Radeon RX 5700 XT vs. 7700 XT, 2024 Revisit

[@Hardwareunboxed]

Please note there is a mistake with the RX 6600 results in CP2077, will fix for future content.

[@puddles5501]

my 5700xt crashes constantly on any recent driver.

[@inGameweTrusted]

14:46 Because Msi after burner..Close Afterburner :) Frame generation will work :)

[@boniek9698]

and 2070 too?

[@antimatter7683]

noticed that and was initially confused xD thanks for the video Steve and congrats on hitting 1 million

[@gamingunboxed5130]

​@@inGameweTrusted upscaling or frame gen?

[@jorybrown6714]

Had the 5700xt for a few years. upgraded to the 7900xt during black Friday. Gave my brother in law the 5700xt to retire his gtx 1060. What an upgrade for both of us

[@pvtcmyers87]

Dang no kidding!

[@FluxStage]

That sounds like a nice boost!

[@ValkisCalmor]

Exactly the same story here except my 5700XT replaced my girlfriend's 970. Finally got into high-refresh 1440p with the 7900XT, but for someone who's still on a 1080p/60Hz display the 5700XT is holding up beautifully.

[@mukkah]

loved this comment

[@TerraWare]

I had an RX 580 4GB, upgraded to 5700XT, double the performancr, double the vram, than 6800XT, almost double the performwnce double the vram, than 7900XTX almost double the performance, 50% more vram. I think 50% more performance at least is a good upgrade, double ideal.

[@leoariasyt]

AMD really made two lengendary PC Gaming parts: Ryzen 5 3600 & Radeon RX 5700 XT

[@rattlehead999]

Same with the rx 6600 non-xt, rx 6700 xt, rx 6800 non-xt. All of them are instant classics.

[@marrow94]

And in fact it’s roughly how PS5 performance (the console is better by a small margin). It’s the sweet spot.

[@raceowl]

I think you forgot the 5800X3D here.

[@DragonOfTheMortalKombat]

​@@raceowl was about to mention that, 3600 is nowhere near as legendary as 5800x3D

[@vulcantechtips2826]

​@@raceowl 3600 being a budget beast while 5800x3d was expensive at launch

[@lukevirtualgameruk3523]

The card was awesome I just upgraded to the 7800xt the 5700 xt still handle most things.

[@mukkah]

Bruh am eyeing the 7800XT for next upgrade (rockin' RX 6600 atm in family PC). 670$ CDN atm, if it comes down to 600$ someday will be hard not to pull the trigger lol

[@lukevirtualgameruk3523]

@@mukkah I got the gigabyte 7800 xt for around 540 here in the uk and changed my 3700x to the 5800x 3d no need to upgrade to am5 at the moment awesome card.

[@mukkah]

@@lukevirtualgameruk3523 yeye man, still got a 5600 cpu, somewhere down the road 5800X3D for sure ^^ 540 in UK is great price, my dude!

[@lukevirtualgameruk3523]

@@mukkah I agree you can get the 7900 gre for around 550 so probably why.

[@syncmonism]

@@mukkah prices should come down more when new generation mid-range cards are released, if not a little before then, which will be in less than a year for sure. Prices usually do come down a fair bit around Black Friday if not a few weeks before.

[@MrZuriax]

Proud five year 5700xt owner here. Still holding out for an actual upgrade that won't cost me $1000+ Hope RDNA4 is the ticket.

[@K31TH3R]

Look into a grabbing a 6800 XT, you can often find them for just over $400. In late 2023 I bought a Liquid Devil 6800 XT $416 ($459 after shipping), and with the ETH my 5700 XT mined, and the $180 I sold it for, for roughly $70 out of pocket I have a card that is often over 100% faster.

[@MrZuriax]

@@K31TH3R I appreciate the recommendation but after waiting so long I'm looking for something that will blow my current GPU performance out of the water. Everything in my current system has been refreshed in the last 6 months except for the GPU. Rocking a 7800x3D has given my current GPU just a bit more runway to wait for RDNA4.

[@thefilmdirector1]

@@MrZuriax the 6800xt is double the performance of a 5700xt, how much more blown out of the water do you want it to be lmao. Even the 7700xt is 70 percent faster than what you have. Cant wait forever.......

[@hotdog9262]

@@thefilmdirector1 depend on how much the the guy need it and how long he plan to keep it.. afaik they don`t provide good driver support forever. personally as of now, having a 5700xt ill wait for 8800xt. real world tests will decide

[@tiagoneves8072]

i understand what you are saying about the performance you expect from a GPU till you plan to change your 5700xt, however, if you wait too long, when the time come, you will be buying a great GPU but already have outdated CPU. So, if you already spent on that AM5 system, i believe you should get a new GPU asap so you can "take profit" from the system. I also have a 3600x paired with a 5700xt as my main PC and it keeps pulling some good FPS (yesterday was able to run the new Delta Force on Ultra @ 1440p with around 100 FPS).

[@88-bit-tech]

Another note, Helldivers 2 doesn't use FSR. It has it's own built-in upscaler that is significantly worse than fsr, dlss, or xess.

[@christian50111]

That's true. I use RSR (internally it uses some version of FSR) with this game instead of the built-in upscaler and it looks much better and also it runs with higher fps. I recommend this approach for all AMD users instead of the native upscaler until they add true FSR.

[@GoonyMclinux]

Yeah, running native looks much better. But the game isn't all that heavy for newer GPUs so no reason to run limp home mode.

[@TheSometimeAfter]

​@@christian50111wtf is RSR?

[@hak116]

​@@TheSometimeAfteramd radeon super resolution. It's an amd driver based upscaler, can be used in any game, though I think it's not as good as fsr upscaling

[@PCBUILDBG]

@@TheSometimeAfter Radeon Super Resolution (RSR) is an in-driver upscaling feature that uses the same algorithm found in AMD FidelityFX Super Resolution (FSR) technology. Gamers can take advantage of Radeon Super Resolution technology to unleash new levels of performance on any compatible game. AMD words. It's basiclly driver level FSR1. Similar to how AFMF is driver level Frame Generation. Not perfect, but not particularly bad either.

