't ask), one is a Harbor Freight McGraw 21 Gal 175 PSI 1.5HP getting 4.0 SCFM at 90 PSI. The other is a DeWalt 15 Gal. 225 PSI 1.6HP getting 5.0 SCFM at 90 PSI. I want to spray my truck with TCP single stage and I don't want to spend a million dollars on a spray gun. Which one of these compressors would you rather use for spraying and which inexpensive gun should I get?

[@LakesideAutobody]

I'd use the DeWalt and for a super cheap gun that works great, you can't beat this - www.harborfreight.com/air-tools-compressors/air-spray-guns/20-oz-hvlp-gravity-feed-air-spray-gun-62300.html See this video (purple gun) - kzbin.info/www/bejne/oqirdYCZebyJsLM

[@johnf6267]

Thanks! Liked and sub'ed

[@LakesideAutobody]

Thanks for subbing John - enjoy the rest of the week :)

[@user-gy9yk9gt8f]

Hey you didn't mention air pressure or fan settings

[@LakesideAutobody]

Air pressure is around 25 psi for most guns - more or less depending on your needs. Fan is what you are comfortable with. There are no rules cut in stone although the internet would make you believe so. Here's a rule of thumb method for adjusting a gun - kzbin.info/www/bejne/aIrHYayhirGno5o

[@almierz4604]

Sounds like my Sears Craftsman 5 horse air compressor. Looks like their post is in the way for painting on your fender. Why do most painters that I see start painting at the bottom and work their way up, I've always started cutting in the wheel well lips and lower rocker panels and then go to the top and work my way down that way you don't take the chance of messing up the paint that you started from the bottom and work your way to the top. Anyway it looks like a good paint job, wishing you the happy 2021.

[@almierz4604]

PS, I also usually have a bright light behind me so I can see the paint being laid down, looking good

[@LakesideAutobody]

Wishing you the best in 2021 too - Happy New Year Al.

[@randyanderson6110]

Was looking considering using that btand, what color of white is that? And, how much paint did you use? Thanks in advance

[@LakesideAutobody]

That's Olympic White - I bought the gallon kit with an extra gallon of reducer. You'll need the extra reducer as this paint is a bit thick. I will be painting the rest of the truck soon so you'll get some more info on it in the next few weeks :)

[@robertw5008]

Lakeside got another question for you about the s10 frame am I better off sandblasting the truck frame to get the rust off ? What grit medium do you recommend ? Coarse black oxide? Next question do you recommend powder coating the truck frame ? Are do I just go with a rust preventive primer and rubberized undercoat for the frame you know I'm a Michigander to need your expertise and knowledge!

[@LakesideAutobody]

Here's what I use: www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/black-diamond-medium-blasting-abrasives?cm_vc=-10005 . If you rattle the frame with an air hammer, that can get a lot of loose stuff off. Also a needle scaler can help or even a sander/grinder with fiber resin discs 24-40 grit. Wire wheel too. I think powder coating is great but $ and not sure if its possible for you to do. Anyway, if you are going to paint it, Eastwood makes a lot of paints for frames that resist rust and are tough as nails. Even brushed on rustoleum is great. Myself, I'm not too much of a perfectionist and I just knock the hell out of it once a year with an air hammer get all the loose stuff off, make sure everything is able to drain i.e. enclosed frame rails etc. They spray the underside with used motor oil. especially the brake lines and fuel lines like this video. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hImkoGh_m7Knhq8 Let me know what you do to it - very curious :) Jerry

[@DCopp]

Still waiting for that channel collaboration for you to shoot my Mustang hood and cover

[@LakesideAutobody]

Is the hood off of the car? Sorry I do remember the comment but forgot where you were from. Jerry

[@DCopp]

@@LakesideAutobody bay city

[@LakesideAutobody]

@@DCopp Email me with your idea on a collaboration - email is under the "about" tab on my home page. Jerry

[@adb140275]

How do you like TCP's urethane, or feel about the quality in general? Does it stand up better than enamel to UV long term?

[@LakesideAutobody]

I like it. You will need extra reducer though - the paint needs more reduction than they recommend. It sprays nice, has an excellent, hard shine flows out pretty well and holds up in the hot sun and outdoors as good as any. For the money, you can't beat it. Here's a follow up vid on this truck - kzbin.info/www/bejne/nXq2YoeYq5x-rNk

[@adb140275]

@@LakesideAutobody Thanks! I'm an experienced auto mechanic, but found body work to be impossibly challenging. All of your videos have been very helpful and easy to understand!

