Cheap Radeon RX 5700 XT Roundup, Red Dragon, Asrock Challenger, MSI Mech, Sapphire Pulse & More!

[@seylaw]

Thanks for that "Battle of the Cheap" of 5700XT's! I guess the PR departments feared this one would be coming and you exposed the duds to avoid. You did a great service to inform us here!

[@josuetrey2338]

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[@finneganalexzander1317]

@Josue Trey Instablaster :)

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[@josuetrey2338]

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[@finneganalexzander1317]

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[@Targetlockon]

7:17 Testing 8:01 Graphs

[@alfredhuiseekhoorn382]

Thx

[@60DollarCodger]

Melbourne Observer: "Local Man Wins Contest That Only He Is Playing. Collects All 5700XT'S" 😜

[@KenshiroPlayDotA]

Melbourne Observer, the following day: "Local Man Who Won Contest Only He Was Playing, Collecting All 5700XT's, Ends Up In Hospital After Collapse Of Towering Boxes Of 5700XT's"

[@petercruz1993]

“Well know Melbourne based KZbin channel announce competition whist hammered on goon. More to follow 🍺 ”

[@Saigonas]

@@KenshiroPlayDotA hahahahs lmao

[@jimsinnovations2737]

I bought the 5700 asrock reference board changed pads an paste and flashed to a xt and with money i saved doing that i got it on a nice water block and runs really nice and cool. 2ghz clock max. And mem goes to 950mhz stable and cool. Very happy with it , performance wise is just absolute

[@geraar88]

Thanks for going the extra mile and reviewing the budget cards as well! I'm going to try to stretch my rx480 till the next gen, but if that takes too long, I now know a powercolor red dragon card is perfect for me. Matches the aesthetic of my build, fits the 2 slot clearance and great value.

[@helleyequeue]

same situation but thinking of taking it don't want to wait one more year

[@backseatpolitician]

I was waiting as well. I went into my local microcenter and they are clearing out the reference 5700xt and I was able to get a open box one for $297! I had to take it. Don't overlook the blower style coolers if you are looking for one on the cheap.

[@angrytoast1497]

@@backseatpolitician Oh hell no! Blower style Amd cards will give you nothing but trouble.

[@27schmidty]

Thanks for all your reviews Steve I went with the red devil in the end really wanted to buy the tuf version until I sore your review so thank you for all your hard work.

[@AdamBrackney]

First of all Steve, you're awesome! Now that's out of the way, I think you should add noise normalized testing in videos like these. I think it would be really helpful to see the temps when everything's on an even playing field. It's actually what I use to make a decision on what to buy. Thanks again for your great videos!

[@Chocoboengorilado]

Sapphire has been doing a terrific job with their Pulse line. Affordable and high quality at the same time. I had a Sapphire Pulse RX Vega 56 which I manually overclocked quite a bit and never run warmer than 71ºC.

[@TheGoodOldGamer]

I saw the red dragon open boxed for around $390. Glad to see it holds up well.

[@mohammadasad9781]

i got mine from microcenter for 340

[@Lionheart1188]

But can it run Max Payne ;)

[@CorporalCookie]

Was on sale here a little while ago for 420€ , which comes to around $375 if you remove the VAT.

[@takehirolol5962]

The Red Dragon and the Pulse are available in my country. I'll get the Red Dragon in less than 3 weeks before the mandatory Christmas bonus.

[@SebastianE18]

Red dragon is a gem in my opinion. My Vega 56 Red dragon is wonderful! I have it OC to 1700 MHz core and 935 MHz HBM and rarely does it go above 75 degrees as full load fans spinning around 2500 RPM.

[@drwho900]

As a general rule, stick to Sapphire and Powercolor for your AMD cards. Every other brand is a shot in the dark.

[@d4nyll]

Yup, could never go wrong with either of those brands

[@jasonmcgrody9472]

Each company has a cheap and expensive 5700XT and all of them are good.

[@thordalgaard206]

@@jasonmcgrody9472 thicc ii and that gold one tho

[@theetacticalpossum2769]

Gigabyte seems to have made a very good card this time around

[@callidusvulpes5556]

@@thordalgaard206 but the anime one.

[@anakondase]

Glad to see that I did right when I chose the Pulse. Not that the choise was difficult without this information, I've been well pleased with Sapphires cards before.

[@Tummymunster]

I really like that you include card and heatsink weights. Helps to see who cheaps out on material for cooling.

[@GAnimeRO]

My personal ranking: Budget: Sapphire Pulse Best: Sapphire Nitro+

[@michener1622]

why not ROG asus or devil or thicc III

[@gazlink1]

@@michener1622 because Sapphire is rock solid. They never have duds. They know about cooling and reliability. They're not out for a quick buck, they just make solid stuff.

