CHEAP & SAFE Way to Connect My PTO Generator, Will It Power The Entire House?

[@tommyordoyne7461]

Tim, don't forget to re-label your panel if you haven't already done so. Well done. Have another productive day.

[@projectswithjw]

I have an interlock and portable generator. It's a fantastic setup for me. I put color dots in my panel for using gen power. Green dot breakers are good. Blue dots mean limited, only 1 at a time. Red dots stay off. 👍

[@nalegtx8336]

I also run an inter-lock and its the best thing. Can't throw the main on without killing the generator switch. Guarantees no back feed and its short change

[@jw8292]

First, thanks for finally getting to this video. Since others have touched on it, I won't go into great detail, but....I normally don't put too fine of a point on the rating of a plug, as long as the wires are sized correctly, but pulling close to double the amperage is bound to be a problem. Breakers should be sized for the weakest link in the system, to prevent problems. Also the electrical load is pretty unbalanced, while not as big of an issue when on utility power, it is hard on the generator. It will never be perfect, but figure out which 120 volt circuits you would likely be using while on generator (240 volt circuits are pulling from both buss bars and therefore already balanced), and swap some to the other buss bar until you reach something halfway close to a balanced load.

[@andyluchsinger]

We used our PTO generator a few times during ice storms on the farm growing up. Very handy. We had most of the farm on a disconnect switch at the power pole. Very handy when needed!

[@turdferguson5300]

I was thinking of my home made aluminum blocker that I made for ours. I was going to try to describe it and you already have one and I hate to admit it looks better than mine. lol That looks like a Square D box so the half breakers will work in that box. Mine is a 1995 box so pre 1995 I can't be sure of. I was never an electrician nor did I play one on TV. The good news, if you'll do this the power will never go off again. I set mine power up roughly 10 years a go and haven't used it yet. We are in the mountains of SE Tennessee so it's protected from the wind.

[@calebthompson9631]

A couple things to keep in mind when using a PTO generator: 1) Tractors aren't meant to run unattended- it could overheat or lose oil pressure with you being unaware. Stand-alone generators will have automatic shut-downs in the event of oil pressure loss or overheating (if liquid-cooled).2) Because compact tractors generally have fairly small fuel systems, keeping an eye on the fuel level is a good idea unless bleeding a fuel system in the worst weather during the wee hours of the morning is your idea of fun. 3) The standards for recreational marine generators (I use this reference because I'm a marine electrician) specify maintaining a frequency of between 57 and 63 hertz, which the tractor may not do as well as a stand-alone generator. 4) Boats often have multiple sources of AC power. Source selection is usually done with either a break-before-make rotary switch, or a sliding lockout to permit only one of multiple circuit breakers to be on at one time, similar to what Tim installed, and the generally preferred method. 5) Shorepower connections for boats use what are called twist-lock connectors, where the connection plugs in then twists to lock it in place. These usually incorporate a means for making the connection weather-tight, and are available up to 100A 240V, but are also quite expensive. 6) Plugs and sockets are prone to overheating due to corrosion or poor fitment when operating at higher loads for extended periods. It's a good idea to periodically put a hand on the plug or check it with an infra-red temperature gun. 7) Several people have commented on having unbalanced loads on the generator (that is, low amp draw on one leg and high amp draw on the other). Generators should have a specification on how much imbalance they can tolerate- better units are unaffected by a 0%/100% imbalance. I don't intend my comments to be criticism, merely food for thought.

[@c.carney1948]

The small Deere’s are fairly easy to start if you run them out of fuel. Surprised me how easy.

[@kevink4914]

Most almost all you said doesn’t apply to tractors and pto generators that are built these days.

[@twcstransam]

The baumalight kr30 Tim was using in this video (and their entire pto generator line) have a stated automatic voltage regulation within +/- 1% from 56 to 64 Hz. If you set your tractor at the rpm for optimal pto speed (usually indicated on the tach) the unit will easily handle increased and decreased load changes. I think the modern pto generators built by more reputable mfgs will definitely handle the job. As for the tractor low oil, low oil pressure, low fuel, this would be more of an issue on older tractors, newer Travis with an ecu will derate/power down for the first 2. Out of fuel is not much of an issue for restart. The current L5P duramax restarts in less than 20 seconds after replacing fuel filter leaving the filter canister empty, all of the newer tractors I've worked with are easy to start, just power cycle the key a few times to reprise, and you are off and running

[@oefveteran09]

​@c.carney1948 the 1 series is a great machine to learn on, very forgiving for a tractor.