[@LakesideAutobody]

@@adb140275 Keep at it my friend - keep asking ?s. The difference between mechanics and body work is... Mechanics is perfect and works out perfect almost every time - body work is not perfect and works out unperfect almost every time - but you get closer and closer to perfection as you get better and better at it ✌

[@tonyacehawk]

Did you use lacquer primer or a 2k primer before you painted........or does it matter what kind of primer is used before painting?

[@tonyacehawk]

Looks great BTW. :)

[@LakesideAutobody]

@@tonyacehawk Thanks. I used lacquer primer surfacer on this job. You will hear a lot of things about how bad lacquer primer is, etc but remember before the 90's there was only lacquer primer. All primers work just fine as long as they're applied correctly. The problem is folks try to bury poor body work with primers or primer surfacers, leave it outside for a long time in primer, etc. Again, they all work great - it's just your preference and the amount of money you want to spend.

[@jeffarmer4428]

I imagen u have taken off your share of vehicle doors , ever do diver's door on 2003 ford explorer ? How do you disconnect the wiring harness ? I have one that someone messed up real good , they cut up the flex boot an i want to replace it , need to disconnect the wiring harness to replace it . Any ideas ?

[@LakesideAutobody]

First remove the inner door panel. Unplug everything from the switches on door. The harness will probably be attached somehow to the door (clips, etc.). After you have unplugged everything and detached it you can work it through the door frame. From there if you can work the boot off - great! you can replace it with one from the junk yard. I may be molded on though. Let me know how it goes. Jerry

[@williamallen4243]

how long do you wait between the coats ?

[@LakesideAutobody]

10 minutes :)

[@chicamolly]

Your tack coat spray pattern is way heavy in the center open the fan control

[@LakesideAutobody]

With PPG and Dupont you can have the pattern wide open and the paint goes on wet and lays flat. I found by closing the fan, I got less dry over spray. I wish there were some other guys that would spray TCP or Paintforcars -LIVE so I could compare. I have seen one or two but they just show the finished job so I think they wet sanded and buffed it.

[@autocpr1345]

@@LakesideAutobody Iv sprayed the "paint for cars " single stage and there base coat. None of it goes on slick , way to much peel and iv had problems with clear sticking to there base coats. Just flakes off after a while. Keep up the great vids.

[@bigal3448]

Do you prefer a gun with the cup on the top or the bottom, and why? I have only used the old style, but if the new style is easier to use, I will switch. The Astro you use in the video, has a 1.8 tip, I see you use that for cheap paint, is it ok to use the same gun for primer and sealer? I am getting ready to restore my 64 Ranchero, so Im gathering all the info I can. Your videos are great, I think I have watched most of them, some more than once. Thanks for all the help.BA Also, any gun or product info would be appreciated.

[@LakesideAutobody]

Sorry about the late reply Al - sometimes I don't get the alert. I like both the cup on top and bottom. The cup on top is easier to clean - to me. Both types are fine but I do think the cup on top dumps more paint with less over spray/ mist in the air. I love that Astro gun - really dumps the material - primer or paint. It depends really on what you are comfortable using. I painted for lots of year with a conventional gun without ever wishing for something else so that says something I guess. If you want to try the cup on top - run over to harbor freight and pick up the 15 dollar purple gun - it will spray just as good as the expensive HVLP guns and you can get an idea if you like those types of guns or not. Let me know what you decide and how your project goes. Feel free to ask ?s as you go too - Jerry

[@bigal3448]

@@LakesideAutobody Thanks alot Jerry, you are going to get sick of me asking questions before long. LOL I panted a truck about 7 years ago, I have a gallon of Painters Pride Premium 2k primer (unopend)

[@bigal3448]

I live in WA State, it has gotten down to 20degrese or so a few times, can I use it or should I throw it out? I have watched alot of videos on youtube, you are the best, it really seems you know your stuff, and no BS. Thanks again, BA

[@erikdale9145]

Do you run a fan or way to get fumes out? Debating keeping shop door open and fan..or is this a recipe for disaster w dirt&etc?

[@LakesideAutobody]

Yes - a regular sized box fan out the garage door on low. The door is pulled half way down on top of the fan or even lower. It clears out fast after a coat. Try not to paint on a real windy day :)

[@Nobodyofimportance2u]

What color is that?