[@antares202]

Seeing those benchmarks, I think I'm going to hold on to my 5700 XT until RDNA 4.

[@hundrds1283]

Yeah I feel the same way, will be close to double the performance then and that will feel like a worthwhile upgrade

[@PiCh62]

Same, I'm playing older games or not demanding recents games like Persona 3 Reload. And it's not like recents AAA games like Suicide Squad, Avatar or Skull & Bones (sorry it's AAAA), makes me want to upgrade pretty soon. I can wait until RDNA 4.

[@ulamss5]

at this point you might as well.... seeing these benchmarks or not... clearly over a year of this generation's existence hasn't convinced you yet.

[@TheLoki1983]

​@@hundrds1283 same. But priorities may mean it may be till the used market brings those prices down.

[@TheAddanz]

yep me also, the 5700xt at 1440p/60hz is still really capable in every game I play, the driver improvements have boosted the cards performance a LOT over the years. I bought an ASUS reference design for US$379 , along with a Full cover GPU Bykski water block for about $60 off aliexpress ....zero regrets , this card has been FANTASTIC, it also benefitted a lot from the 5900x CPU upgrade from the original 3700x i had. Couldnt be happier with the thing,,,when i do eventually replace it ill still keep it in use on another system. Its extremely solid

[@gamernerd7139]

Got a 5700XT running on my wife's computer. Great card. She uses it mostly for CAD. Well worth the money spent.

[@KomradeMikhail]

You forgot to mention the Used market... 5700XT can often be found for under $100 USD. Even a few remanufactured aliexpress flash sales dip below $100 now.

[@Dakhanavar99]

I actually bought a 5700XT Red Devil Edition about 4 months ago to replace my sons R9 280X for 75€ . Trying to find also something similar to me to replace my R9 Fury OC.

[@Damnboii134]

75 euros is crazy must be a mining card but how is it working till now lmk please I'm getting similar deal and doubt it's a mining card too​@@Dakhanavar99

[@speng5821]

Lets not forget that many original 5700xt owners upgraded to a 6700xt for free in the crypto mining boom. 5700xt was a beast mining card that meant it's street price in the crazy days was the same as 6700xt. When people were paying over a grand for a 3070, I essentially picked up a 6700xt to no extra cost from my original £400 5700xt. This is what truely cements the 5700xt as legendary status imo

[@deviouslaw]

RIP, sold to the mines!

[@Radirkacsa1]

It was the business of the decade for me. After 2 years of using I sold the 5700XT for more than i bought,yet had to pay about 140 $ more for the 6700XT. 2 weeks after the market chrashed.

[@FEARmeify]

I mined ETH while I had it, made about 0.38 (1135 USDish right now), sold it towards the end of the boom and bought a new 6700xt for a bit less. It truly was a great card.

[@antraxbeta23]

​@Radirkacsa1 yeah sold mine for 900euros, added 300 more and got a rtx3080

[@TheAddanz]

6800XT was the swap...5700xt was about $1000 usd at peak prices and purchased for $379

[@flirkyn1661]

My 5700XT Nitro + lasted me quite a bit. It had a rough begining but it really aged well. I've upgraded it for 7800XT Nitro+ last September (which I don't regret), but it was still holding up quite a bit. Really great card

[@manuelhernandez2017]

Sapphire nitro IS the best version, still have my 6900xt nitro+, amazing card for the price

[@TheRealSkeletor]

@@manuelhernandez2017 Not for the 5700 XT. XFX made the best version, with the THICC III Ultra. Nitro+ was a close second though.

[@cxngo8124]

I just bought my 7700xt hellhound for 400. What a deal. The fans almost never spin.

[@vitgerivaz]

I bought a 5700 just before the coof, and i got a specific version of the card, the powercolor red dragon! the reason was because that specific model of the 5700 had the EXACT same pcb as the 5700xt, down to the same ammount of power phases. I immediately flashed the performance bios to the 5700xt bios. And that's how i got a super cheap 5700xt that i'm still rocking to this day. zero crashes, zero instability, auto overclocks to 2074mhz core clock via the adrenalin software. Since I barely play any AAA games, I am still playing everything at high settings with very high framerates. One of the last games I 100%'d was Forza Horizon 4. Medium settings at 1440p while streaming, 144 fps locked. Maybe I'll buy an upgrade on the next gen from AMD. depending on how good the 8700xt is or something.

[@itsyaboikirbo]

thats super interesting, would have thought there would have been differences between them

[@vitgerivaz]

@@itsyaboikirbo normally that's the case but this was the exception, the only difference between the cards was the bios. Which explains why my card has had 0 crashes in 5 years with the bios flash.

[@mukkah]

Bruh this was an awesome comment lol Nice job riggin' that 5700 into an XT, man did his dang research thorough for this purchase XD Really helps to make smart moves as a consumer these days ^_^ ~a random canadian subscriber dude

[@yensteel]

Got the 5700 XT red dragon as well, it was really performant for a 2 slot card. Only messed with the memory timings.

[@bornonthebattlefront4883]

I’m waiting for the 8700xt as well, hopefully it hits around the Rx 7900gre in performance, would be a nice upgrade, as long as it doesn’t use more then 220 watts as well

[@po1odo1o]

Really enjoyed this one, especially the gameplay bit. Variety of resolutions, quality settings and upscaling/FG to get the best out of the card, great work. Interesting, entertaining, great production, probably my fave HUB video this year

[@DrathVader]

I got a reference 5700XT shortly after launch. I upgraded to a 7800XT mostly for ray tracing. It was still performing perfectly fine for 1080p, and with the GN washer mod + good thermal paste it was running relatively cool and quiet. Very good value card.

[@blackmennewstyle]

I still remember when that GPU was released, man time really flies ✈

[@RileyCP]

Congratulations on 1m subs

[@vigilant_1934]

Yeah I've been watching HUB for about 4 years back when they had maybe 400k-500k. They hit the million mark back in January I think.