[@c.carney1948]

@@oefveteran09I have a 1 series, it’s the smallest tractor I have ever been on, but it does what I want it to do. My friend has one also and ran his out of fuel and called to bring him some more. I thought man this is going to be a chore. I was wrong. Electric fuel pump primed it real easy. It is also the first hydrostatic tractor I have ever been on. Had to get used to the petal on the left not being a clutch.

[@danandfaith]

We have a whole-house propane-fueled Kohler generator and automatic transfer switch. Within 10 seconds of power out, we’re powered up again. On the computer equipment, UPS battery backup systems keep the power to the networking and computing gear until the generator is providing power, bridging the 10 seconds. We have had occasion here in New Hampshire to be without power for 5 days straight after a major storm. Since we often are out on the road playing music far from home, the house stays powered, and the heat stays on.

[@kavemanthewoodbutcher]

Tim, Christy, you two do you! May god bless you in all your endeavors. Me and mine will be here for every video, even the ones that have no relevance. P.S. Christy, you're running that grapple better than I could! You have experience with grapples, I'm happy to have tractor!

[@AtlantaSoundGuy]

Thanks for the emphasis on the importance of the generator lockout/disconnect/interlock -- HUGE safety item.

[@kevingebert4316]

Great video on genny options for whole home use. Personally, I'll stick with the auto transfer switch LP powered generac simply because if power is out when no one home especially during heavy rainfall, the sump pump wouldn't be running. Plus if power goes out like it has in middle of Wisconsin winter ice storms, it'd be no fun battling the elements. But I do like excuse of having a manual generator to buy a second tractor 😊

[@jw8292]

Not only is this a good point, but a dedicated generator has a much better governor on it than a tractor does, and therefore having better frequency control. Most standby generators can stay within 1Hz plus or minus, and frequently are less than 0.5Hz. PTO generators were great for running a milking parlor, but until they come up with an inverter version, or electronics become more tolerant of off spec power, I think their utility is limited.

[@SL54321]

Hey Tim! I’ve got a UPS from APC at each modem and router location in my house. When I load test my generator each month the internet doesn’t go down. Just a thought for you. Ps- I’ve got a geothermal system as well and love it. PPS- after reading all the comments, I should mention I have a small UPS setup at all my electronics (our tv, my computer, son’s fancy PC etc). It negates any issues with “unclean” power coming off the genny. I also have one on the automatic cat feeder so they don’t starve if we’re on vacation ….

[@briancarpenter8297]

Yes, the regulator on the generator can control the voltage by changing the excitation of the field. However, RPM determines frequency, which is changing with the PTO RPM. Some devices are really picky about 60hz.

[@Kcolby47]

I liked your analysis of different solutions/options. Your suggestion of a second tractor is certainly a consideration for some folks, and does offer flexibility and utility. Nice work Christy and looks like you’ve mastered the grapple as well. Blessings.

[@brettroberts3551]

The power of Proverbs and an alternate generator. Never knew it was an option. Thanks for all the tips...and I think you made it clear to create the proper bypass. And thinking about it, I can justify having another tractor. Thanks.

[@hagak1679]

Been using a 16kW PTO generator for about 3 years now on my 2038R. I have transfer switch up near the meter, our meter is about 150' from the house so it puts the noise a good bit further from the house. Can really only hear it if I am in a room at the front of the house. As for the needing the tractor while dealing with storm cleanup, well everyone is helping during the cleanup phase so no one really needs to be in the house and needing power. We actually had a recent storm that tested this for me and it worked fine, the storm knocked power out for several days and it dropped 6 very large trees across our driveway that I had to clear and needed the tractor to do it. Work for a few hours, take a break and power the house. Rinse and Repeat. Other item with running a PTO is you need FUEL, and you need to conserve it. I do not run it at night cause we have wood stoves and do not need it for heat and i dont want that noise while sleeping. Climate is Maine so heat is always a concern but that is why we have wood stoves. Biggest negative to PTO generator I see is it can not be left unattended for long, tractor only hold ~8 gal of fuel. So if you need power even if you are not home then it is not the option.

[@michaelhess4825]

I literally just did this last weekend. Found a beat up 5k with a Honda, fixed everything on it. About 80 bucks, maybe 100, to do the outlet, cord, and disconnect kit. Tested running the whole house including my heat pump!