[@frankneugebauer6455]

@@michener1622 ROG too expensive for nothing Thicc II: Gamers Nexus came to a different result. He says DO NOT BUY. So further investigations may be needed.

[@thepcenthusiastchannel2300]

For nVIDIA, eVGA. For AMD, Sapphire. That's how I roll.

[@OlettaLiano]

Agreed, and I'm going with the Nitro+.

[@ecophreak1]

I have the red dragon, can't complain

[@koltface]

Looks like I'll be doing a little more temp testing on mine, then doing an RMA. Mine runs loud and hot.

[@kekag]

I got the ASrock Challenger in August because it was one of the first aftermarket cards that were avilailable and I regret not waiting.

[@itsJPhere]

@@koltface Maybe your case is just poorly ventilated?

[@TheDarknessOfGames]

Kolton Sinclaire highest mine has gotten is 65c

[@ecophreak1]

Mine goes to 70ish in furmark, upper 60s in games, and that's in a bequiet silent base 600 case, which doesn't have great airflow, admittedly the cpu is on a clc so it's only the gpu that's really putting out heat inside

[@meistrimeez]

Extremely useful content. Thank you!

[@tvance03]

Great round up and review! Thank you for taking the time to pull this together. I got a new open box MECH 5700 XT for $348 USD and thought it was a great deal, until I heard the hair dryer sound coming from the computer...wow, it's aggressively loud!

[@xlr8jaeger]

How's the performance comparatively? Any overclocking?

[@Wineblood]

I'll probably upgrade from my 470 to a 5700 XT when the next gen is out and these have dipped in price. Great content as usual and a cheer for the patrons

[@ImDead1nside]

I bought mine for $269 at bhphotovideo granted it was a blower card but it was a good deal m.imgur.com/a/Vq6ghjJ

[@yustformusic]

@@ImDead1nside That's a insane deal! I'm waiting for black friday / tech monday and hoping dutch retailers drop the prices a bit. I wish there was a microcentre in europe they also have great deals. Enjoy your card!

[@yustformusic]

@Moto andGivi If we can expect the same leak pattern as the rx 5700 & now the 5500 than it will be dropping mid/late Q1 2020 at the earliest. Enjoy your card ;)

[@vinylSummer]

Did you get it?

[@syncmonism]

Thank you for doing this video! Weird how the Powercolor Red Dragon seems to have been so under-promoted by Powercolor, given that it's actually a really good card.

[@Raider_MXD]

Thanks a lot. Suprising the Red Dragon does so well consindering its size and low fan speeds, I'm impressed.

[@Psi-Storm]

Sapphire and Powercolor were also the goto oems for the vega cards, so no suprise they don't drop the ball for the 5700(xt).

[@yensteel]

Thank you so much Hardware Unboxed for covering these cards. It was hard to find reviews for the Red Dragon and the Challenger.

[@JorgeTamezPhoto]

I bought the Mech a few days ago, upgrading from a 1070 and the fans are LOUD!!

[@aos32]

You could undervolt the card and turn down the fanspeed. Even 80 degrees celsius are just fine.

[@ICCUWANSIUT]

get used to it friend, AMD cards run hotter than a model on a runway. Srs RX 580 with good case flow and 60% fan curve is still like 50-55c which is crazy when its on low power mode.

[@Lionheart1188]

@@ICCUWANSIUT No, just no, the reference models do, AIB's are fine, most of them.

[@TheXev]

Yeah, the auto undervolting option in the drivers is worth a click. Do that, then manually adjust the fan curb a bit.. it will help considerably. I have to wonder how all the results of these cards would change with auto-undervolt---- OMG STEVE, YOU HAVE TO DO ONE MORE 5700 XT VIDEO HERE IT IS! lol

[@Hardwareunboxed]

If you can try re-applying the thermal paste, the stock stuff is garbage.

[@alc1489]

Thanks for the video. I'm getting ready to get one of these. My area the powercolor is on sale for $359 in store. Glad it's got good stats.

[@SpeedsterBlur]

Nice! I paid $450 including Tax for mine on Amazon with free shipping.

[@TiamatsScale]

i have the slight feeling that someone is somehow obsessed with the 5700XT :D

[@0FFICERPROBLEM]

Aren't we all?

[@michael04__806]

@@0FFICERPROBLEM I'm not lol

[@apocalypseap]

Hey 5700XT is really competitive. Glad to see a high end AMD card competing well. 5700 and 5700 XT are doing so well, in fact, that reportedly, Nvidia is going to be bringing back the 2070. Not sure how well that's gonna do tbh. They'll probably put the MSRP at $400 if they do. You can quote me on that. I'll be VERY surprised if they go lower than that.