[@antonyhermens9985]

I would rather have the RX 6800 non-XT than the 7700 XT. I think its cheaper, 16 GB and about the same power usage . Thank you for the revisit Steve .💯

[@leonardo.muricy]

In most countries it's pretty hard to find an rx 6800. In Brazil I can only find used ones

[@Fortzon]

6800/6800 xt is basically gone from the store shelves so there are not many options.

[@s3rg11]

@@leonardo.muricy I upgraded from rx460 to used rx580 and then to used rx6800 and never had a problem.

[@vigilant_1934]

A new 6800 was still $400+ when I last checked about a month ago and that's if you can find it.

[@kaizel2264]

I'd still get the 7700XT as it is more efficient and has a better encoder like AV1

[@Caal9]

In my personal repair experience, I had a multitude of 5700XTs come through my shop with paste that was bone dry on CERTAIN board partner cards. AMD had a multitude of growing pains with that card, and the fact the hotspot hit 110C frequently did not help their sales originally. While it had an incredible amount of power, it handled it with their cooling solutions poorly much of the time with a 250 ish watt TDP

[@zekezander]

I got the 5700 XT back in late 2019, just a few months before the crypto boom that started in 2020. I kept it until last year when I picked up the 7900XT. I got it for $720 around July. I saw it drop to that point a few months prior, but I didn't have the spare cash at the time. I kept an eye on it so that the next time it was well under $800 I jumped on it. So I ran that card about three and a half years. Not a super long life, but considering I spend $420 on it when the 2070 non super was going for $500 and up, I think I did alright. I also did just enough mining to pay for the card and cover my power bill in the winter. Basically just ran it to help keep my apartment warm but also kinda pay for itself for the winters of '20 and '21. I gave that card and my 3800X to a friend that never got into PC gaming. :)

[@deceivedonegaming6105]

Have saphire pulse still 5y going strong for about 350euros at the time Think ill stay with it for a bit more maybe somethinf like 7800xt or 7900gre At the time baseline 2070 was 130euros more glad i chose right

[@rothgartheviking858]

I have nitro version and its still runs great. Has been a fantastic card.

[@surfingkoala35]

Had my rx5700xt for almost 5 years now. (Thanks Steve for finally giving it some love) Was my first AMD card and I don't think I can go back to Nvidia now. He brings up a good point though... is it worth upgrading to a new card when the rx5700xt runs most things at 60fps or above. I think I need more reason to upgrade than just an extra 30 fps I'm not going to notice. The only compelling game I have to make me want to upgrade is Alan Wake 2. (Looks nervously over at FF7 Rebirths PC release schedule...)

[@thefilmdirector1]

You double your fps in pretty much every game, the charts in the video show this, and yes it makes a world of difference when you are on a high refresh panel. You also get RT, and its not wimpy at RT either, im talking 60 fps RT on high settings in Witcher 3 and 2077.

[@andersjjensen]

@@thefilmdirector1 I went from a 6700XT to an XTX, but stayed on 1440p monitors, because I figured I wanted to start playing with RT... Uh... what a disappointment. The only game I own where I'm really impressed is Cyberpunk. Sure, most UE5 games look better with global illumination, but nothing earth shattering, so I can certainly appreciate why many refuse to pay "the RT tax".

[@tyrecies]

Nice video. still rocking my 5700xt. Video card market prices are still junk, I am going to wait

[@filipin.c4628]

Eu Tmb tenho Rx 5700 e considero ela Boa ...

[@joekoch8485]

Great! Let’s see how it stacks up! Thank you for all your hard work and fantastic testing!

[@mattg8888]

My buddy still has his running and it is doing really well with FSR @1440p. No rush to upgrade at the moment. He wants to keep it going for at least another year and then....well we`ll see what prices are like then, but a good 1440p card will be needed.

[@gerrie5014787]

Only recently upgraded from my 5700 XT. Man that thing has legs, I was consistently surprised by it's performance. Especially this year. It just kept on trucking!

[@danielcoles1989]

Nice video. Its nice to have a 'positive' video. Looking forward to the next few vids :)

[@spacechannelfiver]

I upgraded mine last year to the 7900XT, an upgrade in monitor resolution from 1440p to 4k prompted that. It was a cracking card; but selling it wasn't viable during the pandemic / mining boom as there was a lack of replacements readily available on the market and I wasn't keen on not being able to use my computer for an extended period.

[@christian50111]

I've always upgraded the GPU when you can get double the performance at the same price. Sadly 5 years later we arent there due to stagnation in the GPU market. I will definitely wait for the next generation, the 5700XT with OC and undervolt still works awesome for almost all games even at 1440p, you always can upgrade for the fun of upgrading but it doesnt look like a real need for gaming.

[@TheUltraMinebox]

You could justify a 7800 xt with inflation and added value tho. 16 gigs and 4070+ performance

[@oneeasterneuropean9299]

@@TheUltraMinebox Exactly why I upgrade to a 7900gre when my 5700XT bit the dust a few weeks back. *technically* it's like 30% more expensive than what I paid for the 5700XT back in 2019, but that 30% price hike is still lower than that of my grocery list compared to back then as well. A 7800XT or 7900GRE are now well worth the upgrade, *if* you need it. I would have kept my 5700XT for a while yet, as FSR got "good enough" to be worth the visual hit, and I was perfectly fine with getting 80-100FPS in most non-competitive games, or even around 60 if they didn't require any rapid inputs. Hopefully I can get 5 years out of the 7900GRE. We'll see if it gets the same performance bump with time that the 5700XT got since launch.