[@tractorboi55]

You have no idea how helpful this is for me, I have been looking for this exact solution for years and never seen it done. We live in Montana and have two geothermal furnaces (one for each half of the house) and have electric backup as well and I have always wondered how many kw they will draw in emergency heat. You are truly a lifesaver!!! Wow!!

[@tractorboi55]

On that note, do you have one furnace or two? Just wondering for math calculations on my set up kw wise. I still can’t get over how awesome this was! Thanks a million.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Thanks for the kind words.

[@kevinhoober1863]

Cool setup! I doubt you'd really run it at the same level you are testing at today...but keep in mind at your peak load, you were nearly running 100A through a 50A rated connector. Hope you are staying warm!

[@barelystablefarm7151]

In my neck of the woods power outages are fairly common, sometimes several days long. Love that PTO gen, but no way I could listen to that thing roar for hours on end. Thanks for the vid I know I was one of the ones who kept asking about it!

[@Jeff-zk6dk]

Great video tim i just had a interlock installed for my portable generator and had to use it last week lost power for 19 hours worked great .

[@OO-by2jl]

I have a generac, works well. Middle of the night no worry it starts up and has the automatic switch. A electrical lineman told me years back a lot of lineman been killed by faulty hook ups

[@jeffreycurrie3410]

Over all quite good, I’ve been an electrician for 34 years, and counting. I really like the manual add-on apparatus. Your panel doesn’t use half width breakers you would use QO tandem. Food for thought, balance your loads in the house better(so you draw as close to even as you can. That will be tedious. This way your generator, will be balanced. I’m not sure of your size of breaker or wire. I think, from my couch in New York, they’re 50 amp rated. So that will be your weak point. It appeared the one phase was much higher during the demo. Most breakers are designed to trip at 80% of breaker rating at continuous duty. The receptacle is called a flanged inlet. And your plug/ receptacle. Is called a California twist lock. Not sure why manufacturer gets California involved but that’s just what they call it. Like I said overall great job. You explained very well.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

If I calculate correctly, the only risky spot in my circuit is the plug/receptacle. It is rated at 50 amps. Wire is big enough, breaker big enough, etc. I just haven’t found a cost effective 125amp plug/receptacle. Can you help?

[@jeffreycurrie3410]

@@TractorTimewithTim I think “ cam locks “ would be the best. But they’re not as clean of look. I really feel if you balanced your loads, and kept an eye on your “plug and cap”. It’s not going to melt at 51.5 amps. If you’re overloading for a real long time, it will be evident look for discoloration in the plastic. Overloading will just mean you’ll have to replace sooner. Wire is most important to be correct size, being in conduit you won’t notice an issue. And too small of a breaker, will give nuisance trips. Common sense. I’m not sure if you will ever have long term power issues. But during an emergency, just be reasonable( usage) . It’s obvious you’ve got a great generator. Your plan so far is great.

[@grandpateal]

You seem like the kinda dude my dad would drink beer with. Love the work and the content.

[@photocontrol]

Nice set up with the PTO generator, convenient to have the interlock device for the existing panel instead of a separate panel with a manual transfer switch.

[@auggie2038R]

I cannot wait until you release more these videos on the other tractors. Thank you for putting this video together really helpful information.

[@rongray4118]

Tim - we are looking into a pto generator for the 1973 Unimog that we have. Thank you for helping me to better comprehend how to use one.

[@tretter1452]

Nice to see you guys cover these issues!

[@NotMuchHere]

haha second tractor! I always say, once you have one chain saw you find you need a second ... same with the tractor!

[@ruarioshea6015]

Most milking parlours in Ireland have pto generators there a must I have a diesel generator for our house it runs the workshop mostly with 3 phase power and we just flip a changeover switch for a power outage, it isolates the feed line so the power is only going to the house nowhere else

[@gregnicholson689]

Thought about a setup like this but in the northeast we do not have reliable electricity service in big storms or windy conditions. So much nicer to have an ATS and a propane powered backup generator, which came on twice for a total of 36 hours in the latest storms that came through. Last thing I want to do in a blizzard or hurricane is to go outside and position/hook up a tractor and generator. The only problem with your setup is knowing when the power is back on so you can go back to the grid! Consider yourself blessed with reliable electricity.

[@xcalibre222]

Great setup for emergency power. I also use the Gen interlock switch on my panel. Installed it a couple years ago and only needed to use it once since then. I have the B&S 5500 watt gen for backup power. Thanks for the Vid.

