Cheap V8 Shootout: What's The Best Affordable American V8 Classic? Mustang vs Corvette

[@TFLclassics]

Bid on this exact Mustang HERE: www.tflbids.com/product/1997-ford-mustang-gt/

[@BoardwalkBullies]

1996 up are basically invincible and wayyyy ahead of their time.

[@JTM1]

Why did the leather bra protector thing never get removed from the front of the Mustang? Throughout the series I kept expecting to see it go but it never did...?

[@ZLwh1ne]

You could have raffled that Mustang and made more instead of putting a reserve on it. 1000 entries of $10.

[@bonzainews]

Ok, Now its time to take the 88 Vette and set the Lap Record and beat that little 4cyl Ford around the Road Course you guy have set up...

[@john346x7]

I like both but would choose the Corvette. Something about the Vette makes time in it special. Cool to see older car comparisons. Keep up the good work!

[@c_solly5892]

I had a 97 Cobra for a handful of years and absolutely loved it. Still kicking myself to this day for getting rid of it, but I needed a truck more than a sports car at the time. So priorities prevailed in making that decision.

[@brady783]

You can stop kicking yourself and buy my 98 Cobra 😂

[@c_solly5892]

@@brady783 I'm sure I'd be spending twice as much on one now than I did in 2009 when I bought mine.

[@brady783]

@@c_solly5892 not really. But with the mods, it's twice as much car 😁

[@camtheatlien3882]

You’ll get another.

[@rickashcroft8226]

Corvette in a heartbeat. I like the Mustang and Tommy is right about it being more practical, but I have a 2012 C6 Grand Sport that I bought used in 2016 (replacing a 2002 Camaro) and I have to say driving it anywhere brings a smile to my face...

[@farmerbyron1]

C6 is the most attractive vette. Especially with the little back fender lip on the Z06 and GS.

[@TheEnd-eg6wq]

Don't think this thread is considering a 12 grand sport a cheap sports car

[@reallyemptypockets6509]

That Vette looks %100 bad ass👍

[@stevevice9863]

Hey Case, now that you have a Corvette you need a gold chain and a Tommy Bahama shirt. You can go cruisin' the circuit looking for Cougers.

[@camclarke9952]

And the mustang owner male or female wear dresses and high heels,another words 🌈 mobile.

[@philipwilliams3427]

🤔🤣

[@JamesSmith-no2cm]

I would rather have a tune port injection Corvette over an sn95 rustang... With the rustang you need a mullet and a good pair of walking shoes...

[@GodofIsaacandAbraham77711]

@@camclarke9952 wack comment

[@xNYCMarc]

@steve vice Kase, not Case. Just FYI.

[@koniseatskimchi5541]

the c4 vette do make great daily drivers. and because its a chevy, the parts are used in several other models, so parts are affordable. Do note, the TPI engines have room for mods that wake these engines up. carrol shelby even made a manual on how to supercharge. i have one.

[@matthewmckinley3629]

A lot. Just FYI.

[@hunterxsimple3821]

But you wouldn't suggest one as a first car (even if I was 26-29)...?

[@koniseatskimchi5541]

@@hunterxsimple3821 i wouldn't no, these cars require a driver that can handle them, drive an econo-box to gain experience. keep in mind, the older corvettes do not have driver aids! you disrespect it, an it will hurt you or worse.

[@ChrisHally45]

I couldn’t agree more always wanted a C4 growing up/high school etc but it was just out of my reach and I’ve owned 9 mustangs instead. I turn 43 this year ... it’s time I start looking for that stereotypical corvette 😊 that I adore so much. I like this black one too I’d take that. I’d prefer a 96 silver grand sport as my c4 dream car👍

[@koniseatskimchi5541]

@@ChrisHally45 good luck, and i hope you get a good one. dont forget there is a lot of trash out there that *looks good*

[@kevinFJ]

Great video guys. It’s nice to see the younger generation knowing so much about cars. Both of you guys are so polite and it’s been a pleasure watching you guys.

[@johnrossi6212]

I was 11 when the C4 came out and I fell in love with it. Mainly the digital dash. I remember my father took me to the dealer to see it, but it was all locked up. The salesman was nice enough to let me sit in it and look under the hood. I remember seeing the cool made in Bowling Green KY plaque and telling my father we would go there some day. It took about 20 yrs but we finally made it there.