[@vigilant_1934]

It's not stagnation. The 7700XT is a proper uplift over the 6700XT with 54 CUs vs. 40CUs. The 6700XT is a bit better than the 5700XT with the same amount of CUs but the biggest difference is the extra VRAM (12GB vs 8GB). You can't expect a 100% performance increase until 3 generations later. Tim did a whole video on GPUs and price to performance and what average consumers expect before upgrading. 30% increase after 1 gen, 50% increase after 2 gens and 100% price to performance increase after 3 generations and this was based on Hardware Unboxed polls. The 7700XT gives you over 60% improvement in 2 generations which is great at the midrange where performance isn't pushed as hard the high end. Either way, it's only 4.5 years since the 5700XT was released and RDNA 4 isn't out yet. Around the 5 year mark we should have an 8700XT that gives you that double performance. The 5700XT was never really supposed to be $400 (I think AMD was gonna make it $499 until Nvidia announced the Super series with lower prices) and I'm not 100% sure how much the assumed 8700XT will cost but I still expect it to be $450-$500. If it has the performance increase and 16GB of VRAM I might get it to upgrade my placeholder 6700XT. If it is the top die for RDNA 4 (which is rumored to be similar to RDNA 1 meaning no high end GPUs) than it might have an even bigger performance increase if AMD hits their targets.

[@DDHDTV]

Techncially, if you bought it for 400 in 2019, then now that would be $488 in 2024. So the cost of a 7800XT

[@df3yt]

7800xt...at what power cost. I want double the speed without a huge power increase. I used a 7800 for a week and decided I'll stick with the 5700xt until a proper replacement comes along.

[@skywalkerjedi95]

The timing on this video was perfect for me. I picked up an RX 5700XT for $100 off marketplace and its been serving me really well at 1080p. My local micro center has an open box Hellhound 7700XT for $329 and I wasn't sure whether I was missing out on not getting the 7800XT. Thanks for this video!!

[@thefilmdirector1]

i jumped from 5700xt to 7700xt and im at 1080p 165hz. Go for that open box, its a 70 percent jump in performance, they arent even in the same league. Its pretty much the same jump you get going from 3060 to 3080.

[@ArdaSReal]

@@thefilmdirector1 why not upgrade to a 1440p monitor?

[@Mrsupermuuh]

Still running it, but just bought a 7900 GRE Nitro+

[@Michaeloboian]

Just grabbed a 770xt for $369 new from Amazon to upgrade from my 5700. Great video, thanks for continuing to do these looks back at older parts for those of us who can't or won't live on the cutting edge of every release cycle.

[@vladislavkaras491]

Thanks for all those benchmarks!

[@guildpilotone]

A very interesting revisit. I have two systems, one with a 6700XT and the other with a 6800... looking at the graphs left me feeling pretty good about the remaining usefulness of those two GPUs for the future, especially since I don't give a rip about RT and I don't stream.

[@PhillipLangenkamp]

What a coincidence! I think my 5700XT may be starting to die (weird things keep randomly happening with the screen resolution sometimes), so I was preparing myself to buy a replacement and was just thinking about this all last night. Really awesome to see that I made a pretty good choice when I bought it, and incredibly helpful to see what my upgrade options look like in comparison to what I have now! Thank you!

[@salted6422]

It might not be seated properly in the pcie port or the problem might be your display cable.

[@SAFFY7411]

Undervolt it, that might help with stability..

[@stepheng3378]

I recently switched back to 1080p for my two setups. Previously I had a 4K setup with a 3080 10Gb, and my 1080p had a 3060Ti. Sold both, and bought two used 5700xt's for what I sold the 3060ti alone. Used prices on RX5700XT's are stupid low for what you get. Paid just over $100 for a Powercolor , and about $30 more for a Sapphire Nitro + SE. For 1080p they are more than capable, and I do not miss ray tracing one bit. If you are playing at 1440 or higher, I'd step up to something better, but at 1080p it's a huge bargain for the $'s they sell for currently.

[@nevernicemeadow]

used rx 5700s have insanely good value here in germany too. Usually u get them for 60% or 50% of the price of a new 6600 (which itself is already a good value card). recently bought three 5700s for 120€, 110€ and 80€. One for my wife s PC replacing an RX 580, One for a new PC for my wife s brother and one for a PC flip.

[@b.8972]

I run 3600 / 5700xt combo with the AOC24G2. Hell I’ll probably keep them a couple more years. Honestly they’re beyond sufficient for 1080p gaming today.

[@filipin.c4628]

Jogos mais Novos estão uma Merda ...

[@johndoucette6085]

I got my 5700XT in late 2020 and I'm probably a year or two away from an upgrade (I usually try to go 5-6 years between upgrades). This was just the info I was looking for :) Great review, Steve! Exactly the kind of to the point, no BS info I've come to know and love from HU.

[@sgtmoose1942]

Raytracing is still snake oil.

[@gewdvibes]

Speak for yourself. Ray tracing when done right is fantastic

[@korosoid]

@@gewdvibes but none can run path tracing natively, even 4090 needs denoising

[@jessjs57]

I picked up an RX 5700xt this last holiday for a GREAT price to upgrade the hand-me-down PC my son uses for gaming. The R9 Fury was not cutting it in games and the 5700xt has been awesome. It is MUCH faster than his Xbox series S that he also plays. It still does the work!

[@wtfskilz]

I upgraded from GTX 1070 to 7900XT . The difference in titles like Alan Wake 2 or Last of us part 1 was tremendous. I actually upgraded my monitor shortly after, because I realized I didn't need to be getting 250 FPS in every game with maxed out settings.

[@QuentinStephens]

Cracking job there. Well done. With regards to testing older GPUs, the 1080 Ti has been done elsewhere so don't bother with it; rather, I'd like you to look at the previous generation, the Maxwell Titan, (and not the 980 Ti) because of the extra VRAM (12 GB vs 6 GB). Theoretically it should still be around the level of the RTX 3050 / RX 6600 / A750 - not bad for a nine year old card if it's correct. But is it? We eagerly await your results.

[@w00t692]

I wanted to comment about the statement at the end about Alan Wake 2 and mesh shading. They recently fixed the non mesh shading fallback path. Had they not taken the time to do that the 5700xt's performance would've been in the teen's for fps like it was at release.