[@issacb6124]

@@apocalypseap If that''s true.. I don't like it. 5700XT is clearly better than the 2070 non s, unless you desperately want ray tracing.

[@apocalypseap]

@@issacb6124 Yeah, ideally I'd like to see them release it at $350. That would make it pretty competitive.

[@blackjack-ge3wt]

Have you ever considered plotting the core temperature against the fan rpm? This way you could create a graph that describes the efficiency of a given cooler. (You could even plot a regression function through all results and calculate the standard deviation for the difference between a result and the expected result using the regression function. Results greater than the standard deviation are worse than the average result, lower results are better)

[@LrdZanny]

If you don't have length or slot restrictions you get Gigabyte. If you don't have height restrictions you get the Pulse. If you have both you get the Red Dragon. Everyone else is out of the running! I ordered my Gigabyte card right when it hit $400 on yours and GNs recommendation. Considering how popular these reviews were for months, I'm wondering how manufacturers are going to react in the future. There has never been this much interest in across the board reviews of every partner model of a GPU series before this and I hope it hits MSI / ASUS / Asrock / XFX / etc where it hurts when they make faulty or deceptive designs that don't perform.

[@guysolomon7904]

I have to say Steve - I'm very impressed you got sponsorship from Case Gear. When I used to work there we used to get emails extremely frequently about people wanting sponsorship and it was always company policy that they didn't - so it's a testament to the quality of your channel that they would make an exception.

[@l-cornelius-dol]

The Pulse absolutely *does* work very well. I am extremely pleased with the performance and cooling of this card.

[@l-cornelius-dol]

@Moto andGivi Could be the R5. I have a 3900X, so I get 4K gaming at high to ultra quality and 60 to 100 FPS. Mine holds 2000MHz+.

[@Varmint260]

Ordered a Red Dragon 5700XT on sale, arrived yesterday, first Radeon discrete GPU I've had since a 9250 back in 2004. I'm very happy so far! Actual aluminium back plate with thermal pads, which may help explain why the thermals are so good for such a light/simple heat sink. Made my decision based on this particular video, thanks very much Steve!

[@not12listen]

The Gigabyte card is incredibly quiet! Absolutely thrilled with mine!

[@abdelrauf1408]

is it compatible with msi mystic light?

[@not12listen]

@@abdelrauf1408 That I do not know - I disable all RGB and used the Gigabyte RGB utility to do this.

[@abdelrauf1408]

Joel M ok thanks

[@apocalypseap]

The Gigabyte card actually looks the best overall tbh, just looking at numbers. power consumption is very good, some games it does particularly well for the power it draws, really good acoustics, best GPU temp, VRM and GDDR6 temps are acceptable. I'd get one if I were building a system right now.

[@chrisvanlieshout733]

Joel M great gpu. got it myself, with light games the fans dont even spin (under 60C) , great performance and pretty low noise at gpu intensive games. Also was one of the cheaper cards in my country.

[@mpitogo]

Thanks for doing the tests. I purchased the ASRock Challenger and found similar issues with heat. To solve for the heat issues, created a custom gaming fan profile which is basically a straight line running the fan at 2200RPM for consistency at any temp above 60C. I have a Mini ITX build in a Core V1 case and the normal two slot card Challenger 5700XT was the only one that fit other than the reference blower. I also purchased the Sapphire reference 5700XT with a waterblock for a microATX build. At stock both where not great performers but with some tweaking I was pretty impressed.

[@meteormedia7021]

Steve, if you'll keep making 5700XT videos, I'll keep watching them. Excellent content, as always!

[@JETZcorp]

I bought an Asrock Challenger 5700XT because I wanted the XT as soon as possible and all the other options had sold out within hours of release. Frankly I wish I'd gotten the reference blower model. This is the loudest card I've ever had. It makes my whole desk hum and I can feel that through my HOTAS even though I have that soft mounted. Fortunately temps do seem stable even running furmark for a long time, but it's working hard to make that happen. If I'd bought the reference card it'd still be hot and loud, but at least I'd have that daft little notch to make me smile.

[@BigSaulo]

Yay! I got the gigabyte last weekend for $400.

[@Dritzolum]

ive been using xfx since i first got a pc , recently upgraded to the XFX RX 5700XT ULTRA Thicc II, honestly i dont get what everyone complained about , with this card you just have to tune it about 30 minutes properly (I have a video about this) and then it runs sooo good, its so stable, and very very fast, i've seen benchmarks about this card and it is about the same and in some games even better than NVIDIA's RTX 2070 Super at $100 less, and even the 1080Ti. BIG win

[@tiket68]

Every time he said Mech, I thought he was saying “meh”.