[@Thumper68]

My 88 Oldsmobile cutlass I got from my grandma had a digital dash as well lol

[@jimfrancis2624]

Had a 91 automatic sweet car run 1405 in the quarter

[@BruceLee-xn3nn]

Alot of cars had digital gauges in the 80s. Some of the Nissan's would even speak to you

[@matttownsend3069]

I plan on driving my newly acquired 91 ZR-1 from SE NC to the museum in Bowling Green this spring.

[@MarksKicksOnRoute66]

Love these kind of videos from you two! Great examples of two young men that love classics. Keep up the awesome content!

[@toddbarkalow905]

I bet yall had a lot more fun racing these two than more modern vehicles!!! Love it!

[@MyKeeP81]

these cars are slow plastic-y pieces of dump

[@ChrisHally45]

So true

[@R3AL-AIM]

The LT1 is the one you get for the C4 Vette. Yes, they cost a lot more. You get a 6 speed and closer to 300hp.

[@scottburt3102]

The one you really want is an LT4 (or ZR1)

[@madeulook5872]

@@scottburt3102 that's a lotta money 😅

[@ImmortanDan]

I got one for under 9k. Now, the overall cost I've paid to keep it driving hasn't stayed that low, but you can still get the 6-speed, 300-hp, 5-second-to-60 beast at a very reasonable price.

[@R3AL-AIM]

@Billy Hamilton rookie? I'm confused lol

[@R3AL-AIM]

@@scottburt3102 well yeah, but that's slim picking and not for the average wallet lol C4 LT cars are getting hard to come by as is now days

[@jessekuchinski1172]

I always hate it when people swap the saw blade wheels for basically anything else. They just look awesome on c4s.

[@robertsmith1768]

The saw blades are the perfect wheel for the C4. I'll never swap mine out.

[@bonzainews]

@@robertsmith1768 I have 1994 Sawblades on my 1988 as well, On my 86 I have 1991 ZR-1 Sawblades which are 9.5" front and 11" Rear. The 1986 runs low 11's at over 122...

[@normiukkeli3739]

@@robertsmith1768 imo the salad shooters are the best ones, sawblades come 2nd.

[@azy9057]

Hell nah

[@m.m4982]

They look terribly dated LoL

[@2ChannelListening]

More of this guys, nice job. I think many, many viewers would like to see older cars at realistic prices and less of those $100K EV's. I just bought a 2003 Acura TL Type-S with 57K miles on it as my daily commuter, yes, clean title ($11,500 shipped). What a great car and I am getting 27 mpg on 89 octane. Love it!

[@MS-mr4zm]

100%

[@trenton.tchannel1810]

Just be careful with your transmission on your Acura. They were known to have transmission issues

[@MS-mr4zm]

@@trenton.tchannel1810 what about the 6 speed AWD ones

[@waterloo123100]

@@trenton.tchannel1810 Just service your tranny once a year and don’t beat on it. it’ll be fine.

[@AmericaFirstKorey]

What's interesting here, is the C4 Corvette would also get pretty close to 30 MPG. We owned two of them. My previous C5 Z06 averaged 27 - 29 MPG at 75 MPH.

[@DR.P3RKY]

If you want a c4, get the lt1. If you want an sn95, get the corvette.

[@borf42]

I have a Mustang GT (1999 coupe) and I've driven a C4 Vette, and I can say I loved them both. Faced with this choice, you can't really lose.

[@bonzainews]

When My 86 Vette was stock + K&N Filter I raced it (1995) it had 20 speakers, 4 Amplifiers, 4 Subwoofers, a 1/4 mile of wiring, and extra battery and battery isolator... It scaled at 3550 lbs with me in it that day. It ran 14.30, 14.35, 14.44, and 14.37 @ a best MPH of 96.6 and worst of 96.1 through a stock 700r4 automatic. If the stereo was not present I'm sure 14.0 would be possible. that was at a drag altitude of 1760 feet at lebanon valley dragway in NY on a 81 degree day sept 2nd 1995. I guess I'm never ever giving up HP by going up to a mile above sea level.

