I think the jet sizes are metric .165cm divided by 2.54 to convert to inches equals .06496 inches
@AKonkle19834 ай бұрын
Yes, that is exactly correct. I cheated and google searched a conversion calculator.
@billynomates9204 ай бұрын
yeah that's what i figured - just noticed the english when up in twos the metric when up in 5, 4 was 10 like that.
@kensutherland4143 ай бұрын
Holley jets are rated by the flow not the bore size. It’s very important not to cause screw driver marks on any jet as it upsets the flow FYI.
@stevo1843 ай бұрын
@@AaronDrees-k1t Well mm actually. They leave the decimal point. 165 means 1.65mm 1.65mm ÷ 25.4 = .0649 thou
@yurimodin73332 ай бұрын
@@stevo184 and that is why you use the correct mic's and do not convert
@ArionRaine5 ай бұрын
The weight difference is the Holley is made of a zinc alloy called Zamak (trade name, many variants), the clone is an aluminum alloy. Many carbs are. Hence why many suffer from zinc pest to varying degree, depending on the specific alloy. Its used due to its very high suitability for die casting. We have better aluminum alloys now that have displaced Zamak some, but its still widely used. Yes, Zamak contains aluminum as one of the alloying elements, and is very often confused with aluminum, and sometimes referred to as aluminum by manufacturers to avoid calling it "pot metal" (aka Zamak), but its primary element is Zinc, hence the weight difference. Also, the number difference on jet sizes are metric vs imperial.
@mikegillam10005 ай бұрын
Thanks for the review! Don't feel too bad about buying this thing. It was worth it for the educational value for your viewers
@MuscleCarSolutions5 ай бұрын
I hope so! Thanks much.
@cyber31675 ай бұрын
I got some Chinese made motorcraft 2150 copy off Amazon for $100 or so because my original carbs throttle was hanging open slightly no matter how much I cleaned it and it would cause it to idle too high. Looked over it made sure all the screws were tight and adjusted everything to where it needed to be. A few months later still runs perfect, no issues starts right up with one pump every time. This was more so a temporary fix while I save up to get a nice 4 barrel intake and carb. But for now it’s doing me really well.
@kevinmalesky1614 ай бұрын
@cyber3167 very good chance your original throttle shaft could be worn causing a vacuum leak causing the high idle. I’m pretty sure the autolite/motor craft carbs have a rep for that
@bryco324 ай бұрын
Ordered me a Remaned carburetor off of rock auto for my Jeep cj6 with a 2100 Motorcraft. Cost me near $300 but we couldn't ever get it to run worth a crap on a Low mile 304 engine. 45k Shoddy rebuild from Autoline products in Canada. Wore out shafts and a warped flange. No help from Autoline or Rock auto. Bought a 70$ 2150 knockoff from Amazon. Cleaned it and adjusted the screws and drove for 2 hrs that night. Ive been thinking of going to a 2300 500cfm or even a smaller 4bbl since I street drive it for the most part. I'll probably try of these before I dump $300 again on something that isn't worth a Sht.
@courier11sec4 ай бұрын
Yes this. The idea that made in America means anything as all the big companies continue to consolidate and cut cost is just silly at this point.
@darinmiller24054 ай бұрын
That's a raw deal of Rock auto not standing behind there product 😢
@briananderson38013 ай бұрын
The stuff they spray in there and on the out side is like a creasaul because they are shipping over on a boat the salt air dosent effect the aluminum,,same as on cars they ship ,you see it on the brakes and rotors any thing they think can get exposed to the salt air
@PCgonerogue8205 ай бұрын
There using metric sizing on the just. 200 is 0.2mm (0.0078 in)
@MuscleCarSolutions5 ай бұрын
@@PCgonerogue820 that would make sense but there’s an extra zero in there. I appreciate that comment though. I completely overlooked that…. Thank you!
@dsrengines5 ай бұрын
200 is actually 2.00 mm. A 165 is 1.65. Convert 1.65÷25.4= .0649. Mikuni and others are all numbered in metric
@PCgonerogue8205 ай бұрын
@@dsrengines , good catch I put the decimal point in the wrong spot.