[@Hardwareunboxed]

MSI Meh MSI Revoke Asrock Challenged Asus PUFF

[@dustystotler1376]

@@Hardwareunboxed LOL

[@lillianfox6848]

@@Hardwareunboxed Asus Puffs, part of a balanced build

[@samwong9494]

@@Hardwareunboxed Gigabyte "R" Us

[@nialmurphy9622]

@@Hardwareunboxed SAVAGE

[@matttran7161]

Holy thorough testing, Batman. Super appreciate the power consumption, total system consumption, and decibels. Nobody every talks about how loud these things are.

[@thepolticalone961]

It might be worth adding a sound standardised test like GN. But solid work as Alway

[@Hardwareunboxed]

I've thought about it but I prefer to show the out of the box experience and you can work out which cards work well very easily with the data already provided. It might be something we add in the future but for now we're happy with this format. I might add a dBA/GPU Temp graph though for an easier comparison between the two.

[@thepolticalone961]

@@Hardwareunboxed I think it would be good to stop cards brute forcing there way to the top. But you do great work, keep it up benchmark god

[@snortymcgout]

Hardware Unboxed: I agree, show temps out of the box so people who don’t tweak with their card know how it will perform. However, right after that slide maybe do a sound normalized trial as it discounts any fan-temperature manipulation by the manufacturers just to look good in reviews. Great work anyways I know these benchmarks took a hell of a long time to do.

[@thepolticalone961]

@Florian Oprescu why buy the reference model?

[@kepeter97]

i think even a fix rpm comparison could be nice. eg all of them at 2500 rpm

[@Sparcle]

Just got a Red Dragon, happy to see those results! It was just a bit cheaper than Pulse on Black Friday in my region, either way both cards are amazing.

[@johnm2012]

This is the one I've been waiting for. Thank you so much, Steve. It's the Red Dragon for me. No question, as I won't waste a third PCIe slot.

[@Paulie8K]

I have the Challenge after getting it in a prebuild. It's def hot out of the box but I undervolted it and added 4 120mm fans to my case for a total of 8 and that combo has dropped the temps by 20 degrees. It's a little loud with all the fans running but I actually wear noise canceling headphones and overall I'm not that sound sensitive. Otherwise, it runs like a charm now in all my games.

[@MaximusHexon]

1. Sapphire nitro+ 2. Gigabyte Gaming OC 3. Powercolor Red Dragon/Red Devil 4. Sapphire Pulse

[@itsJPhere]

Nitro+ is power hungry for no reason. I'd say the Gigabyte is best overall, if you don't care about aesthetics.

[@MaximusHexon]

@@itsJPhere it just has a higher power limit.

[@itsJPhere]

@@MaximusHexon It doesn't seem to do much with that extra power.

[@KingEdgeHead]

For some reason on Newegg in the land of rising canucks the Sapphire Pulse is $70 more than the Nitro from Sapphire. It's weird to me how GPU prices change region to region

[@Silentdeffy]

@Hardware Unboxed: You mentioned in your ASUS ROG STRIX RX 5700 XT review that it was consuming too much power and that ASUS had acknowledged it being a firmware issue and that a downloadable fix was underway and possibly even put up by the time the review went live. Now I got that card as a birthday gift and I would like to see if I could get that fix for the card but ASUS has yet to publicly release that fix. You, by any chance, have any more info regarding this?

[@Hardwareunboxed]

I'm still waiting on Asus for the fix they promised weeks ago.

[@mythicalsnake8656]

@@Hardwareunboxed Yikes. Such a shame, as it could be a great 5700 XT... How could they screw it up so much, while having the fundamentals down. It's almost as if they wanted the product to suck (or at least, be an unremarkable card with an expensive price tag) :/

[@SubZero8007]

Please DON'T buy an Asus AMD card! They promised a fix for their Vega cards too - and I returned 3 last month (newest models, so should be the "fixed" models). All three had high VRM and memory temperature (over 100/110°). And now they're doing it again. Don't support shitty companies for doing shitty stuff.

[@Warhorse469]

if your looking at the upper-tier 5700 XT's then the Red Devil or sapphire nitro would be the best option.

[@mdlt8874]

Hardware Unboxed I would highly appreciate if you could do a review of temps/noice on these new drivers of the strix rx5700xt. I love how the card looks, but hearing people mention several problems about it makes me feel scared about getting it. People say to have a common issue with this model too, they say that the VRMS are not in solid contact with the PCB because of not having a correct design (basically if you move up or down the pcb it will bend pretty easily and stop touching vrms, causing bad temps). Cheers!