[@speedracerjeff]

I’ve owned both a 97 GT and 88 Vette. The non PI 4.6 GTs have zero balls lol. The L98 TPI C4 Corvette is way faster. Torquey and quick off the line but it also falls on its face in 3rd gear. The LT1 that came out in 92 pulls way harder at higher rpm.

[@ForeverDownByLaw]

The Corvette from that year is a 14 second car, not blistering fast, but not slow either. With a few tweaks it can be made genuinely fast, for short money.

[@jimfrancis2624]

I had a 91 I had the engine rebuilt and it ran a 1405 at 9

[@ForeverDownByLaw]

@@IamTiredofsociety Sounds right. Dunno what the issue was re: this test, but not sure altitude is the only explanation. C4's can be beastly with a little tuning, and definitely not "slow".

[@Hugo350R]

@@ForeverDownByLaw c4s definitely slow. Need engine swaps or boost to get them going. Even heads & cam on them isn’t enough. They’re cool cars though i miss mine

[@luckymanham302]

HCI 5.0L Mustangs were easily 12-13 second cars depending upon driver/trans. For another $3000 you could get a Vortec/ Paxton and have a 10-11 second Mustang, and for the same price or slightly more than a bone stock Corvette. Mustangs were great in the performance vs cost column.

[@bonzainews]

@@jimfrancis2624 my 1986 bone stock with an air filter went 14.30 @ 96.6 with over 200 lbs of stereo equipnet in it. (20 speakers and 4 amplifers in 1995) scaled it at 3550 that day. now it runs low 11's at over 122 with no stereo at all. I had to remove it because it permanently ruin my hearing... severe tinnitus resulted.

[@DrunkenChewbacca]

My favorite generation of corvette. Not a lot of power but I like the design

[@dougsmith6262]

Got to drive my uncle's Vette once that's just like the one in this video. Surprisingly comfortable seats, but nothing beats the all digital dash.

[@JS-nd1po]

The corvettes styling always seem lazy to me, it’s a triangle cheese wedge. They are great cars though. But I would never get one unless it was a c7 or C8.

[@carltongray3302]

If you get the LT1 or the grand sport with the LT4 plenty of power

[@Kodiak335-sn95]

Gotta be honest I love both these cars but the C4's look is just timeless.

[@Bostonharborwater]

Get a nice foxy body. Swap in a set of 3:73 gears. Some exhaust and a short throw shifter and you had a fun car.

[@ranbymonkeys2384]

I have a 85 Z51 Corvette and the torque is a 10 on the fun meter. The handling yields 1 G of force which was more than the Ferrari that year. Z51 was a handling package that includes a bigger sway bar, stiffer shocks, steering wheel travel is shorter and geared a bit different, and a transmition cooler. There is no traction control and ABS so you have to drive these things. Torque = FUN!!!! Also the auto is faster off the starts than the manual.

[@evilfinnigan]

Back in the day the fox body 5.0 would do in the mid 15s stock IIRC. In the mid nineties the fox body were the ones I was running up against mostly with my 76 Nova. I had an LT1 350 we built with dome top pistons and high lift cam making around 370hp. But the fox bodies with a bit of mods were pretty quick to run up against. Underdrive pulleys was a common mod on them. Seeing you guys racing really brings back memories of those days drag racing. :)

[@philllsxga.7737]

One friend of mine had a 92 notchback 5.0 the other friend a LT1 Z28 automatic the Camaro was fully factory stock... The Camaro would smoke the mustang. Then after the guy with the mustang did headers, intake manifold, exhaust rear gear and cold air induction he would be even with the LT1 to 100 mph After like 105 the Camaro would walk away...

[@midnight347]

@@philllsxga.7737 the lt1 is 350 cubic inches with a 6 speed manual and it's much newer than the smaller 302 in the fox bodies with their 5 speed trans. Compare a 305 camaro against that notch back and see what happens. Looking at taillights is what's gonna happen to the driver of the camaro stock vs stock or mod vs mod.

[@philllsxga.7737]

@@midnight347 🤣🤣🤣

[@alvin7089]

@@philllsxga.7737 I don't believe this. You act like he was racing a ls1 or above. I just find it hard to believe with the lightest version of the fox body you he could only match the camaro 0-100 and then afterwards get left again.