@Rotorcycle5 ай бұрын
@@dsrengines I work on webers a lot and theyre in mm too
@roberthollinshead23255 ай бұрын
Actually quite a few nice upgraded compared to a standard 1850. The extra jets are to get you tuned for the fuel you intend to use. They don't don't know if you'll be running straight gas, 10% ethanol, 15% ethanol...good job providing some tunability. Good upgrade over the holley cork gaskets on the mixture screws. Nice removable air bleeds. Brass float is cool. Bushings on the throttle shafts-nice. Lightweight alloy-a plus. From what I see it looks nice. Probably very easy to tune
@MuscleCarSolutions5 ай бұрын
It’s fluff. The true understanding of how this thing is going to perform is in that god awful metering block. It’s unbalanced at best. It’s not going to be easy to tune, if we can get it to be consistent at all. The proof is in the data. The first half gathered in this video, sucks. We’ll see what it produces once we put it on a mild small block. Stayed tuned!
@gustav258975 ай бұрын
The jet sizes as marked are in metric without a decimal. The 205 is actually 2.05mm, standard practice for this kind of thing.
@glennwmurphy1Ай бұрын
THANKS AGAIN! MY SON GOT ME A TEE SHIRT FOR MY 70TH, "UNIVERSITY OF KZbin-LIFETIME STUDENT". WE ALL LEARN FROM EACH OTHER, AND EDELBROCK HAS IMPRESSED ME TO NO END. YOUR TECH HAS A KZbin CHANNEL THAT GOES SO DAMN FAR BEYOND "CUSTOMER SERVICE" . OVER 50 YEARS OF WRENCHING, AND THIS IS THE FIRST ONE I HAVE ENCOUNTERED. SEEMS IMPOSSIBLE. WHERE HAS THIS CARB MANUFACTURER BEEN AL;L MY LIFE??? YOU GUYS ARE #1...AND I SAY THAT FROM EXPERIENCE...
@MuscleCarSolutionsАй бұрын
@@glennwmurphy1 thank you? This isn’t Edelbrock’s channel. I just do this to share my knowledge.
@glennwmurphy1Ай бұрын
WELL, THANKS FOR SHARING, JUST THE SAME.
@mjmorrill0814 ай бұрын
5 or 6 years ago I purchased a turbocharger from Chinese company for $160. The Borg Warner direct replacement was 1,000. Guess which one win in the car? When Borg Warner buys them they buy them from China, of course there's more testing and oversight but most likely that's the reality. I must have gotten a good one because these years later it's still working. I do however agree with you I would not put the carburetor on my car.
@JustinMiales2 ай бұрын
It keeps the gaskets pliable and it prevents them from shrinking in case that it's in storage for a long time
@bobmcdougal750127 күн бұрын
What keeps the gaskets pliable?
@MuscleCarSolutions27 күн бұрын
Thats not what stoddard fluid is for. It’s an alternative to fuel that doesn’t have the high flammability risks and allow for flow or leak testing.
@marlinguyaustin2 ай бұрын
Friend just bought one of these to replace a Summit brand 600cfm on his car. I installed it on his SBC and checked float levels and set the idle/air mix and it seemed to run fine. Shut it off and tried to restart it, but it wouldn't fire up. Poured some gas in it and it fired, but popped and died when I tried to give it gas. Looked at the primary bowl and no gas in it. Secondary was right in the lidle like it should be. Pulled the primary bowl off to check float and all seemed fine. Put it back on, poured more gas down the carb, and it started again. Primary bowl filled to mid window and then watched as the gas disappeared from the window again! It seems the needle or seat occasionally sticks and it runs out of gas. After a couple hours of screwing with it I removed it and packed it back up so he could send it back. It's just junk. Bought a rebuild kit for the Summit carb, and rebuilt that instead. No more problems.
@thegreatkimber37774 ай бұрын
As an European driving an american truck I stick to OEM parts as much as I can. In Germany it is very hard to keep US cars running, because those are very exotic cars over here. For example you have to take them to one of the very rare specialized workshops for repairs because normal shops do not touch US cars. It costs way more money too, 180 dollars per working hour at the shop is very normal, and you have very limited access to used parts. Every two years big discussions with the dudes from the technical inspection agencies who never saw an US car if the car is roadworthy or not. My Truck is halfway illegal due to the fact that spare parts for the truck do not have an european proofmark on it. If the cops stop you and decide that your Walker standard replacement exhaust has no proof mark and therefore it is illegal, your journey comes to a sqeeking halt. It gets towed away for a new technical inspection and a juicy bill for the whole shabang. And you can lose your drivers license for that too. For a tire shop it is somewhat illegal to bolt on bolt centered wheels because the standard is hub centered wheels. The list goes on and on. Pulling the chinese wildcard is no option at all...