[@attilagrasl]

NOpe ! IM still playing the launch version of alan wake 2 on a 5700xt and it runs just fine. over 30 fps all the time. mostly around 40-50 fps range. CPU is xeon 2699v3 and 96gb ram. it runs smooth.

[@geofrancis2001]

@@attilagrasl I just upgraded to the ryzen 7600 from a turbo unlocked dual 2699v3, its so much faster, I was getting bad stutters at the start of fortnite with the xeon but its all smooth with the 7600. The xeons have been repurposed into a AI training rig with a pair of Tesla P40 GPUs.

[@attilagrasl]

@@geofrancis2001 who cares nobody playes fortnite, im talkin bout alan wake 2. btw you was getting stutters because you clearly just didnt have enough ram. lame.

[@geofrancis2001]

@@attilagrasl lol its a dual 2699v3 with 128gb of ddr4. All core turbo unlocked to 3.6ghz It just lacks single threaded performance so struggles with modern games. My 6 core 7600 is over twice as fast single threaded and almost matches a single 18 core on multithread

[@moroumenos]

Thanks for this vid. I got my 5700xt Sapphire Pulse back in January 2020, right before GPU prices spiked. I'm still rocking it and it is undoubtedly the best component I purchased for my PC. It's nice to see it's still rocking nearly 5 years after its initial release. I'm looking to upgrade from next gen, so I'm guessing for the 8700xt or 8800xt.

[@Tomiply]

The thumbnail makes it look like somebody is holding his family hostage lol

[@fuzzylumpkins6034]

You fingers will start turning into power cables as much testing as you do. Cheers for this. We still have the RX5700xt (MSI) and a 1080Ti that have been passed down to the kids pcs and we can confirm both GPUs perform amazing for the games they are used for and both are paired with R5 5600 CPUs. Slightly overpowered cards for a 6 and 9 year old but will both be staying in the family as they both upgrade to current architecture as their needs change.

[@justeddm]

Literally how I'm planning to survive with my rx 7900 gre .. skipping this coming generation

[@perceptixn]

Same! Which model of gre you have? I have pure and it’s a beast in performance and looks.

[@justeddm]

@@perceptixn power colour hellhound

[@GoonyMclinux]

I pimp the hellhound gre, fantastic card for sure.​@@justeddm

[@TheGuilty11]

I build my current first fully AMD setup since early 2000's in 2019 with 3700X and 5700 XT. Now i'm planning to upgrade the whole thing this year with 7800X3D + 7800XT or 7900 GRE. Might wait with GPU to the end of the year or early next year though since flagship RTX 5xxx series is rumored to come out by end of this year and i might want to see what AMD brings

[@GoonyMclinux]

How my comment get deleted? 🤣 KZbin is weird.

[@shortiewaswo]

I'm consistently impressed by the range and depth of videos you guys share. There always seems to be just the right video to answer my PC building questions. great work as always!!

[@AKK5I]

the 1080ti of the 5700xt in the 4090 era

[@WamblyHades]

The 1080ti is truly the 1080ti of the Pascal era

[@Eleganttf2]

Lol how dare you compare the 5700 XT (especially with how horrible the RDNA1 architecture in it itself since they cut alot of features for future compatibility and is only a skipping stone generation) to the great 1080 Ti and before you amd fanboys berate me atleast AMD make it up by delivering the great RDNA2

[@pR0ManiacS]

That should be 6800 imo neck in neck with 6700xt. I will consider 3080 also If it drops in price in used market. If You can Catch a 330 -350 dollars. Not destroyed 3080 i will take it as good gpu.

[@mercurio822]

@@Eleganttf2 1080ti is the most overrated GPU of all time.

[@rattlehead999]

@@Eleganttf2 RDNA1 was great what are you talking about?

[@spectra_xfx]

I upgraded from a 5700xt strix to a 7700xt phantom gaming OC. I do wish I could have gotten the 7800xt for a bit more oomf. But neither of these cards are slouches by any means, very happy with the upgrade.

[@tensorup6595]

So you were only benchmarking these old/cross gen games and just "in game testing" the new ones? I'm sorry but what's the point of that? I was expecting a benchmark of Avatar, Ratchet, Horizon, Alan Wake 2, Immortals etc in a benchmark list. Those are by far the most interesting because some of them use Raytracing by default or DX12 Ultimate features like Mesh Shading. Why did you not put them in the benchmark list and just gave these games "in game testing"? I wanted to see how the 5700XT performs relative compared to the newer GPUs and the Turing GPUs there which should be the entire point of the video. A bit disappointed to be honest.

[@justfun5479]

Yeah, I noticed that too. This video doesn't seem very objective, at least that's what I perceived.

[@smurfjegeren9739]

Alan Wake 2 has been looked at by so many on older cards. If not comparing them, theres no point in saying that the 5700XT still wont run Alan Wake 2. The point of upgrading to the 7700xt/4070 still stands, without beating that dead horse

[@tensorup6595]

@@smurfjegeren9739 But it got new patches. And it would not have hurt to include the game that is the most technically advanced one so far in a video about how the 5700XT performs today. Benchmarks of Resident Evil 4, Spiderman, Forza and all the others are not worth anything anymore IMO as we already know how these games perform and they are cross gen ganes. They simply should have been excluded and replaced by the new titles.

[@justfun5479]

@@tensorup6595 Exactly. You can test cross gen games if you want, but he shouldnt have done a comparison with ONLY cross gen titles.

[@renrutxela]

I got my 3900x with a 5700xt and had all of the issues in the early days. crashes, black screens multiple times per gaming session. i like how the software has progress and am very happy with stability and performance. i'm waiting for a half decent chiplet style graphics card and 12+ core chip to go with it. i'd be interested to see how x570 and 3900x handle a newer card.

[@rattlehead999]

The 7800 XT is the proper successor to the RX 5700 XT since both are full chips, the RX 7700 XT is the successor to the RX 5600 XT.