[@philllsxga.7737]

@@alvin7089 we were all friends and still are. The Camaro was bone stock and killed the bone stock mustang. After the mustang was modified, it could hang with the stock Camaro till around 100 MPH. Those guys raced all of the time with the same results. 302 mustang's we're TURDS!!!!

[@choward874]

My 87 with full bolt ons did 14.00 with an auto. It was a blast to own!

[@84jdgregory]

C5 FRC would be my choice for a cheap 90’s V8 to have fun with.

[@dennissmith7214]

“The mustang seats 4, and has plenty of room in the backseats”……….proceeds to show the front seat damn near touching the backseat! 😳😂😂🤦🏽‍♂️

[@ThatoneFRC]

absolutley love my earlyier c4 corvettes! ive got an 85 and 89

[@gumballer133]

The thing about the C4 platform is that they have great performance potential. Handling, Braking, acceleration. Of course the later models were the best, namely the Zr1. The only real downfall is getting in and out of the car can be fun.

[@kingvette7485]

I don't know if you have owned a C4, but you sure sound like you have. Spot on with your comment!!!

[@gumballer133]

@Kingvette74 I've had a C3 since May 13th 1997, my Dad has always had a C4 until recently he bought a C6

[@golfbravowhiskey8669]

I had a 1989 Corvette back in 1990. A friend of mine down the road had a 1989 irocZ my Corvette could never beat that car. He would beat me by half a car length every single time. Not to mention it was a lot better car and a whole lot funner to drive than that uncomfortable Corvette. I think that should be the next purchase TFL classic comes across is a 5.7 TPI IROC z

[@takforce06]

My brother has an 88 TPI 5.7 IrocZ. Black. Growing up in the 90’s it was the coolest car around

[@jerodlewis1356]

Ain’t no way a 90 iroc beating a 89 vette that vette had more power, more torque, lighter, and a better rear end. Maybe it’s driver error lol …

[@bonzainews]

@@jerodlewis1356 yes you're right. the vette driver was probably driving a manual and the IROC had to be auto... they all were. If you cant launch you cant win vs a auto. non drivers will be either made or broken at the launch. A friend had a 1990 5.0 LX fox 5 speed and never once beat my 1995 Cadillac Eldorado on the street. the Caddy went 14.70 to14.75 @ 95.7 to 96.1 at the track every run for 12 runs. His stang would run any where from 14.76 (best) to 15.80 (worst)@96-98 on the street he probably ran mid to high 15's at best. spinnin' aint winnin'

[@Pantheroful]

When the Mustang reved, my KZbin closed-caption printed out: "Thank you.“ Me: Took the words right out of my mouth...

[@C10sRule]

Couple of guys having a good time on a closed course!! Where this kind of fun belongs, thank you. I’m a little jealous!! 😂😂. Take care fellas.

[@mexicanbandito]

Not a fan of street racing? I enjoy it in the summer over in the city. Cops come by every so often to make us move and we go to another location in the city and race some more. Only have seen a couple guys get arrested and they were doing wild sht in there cars when the cops showed. Idk I don't see the harm I guess. 12am really no one around seems safe to me.

[@C10sRule]

@@mexicanbandito - There’s still some traffic though. You put their lives in harm. I don’t wish ill on too many people, but your group need a lesson. I just hope when the accident occurs, no one is seriously hurt,,,,,. Greedy, selfish, self serving, immature, narcissistic……. Pool your money, build a track and create some jobs, gain revenue for your club, become law abiding. Grow up?? You write well enough. Become your own boss.

[@midnight347]

@@C10sRule dude stop being Debbie downer and holier than thou.. There are ways to run safe on the street without endangering anyone else. Far as tracks they are closing tracks down everywhere there ain't many places people can go run their cars anymore man it isn't that simple. I wish they wasn't closing down tracks everywhere I wish they'd open more there is definitely a demand for it it's the stupid extreme left environmental idiots who cause all this bs.

[@midnight347]

@@C10sRule how can they pool their money and build a track when they're closing the things down all over? This hobby is under attack by everyone including you it seems. We just wanna mod and enjoy our cars and run them against others. We try to do that as safe for everyone as possible and unfortunately that isn't always on a track because of the things I've already mentioned. If traffic is thinned out or not around at all there is no reason you can't get a few pulls in with some people. You don't gotta do top speed runs or curve stuff just 40-120 type of pulls just see who does what just fun stuff. If people aren't around and it's in an open safe place with plenty of room it is what it is.