@MuscleCarSolutions4 ай бұрын
@@thegreatkimber3777 we’re very lucky to live in a far less restrictive country, though we seem to be heading in that direction.
@pvanb22 ай бұрын
keep voting socialist...disguised as "mainstream, middle of the road"
@moparnut62865 ай бұрын
I'd like to see it installed on a running engine...it's one thing that bothers me about you tube. People rebuild a carb but never show it working on an engine... If Putting it on an engine drives the death nail in one of these knock off carbs so be it.... Same for some one doing a video on a rebuild... I don't fear failure...as it is the ultimate teacher.... As always you do a great job pointing out the details.
@MuscleCarSolutions5 ай бұрын
@@moparnut6286 time and understanding. The two things I fight. If someone buys a knock off expectiing to get a copy of whatever, I’d be under the assumption that they’d expect to have an understanding of what they’re receiving. Capable of running or not, with this carb, you’re not getting what’s expected. I’m sure at some point when I have the (time) we’ll show these on an engine and show the data. The (understanding) sets the expectation of performance. One has to come first! Maybe one time I’ll start with the result and go back and get the reasons why in a second video. Stating with the understanding at least points me in the direction of what’s going to happen when we do run it and I won’t run into an over or under fueling situation and hurt a good engine. I know with this one, I’m going to have to watch part throttle AFR closely and for sure transition AFR with that smaller PVCR. Don’t think this one is bad enough to kill some timing, but I’m guessing it might. Wouldn’t have known that without the knowledge first! All I’m lacking now is time……. 🤘
@staseghrrhgesats19465 ай бұрын
Small parts probably made it fine from China. Fedex are the ones that deliver boxes that look like they've played soccer with them.
@MuscleCarSolutions5 ай бұрын
DHL ain’t much better. Plus they aren’t very friendly going through customs, no matter what the carrier. And don’t put statements on the package like “fragile” or “do not bend”. They take that as a challenge! 😳
@ZahavaEversley4 ай бұрын
HEY kislux I have been watching you for years and im so proud of where you have made it! I love you so much! Also thanks for making my day
@williamprice39293 ай бұрын
What does Chimeu call it, a Hardley?
@reevesautomotivefarm96144 ай бұрын
I'm definitely with you. Not buying Chinese knockoff anything. American made equals better quality faster setup and long-term reliability and no screws going down the intake manifold.
@NoNeedForSensorsOnYouTube3 ай бұрын
They send the same extra hardware in every carb kit. That way they don't need to worry about whether it needs it or not. Also, Holley uses zinc in metering blocks, the other is pure aluminum.
@Hydrogenblonde4 ай бұрын
The difference in jet sizes and other restriction sizes is neither here nor there. A 600cfm carb can have any number of combinations of restrictions depending on the exact engine and chassis package. Even two identical cars but one has header pipes and a different intake manifold could require complete different jets, pvcr, accel pump, power valve and air bleeds, but both have 600cfm 1850s. You have to tune them for what you have. Nice of them to give you some extra jets or air bleeds.
@johnweaver84705 ай бұрын
Great info I'll stick to Edelbrock and Holley, look forward to seeing the test drive, hopefully it doesn't leak fuel and your GMC catches fire maybe throw it in the iron pile to be safe as always keep the videos coming, good guys in Puyallup is next weekend I'll be there
@MuscleCarSolutions5 ай бұрын
@@johnweaver8470 man I wish I could join you! Such a great event and an exceptional venue for it. Maybe one of these days I’ll get back up there. Have fun!
@stevestaples66505 ай бұрын
First time in MANY years I'm not going 😢😢. Several years in a row I worked the gates with the Gig Harbor Cruisers..
@T_Burd_754 ай бұрын
It looks to me like the carburetor wasn't so much modeled after an original Holley carburetor as it was copied from an aftermarket upgraded version of a Holley design. Can't wait to see how it works on an engine, how it actually performs.
@jvsyoutube32983 ай бұрын
those jets looks like what i got for my moped "mikuni" carburator..... and those numbers corresponds to tuned twostroke moped numbers on jets
@77chevy4x4Ай бұрын
Question watching the specs of the jets .. and materials made of.. Is it possible they designed it For the environment of e85 !? That’s just a thought 💭.!? Because of the standard deviation of gas in the times
@bw62985 ай бұрын
Thanks for posting this video and breaking it down. I bought my basic Holley 3310 in classic finish back in 1996 for $189. Now, as of the writing of this comment, the same carb is $574 from the Holley site (subject to change at any moment) and the 1850's aren't too far behind that. As a consumer, it can be tempting to fall for this crap because the price is so low but there's something so fishy about it and you did a great job with your video of exposing the utter garbage one can end up with if one falls for the "too good to be true" marketing. I am curious, were you confirm if the threads on the jets, power valve, bowl screws, idle screws etc. are SAE or metric? It would suck if this was discovered part way through a jet change or a rebuild.