[@bradbeliveau6200]

Just finished a build with an asrock challenger and ryzen 7 3700x, gpu temps at 1080p with maxed out settings at 60 frames (my monitor is old) gives gpu temps of around 65 celcius. Software on these cards is so so so nice, too. im completely new to pc building and the software is very jntuitive and easy to use which is great

[@xxgg]

Hahaha~ Loser me! I bought the absolutely the worst card from the list! (never pre-purchase if you aren't going to build it asap to test it) I actually stuck as many of those small low profile memory chip heatsinks as I could hit on to Asus Tuf flat memory plate and it actually lowered the temp by few. Now runs below 100 under Furmark. With my 1080p realworld gaming, mem temp is around 85~90C max.

[@snortymcgout]

xxgg: At least you did what you had to in order to fix the problem. With memory temps under 95 degrees it shouldn’t fail in the next couple of years now.

[@blindtruth4614]

Harsh lesson but at least you did not need to spend a lot to learn it

[@Akiwaaa_]

It's okay man, at least you can enjoy your PC right now. While me here, right now, still got a cliffhanger by the Phanteks P360X and Antec Katana RAM :(. When is those things released for real??? 😭

[@therevanchist1123]

Is still reach out to Asus and see about getting an rma. You could just tell them it keeps crashing in game and you believe it’s overheating somewhere. I hope Asus steps up and recalls then if not I’d personally be weary of purchasing from them in the future myself.

[@xxgg]

Lesson is... don't buy before reviewers get their hands first. (Well... qualifying reviewers if you know what i mean)

[@enioapolinario8538]

Thank you, again, THANK YOU for make your insights about the ASrock Challenger Steve Cheers man!!!

[@remcojonkers5027]

It's Jensen huang here, i don't see enough rtx boxes on this video.. Als you didn't mention raytracing, and my favourite 5700 xt is a rtx 2070..

[@Misaelec7]

I've the 5700 XT Red Dragon, nothing seems "Wrong" with the card, but green screen crashes and hard bios resets are a daily issue...

[@carosel43]

i was tempted by the mech but the days of jet powered pc's are done so it looks like the red dragon might be the one

[@paulsim7589]

"but the days of jet powered pc's are done" - Lol

[@vergildisparda]

The Challenger D is currently 360 ($380 with a 20 dollar MIR) on Newegg.

[@RainOfAshes]

Thank you for the roundup! Any info on the improved bios for the ASUS RoG Strix 5700 XT? You guys commented in another video that there was going to be an update.

[@Icannothandleany]

Bought a mech oc cuz it was at least $50 cheaper than any other counterparts available here in canada. Besides performance wise even the red dragon( which is considered the “best” out of the bunch and also $100 more expensive ) only barely surpasses mech oc by a negligible margin. I don’t care about fan “noise” and those bullshit thermal stats unless they really visibly hampers the performance - which they do not.

[@TheDarknessOfGames]

Just bought the red dragon 5 days ago, can’t get it over 70% because of my i5 8400 and at 70% load I don’t even hear it running

[@Zahid81]

I didn't expect that cpu would bottleneck the rx 5700 xt...which game did you experience this in?

[@TheDarknessOfGames]

Zahid Tabassum fortnite, pubg, apex

[@zloycock]

@TheDarknessOfGames I think its can be memory problem. If u have 2666 MHz memory and non-z MT try to tightening timings. And u have memory in dual channel right?

[@TheDarknessOfGames]

ZloyDick yeah only 2400 tho

[@zloycock]

@TheDarknessOfGames omfg dude. Well u can raise voltage to 1.35V, choose 2666MHz(maximum for non-z boards) and try to get lower timings than u have now. Do u have memory in single or dual channel?

[@predafilip8376]

I wanted to get the Gigabyte RX 5700XT Gaming OC and this video confirmed it. Thank you.

[@KNightstyleZ]

*Can you test the XFX RX 5700XT THICC III?* Yeah, theres appearently a 3rd version with 3 Fans

[@Deliveredmean42]

The fudge, XFX. I am still baffled if I want their none XT version or not.

[@danielemedici948]

imagine if they did another model ignoring completely all of gamers nexus' advice and just added a third fan just to make it thiccer and brute force more air to compensate their design flaws.

[@estanenti]

The stats show tuf is more shit than thicc.... xfx say it was fixed on ultra models... i want be fixed i buy thicc3 oc tomorrow is in my home.... comprada en ganga para mexico....

[@wallywest2360]

Had the Red Dragon for about a week. Runs very cool and quiet in my system, but I do have an O11 Dynamic with two bottom fans feeding cool air straight to the GPU. At 100% load, torture test, it maxed out at 80 C. Highest I've seen it during gaming (Outer Worlds) was low 70s.