[@C10sRule]

@@midnight347 - I’m a retired cop and had to account for the remains of idiots like yourself, or your victims. There’s no legal or safe way of racing on the streets! I am far from left wing or an environmentalist. I believe in trying to do something to save the environment, but I also have a 40 x 60 shop, a 24 x 48 garage, a 40 x 40 garage and have a shop/warehouse I lease, all full of classic trucks & cars. From 38 - 875 hp. I love and drive them all, not one of which is a hybrid or EV. I’m going to build a classic vehicle as an EV and have a couple of units ready for a new power plant, either a 72 El Camino SS, or a funky 73 Maverick 2 door that would be fine and unique candidates for EV conversion. Great vehicles for the 100 foot dash competitions. If you can’t do racing legally, or on a track, don’t be so stupid to buy a car to race!! Eliminates the temptation. Maybe a side x side or a quad for some off-road fun instead. Some side x sides are ridiculously fast and it’s a lot easier to find a place to race those!! There are ways to get your speed kicks without endangering innocent others. You just get off on the thrill of street racing and the fear of getting caught etc. criminals get off on that too. You really need to grow up and figure things out.

[@dewdew34]

Rather drive the Vette for fun but daily the Stang would be more comfortable and just easier to live with.

[@imjustanobody1233]

The 1/4 is pretty weak man. You could’ve easily gotten into 14’s. C4’s are insanely underrated. Especially with the l98 you could do some exhaust work, tranny work, gears, and a tune and you could be running welllll into 13’s. With just a few simple mods, your l98 could beat many lt1’s 0-60 and a little above that. The lt1’s have some good power, but higher up in the bands. Don’t sleep on c4’s!! Cheap, reliable, easy to afford, and powerful! Not to mention they look badass😉

[@alanpaardekooper1148]

Really enjoyed the vid. Corvette for me - always love a clean C4 👌.

[@robertm2172]

They say it’s more fun to drive a slow car fast then a fast car fast. But what do I know I drive a 700hp car on the daily

[@skeeter1516]

That vette would do good with a ZZ4 camshaft, ported plenum, ported intact and decent exhaust flow. Tune is needed

[@pantheranegra2261]

Comp cam stage 2, PI heads and intake and for 4:10s for the stang

[@skeeter1516]

These cars are fun to upgrade. Not very complicated and very light comparison to modern cars. Easy to built up and dependable

[@CorridorCulprit]

The 88 had the best year for the Doug Nash transmission. C4s are criminally underrated. L98s are super cheap and easy to modify and bring up the power, handles way better than just about any budget sports car. When they say miata is the answer, tell them C4 is the right answer. Just bugs me that the corvette doesn't have the correct wheels on it for the year.

[@gumballer133]

Aren't those like mid 90s wheels?

[@marvnation924]

@@gumballer133 They're the later ones for sure, my 93 has them. I love those sawblade wheels though.

[@CorridorCulprit]

@@gumballer133 yes he has sawblades which started in '91. He needs to have the salad shooters (not turbine wheels, those are from 84-87) from 88-90 to be correct.

[@gumballer133]

@@CorridorCulpritOh yea nice! I haven't messed with C4s in a long long time,so I'm alittle rusty. Actually I don't drive my C3 anymore either, at least not in 6 years almost.

[@bonzainews]

@@gumballer133 yes they came on LT1 cars 1992-1996

[@SpyderRios]

The new edge with the 260 hp and 320 torque is the Mustang to buy if on a budget. I had one and it was keeping up with the 5.7 hemis when they first came out in the charger and challenger.

[@midnight347]

The one to get on a budget is a 96-98 cobra. 305 hp and forged crank and aluminum teksid block best block Ford ever had. Forged rods and pistons from making 700+ wheel hp and you can get into the 450-500 range on stock long block with a turbo. I seen one recently with 70k for 10k they can be had for that. That is a badass car

[@Droc-s197]

I think this would have been alot closer race if the top was up on the mustang... still very fun to watch these old cars

[@Yophillips3272]

Aren't the convertibles heavier and slower anyways?