[@TheUltraMinebox]

Huh. Both look like nice upgrades with double the vram for each counterpart

[@CaptainKenway]

That isn't true at all. Whether something is a fully-enabled chip or not doesn't dictate its place in the product stack. A 4060 Ti uses a fully-enabled GPU, whereas the 3060 Ti didn't, yet that doesn't make it the successor to the 3070 Ti (which did). A fairer way to look at things is die size, ROPs and CUs, and the 5700 XT only has 64 ROPs and 40 CUs on a 251mm2 die, versus the 96 ROPs and 54 CUs of the 7700 XT and its 346mm2 die. They're simply not in the same class, despite the product naming. The 7600 XT would be closest to a 5700 XT in the current stack, since it also has 64 ROPs, although only 32CUs on a 204mm2 die. It's also a fully-enabled Navi 33 chip, so would meet your criteria too, though the reality is that the 5700 XT doesn't quite match anything in the current stack because there's no 40 CU equivalent. RDNA 1 was a weird generation where AMD abandoned the high end entirely, so it doesn't mesh well with the RDNA 3 stack that competes all the way up to the 4080 (Super).

[@rattlehead999]

@@CaptainKenway The 4060Ti(188mm^2) is the successor to the rtx 3050(198mm^2 cut down from 276mm^2). Hell you could say it's the successor to the RTX 3050 6GB which is 200mm^2. The RX 5700 XT has 251mm^2 die size as a monolith on 7nm, but the RX 7800 XT has 200mm^2 die size on 5nm at 151 Million transistors per mm^2, while the cache 4x 36mm^2 is at 50 Mt/mm^2 on 6nm, if it was all on 5nm it would be 4x 12mm^2 = 48mm^2 + 200mm^2 = 248mm^2. RDNA1 was what all generations should be, although it was missing a ~350mm^2 RX 5800 XT.

[@rattlehead999]

@@TheUltraMinebox Yes they are, but the price is a bit higher than it should be on both.

[@andersjjensen]

@@rattlehead999 You know just enough to argue a solid case for a wrong conclusion :P Navi1 is on the last DUV node, which made the wafer cost manageable. EUV is expensive, and that has translated to such elevated wafer prices that the per-transistor cost went UP despite it being a full 70% density shrink for 5nm. It's not until 4nm that the transistor count reached parity with 7nm. So expecting to get the same die size for the same money, with a wafer cost increase and an inflation spike, pretty much translates to saying "I expect AMD to be a charity and not a company".

[@SiriuslyDaniel]

I have a 5700XT reference, my current want for an upgrade is the 7800XT. Thank you for the video.

[@yoavzehavi8793]

SEEING MY RTX 4070 ONTOP IS NICE RELIEF FOR YEARS TO COME

[@oskarieeva2326]

well yes but its the most expensive

[@Daniel_Z35]

Those 12GB will definetaly not be a relief in years to come

[@Nelthalin]

its also way more expensive.....

[@Ralipsi]

ITs nice to see that this GPU is still a viable option for 1080p. Almost any game released before 2023 are easily playable. And there are plenty of those games out there. At that price range, this GPU is still a viable option if we dont play the latest titles.

[@jayco6419]

As someone who waits multiple generations to upgrade parts, I really like seeing a video like this.

[@KnownSoldier89]

I held onto my 5700XT. Bought it on sale at the tail end of 2019 to retire a gtx980. Used it through all of Covid, didn't want to sell it as it did a good enough job for my gaming and I rated having a working gaming PC during lock downs over mucking around with selling it 2nd hand. Been looking at upgrading for a while, but just haven't committed to dropping the cash for a new card.

[@heisenberg4e20]

Thanks for this video! Still running my Red Devil based on your opinion and review back in the days when she arrived on the market. Very good GPU, still really happy with her! Thanks!

[@ImTheSlyDevil]

I bought my 5700XT at launch for $370. I got it as an open box special from amazon. Never had a problem with it and turned out to be pretty good value in the long run. I'm still using it. I mostly play arpg's, racing games, and shooters - it's been holding up decently but I think I will buy a $400-500ish rdna4 gpu whenever that is out to finally replace it.

[@mattburnett7440]

Just upgraded my 5700XT to a 4080 Super. But I was surprised how well the old card was holding up. My only regret was getting a 2 fan card - it did run pretty loud at full load!

[@lliamnan]

I love my 5700 XT Red Devil. Won't upgrade this year. Not missing out on enough game to justify the upgrade.

[@henryojeda2890]

I love my 5700xt, been running the Nitro+ since launch. Thinking about upgrading soon, but money is tight and everything I play I can run at acceptable frame rates at 2k. Think I’ll wait till next gen.

[@josephhoalt6824]

Great video but curious what driver version was used on the Intel Arc cards because the 2 most recent drivers made huge jumps in many titles. Thanks

[@rudikroch6499]

This has been a legendary GPU. My non-XT has some great silicon; I run it stable with a decent undervolt + overclock and it beats the XT version by about 5% in Timespy. It's still running Flight Simulator strong on 1080p ultrawide, so I'll upgrade my Ryzen 3600 first, then the GPU.

[@Sirpesari]

Bought my Red Devil back in 2019 and been considering upgrading it this year since the 5800x3d it's paired with could use some more horsepower from the GPU....but every time I look at those 600+ euro cards it would be "worth" to upgrade to I have to face the reality....that the card still works and runs EVERYTHING pretty decently so...I guess ill skip the 7000 radeon gen and delay upgrading to the next one.

[@Xzavn]

I feel like the FSR vs DLSS point is a bit moot, considering that RTX2000 series gpus will only have access to FSR in newer titles as well, as they do not support DLSS 3 as far as I know. And FSR did make some progress over time. So if anything, the benefit that RTX2000 series card had with DLSS has diminished over time in my opinion.

[@geoffreywright9933]

Dropped one of these in my nephews PC and its still a good choice (Had one myself back at launch before upgrading later) For £120 paid on the used market he now has a card that can 1080/60 at high & ultra settings on most games out there

[@nathankey2007]

Great content! Thank you.