@MuscleCarSolutions5 ай бұрын
Price of everything is up these days. Still plenty of cores available if it’s a carburetor you’re after. The amount of these knockoffs flooding the market should be criminal.
@72442conv5 ай бұрын
I remember that back in the 70's a Holley 0-4779 750 double pumper was $89, they are now close to $800.
@roberthollinshead23255 ай бұрын
You only probed the front half of the emulsion holes. They are much smaller than what you've shown
@vegahowell58134 ай бұрын
Case in point, especially when I'm dealing with like the situation. I'm dealing with people coming up to me and wanting me to work on their motorcycles and finding out there. A Chinese knock off of the Honda, 250 or a scooter or a Yamaha, 250 or Kawasaki, 250. None of the parts will interchange.They're very close but not at all. They even even go so far as look similar too
@steamsoldier5 ай бұрын
Nice video didn't know temu sold carbs, thanks for sharing!
@MuscleCarSolutions5 ай бұрын
@@steamsoldier big steaming piles of something that vaguely resembles a carburetor!
@SchneidersShop2 ай бұрын
I think the numbers on the jets is like we used on my car, and is flow numbers, not pin numbers.
@thegreatkimber37774 ай бұрын
BTW I am driving this "very rare" 98 Ford E 150 Club Wagon. There are less than 100 around in this country. People call it a "Chevy Van" or "the A-Team Car" because they don´t know better. Normal people never get the chance to see the difference, it just does not happen that US trucks are parked next to each other on the street. You may see one of the very rare F 150s or Ram 1500 from time to time over here...
@RobertDickens20023 ай бұрын
I was interested to figure this out and the best i can come up with is its in micrometers
@mikewatkins45124 ай бұрын
My experience with knock off carburetors is there’s no money saved. The headache of tuning those carburetors is not worth it. I’ve only dealt with motorcycle carburetors but they’ve been difficult to tune and finicky. That is not what you want.
@OneMoreBolt2 ай бұрын
jet sizes are 100% metric - ie 0.064in = 0.165mm That said, would be interesting to see a dyno test with size/type equivalent Holley carb (granted that the hardware was all pre-checked to make sure none of it goes through a motor. My gut says this won't produce the same numbers or the repeatability that can be had from a quality carb.
@landoncustomclassics5 ай бұрын
If you can afford it and give people a heads up and save them from buying a horrible product or possibly a decent product and save money it's cool!
@MuscleCarSolutions5 ай бұрын
@@landoncustomclassics check back in a week and see all the people completely ok with buying a knock off. It’s rather remarkable actually. This one is not great, but of all the knock offs I’ve reviewed, it’s probably been the best.
@landoncustomclassics5 ай бұрын
@MuscleCarSolutions I buy the like $15 lawn mower carbs. They've done ok. My brother bought a knockoff for my dad's Honda 4 wheeler. It wouldn't fire, but ended up being the tps sensor so we put the old one on and it's worked fine.
@ltclloyd2 ай бұрын
just convert metric to imperial so add a decimal after the first digit to chineese numbers it makes sense 2 mm is almost exactly .078 of an inch... and while not EXACT conversion it's close on the others also. 165 is 1.65mm etc etc.
@the_langss4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the Video....I agree with you...USA...I try to buy American Made where ever possible. However that being said, sometimes you just can't. I have a Lawn Mower that Briggs and Stratton no longer support. I had no other choice but to buy a cheep knock off from Amazon. Surprisingly, it works better than the original ever did even when the mower was new. Mower fired on first pull and everything fit just like the original. And like your example, they included extra parts, gaskets, screws, even an air filter. and spark plug. Faced with buying a new mower or fixing the old one, the choice was easy. Less than $25 vs several hundred.
@MuscleCarSolutions4 ай бұрын
Much different situation.
@jakecooper99003 ай бұрын
these appear to be similar to keihin large round motorcycle carb jets
@peterrivney5524 ай бұрын
How about putting it on a motor and see what happens??? (Don't Work) won't idle no throttle response stalls when you hammer the gas.