[@Droc-s197]

@@Yophillips3272 correct. I'm not sure how much heavier the convertible sn95 is compared to the non convertible (even though I own one lol) I would imagine around 200 pounds difference...

[@deadstrider]

I remember shopping for my first muscle car and looking at 80s and 90s American stuff. At the time I owned a Honda prelude so that was my point of reference. I was shocked at how loud and slow the 8 cylinder mustang was, I straight up thought it was slower than my prelude. C4 was a ton of fun though, like a go kart. Needless to say, I went with a vette

[@jdfleetguy28]

Love the new Vette Kase. Very sharp car!!! Great job guys on another fun video .

[@joebunch3412]

I honestly love both mustangs and vettes from the 80's through early 2000's. I've owned both a 94 C4, and and 99 C5 (both coupes). But I currently own an 02 mustang Gt convertible. As mentioned in the video both platforms have plenty of aftermarket support.

[@ahmad1080p]

the C4 is becoming sexy everytime I see it

[@CuriousJefff]

Would love to see these up against any random modern day economy car for s's & g's.

[@angelgjr1999]

“Economy car” they still exist? Lol.

[@ImmortanDan]

I mean, they'd still blow an 'economy' car out the water. It's the midrange cars you gotta look out for lol

[@angelgjr1999]

@@ImmortanDan Yeah. Modern cars make decent hp but the CVT holds them back. It’s like constantly slipping a clutch. Lol.

[@CuriousJefff]

@@ImmortanDan looks like they made the video. You're right anything 1 step above the base in terms of performance would win. However these old cars have tons of support & are infinitely more modable for serious gains for significantly less cash.

[@vancity_coaster]

I used to have a 90 fox as a young guy and both those cars were slower. We always laughed at the newer ones till the cobra came out🐍

[@angelgjr1999]

SN95’s are pretty slow. You gotta swap the parts from a “New Edge” 99-04 to get decent power out of them. Easiest 45 hp “gain” you’ll ever get in a Mustang.

[@thebonefish]

Dat altitude really drags those numbers lol

[@6dspanda618]

I love my 02 mustang gt it’s so much better then those. Mine I only put a exhaust headers and intake on it. It’s one of the best sounding cars 4.6 sounds great. I like it because I can have fun without speeding too much.

[@karag6556]

To give the Mustang full credit, they chose the convertible which is not only heavier than the coupe but especially with the top down way less aerodynamic than the vette coupe. Had it been a regular coup GT it probably would have tied the vette

[@byronlocklear91]

If it would have been the cobra, coupe or convertible, it would have spanked that corvette.

[@jeffflaig362]

Probably not the c4 would still beat the mustang

[@jeffwalter8277]

I have a gorgeous condition Red 1985 corvette and I love watching these videos of these older rides

[@JosephHowes2003]

It's easier to get into the Corvette by putting your right foot in first, then sit down and finally pull in your left foot.

[@NewbombTurk.]

One thing I noticed you didn't touch on was the weight difference (little over 200 lbs) between the two cars. That and the hp difference explains a lot. A better comparison would have been with the 4th Gen Camaro.

[@robsolf]

I'm surprised it's that little, considering one is supposed to be a lightweight sports car, and the other is a convertible 2+2. Those C4's are apparently chubbier than they look.

[@NewbombTurk.]

@@robsolf Yes, they were heavier than most of the competitors in it's class. It's even more surprising when you realize it's not a convertible, which weighed more.....lol.

[@NewbombTurk.]

@@T0RP Well, it's honest competition in 1988 would of been a 911Turbo, Lotus Esprit V8, Ferrari 328 GTS, or if you really reach a Ferrari Testarossa (512 TR). Since the Ford GT didn't exist yet.

[@imkwuzn]

Corvette all day, everyday. Owning the twin to Kase’s C4(mine is white and auto) and a C5 convertible, may make me just a wee bit biased😉 The Corvette and Mustang are both very good and fun cars for the money but also very different. The Corvette is truly a sports car, the Mustang is more of a GT. (Hence the name).

[@Jangocat]

The Mustang would have gotten smoked even worse. That's a Mustang GT, so the fair Camaro comparison would be a Camaro Z28. I owned a 97 Z28 (same year as this Mustang) with a LT1 and 6 speed manual. There wasn't a Mustang that could touch that car at the time I had it from 99 to around 2005, Every Mustang I saw tried to race me from stop signs and roll ons. Loved that car, could brake traction in 3rd gear at 40 mph. The only reason I got ride of it was I got T boned by a drunk pulling out of a bar and the insurance company didn't total it, the car was never the same after repairs.