[@ericbergfield6451]

Bought myself the Sapphire Nitro+, after sitting on the decision for 2 months, I needed it for CoD MW, as my R9 290X from 2013 wasn't letting me use 200% resolution scaling (which is important for me at 1080p gaming), thanks for rounding out all the XT models it made making the decision much more relaxing!

[@techforge-Nate]

Pulse for the win. Best built out of the lot, usually get it for a good price, and it uses the reference PCB so you can get watercooling gear easily matched up if you ever want to go down that route.

[@aidenmcgeehan428]

Legit was waiting for this video, thanks read my mind

[@jasonmcgrody9472]

I'm surprised Power Color wouldn't send you a Red Dragon to test because it tests very well. AND it's only two slots. What a great card for a tiny ITX build. Power Color should trust their product more and send you stuff to test.

[@DaisyKmua]

I ordered the red devil, i have a feeling I'll love it ^^

[@Scorptice]

and, do you?

[@DaisyKmua]

@@Scorptice I'll know probably in december, January at the latest. Can't decide on a mobo and case :)

[@grapeboi9256]

@@DaisyKmua get a b450 tomahawk and any case with good air flow like a meshify c or phanteks p300

[@Lnly-]

Are u having any problems with it?

[@DaisyKmua]

@@Lnly- me with the red devil? it's working great besides that in the beginning i couldnt run OC mode, got black screen, so i'm using silent and that works so im too scared to try again :p

[@Youcah]

Have had my Pulse for over a year, pulled it out for a clean and it didn't even have a single clump of dust... Granted It sits inside of a wind tunnel (CM MasterCase H500).

[@elirantuil5003]

Will you do the same for 5700? It's the much more cost effective option that I and I believe many others would prefer.

[@Orcawhale1]

Wouldn't make sense, as all the aib rx 5700 use the same cooler design as their XT models.

[@elirantuil5003]

@@Orcawhale1 I appear to be suffering from stupidity at the moment. Why does that mean it doesn't make sense? Obviously with the focus being the price finding the ultimate cheap 5700 would save a lot of people from buying bad cheap 5700 cards. The results won't necessarily carry over from the xt test as the silicon is worse and a cooling solution which does the job for the xt won't necessarily do the same for a 5700 with xt bios that isn't intended and tested to work at those frequencies.

[@Orcawhale1]

​@@elirantuil5003 Yeah it would. RX 5700 is a "defective" XT, the Silicon is exactly the same. The only difference is in power output due to fully enabled chip on the XT. Nor does it have anything to do with bios.

[@elirantuil5003]

@@Orcawhale1 I probably didn't explain myself well enough. I meant buying 5700 only to flash it with xt bios in order to remove the cap. This would essentially make it unbinned 5700xt, which may run hotter and consume more power to get to 5700xt like performance than a standard 5700xt. Which begs the question: can these cheaper cooling solutions handle it? The more expensive aib models probably can, but can the cheap ones do it as well? I think it is worth testing.

[@Orcawhale1]

​@@elirantuil5003 Again, yes they most certainly can. As boardpartners arn't designing a entirely new cooler just for that card(Unless were talking extremely high end cards like Lightning).

[@bigtastymacron9341]

Videos like this one are so damn helpful if you have to decide for a version of the graphics card you want to buy! I really respect the work this video was for you!

[@far_tech5555]

I got sapphire pulse and it is good.

[@dodsdods8542]

I am thinking about buying it but i don't know which psu should I buy to handle this card So can you tell what's yours

[@far_tech5555]

@@dodsdods8542 550 watt psu should be fine.

[@dodsdods8542]

Thx ❤️ Btw is the drivers stable Does it crash in any game Or did you face black screen or anything unusual ?

[@far_tech5555]

@@dodsdods8542I had BS a few times, but after a certain driver version, it is completely gone. The driver is pretty stable. I played a lot with the card and I can say crashing is very very rare. But, at this time, i probably consider 3060ti at this price range if you could find one.5700xt around 400$ is not a worthy card anymore.

[@dodsdods8542]

@@far_tech5555 in egypt its a different story the 3060 ti is sold at 650us dollars !!! am not even kidding so its a big no from me

[@joeochenski6563]

Just bought a 5700xt red devil ! Absolutely love it so far. Picked it up for 419.99 $ at microcenter

[@DanielWW2]

Finally a Red Dragon XT review. Suspicions are confirmed, the Red Dragon is good.