@MuscleCarSolutions4 ай бұрын
@@peterrivney552 watch the video! There’s a plan for running the knock offs.
@pauljesionowski16265 ай бұрын
You are measuring wrong. there is no way you have .081 emulsion. Are you measuring the lead in hole? Th emulsion bleed is at the bottom of the lead in holes. should be .026-.029
@ldnwholesale85522 ай бұрын
Jets are 'flow rated' Holley did that for a while and everyone hated it. I have done a China 350 2 bbl. Needle and seat was stuck which is common from being on the shelf. Used all Holley parts in it. Crappy finish but I had no complaint so I guess it was ok. Holley jets fitted but I used the ones it came with. Most Holleys are alloy these days. I have just bought an 850 Edelbrock and it weighs around the same as a diecast 3310. It seems some of it is alloy and some diecast. Read the Holley website, there is a dozen versions of the 600 and they all use different size mains. Ditto with a 750 d/p. I normally use those numbers to make the carb original again. So many idiots use small jets to gain economy,, and melt the engine or use bigger jets to go faster and usually end up way too rich. Though a dyno is the only true way of jetting. 350 Chev race engine with Dart 2 heads and a Victor Jnr,, 830 annular. as the book said 80s all round and it was good on the dyno. Went to Victor race heads with a 2925 intake and had tp go down to 76 all way around. The intake system was all far more efficient and required less fuel to do the same job. And it had over 40hp more and was far livelier from 5000-7500. But had nothing under 3500! You will find the Holley gasket does fit. 1850 and 1860 use a different gasket.Those bowl and metering gaskets are plain junk. As Holley ones used to be in the past! Holley have got way too expensive and have been for quite a while. So really do not deserve any special treatment. 650 spread bores are made in Japan! Would I buy one? Maybe for a stock engine, that is after I have been right through it. Though that costs money and time. I feel sure it would do fine on a stock gunker. Performance engine? Never. But a 4160 is never a performance carb ever.
@danielhammond84293 ай бұрын
To anyone looking into buying a knock off carb to cheaply got a project going.. please don't. U can buy quality name brand carbs dirt cheaply on the used market. Pretty well every town has atleast one old man garage with several carbs laying around. Holley stands by their used products and their customer service is happy to help with any holley carb regardless of age or how much u spent on it.
@jamesprice34035 ай бұрын
It’s actually drilled with metric drills 1.65 mm 1.70mm 1.80mm 2.00mm so the number is exact size in metric drills well as good as china drill bit tolerance can be lol
@zachbredeson79764 ай бұрын
The hardware they signed with you is probably a standard kit. They sent with all those type carburetors whether it has a choke. Cable or not, the hardware kit is pre-made for that. Technically, the choke electric choke version and they just send it in every kit. Even manual joke
@deanaf3 ай бұрын
@@zachbredeson7976 Exactly. They aren't spending time picking out a 2 cent wire.
@theshed88025 ай бұрын
Good review mate. I buy whatever gives me best value for money. As you have shown, the Holley is probably the better product, simply because you can get the parts for it, even if this carby worked we'll on an engine. I would be very interested to see how it actually runs and performs on a standard engine, as that is obviously the market it it aimed at
@MuscleCarSolutions5 ай бұрын
I’ve done a number of these knock off reviews. Sometime I’ll rotate them out and do a quick review of on engine performance out of the box and with what limited tuning that can be done. That’s what will end up killing them. There’s just no further support if someone actually wants to get them to run at their optimum performance and economy.
@andrewforster49745 ай бұрын
I work for a auto body shop and they buy the cheap Chinese knock off parts and I assemble cars and I'm always dealing with poor quality parts and fitment there is a reason they get the knick name cheap knock off lol
@MuscleCarSolutions5 ай бұрын
@@andrewforster4974 I was a manufacturers rep for quite a few years and had a client that brought in collision repair panels and parts. All China and ridiculously cheap. The mark up in that industry is insane.
@ToddMcF20024 ай бұрын
Other than the obvious throttle body screws issue I don't think your conclusion is fair without running it. Hope you follow up.
@MuscleCarSolutions4 ай бұрын
@@ToddMcF2002 oh we’ll put them on my mild small block and I think based on how unbalanced that metering block is, it will be very inconsistent. I’m sure even with the datalog there will still be plenty of people willing to support it. Maybe this fall we’ll do one video with all the knock offs back to back to back.