[@larrylarry739]

It's really good to see young guys who are into cars and cars that are more attainable for many of us.

[@littlebucks912]

1997 in h.s. my best friend got an 84 vette and I had a 95 mustang gt 5.0. The fun and stupid things we did was those cars made memories. BTW, when they were stockish, they were very well matched, each running the quarter around 15 secs.

[@merlinzipp]

Tommy's summation was 100% correct. Vette looks the coolest but the Stang is the better built. Especially in the interiors. Still, I would have a hard time choosing between these two.

[@tankman66]

True but on today's models that is definitely not the case

[@merlinzipp]

@@tankman66 Yes, the new Vette is in the supercar stratus now.

[@jasonpillars7516]

Is that a trick question the corvette of course

[@DavidSmith-tz9bx]

dude, you raced with the top down lol cool video though

[@mannyp.8519]

Corvette any day 💪🏼

[@Toymonkeyjr]

I'd take an sn95 over a c4, they're just easier live with and have less issues, and are still dirt cheap for the most part. Plus supercharging them is fun. C5 would easily dust it though, now that's a great value vette.

[@LargeFry1]

Of course the vette is quicker. its made out of the same thing as my garbage can. which is appropriate. because garbage

[@Toymonkeyjr]

@@LargeFry1 ? Sounds like you wish you had one.

[@bricebarefoot3437]

@@LargeFry1 Better to have fast garbage vs slow garbage...e.g., Mustang

[@LargeFry1]

@@bricebarefoot3437 You do know the engine in that garbage can is much much bigger than the mustang, right? And the vette is lighter, because plastic. You would think it would be MUCH quicker. which it aint. Also, the vette is/was at least twice as much money. So, yeah... I mean the vette is supposed to be a true sports car. Ferrari beater. (LOL) Not even to be compared to a mustang. All that being true, the vette is only a bit quicker. Pathetic

[@Hype679]

@@LargeFry1 For the record, both of these cars from that era were the absolute definition of "Plastic Fantastic". So that's less of an insult and more of a concession to a draw, compared to this day and age. Getting out of the Vette is like getting out of a bathtub. Getting in an SN95 feels like climbing into an old shoebox. The 4.6 stock tries too hard, the 350 stock doesn't try enough. So, yeah, C5/C6/5th gen 5.0 all the way compared to these two. That being said, all of these have endless aftermarket support and resulting potential. Whereas a Ferrari has to actually be capable to start in the first place.

[@emppowersportsandmarine6270]

Both are great cars, I speak from experience. I currently own a 2001 Roush Stage 2 Convertible that my father bought new when I was in high school. Prior to this we had two C4 Corvettes and dad had a third when I was a kid. Dads was a 1986, ours were a 1996 Collector Edition LT4 and a 1994 with and LT1. These are definitely the best bang for the buck, late model American V8 Muscle Cars. Overall the Mustang is better built and more practical with being middle aged and having a kid, but ….. we do miss out CE LT4 Corvette date car, from the pre-kid era. The Corvette was definitely a significantly faster car, and you felt very special being in it. My wife and I both miss the Vette and it was definitely more fun to drive then the Mustang.

[@TheHill08]

Y’all should’ve gotten a fbody to shootout with the mustang, hell if y’all are anywhere near socal I’ve got a 2001 trans am that I’d love to see how it stacks

[@Wrenchingredneck]

I'll take the vette any day of the week, WAY better looking, more power, better transmissions all around a better muscle car. the SN95 is kinda a grandpa car lol

[@elitepersonality9515]

I'm a car guy in general myself, so when I hear people argue over who's better, ford or Chevy I don't really take sides because I like all of them. Currently own my 2nd 94 corvette, my first was destroyed by a drunk driver. Never owned a mustang, have always liked them but just never bought one, maybe at some point in the future that'll change. I enjoyed this video, really like the older car comparisons..very entertaining and nice to see some good conditioned cars still around from the generation I grew up in..