[@LakesideAutobody]

Olympic white - I should have picked a whiter white really - tcpglobal.com/collections/acrylic-urethane-paint-Olympic-White

[@kerwinperez8157]

Great job. I did use TCP global acrylic urethane and I got too heavy orange peel, I'm going to respray and this time I'll use paintforcars, what recommendations could you give to me to get a little better, I'm very new to this and I'm using a Fuji 5 stage turbine, I did metallic red, I don't know now if I should do, candy, pearl or metallic, do you think better go with solid color? So if I get bad results I can wet sanding. Should I do like you, first coat light, second medium and last wet?, Thanks in advance

[@kerwinperez8157]

I saw your other message answer me, being a beginner should I avoid metallic candy and pearl, I'm using single stage, yes I think paint was a little thick, when you get orange peel is mandatory to wet sanding or a rotary polisher can get it off, I tried da polisher but didn't fixed, I'm painting outside in front of my garage, also how close to the panel do you recommend to spray and how big you use your fan pattern please

[@LakesideAutobody]

I used to spray PPG and Dupont at shops and it went on wet and flowed out real well - nice and flat w/o orange peel see this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aKCWaJeOYpKqZqs That's how it looked right out of the booth no wet sanding or buffing. That being said TCP global and Paintforcars are a bit different. They dry fast and do not flow as well as expensive paints. If you are just starting out I would avoid the metallics, etc. and stick with solid colors. I would use a mix ratio of 4 parts paint and at least 3 parts reducer as you have to reduce it quite a bit (its thick). Maybe even try a slower reducer to give it time to flow out. Please let me know how it goes -really. I'm curious to hear how these paints work for others. To me you have to work with them to get them to lay down nice. But they do harden well and shine well. Again keep me updated - Jerry

[@backwoodsman1753]

I find that the overspray mists onto my glasses and spoils the plastic lenses. What should I do to overcome that?

[@LakesideAutobody]

I use these - www.amazon.com/dp/B00E5NXENI?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details and clean them with "Awesome" dollar store cleaner in between coats. You can get them w/o magnified lenses too :)

[@backwoodsman1753]

@@LakesideAutobody Sorry I can't seem to locate either product in Australia, so presumably you have some kind of goggles to fit over glasses, and a window cleaner?? I don't like cleaning expensive optical glasses with paint thinners; and window cleaner is not recommended either.

[@LakesideAutobody]

@@backwoodsman1753 Here's the exact glasses I use - they aren't prescription - they're just like reading glasses or magnified - Pyramex Safety SG7910D20 Emerge Safety Glasses with Reader Lenses Option,Gray Frame - I think your best bet would be using goggles over your glasses. Let me know if you ever figure out how to solve that issue :)

[@backwoodsman1753]

@@LakesideAutobody My old eyes now require multifocal assistance to function well; but I have found most safety glasses and safety goggles don't fit properly over top of ordinary glasses. So sometimes I put large broad-framed sunglasses over top of glasses (too dark); sometimes I wear cheapo close-up magnifier reading glasses (awkward off immediate job); and sometimes I just risk my good glasses. Wiping all 3 options promptly and lightly with paint thinners, and then rinsing with water, doesn't appear to dissolve the plastic lenses, but I would suspect damage long-term. In speedway racing they used to have multiple-layer tearaway disposable goggles which may fit over glasses, but I can't find these now. Watching you at work woke me up that the face needs protection from all that swirling mist. Top marks for your helpful instructional videos.

[@LakesideAutobody]

@@backwoodsman1753 Thanks for your support my friend. Here's a thread on that topic that may help - autobodystore.com/forum/showthread.php?24099-People-spraying-with-spectacles

[@greg6107]

Beautiful paint job, does it really take a gallon just to do that area ? How much to do a full size PU Thanks for sharing

[@LakesideAutobody]

I always buy a gallon for any car or truck. If you spray the bed you may need a bit more - but I think a gallon would be fine for a PU. You're welcome BTW.

[@aarondean2958]

Is that for all three coats or just one coat?

[@tootsie5052]

As I was watching you paint I noticed that you didn't seem to be getting enough paint from the gun and thought you might be having problems with the cheap spray gun. then in the comments section you explained that problem caused by cheaper paints not coming out of the gun as well as the more expensive paints. I guess you do get what you pay for, but would a better gun make any difference?

[@LakesideAutobody]

Maybe but all of my guns work great with quality paint - see this video and how the Nason (decent quality paint) just flies out of the gun: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eX-5doGXqNymn9E The chap paint is always really really thick - don't know why. I reduce it like 100 percent 1:1 and it still fights coming out like better paints maybe a bigger fluid tip is the answer. I don't like playing around with the paint though so.....