[@Yellowswift3]

I was literally just checking the channel out to see if there was a new vid that hadn't popped up on my feed, and there it was! :)

[@EastyyBlogspot]

I hope u do benchmarks of older cpus perhaps intel 8000 series compared to newer ones would be relaly handy

[@fuzzylumpkins6034]

In the house we have a 1080Ti (5 year old was using,) 5700XT (11 year olds was using,) and my 7700xt. I have sold the 1080Ti for £200 and put it to a 7900GRE. The youngest now has the 5700xt until next month when we will sell it and put the £180 we get for it toward the RX6750xt for him as it just dropped to £290 and the 11 year old has taken on the 7700xt. Yes the 7700xt was poorly priced at launch but when I got it is was £390 for the sapph pure edition and came with game coupons for steam. The 5700xt is tired and a year off being unsupported. Also I have had heating and power drain issues with our 5700xt since buying it so I wont revel in the marvel of it saying it has been amazing, I have had to repad/paste & under volt it along with all kinds of tuning to make it great. The 1080Ti has been stellar for the 7 years we've had it. We have given Nvidia a complete swerve for the 40 series, what a busted overpriced mess and no need to bring up RT, it is shit useless below the £1000 mark and no average gamer has any clue what it is or that is drops fps tremendously but fight on fanboys. Get back to me in 4 years when RT is properly implemented via CPU and not GPU. Vram over gimmicks any day.

[@SonderNashorn]

Im running a gtx 970. And i am eyeing the 5700xt for a relatively cheap upgrade from here. Or hold out a little longer and buy a 6700xt used. Can't really pay more and don't care for ray tracing so this video is a godsend! Thank you!

[@Icehawk2k7]

Excellent revisit! Any chance we could see one for the 5600XT vs 7600XT?

[@Nrde]

Did you try undervolting as it's supposed to be the "default" way of lowering power consumption and heat without any apparent downsides. With every new gen of cards I''m tempted to change but so far could easily resisted the temptation, one of the betterl HW purchases of mine.

[@benjaminwilson4124]

Beaut of a vid Steve, good to see the rasterisation of this gpu going strong. Awesome value!

[@Daniel-sz6gf]

Still running my Sapphire Pulse 5700XT. I want to upgrade but I originally bought it for 800aud and while similarly priced options no would be an upgrade I kind of expect better performance after 5 years. I am old and I can't shake the feeling of the 2000s where a generation of video cards would bring in substantial performance uplift.

[@joesalyers]

I used a 5700XT with a dock for the last 2019 15 inch i9 Intel Mac I had since the best GPU you could get was a 560X in it, the 5700XT was great, but when I got the M1 Max Macbook Pro a year or so later I was surprised how similar my GPU times were. I know an eGPU dock is limited compared to a desktop PCI slot but the 5700XT served me well. Also I was offered $80 more than I paid for it during the shortage so I can't complain!

[@ericepperson8409]

I got a reference blower 5700 for $240. Put an aftermarket cooler on it and flashed with an XT vbios. In the past few years the only game I play regularly anymore is Minecraft with my kid, so it does pretty good. It's a rock solid card to keep around if you're not playing the latest AAA titles. Pretty great value at less than $60 a year (so far).

[@devonmoreau]

This is the gpu I'm using, I bought it used as an upgrade from my rx 580. I just repasted it yesterday and saw a 30 degree drop in temps, very happy with it now :)

[@jayb2705]

It's interesting seeing this card looked at again, especially with the rumors that AMD's next generation might not have any high end cards. I bought the 5700XT reference when it first came out, and ended up selling it during the crazy mining period where people were paying silly money for them. It was a hybrid between GCN and RDNA, which is why it was preferred over the 6000 series. It's aged really well, I can see these cards being the same as the old AMD HD 7000 series because they share the same architecture as the PS5 and XBox.

[@Ozaron]

Still have a 5700XT which I picked up from a friend who had those initial driver teething issues. In my system it never complained at all. If it weren't for insane prices and real world concerns I'd already have a 6800XT or 7900 GRE, but waiting is rarely a bad thing when you're planning to upgrade..

[@mackal]

One thing I'm wondering about for GPU upgrading, where does staying on PCIe 3 system become a problem with newer GPUs? Some PCIe 4 only have x8, which can affect performance ... (for reference I"m on an 8700k system with a RX 5700 XT, which I think at the time most reviews said staying on PCIe 3 didn't matter much)

[@decibellx2194]

My rig that I am currently replacing has a 5700XT. it has been a great card in my opinion. It will find a new home in my home computer which handles my PLEX sever, and home security, it will be connected to my TV for movies and other entertainment. I think they card will have a long life in that new roll.

[@Caswagna93]

I’ve had the 5700 xt since launch and it’s still going strong. A few months ago I swapped out a gen 1 ryzen cpu for the 3600 to keep my old system humming along for a while longer. Everything still runs pretty ok for my needs

[@Spitlebug]

This is the kind of video I'm here for. I also appreciate you take the time to reply to comments. Subscribed. Enjoy the KZbin Premium Bucks.

[@CloutlessKage]

Went up to the 7900xtx from the 5700xt last year and boy did I love that gpu. Held me down great and barely had any issues with it. I’m sure the xtx will hold me over just as long if not longer now that I have a 300hz monitor to pair with it.

[@pitdoctor]

I picked up a Red Devil 5700XT in the spring of 2020 and have been super happy with it ever since. I have no problems playing Destiny 2, HALO Infinite, Starfield and Forza (Horizons and Motorsport) I had the bearings on one of the fans going out, that was an easy enough fix after ordering fans from AliExpress. Last year I briefly looked at upgrading to a newer GPU, but was finding they the GPUs I was looking at were going to force me into a new case to fit the new GPU.

[@andersjjensen]

Powercolor has the most chill support ever. I contacted them about bearing squeal after my 6700XT was out of warranty and the tech support more or less put the words into my mouth "So what you're saying is that the sound was always faintly there, but now it's gotten so bad it's a problem for you?" after I had indicated that I was perfectly comfortable changing fans myself, and I was just looking to buy original ones from them. "Obviously this was a valid RMA" so they sent me all three new fans free of charge. Did take ages with shipping though.