[@benm8257]

I’m in Indiana as well and from what you said in the past I think we are no more than an hour apart and I think I will just stick with my whole house back up generator. Electricity goes off in about a minute later the generator tricks on without me doing anything, and we have electricity. When it goes out, it automatically switches back over to the grid like you mentioned. Very convenient

[@eddiehenrard5251]

When setting up our generator feed, our sparky installed a Mains/Off/Generator 3-way switch in the main board. Your solution does the same thing in essence. But, we only have 3kW!

[@OShackHennessy]

Great video and great points. Especially bringing up the economical older tractors that you can run like a rented mule and not care. If I had to start over again I’d get one of those pto generators.

[@christopherwisby8926]

I recently purchased a used qr30. I have tested it up to about 11kw using my kubota 70hp. No sweat at all. Looking at buying an older 32hp Yanmar tractor with the 3-4speed pto’s. Would like to be able to throttle down when I know power demands are low. Most of the time 6-8kw is all we need. So 15-18 pto hp would suffice.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

…or get a 1000rpm PTO tractor …run at half throttle:-)

[@danandfaith]

Adding a whole-house manual or automatic switch can be done by your electrician. They’d pull the meter from the meter socket, then require from the meter socket to your main panel.

[@stromxtc2033]

Tim is always doing something interesting.

[@thepitpatrol]

Thanks Tim. Nice work. And just so you know, we have a poultry farm with a 120kw and auto transfer switch and alarms on every house. It all works great until you need it😂.

[@GrampysTractor]

Tim, that is a very nice unit to provide power. but where do you cross the line to having a complete engine and generator in one unit? The cost of adding an auction tractor of a proper size and with at least the minimum in reliability because you don't want Old Salty to give up the ghost at the wrong time. The Baumalight is a portable unit, so that advantage is good, but you can get almost that much power out of a complete generator that is portable too. Christy, you did a wonderful job with the chain saw and the grapple.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Yep. Lots of decisions.

[@davidbiggerstaff7116]

50 miles west of you, power was out for 4 1/2 days last June with that big wind storm, installed the same set up on my house after that.

[@cboutdoorfun9955]

Tim good job with the interlock device. Obviously like others stated you shouldn’t be going over 50amps with your setup. Couple questions for you. What size breaker did you install in the panel? What size wire did you use to the breaker? What size cable/wire came with the generator? How does the cable connect to the generator?

[@fairwethrhunter8042]

I would like to know this as well. Looks like number 6 feeding gen breaker 👀

[@Tractorman-xj4gt]

Thanks for sharing this timely info - it's always great to have options when the power goes out. I'm currently using a large portable generator with a Generlink attached to the outside meter - pretty simple to set up when the power drops. I also think you're going to need a 2nd channel - TTWC (Tractor Time With Christy).

[@tomherfel2916]

The Generlink device works great and it's simple to use. Our power company installed it at no charge. Not sure how the cost compares to Tim's method. It's not real inexpensive.

[@adamg2136]

We had one to power our Dairy during outages and it was a 540 pto connection but we would use the 1000 Pto connection on the tractor and a spline adapter from 1000 to 540 to allow the tractor to idle at lower rpm consuming less fuel. Have to use the volt meter to ensure the tractor rpm is not to high or the voltage output of the generator is not to high.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Cool. This generator would help with the volt meter as it has all of that built in.

[@adrianpritchard5143]

I like watching your videos and I like to read all the other comments other people have to say, and I like to see what implements you can get for a John Deere 1025r tractor.

[@SWAMPHUNTER644]

Thanks for the video. I had a chance to buy a tractor PTO generator at a dairy farm auction years ago but didn't bid because I wasn't up to speed. It was used for milking cows in a small dairy herd. I have a 50 amp circuit to my barn from the house with two tractors and I could run the PTO generator inside the barn with a rear overhead door open for CO safety. Ironically the auction site had a power outage during the auction while my house two miles away did not. I have another option of a stand alone propane generator hooked up to a buried 300 gallon propane tank. My question is the efficiency of fuel use (diesel) in using a tractor to run a PTO generator. You didn't touch on that aspect of it. Certainly a tractor would run longer than a small generator that would have to be refueled multiple times over a several day power outage. But a tractor won't run forever either. I figure I get about one hour of tractor use at full throttle for each gallon of diesel. You didn't mention if your tractor has to be full throttle or half throttle or what to power the generator. Vital information in a power outage. How long can I run?