[@bx6p166]

DaniëlWW2 which is better nitro + or red dragon

[@lordovhunger666]

@@bx6p166 nitro+ but it costs more

[@mitchellanderson1120]

Just bought my Gigabyte Rx 5700 xt OC from Currys for £380. Got really lucky as I picked one of the best models. Best cooling and lowest fan noise and it had the highest FPS in one of the benchmarked games. Can’t beat the price too!

[@nenorii3234]

Thank you for this. AsRock Challenger is one of most cheapest cards in my country so i really needed this to see if it's worth it.

[@abesmissioncontrol2013]

THANK YOU for making a video evaluating these cheaper models.

[@antraxbeta23]

So happy i bought my red dragon 5700xt for 354euros :D PS: the red dragon shares the same pcb as the red devil

[@0Foxhound]

Thanks for your time and money doing this review. it sure did help me selecting wich gpu i should go for. Looks like i'll be taking my vertical mount out of the case and going for a bigger card. Once again thanks very much

[@sergiomadureira9985]

Dont forget to remove the RTX cards from the background shelves 😂😂

[@monarch-black]

Challenge accepted. Gigabyte Gaming OC is ordered and on the way! Not a huge performance jump from my Strix Vega 64, but a huge reduction in power/heat inside my case. I have a Crystal 570 case as well, and the glass side actually gets hot to the touch on demanding games.

[@ZDY66666]

Oh would you look at that! Another video from my *favourite KZbinr, *"RX 5700 Unboxed"* 😂😂😂(I'm joking guys)

[@1leggeddog]

I bought the Power Color red dragon because it was one of the only cards that fits 2 slots and thats all i have room for in my mini-itx system. And so far, it's been great and quiet, i didnt even have to touch the fan curve yet in my Node 304!

[@RogerTsai1991]

Next review: 5700 non-XT

[@grapeboi9256]

Yeah I don't see any reason to actually get an xt only 20% more power at most

[@nickyb45896]

@@grapeboi9256 20% for 40$ is so worth it

[@grapeboi9256]

@@nickyb45896 but yeah if I'm gonna get an xt though it's gonna be a red devil or sapphire nitro plus. Those cards are too damn sexy

[@mehmetsahin3159]

One of the most comprehensive tests. Thank you.

[@Lvcian_Guardian]

I was actually looking forward to that TUF model....pity.

[@Oz-gv5fz]

This video save your wallet thou

[@RangerBadger19]

I just bought a Powercolor RX 5700XT Red Dragon , and i am very happy with my purchase... I bought it after viewing this video... Good job

[@TheXev]

13:37 B"UT BUTZ U HAZ NVIDIA BOX ON SHELF!? SHRILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL *foams at mouth and passes out*

[@unitcharles689]

Clearly the sapphire card is the best performer under temps and clock. That being said, should have some headroom for OC. Thank you for the breakdown of temps for the line up. Very helpful for any enthusiast! I salute you guys over at hardware unboxed. More videos like this please! Straight to the point. I like how you aren't bought like some reviewers and keep companies on their toes sending anything your way. Good job.

[@dekaaizer2550]

Great, here in Europe the cheapest you can get is 450 EURO. Oh we love geopricing.

[@frickzjee]

some stores are trying to get rid of the THICC and they discounted it like 100 Euros lmao (its now 450 euros instead of 540) still insane prices tho

[@cameron8344]

In Germany 380€

[@siriusargus6766]

Yeah the thicc 2 (non Ultra) ist 389€ in Germany, i think i'll get one. Its the cheapest, even cheaper than Blower reference. Just undervolt the crap Out of it and save the 20mhz for 40Watts

[@TheDarknessOfGames]

Ebay

[@dekaaizer2550]

@@TheDarknessOfGames eBay ain't working that well in Europe plus you won't find any new cards there. (Oh and the pricess still succ).

[@meller7303]

After doing a lot of research I purchased the red dragon last week. Happy to see you like it as well!

[@Lnly-]

Are u having problems with it? I wanna buy it as well

[@meller7303]

Dinu Vladeanu haven’t had a problem in the 5 months! What apps/games are you planning on running on the GPU?

[@Lnly-]

@@meller7303 rdr2,pubg, metro exodus, aoe 3. And some other stuff

[@meller7303]

Dinu Vladeanu gonna run that all perfectly. As an example I can get 100+FPS on ultra in Modern Warfare. The only thing I’d mention is IF you plan on streaming, AMD doesn’t have as good of a built in encoder and Nvidia’s NVENC. Probably worth forking the extra 50-100 bucks for a 2070 super in that case. If you aren’t streaming, you literally can’t beat the 5700 xt for value/performance. I’m super happy with mine

[@Lnly-]

@@meller7303 yesss Im no streamer. I play for myself :)))

[@joelrivera6824]

Sapphire Pulse 🥰

[@adelaghbar1843]

do u have a Sapphire Pulse rx5700xt what about its performance and temperature ?