@mcf37783 ай бұрын
when i entered your numbers into a conversion app they definitely came close to a decimal value in cm
@billynomates9204 ай бұрын
people with the knock-offs are saying they don't care about the future their kids will one day get to experience. you can't get much cheaper than that.
@bigblock406ta5 ай бұрын
I got one and it sucked the accelerator pump didn’t work and after I fixed that it ideled ok ran ok light throttle but give it a some heavy throttle and gust shut down. I swaped out the Bowles on to a good old Holley body I had and it runs great with that carb body and the bowls off that pic of junk.
@Membrane5562 ай бұрын
Never tried the knock off Holley just the Carter BBD.
@januaryonenineteenseventy41955 ай бұрын
Can you drop a Holley metering plate in and put in a Holley rebuild kit since Holley is running carbs @ close to 900 bucks for a carb that needs a lot of work to use it brand spanking new. Run it on an engine at least after you go through it like new Holley requires. Sure we are all sick of Chinockoffs, but in the current market where inflation and American companies are charging far way to F'ing much for products trying to maximize their profits to the max and at the same time crappy support and no available product making you wait months. I have waited 5 months for my CompCams camshaft which I switched from Lunati since they could not give me a delivery date which was waiting months for, so I switched to Comp to only get screwed again. The rocker arms are still back ordered until Sep 28 when I ordered them as "in stock" on April 12th. Stop knocking people who need to get their old car running as economically as possible when you do not highlight the companies ripping off Americans, providing shizz support if any at all, and taking half a year to get the product.
@MuscleCarSolutions5 ай бұрын
@@januaryonenineteenseventy4195 😆 very funny.
@VinoRatRodbuilds5 ай бұрын
I like ur assessment of this carburetor. I know there's a lot of things that most people would not know if it was good or not. Saving money on this carburetor will just get you in trouble in the long run that's for sure.
@MuscleCarSolutions5 ай бұрын
@@VinoRatRodbuilds i completely understand saving a few dollars here and there, but yeah you nailed it. In the long run it’s gonna be more trouble (and money) than it’s worth.
@VinoRatRodbuilds5 ай бұрын
@@MuscleCarSolutions Yeah I've done some price checking lately. Things are pretty expensive but what are you going to do.
@MrTheHillfolk5 ай бұрын
If I built a fair amount of engines ,I'd get one and use it ,along with some other cheap parts like some tinfoil headers. Run it on a test stand first before giving it to a customer or dropping it in your ride and finding that rear main oil leak after the fact just sucks.
@joesdot32884 ай бұрын
I don't do knock-off ever.. Not worth my time.. Ty for the review!!! 🤠🤠🤠
@kensutherland4144 ай бұрын
Hmm. Why is it missing the discharge nozzle/ squirter?
@MuscleCarSolutions4 ай бұрын
@@kensutherland414 it’s a 4160 series knock off.
@yurimodin73332 ай бұрын
What gets me with these is that Asia is been well known for decades at being fairly good at just making a 1:1 copy of an item......(usually its captured military equipment). Why they went to all this trouble without just making it an exact copy is beyond me.
@stanleystrycharz25724 ай бұрын
I've never been happy with the low end, off the line performance of Holley carbs. Yes they do perform well in the upper rpm range and on race applications but I would always prefer a Quardrajet carb for an everyday street vehicle. The smaller primary style just feels better off the line and when the large secondary open when you mash it you know something happened. I also don't care for the Chinese knockoff carbs. There is always something strange in their thinking about how to meeter fuel. Great video. I enjoyed it very much. Definition of a carburetor = An attempt at controlling a fuel leak!! 😂😂
@mitchcardosi924 ай бұрын
The jets are metric, just like weber, mikuni, keihn, etc
@hackitgarage65033 ай бұрын
So would the Holley metering block fit and work on the temu carb
@MuscleCarSolutions3 ай бұрын
@@hackitgarage6503 not on this one. At least it wasn’t any of the VS metering blocks I had that would fit.
@kevin29603 ай бұрын
Im going to try the Edelbrock 4150
@LUCIDMOTO2 ай бұрын
What is that kit you use to test Jet sizes?
@MuscleCarSolutions2 ай бұрын
@@LUCIDMOTO I linked the kit in the description.
@LUCIDMOTO2 ай бұрын
@@MuscleCarSolutions 👌
@independentthinker89305 ай бұрын
If they are like small engine carbs, it's a toss up if it runs at all
@neilkratzer31825 ай бұрын
The biggest thing about it does it work on the vehicle. That's what everyone really needs to know.