[@RichardThompson-gc1cf]

I like the way you think great job with your work take care of yourself be independent you got the right idea. THANKS

[@ardennielsen3761]

if you had quick disconnect fittings on the coolant lines for the cab heater, those could be tied into the floor heating using a heat pump and setting up a garage right with a muffler exhaust. was told natural gas costs 5 times less then liquid fuel... so then that comes down to actual running costs. 10kw/hr/month electric/heat combined is a average when it is -60 outside... tho if your generator starts back feeding into the grid the time meter charges ya for it as it is monodirectional and the smaller braker trips when the bigger end comes back on creating a phase surge in the process.

[@Tri-Lobe]

One word of caution with all of that running. You can see that you are exceeding the rating of your plug. I know typically that you wouldn't be running all of that at one time. But I just wanted to make sure you are aware. Overall, it was a very nice install. I have the same setup in my panel for a 20kw diesel generator that I have wired into my home. It is permanent install down here i. south Louisiana. We have hurricanes, so backup power is essential. Most of my family have a very similar setup as you wish the pto generators. I have always liked them and would love to have one some day as a means for portable power.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Couldn’t find a larger plug.

[@Tri-Lobe]

@TractorTimewithTim exactly I was going to hook up my sisters house up that way also. Maybe we need to find one that we could use. Please don't take it wrong. I understand exactly what you are dealing with. I love the fact that you created a good video on the complete setup.

[@robbridges7810]

Get two 50 amp plugs.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

@@robbridges7810hmm.

[@martinmcgee5503]

You go Christi , cleaning up the place!!

[@Chris-qf9qm]

How much fuel does the setup use? What happens to tractor temps under load with 8hrs run time? Do you have enough diesel on hand for 24 hrs of run time?

[@keiths4874]

excuse my ignorance on the issue but I was just recently discussing this option verses an "on-demand" unit and one of my co-workers mentioned that a PTO driven generator may not be "clean" enough, I have no idea, but here to learn, also interested in the Geo-thermal👍

[@NotMuchHere]

Thanks I was curious about the speed control and voltage regulation ...

[@krazyphucker369]

I see the neutral tied in to the panel with the grey with black stripe wire that circuit doesn't get broken backfeeding the neutral a switch breaks all 3 lines to the transformer and reconnects to all 3 lines of the generator not too much of an issue unless the ground wire is broken but still has potential to back feed to the transformer nice generator thought i have a miller welder generator i want to convert to be pto driven

[@jamieebersole6755]

We often run the whole house with a pto generator on an Oliver 60 which is approximately 18 pto hp. We had an oil furnace and wood stove and you probably couldn't run both the oven and dryer at the same time but in a power outage you can alternate between appliances to get buy. If you are using an old tractor you want one with a good governor and I've been told a 2 cylinder John deere can make the lights flicker but maybe the regulator option would take care of that

[@user-ij3op9dw3u]

One neighbor tried his 730 John Deere,on his Generator at the milk barn, finally put the 4230 on , said it was a disco in the milk barn with the two cylinder

[@dehavenfamilyfarm]

We have owned one of those for about 10 years. It is easy to use and I like that I can take it elsewhere if I need power. My only complaint is how loud it is....

[@PastorDavidFranklin]

Christy great job. Tim thanks for demonstrating various power alternatives. Quite interesting.

[@bradw3313]

Good video…..I’m about to add a home generator (used one) to my house. If the auto switch is too expensive for my setup, I may wind up using the same safety switch you have shown here. I don’t mind going outside and switching it manually. Sure will beat hauling the heavy small generator and running extension cords for limited power. Good point on second tractor too….I kick myself for selling my old yanmar when I got a newer model (newer to me) Kubota.

[@raymster8450]

Tim, Keep up the good work! From the comments I'm amazed at the number of keyboard lunatics that can't read or hear and proceed to dramatize a subject you covered in the video. As Will Rogers said "commen sense ain't that common".

[@donmedford2563]

I know it would have cost a lot more but i would have been tempted to put the plug near the garage door on concrete so it is much easier to get the generator where you need it if there is a lot of snow. I still remember the blizzard of 1978 in NW Ohio. 10-15' snow drifts.

[@richc9890]

Like the idea. However, for the cost of that particular unit, you could pay for a dedicated LP or diesel whole house unit probably with the switchover built in (and quieter). The nice thing about the PTO one is it's portable.