[@moparnut6286]

Great job! I bought TCPs master pro 44 and still haven't sprayed with it susposed to spray like a devillbiss pro-lite for $139 so I better get to it... Gonna try their paint to.

[@LakesideAutobody]

I'll have to check it out - thanks for the comment. TCP is pretty good stuff. It holds up great, doesn't shrink, has great shine etc.

[@jsh3234]

Too much orange peel for my liking.😁 Have to ask, why didn't you when painting the door and extended cab panel, do it right through instead of stopping at the trailing door edge and then doing the extended cab panel separate? Would seem to me you'd get less overspray onto the door that way which would eliminate any dryness on the door. Just an observation .😏

[@LakesideAutobody]

It's just how I've painted since the 80's. Heres one I did in the early 90's with PPG this is how it looked right out of the booth kzbin.info/www/bejne/aKCWaJeOYpKqZqs The higher quality paints flatten right out like PPG, Dupont even Nason. I'm determined to get the cheaper lines to lay down though - I plan to do a video using slow reducer and more of it. Trinity and TCP are rather thick paints right out of the can.

[@rustyaxelrod]

Was there a reason for the darker primer under the lighter color or does that even matter? Will that type of paint buff out just to knock that slight orange peel off and if so how long would it have to dry? Thanks, I’m trying to get up the nerve to spray a car at home, I did a couple many years ago (1970’s) with straight enamel and one with lacquer. I know nothing about how modern paint acts. On one of my enamel jobs a big June bug landed in the middle of the hood and crawled a couple of feet before getting glued to a stop, what a mess lol.

[@LakesideAutobody]

The bug thing happens - I pick them out with a tweezers before too much crawling. Here's some Paintforcars.com acrylic enamel w/ hardener wet sanded and buffed 1 day later. kzbin.info/www/bejne/poTaq2dtmb16b8U You can wet sand and buff the next day if you're careful but you might want to wait a few days to make sure. Go for it - this paint is pretty easy to use - follow my mix ratio in the description as you have to reduce it more than they say (it's thick paint). Expensive paints lay down a bit nicer but not a big deal, most of the times you have to lightly wet sand and buff any way. If a fly lands in it - pick it out, hit it hard with some paint, wet sand it and buff it. :)

[@rustyaxelrod]

Lakeside Autobody- Thanks for the reply. Nice to know it can be touched up if there’s an issue, that takes a little pressure off.

[@donaldwarwick6780]

Is it possible to wet sand single stage to get rid of orange peel? I am finding conflicting information. Thanks!.

[@LakesideAutobody]

Absolutely. Before BC/CC there was single stage. Many single stage solid color or metallic paints where wet sanded and wheeled before it left the shop. In fact all lacquer jobs were buffed - metallic or solid - it had to be. Here's two examples: kzbin.info/www/bejne/poTaq2dtmb16b8U The next one is metallic - check out the deck lid @ the 13 minute and 17 second mark - kzbin.info/www/bejne/l3urkmSdp99ofNU - deck was wheeled / quarter was not. Hope that answers your question :)

[@donaldwarwick6780]

​@@LakesideAutobody This is awesome - I really appreciate the content and help! So, to get the best results, what wet sanding process would you recommend - just 1000? Or work my way up from 1000-3000 then buff? Thank you so much! What you are doing here is AMAZING!

[@jimurrata6785]

You seem to be adjusting the gun a lot while in the middle of the door panel. Is paint building up on the gun or something else effecting your pattern? Aren't you incredibly sticky when you're done spraying? It looks, from the camera, that you are working in a fog bank.

[@LakesideAutobody]

It's really the first time I used this gun and the first time I sprayed a solid color from TCP global. I'm used to Dupont and PPG and this paint didn't seem to be covering or coming out as well as I'm used to. When I opened the fan adj it seemed to make more fog and dryer spray. So I sort of blasted it at the panel trying to reduce the fog. The gun sprays great - I shot the sealer with it and that came out fine.

[@jimurrata6785]

@@LakesideAutobody I didn't realize you'd never used the Astro gun before. Do you know what fluid tip this gun comes with? (1.4mm?) ... seems typical. Maybe a little more, or a slower reducer would help? I really appreciate all the work you put into these videos, taking the time to break it down for us hobbyists. Your explanations and demonstrations are detailed and well filmed. Thanks! Edit: I see you replied it's a 1.8 tip. I assume you can even spray surfacer with this gun. Given that, I don't think volume (lack of it) is contributing to your dry spray. Maybe just slow it down with a shot of toluene or something?