@MuscleCarSolutions5 ай бұрын
@@neilkratzer3182 had to know what we were working with before the install. That way we know why an area in the rpm range works or doesn’t. Part two coming up where we put all these to a simple initial adjustment and a road test with AFR data. Stay tuned!
@stevehilligoss49824 ай бұрын
I agree with you, it really irritates me that its so hard to get ahold of quality American made parts.
@MuscleCarSolutions4 ай бұрын
@@stevehilligoss4982 depends on where you look. But without a doubt the last 20+ years have not been kind to US manufacturing. Given the cost of everything going through the roof and labor at an all time high. Insurance, consumables, raw materials. I’m thankful I’m at the end of my career and won’t have to deal with this much longer. I’m all for higher wages, but it does put a bigger strain on a system that was tipping towards the edge anyway.
@Red9GearHeads5 ай бұрын
I appreciate your videos! If you do a deep dive into Temu you’ll find most the products are made and shipped from areas of China that are rife with slavery. Barely sociable here on YT did a good video on it.
@christianwise4403Ай бұрын
The jets are in metric. 1mm=.039” the 200 is .078” 1.65 is .0645” etc interesting
@garnethart11373 ай бұрын
Was waiting for u to put it on s.thing and run it to see how it works. Good review tho
@MuscleCarSolutions3 ай бұрын
@@garnethart1137 we talked about that at the end! Coming soon.
@daneyzz1Ай бұрын
Are the jets in mm
@stevenmartinez80633 ай бұрын
Does it work, though?
@gettothechase6364 ай бұрын
I was hoping you were going to try this on a motor
@eddiea12134 ай бұрын
Will it do the job?
@vegahowell58134 ай бұрын
In all my experiences I've ever seen.When it comes to knock offs of any kind they cannot do a hundred percent 1 for 1all the cross the board due to patent infringement and possible lawsuits
@petemcpeterson62055 ай бұрын
Do they make a "chominator" too ?
@MuscleCarSolutions5 ай бұрын
😳 let’s hope not!
@mechanknuckle5 ай бұрын
I would LOVE to save money on an Ikea-like carb "kit". Hell, if I can buy a Holley HP for 1/2 price.. I'm IN!! But.. THIS? NO. Mostly because you can't get off the shelf replacement parts. This is great if you're just trying to get an old car running, but it's not for every day driving.
@MuscleCarSolutions5 ай бұрын
@@mechanknuckle it may “look” like a Holley, but when measured, it’s not even close.
@pauljesionowski16265 ай бұрын
Holley Jet sizes DO NOT directly correlate to the Hole diameter.
@GregBallard-e1p5 ай бұрын
Temu can sell so cheap because they compromise your personal info including selling CC numbers . This has been documented., and can be checked out with a couple key strokes.
@MuscleCarSolutions5 ай бұрын
I used the ex wife’s credit card. No one wants that info.
@MuscleCarSolutions5 ай бұрын
@@FinnellRacing smart!
@GregBallard-e1p5 ай бұрын
@@MuscleCarSolutions Lmao, Good thinking.
@skirkland19803 ай бұрын
The jet sizes are in mm.
@jasonmotes-l5e3 ай бұрын
1.65mm 1.95mm 2.00mm 2.05mm. It's that simple. Standard to metric conversion
@SeanJoseph-s2s5 ай бұрын
Money saved and not spent... great content and thanks...🔧🔧👍
@MVPisME3835 ай бұрын
The price is tempting I should've bought a brawler back when they wasn't 750
@MuscleCarSolutions5 ай бұрын
@@MVPisME383 prices rarely come down but man are things ridiculously high these days. Hopefully once inflation is better under control we’ll see some prices drop.
@gregeoryl4 ай бұрын
Is holley sti) made in USA
@MuscleCarSolutions4 ай бұрын
@@gregeoryl don’t know. Some they have made outside the US, but that’s their decision.
@milesgerschefske62312 ай бұрын
Cholley carb flow tested with primo gutter oil
@stevehilligoss49824 ай бұрын
I believe the o-rings on there to provide resistance
@MuscleCarSolutions4 ай бұрын
@@stevehilligoss4982 resistance to what?