[@topshelf321]

Does the generator have internal breaker protection to protect the wiring and plug between it and the panel? If you installed a 50 amp in your panel and pulled 60 or more for a period of time probably around 10 minutes, it's going to trip due to heating up. Wire, plug, and breaker in panel should be sized for the max output of the generator. I have a 30kw super quite mobile generator on my house with similar setup. Works great.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

What type of plug/receptacle do YOU have?

[@topshelf321]

I have mine hard wired. Generator has lugs and 100 amp breaker in panel.@@TractorTimewithTim

[@jddriver9565]

I love your videos with all your different deere machines.:) I dont know why but I have to say it over and over again....I really love it I guess.:)

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Thanks 👍

[@alanb.4660]

didn't you say that was a 50 amp inlet? and how many amps did you run through it?

[@martindery4270]

So the breaker that connect to the switch (where the generator comes in) is it a normal breaker? I don’t know much about electrical panels. Thank you

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Yes

[@grisher111]

my neighbor is a lineman for the power company and he says it's illegal to wire it up that way. That's the way I do it. Works for me, I think there is a danger to backfeed the power into the line if it doesn't have a foolproof way of disconnecting from the service.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

He is wrong. This IS foolproof.

[@BradV-e2o]

I had to buy a invertor style generator to run my new furnace. New furnaces don't like the dirty power from a regular generator. The invertor style produces a cleaner sine wave. My furnace would detect it in the startup cycle and shut back down. Just something to know.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

My furnace didn’t have issue with this higher quality generator.

[@mattyerfdog8873]

Im trying to sort this out on my own home currently and undecided whether to use a tractor generator or stand alone. My concern with the tractor option is it running unattended. Ive been looking at murphy valves to shut it down if it loses oil pressure or over heats but its something else to add cost to the job. I cant decide what to do at the moment.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

I'm not worried about these tractors losing oil pressure or frankly even overheating. Lots of people run them unattended on remote water pumps, irrigation rigs, etc.

[@nikond90]

Well done Tim

[@BillyP55]

I'm in Carteret County on the NC coast and have been contemplating upgrading my portable generator. I was wondering if my 1025R could be used to power the house with a PTO driven generator. Look forward to your next video.

[@donalexander4083]

very informative and Christie did great

[@FelipeColby]

Very interesting. Especially if considering having a second tractor for this purpose...how does the cost for a "regular" generator that would put out the same power, compare with buying the PTO generator...presuming you either have the other tractor already or would get a more used/cheaper tractor for that purpose?

[@marlondeere3039R]

Thought of doing the pto generator years ago. But the cost of them are so high. I guess they just don't make enough of them to compete with the motor already attached.

[@BitCounter]

I debated using my tractor as a generator option. Is the generator/tractor noise at a level where you could sleep through the night? I now have a 27KW NG @ 85DB that conveniently is on the other side of the house.

[@karldawnlang8936]

Kool video. Fortunately, the AC/DC welder (aka "Coffee Break) powers everything we need.

[@michaelsalfi104]

I hope all had a safe and happy new year. I am looking forward to see if a 1025 can run that generator. As you had said, it was very loud near the unit. That will draw a bit of attention to the tractor. How would we go about, stopping someone from stealing our running tractors?

[@user-bj4lp3fr1o]

As I recall it takes about 2 hp per kw of output.

[@ralphjelomono1066]

Good video Tim. I have a 10KV pto gen and with three tractors available I am sure I'll always have one available if needed to run the gen. I also have a portable gas gen capable of powering the house and 4kw hrs of battery back up. It is nice to have options.

[@richarddubord3978]

How long will the electric tractor run it?

[@09X19]

After a lot of research and consideration I recently went with a NG Generac for 3 reasons. 1. The wife would never mess with a PTO solution if I am not around. 2. As I approach retirement age, not sure I want to mess with it either. 3. My tractor is not big enough to run more than 10kw. I guess it's up to you decide if you think the extra cost of a Generac is worth the convenience...and to clarify the Generac is only more $ because of the installation. If you have to pay electricians ... likely not much of a price difference between the two options. As far as operating costs go...diesel is likely the cheapest, followed by NG and propane a distant third. Most if not all air cooled home standby generators are NOT continuous duty rated, so if you are worried about a long term event (more than a couple days)...an air cooled generator is not for you. The PTO generator in this video could likely run for weeks continuously without too much worry.