[@LakesideAutobody]

@@jimurrata6785 1.8mm! That's why I bought it. I was going to use it to spray primer but it was so nice looking and sprayed so well, I didn't feel like wrecking it yet so I figured I'll make a painting vid with it first. I think it would spray Nason or Dupont stuff real well. It's not the most quality gun (screw threads, etc) but... cool color :)

[@jamesroe7628]

Stop tinkering with your gun. Set it prior to spraying. You should need never have to mess with after, especially with base. Clear MAYBE. Like I said before relax... you look tense. Hold the trigger and move freely left right up down if needed. In this vid you put to much base for a coat imo. Put a coat and let flash. Just my 2 cents.

[@LakesideAutobody]

When guys start talking about body work I know what they know. The guys who knew the least talked the most. The ones who were the best were humble and didn't talk about themselves. This is single stage paint which means it's not base coat. It gets sprayed differently than BC/CC. Take it easy - every video I make is with different guns and different products to make it applicable to many different folks thus the adjustments on the fly. Again, you should know this if you've done it long enough.

[@davidbondy4359]

my cousin painted his car and got zebra stripes what causes that.

[@LakesideAutobody]

When the paint is wet, metallic flakes do all kinds of crazy things - sink to the bottom, lay all kinds of ways, gather in spots, etc. If you spread grass seed, the best way is to throw it high in that air and let it fall evenly. Here's how you would use that crop dusting idea to stop tiger stipes and mottling - kzbin.info/www/bejne/r3imoYBseNybmJI

[@alirazmjou2149]

درود بر شما متشکرم اقا

[@LakesideAutobody]

خواهش میکنم

[@Mrburger-um8by]

👍👍

[@LakesideAutobody]

Thanks - have a good week :)

[@blackenigma1054]

so my question is that enough to paint the entire truck

[@LakesideAutobody]

Yes - I painted the whole truck with the gallon kit. I do think I'm out though or maybe have just enough to touch up some spots with a brush :)

[@aarondalton2223]

You act like you're afraid of the paint. Lay it down man!

[@LakesideAutobody]

When you use a new paint for the first time you have no idea how it will behave - will is flow out after time, will it stay orange peely, will it run easier than PPG or paints that you're used to - etc. Also with out good lighting it's hard to see how it's laying down so you have to look from all angle to see what you're doing... Don't want to come out 5 minutes later and have to fix 5-6 runs. No runs is a really good thing. I'd rather lightly wet sand with some 1500 and buff than fix runs any day. Have a good week :)

[@raulbettencourt6243]

Horrible pain job orange peel every where...

[@LakesideAutobody]

This is as wet as this TCP global urethane could put on w/o runs. Maybe with a slower reducer it would have flowed out a bit better like this job done with the same paint but lower temps which allowed it time to lay down or flatten out: kzbin.info/www/bejne/l3urkmSdp99ofNU A light sanding and buff and it was real nice - like this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/poTaq2dtmb16b8U

[@chicamolly]

I'm sorry, you sprayed way too dry, spray double wet coat after tack coat so it will lay down. There is no way that orange peel all over is acceptable.

[@LakesideAutobody]

You can spray PPG and Dupont with a wide open fan and it goes on wet and lays flat - not cheaper paints - I think that's why they're cheap. Next time you spray a car with cheap paint take a close up shot of the finished job and send it to the email under the "about" tab. Real close up on an angle. Anyway I'd love to to see it some pics - You have to use Paintforcars or TCP because PPG and Dupont lay right down nice and flat every time - Here's PPG using same method: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aKCWaJeOYpKqZqs It's automatic with good paint but quite a challenge with the cheaper stuff.

[@chicamolly]

@@LakesideAutobody I disagree, you are spraying too thin. It has to go on heavy enough to flow out , but not enough to run

[@LakesideAutobody]

For real - I'd rather have a bit of orange peel than have to fix runs. Every one paints a bit different. Like I said though PPG and Dupont flatten out as it drys - the cheaper stuff not as much. Have a great week end :)

[@chicamolly]

@@LakesideAutobody Different strokes for different folks

[@bjr2379]

@@LakesideAutobody I bet he's a blast at a party! I guess somebody has to be "that guy"... Nice low dollar paint job Jerry!