@stevehilligoss49824 ай бұрын
@@MuscleCarSolutionsanother word that keeps it from turning freely
@stevehilligoss49824 ай бұрын
In the old Holley carburetors that use cork o-ring to keep it from turning freely
@MuscleCarSolutions4 ай бұрын
@stevehilligoss4982 the cork is there to seal it. It had a black rubber one on this carb. The additional o-rings aren’t necessary. Unless there’s something more awful to this carb that we haven’t experienced yet.
@BPattB5 ай бұрын
The knock off market on Amazon is crazy. To me it looks like they have almost doubled in price
@MuscleCarSolutions5 ай бұрын
@@BPattB eBay is just as bad and they refuse to protect American brands. Their VERO program to remove knock offs is a joke. I rarely use eBay anymore and I used to drive all my sales through that site.
@ДмитрийФакухин5 ай бұрын
I think, these numbers are jets flow on test bench, maybe cc/min with 1 metre of water column. Sorry for my language, I'm not native speaker. P.S. And my choice for my old cars are Edelbrock AVS2.
@MuscleCarSolutions5 ай бұрын
I’d love for that to be the case, but I’m guessing any high tech testing equipment isn’t on the menu for these knock off companies. Make them cheap and get them out the door is all they care about.
@MuscleCarSolutions5 ай бұрын
And your English or translator is good. 👍
@user-tn1hk6zm2freedom5 ай бұрын
How does it run?
@MuscleCarSolutions5 ай бұрын
That will be in a future video
@tngtacticalmiata12194 ай бұрын
I wouldn't run that on my worst enemy's car. You're just about guaranteed to end up with a butterfly screw in a cylinder somewhere. Which makes that a VERY expensive carburetor. And I'll bet the metallurgy is all over the place. Would be interesting to see how long it held up to ethanol....
@sporty1960715 ай бұрын
It's sorta like a carb that some Dumas says he remade special fer his hot rod yugo.
@MuscleCarSolutions5 ай бұрын
@@sporty196071 something like that. 😂😂
@claudehall78893 ай бұрын
One word JUNK. I bought a knockoff street avenger for a dump truck that had been sitting for ten years just to see if i could get it running. It is what I expected it got the truck running, but I will never buy one for something I care about.
@georgescott11804 ай бұрын
could you put in on an engine and see what it does?
@MuscleCarSolutions4 ай бұрын
@@georgescott1180 watch the video!
@56clipper23 ай бұрын
I find that anytime there is a knock off of a product is because companies have decided to have their products made in China instead of USA. This is why manufacturing needs to be brought back to America.
@courier11sec4 ай бұрын
The jet sizes are going to be metric. So will the air bleeds and every other dimension. All the passages and slots are going to be sized promotional to each other. You can't really compare component dimensions apples to apples. This looks like a well thought out carburetor and the fact they provide multiple jets is great. Also their castings look very good and a bunch of features are better. The transfer tube, sight glass, and mixture screw seals come to mind. Feels a lot like you're looking for things to nit pick. It's laughable being upset about a knock off of a carburetor design that old and it's not like holley is a mom and pop speed shop struggling to get by.
@dresdensvo4 ай бұрын
You missed the most important part , Does it run ?
@MuscleCarSolutions4 ай бұрын
@@dresdensvo had to gather the data on where it’s deficiencies are first, then we’ll test on a mild small block in part two. Stay tuned!
@PCgonerogue8205 ай бұрын
You only have to change a little bit to get around US Patents.
@MuscleCarSolutions5 ай бұрын
@@PCgonerogue820 the patent on that design ran out quite a long time ago.
@alank6164 ай бұрын
I see customs have inspected the item .
@joshruka46505 ай бұрын
You got it. Knock off is just steeling someone else's research and design. Good luck with rebuild parts. I stick to a known Holly. Thanks for the review.😊
@LionsTigersBears4 ай бұрын
As long as it runs fine and until you sell the car. Holley has lost its lustre after years and its doesnt run great like they used to.
@ford-speed4 ай бұрын
this carb is a copy of somethung ?? Its got a 750 venturie size and a 600 size base plate. Even at $89 its a gamble to try and run it on any motor.
@GroovyConlin5 ай бұрын
I wouldn't buy one, but the holley on my car was 720.00. This one was what you said, 90? This is why people go China. Can't beat the price. I AM guilty of buying a Chinesium carburetor for my mini bike😊
@MuscleCarSolutions5 ай бұрын
@@GroovyConlin it had just come out and I had a first time user discount. I think they’re about 300 right now. I’d still spend the 720 for the Holley.
@arwzqu19644 ай бұрын
Parts will probably fall off it into the cylinders of the engine while running.