[@leevandyke8524]

Great video, Tim, happy new year, it looks like you’re going to get a little cold up there. Where to study 57° for all next week which is in 70 but I’ll take it again happy new year Lee and Marcia..

[@TractorTimewithTim]

I’m jealous! Wish we would have either SNOW or WARM!

[@leevandyke8524]

In another 30 days we should be in the 70s if those gray sky’s are getting to you , come on down to where the 1860s civil War started. Front door is always open.

[@nekret]

Would love to see some data on what your fuel consumption looks like! One of my biggest gripes running on a portable generator is having to refuel it every 4-6 hours.

[@MARKLOCKWOOD2012]

that’s why after watching Jimmy Houston on his channel show his Jackery solar generator’s. Here’s where you gotta learn “juice” factors. With Jackery their models correspond with max items you can run. So when you shop make a list what’s gotta run. verses a day or more not needed. Yes they plugs like in your house. Usb to get the c usb 1,000 watt minimum. they have come out with their new design it tells you draw and how long it will last. Models now are their pro stow carry handles. but at the time i shopped the pros costed more. Yes now they have a big boy 30 amp unit plug. on wheels. The bigger the units the more panels to be set up hopefully the weather is bright. love my units. my mother is getting older so i bought her an electric recliner anniversary but my 1,000 tad bit under powered. so let’s look blue etti something not to break the bank so she can run her coffee pot or sewing machine get in or out of the chair. remember which unit and route you go what are you running. see owners manual on devices. match accordingly what i like about my option no gas or oil to fool with keep charged check six months status plug in top off. When you receive your units half charge plug in to 100%. the 1,000 unit of jackery has a blue light charging green done. and the larger units have a built in work led light. keep stored in fire proof bags things like c-pap machines are important electric blankets portable stoves lamps not every one has the money for a tractor set up refrigerators kids toys electronics night lights quiet just a quiet cooling fan. no jackery either is water proof jackery units keep out of direct sun light minus the solar panels 1,000 will run pellet grill for about two hours ten flash low warning charge me.

[@keithklockars9932]

Tim the safety light is to make sure you stay under or over 60 hertz(cycles). You would be wise to get yourself a meter that reads hertz. The 60 cycles is determined by the rpms of the genny. All of most of the motors/equipment / and anything with a computer on board are critical to the 60 cycles. Maybe -+ 2 cycles momentarily. Also thought the same as you that this setup would be great. What i found was you better make sure you have plenty of fuel to keep it going. You are going to burn some fuel!!

[@roberthoffman5145]

❤ exactly

[@keithklockars9932]

You also have to balance toe loads on the two poles of your buss bar in your panel board because you can overload one side and shorten the life of one field of your genny

[@foonus406]

I can never understand when i drive by one of the local farmers why he has a quarter million dollar tractor burning engine hours parked running the PTO to power al old $500 augur that could easily be running of a small gas motor. This unit reminds me of that setup - why would you simply not get a generator with a motor instead of putting wear and hours on a tractor where you have to consider engine hours as a loss of resale value. Thanks for the Video!

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Because the augers nowadays require 120hp or more. Also, I don’t see many running augers with new tractors. Usually bigger older tractors…the old family favorites. My family uses Oliver 1950-T and Deere 4620.

[@foonus406]

@@TractorTimewithTim Thanks for the reply Sir. I had no idea they had that kind of a power requirement! Mind you, I was asking the neighbor if she had set up a new wireless access point, but no it was the rental Brandt augur.. that thing even has a WIFI access point built into it for some kind of management or tracking! Goes to show how far behind the times I am with some of this newer equipment.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

@@foonus406yea, the ‘standard’ in augers now is 13” which can unload a semi truck (1000bu) in 6-9 minutes.

[@ucfsub]

That's really loud, substantially louder than my old 10kw pto generator which was in an of itself pretty loud. I ended up picking up a 10 kw surplus military diesel generator at auction and I'd glad I went with a standalone diesel generator. It has the option to run off auxiliary fuel so I plumbed it into my existing tank of off road diesel for the tractors and can run 28 days without needing a refuel. The military under-rates their gen sets. My 10kw is rated for 12kw at sea level but have had the thing pulling 16kw for an hour with no issues. Didn't even trip the generator breaker.