[@Patrick-tw7nr]

Steve must be psychic as I was literally talking about this card yesterday on another channel about finding this card when I was unpacking a box and forgot I had it and don’t know how it is with today’s games and what should i do with it as I don’t need it anymore lol. Thanks Steve. How much value do you think this card has in today market

[@ShadowVonChadwick]

Just thinking of the upgrade from 5700xt to 7700xt. Is the Pulse OK? I see Gigabyte doing a 128Gb mem bandwidth cheep, not for me. Good vid, Cheers

[@AndyViant]

My friend finally put his 5700 onto "backup card" status a while back, grabbing one of the last of the 6750XT's. A good cleanout and some new thermal pads and it will go in his backup pc/server system eventually. Sure it would have been better if he held on a bit longer for a 7700XT, but he was having a lot of thermal throttling issues. These ended up being mostly due to the poor thing being full of dust and dog hair. The initial driver issues and blue screen problems are long forgotten which is a great thing for those Arc buyers who have had to recently endure the same dramas. Stay the course and it should be resolved, guys. Suffice to say the new card and the extra 4gb of ram is a great help at 1440.

[@oneeasterneuropean9299]

Just had to upgrade to the 7900GRE a few weeks ago because my 5700XT started crashing my system. If that wasn't the case, I'd still happily be rocking that Navi beast. Just as it was starting to struggle with getting satisfying framerates in newer titles at 1440p, FSR got "good enough" to be well worth the occasional hit to visuals for the boost in smoothness. This may be a bit anectodal, but I kept my previous graphics card for the same 5 years as the 5700XT. It's predecessor was a GTX770, and I can wholeheartedly say that my sentiment towards that card at the end of it's "lifespan" was not nearly as positive. Comparing that to it's AMD counterparts from the time led me to choosing the 5700XT for that "Ages like fine wine" AMD driver evolution, and it turned out to be true. The 5700XT now punches a step above it's weight class at launch, firmly keeping up and surpassing the RTX2070, when at launch it was closer to a 2060. That same though process is what got me to buy the 7900GRE. That, and the fact that it's the most compelling price/performance-wise.

[@TheAddanz]

Agree but it was trading blows with the 2080 at launch, that is why Nvidia released the 2080 "Super" the 5700XT with watercooling has always produced similar results for me, the thing is also VERY efficient driving a 1440/60hz panel. Have never been happier with a GPU purchase, Im also realllllly tempted by the 7900GRE, especially as the pricing and exchange rate means importing one without customs fee penalty as it slips just below the $NZ1000 threshold... if they drop it any more im pulling the trigger lol

[@Collin_J]

Have this in our media PC which also handles game streaming and VR. For what I play on the big screen, it's more than enough

[@kazefw3834]

Ok, i need some advice, I'm aiming for a 1080p 144hz to 60hz for Dirt Rally 2, zenless zone zero, Borderlands 2, forza horizon 4, metro exodus and 2033, honkai star rail, and Detroit become human, price for a used 5700 xt and 6600 is the same from a trusted refurbisher at my country, but the rx6600 is only available in the gigabyte eagle model, which one should i go for ( PSU is a 500W tier c, but i could upgrade to the 650W in the same tier)

[@uss-dh7909]

Still rocking that 57xt you're presenting in this video. If I knew it was the golden shit during the mining boom then I defo would have sold it for that upgrade. Problem with that being that I got laid off and without a means of securing cashflow and the ongoing gpu shortage, I didn't want to risk ending up cardless at the time. Somewhat kicking myself as I'll likely be selling it for under $150 (purchased for $380 used w/ box+accessories) by the time I hit my 5 year upgrade cycle next year compared to maybe $250 for a 67xt. Getting my build finished only a couple months before lockdown felt absolutely clutch back then. Now it's looking like I'll upgrade to either the 77/78xt (78 mainly for the 16gb vram), although considering I'm looking into AI creation I'm thinking about biting the bullet and paying the yucky green tax and picking up the 4060 (16gb) or seeing what the 4070 looks like since I'm hoping by then the 5 series will have started putting some downward pressure by then. Then there's also the power savings which will always be appreciated alongside the additional features and stuff. We'll see, got another year and my 57xt has been great to me. A great upgrade off the 390x 8gb I got in 2015. Thanks for helping with the upgrade decision, though maybe we could revisit this again come next year and see how things really compare? :P

[@noticing33]

Was thinking of getting the 5700xt last year as it is great price perf in second handmarket, but got the Rx6600 due to lower power

[@scottstamm7022]

Had a 1080ti (my first Nvidia GPU) sold it hoping to snap up a RX 6900XT on day one....yeah, pipe dream. I scrambled and got a 5700XT Liquid Devil and kept that until the 7900XTX dipped under $800 w/ ZIP discount on NewEgg. Kept the 5700XT Liquid Devil and it's on display in my office w/ a custom loop using 2x 360mm rads, and my 3800X w/ Gigabyte X470 MoBo and a EK mono block. Looks great! Some day, I'll go back to it to play it again and see what it was like.

[@Invid72]

I love these revisits. I went from a GTX1080 to a 7900XT and the upgrade was mindblowing. Converted my gaming rig to Linux and getting incredible performance with this card.

[@Akasen1226]

I'm still rocking at 5700 XT since the launch of the AIB Sapphire Pulse. It's done an excellent job over the years, and don't think I'll upgrade any time soon unless it was to improve power consumption during gaming

[@CrashPilot1000]

Just bought it used for 110$ and it delivers. Since I play older shooters it is more than enough. I guess it would even do the newest COD BO6 but I am not interested in that (did not even dl the open beta). I undervolted to 1100mV and reduced max speed to 2GHz, Powertarget +50% and put max Fanspeed to 65%. That results in steady 1950MHz and temps below 75 degree Celsius. I think I will do a repaste and washers mod although when playing with headphones the card is quiet :) .