[@joelrivera6824]

@@adelaghbar1843 I do have one, I've had it for about two months now and It's been great so far. It stays pretty cool and isn't loud at all. I haven't run into any problems with it at all, the performance is also great. I paired it with an r5 3600 and I'm able to play pretty much any game I want at high to max settings at 2560 x 1440p with ease. Definitely recommend if you are on the fence.

[@CharlesVanNoland]

I just had a Red Dragon for 10 days and it went ahead and took a shit. PC froze while it was just idling by itself for about an hour, came back to find desktop frozen. Rebooted and POS wouldn't post anymore. Mobo diagnostic indicated GPU was the issue. Put in a different GPU and it posted just fine. Tried all kinds of stuff - swapping around PSU cables, plugging them into different spots on the PSU, etc... no dice.. Sending it back tomorrow. Some other guy on Reddit says that in the last month he's had two PowerColor RX 5700 XT's die on him, rather quickly I might add.

[@elyon2966]

My very first card for a custom build was an ATI Radeon 1650X pro back in AGP era. It was a Sapphire one. Man, it looks like Im a fanboy but Sapphire never disapointed me.

[@Palabrota]

Great roundup. Thanks for putting this together.

[@prophetnozza4150]

I got the Mech for a Christmas present for someone yesterday in the UK, it must be one of the last of the 5700xt's for sale in the land, I'm surprised the shop still has stock in this model for 3 days now, cant see them lasting much longer

[@rbtoca]

I'm between the Sapphire's Pulse and Nitro. They seem the best all rounders. The PowerColor's cards are right next to the Sapphire's too but Mexico does not sell them :(. Gigabyte is a bit more expensive than the Sapphire Nitro even, so with this facts in mind... I guess we have a winner for this holiday... Thank you Steve!!

[@shadowkora]

Definitely buy Nitro+, it's an awesome card. In fact I've got one RX 5700 XT Nitro+ myself.

[@benzost920]

The 5700 XT's seem to have gotten all the attention, but what about the 5700 non-XT-models? The performance per dollar between the 5700 and 5700 XT is about equal, but the non-XT models have the advantage of not consuming as much power, and therefore should probably also run cooler and quieter. I would be interested in how these 5700 XT's match up against their equivalent non-XT counterparts in terms of performance, noise, and temperature, because I have noticed that the physical appearance between either model is identical.

[@RGInquisitor]

Last week I was just about to buy the Nitro+ but when I searched for it on Amazon I saw a MSI Gaming X for $409.99 new with Prime shipping. I got that ASAP and its been working fantastic so far! Its big boy, and I had to plug in another PCI-E cable from my PSU, but its cool, quiet, and shreds any game I've thrown at it. I didn't get the 3 months of game pass or Borderlands 3 though, so that's a bummer.

[@BitByteTechs]

I actually have another that you could review and looks like it's flown under the radar! You could be the first to review the Powercolor AXRX 5700 XT. I just purchased it at MicroCenter for $360 before tax. So far, I am quite impressed.

[@nukedathlonman]

Something you should note: XFX tweaked the heat sink design on the 5700 XT THICC II cards (they also now have a three fanned THICC III ULTRA). XFX is apparently offering a free heatsink upgrade for THICC II owners as well (according to an article I seen on Hothardware 3 days ago). Welcome! :-)

[@gimbydude491]

Excellent coverage my friend, your community is forever grateful!!

[@marcomongke3116]

The Red Dragon is overall strong with 5700xt It seems!

[@str33tkng]

I have the reference powercolor 5700xt. If you have awesome cooling with a blower card from a good company, you won't have a single problem. I have the corsair carbide air 540 which is a hell of a case for air flow and cable management!!!

[@unit1738]

Thanks to the coverage by this channel and Steve from Gamers Nexus, I picked up a Gigabyte 5700xt and I am thoroughly satisfied with the performance. Long time viewer and pc enthusiast and content like this keeps me coming back for more.

[@antonschaf4088]

A complete shopping guide for the RX 5700XT. Future generations will be grateful. They can watch your Video and decide which used card to buy. I wish someone had done this with Cards like the GTX 460, the GTX 570, the GTX 750 Ti or the GTX 970. Nice nice nice. Thank you Steve!

[@lorenzosetola9322]

Is it actually better than an rtx 2060s? I've read about a lot of people having BSOD, crashes and many different issues with the rx 5700xt, it makes about 10 to 15 fps more than 2060s but i prefer a gpu that works fine, especially with Destiny 2 that is my main game