[@kencotton4645]

I was looking at the price for the Baumalight generator compared to prices listed online for whole house generators. The tractor driven generators seemed to be close in price to a whole house generator using propane for fuel. I will acknowledge that the higher the output, the more difference in price between the Baumalight generators and whole house generators. Someone mentioned having to monitor the tractor. Growing up on a farm, we used a tractor to pump water for irrigation. We had modified mechanical gauges for things like water temp, oil pressure and fuel that would shut off the tractor if any of those gauges reached a certain level. Given the electronics in modern tractor, I wonder if it would be possible to do the same thing using some type of software switch?

[@MarcoAtlarge]

Murphy switch

[@BrianCandlish1]

Ending shenanigans are perfect!!! Haha

[@franklackie2469]

Great job Tim. I gotta agree. Only way to go ❤

[@roadhammmer]

I am wondering what is the smallest kubota or John Deere that has an auto throttle option to maintain pto rpm with varying loads?

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Good question. I've not had a machine with this feature. "Auto Throttle" does NOT mean the feature you describe.

[@roadhammmer]

@@TractorTimewithTim i know some of the modern big ag tractors have it they will adjust the throttle based on load to hold pto rpm. They'll also shift gears on the fly. Im not sure what the correct term i just know it exists. And for gen applications steady rpm set point is a must.

[@christopherwisby8926]

Most tractors are actually governed. Not throttled. That’s why they work so well for this type of application.

[@coypatton3160]

Tim I have seen several comments related to the amperage you are pulling through your 50a plug. This in my opinion is something that meeds a meter reading-if you are exceeding 50a consistently, you will likely have a electrical issue/potential fire. Also of concern is one leg pull 25a and the other pulling 7a. That is quite the imbalance that needs to be checked by a qualified individual. This likely an imbalance on your power company supply also. There is a potential to damage to items in your home.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

I don’t know where to find larger rated plug

[@twcstransam]

I'm with you Tim on not wanting a dedicated generator that's yet another motor to maintain, a pto generator is my idea of the way to go. Besides you don't buy the tractor (new or used) to look at it, it is a tool.

[@russellgnuse]

Nice job . Just remember you are only use a 50amp plug in and breaker you was well over that a couple times it not the volts that get you it the amps you pull and not sure what size wire you ran too just keep that in mind great job

[@OShackHennessy]

I noticed that too and was wondering if I just wasn’t reading the amps correctly

[@russellgnuse]

@@OShackHennessy I think that I time I seen 75 amp on one leg will not take long to burn that up. Just because you have a 30k generator you still need to run the right wire

[@gtuttle4]

I used an external manual transfer switch that is wire to my main service box, no need to bring in the utility company. Very safe! No way both can be on at the same time.

[@scruffy4647]

Tim, nice set up. How long can you run the tractor? Does the PTO also have a continuous run time?

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Will run as long as it has fuel. …and you can refill fuel while it is running..not dangerous with diesel.

[@thepitpatrol]

We pulled our meter, sticks 1/4 copper plates in the lugs, and vice gripped #6 wire from there back to the generator. And yes, all of that meets national code.

[@DavidAnderson-c6m]

Tim I love the videos you do, I have a 1025R with is a lot more comfortable tractor to run than the 2305 that I traded for the 1025R. The biggest complaint I have is the hydraulics on the newer tractor, I got it new in 2022 and was very disappointed in what it can lift in the front end loader verses the 2305 I had.is there any way that I can boost the pressure to what the shop manual says without voiding the warranty?

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Yes, you will not void the warranty if you raise the pressure to the factory spec. Get a gauge from boltonhooks.com use code ttwt to measure the pressure.

[@miker8915]

Great video , thank you for sharing 😀

[@larryalbertson3042]

Is there a way to add a voltage regulator to an older pto generator?

[@munangst24]

80+ amps through a 50amp rated plug/receptacle pair….what’s the size of the generator feed breaker that is interlocked? It was taped over.

[@kevinsantelik6754]

I'd be looking for a spare main breaker. I've lost count of how many times a whole panel had to be changed due to the main breaker not being able to be reset. A spare main @$250 is a whole lot cheaper than a whole new panel.

[@Sc-jf3yk]

How about your water? You got a well? Electric water heat? Those are loads you dont know when they kick on. Just curious

[@TractorTimewithTim]

240v well pump.

[@oneeyedjack4727]

This is a nice setup. What is the estimated fuel consumption for the tractor or how many hours can be run on a tank? I realize that it will vary depending on how many kw you are using but maybe figure on 50% generator capacity.