[@mr.c493]

My first Mustang was a ‘98 V6 manual. I had a blast with that car. This gen has a special place in my heart. And it was red just like that one. However I used to drool every time I saw a GT but I couldn’t afford the insurance !!!

[@bldontmatter5319]

I can't even find V6 manuals of this era. They seem to have all been destroyed by young people

[@mr.c493]

@@bldontmatter5319 probably. I had a blast with mine. And all of my friends thought it was the coolest car. Including myself!!

[@bluesfool1]

I have a 94 vette same color scheme. It’s a great car and definitely a bargain these days.

[@LucidLoki]

I’m 41 now, back in the late 90’s these cars were the ones to have. Most couldn’t afford the vette so everyone else had camaros. I had a 240sx with a Sr20 swap. I never had a V8 sports car but nowadays I really feel like picking one up just to see what I was missing. I’m just hoping Im not already spoiled by the speed of my fbo and tuned 335i. Lol. Either way I would def tastefully mod the V8. Im an oem plus kinda guy nowadays, don’t want my car to be flashy just a great driving experience.

[@joshc606]

A few thousand dollars and some over night parts from late model restoration and you will have a 12 sec car haha. Great video!

[@colinhoward74]

It is interesting to note that that corvette , with the L98 and Doug Nash 4+3 was the bones of the Calaway Corvette , with project Sledgehammer pushing 800hp and Bugatti Veyeron performance in 1988 . Yep 254.3 mph still accelerating . The mustangs of that era have very little to write home about . Talking Corvette , if you chose , you could build that one into a Calaway if you wanted , remember the body mods are critical for cooling and breathing . My money is on that vette because its a nice clean example and , I would like to turn it into something like sledgehammer in power .

[@grabir01]

85 Vette with the Auto is the one to get.

[@Silverback_GMT410]

I’ve always been a fan of Mustangs period, but now I’m loving the pre new edge Mustangs even more.

[@johnross6314]

Hey TFL corvette owner. You need a alignment. I see it in the video sitting still. Also, get those injectors cleaned. Will start on first crank, plus add some more power.

[@AmericaFirstKorey]

To put it into perspective, under the old 'gross' HP rating system, the L98 makes around 300 - 320 HP, which is what you would see on an engine dyno. The intake manifold handicaps the L98, by at least 30 - 40 HP on the big end, but offers great economy & acceleration (torque) below 4,500 RPM.

[@TheEnd-eg6wq]

I'll give you $1,000 if you get a stock l98 to get 300 on the dyno

[@AmericaFirstKorey]

@@TheEnd-eg6wq Sure, place a stock L98 with an electric water pump, heated oil, chilled fuel & coolant, and dyno headers w/ collector extensions on an engine dyno. Do you understand the difference between gross & net HP? You would lose this bet, ten-times over. The L98 isn't a terrible engine, it's terrible primarily due to the intake manifold design. The manifold would work excellent on a truck, but not a performance car.

[@TheEnd-eg6wq]

@@AmericaFirstKorey Do you understand stock? Like I said?

[@AmericaFirstKorey]

@@TheEnd-eg6wq Have you ever seen an engine tested on the dyno? Of course you have. The same methods today and all the tricks listed above, performed by most engine builders for maximum power (in a dyno cell), were used back in the 60s & early-70s by the OEM (gross vs. 1972+ SAE net ratings). That's what I was referring to, and in that case, the L98 architecture, easily produces 300 HP (just look at the ET / MPH of a stock C4). There is another, 30 - 40 HP @ 6,000 RPM by changing the intake manifold alone, with minimal torque losses below 4,000 RPM. We're still talking about a 220 RWHP car stock with an auto, closer to 270-280 RWHP with a manifold swap / longtube headers / x-pipe / race mufflers / tune / etc. - so, who cares? The engines overall are dogs though, not worth even messing with in 2022 when the cost of a pair of cylinder heads, exceeds a JY LSx engine.

[@bonzainews]

@@AmericaFirstKorey you're absolutely right. I read an article on how the L98 rated at 250 Hp back in 1990 would be the equivalent to an engine that produced 330hp back in 1970... gross vs net. 250HP 1990 have run high 13.8-13.9. I've seen it at the track. My 86 when it was stock went 14.30 with 100's of lbs of stereo equipment (20 speakers, 4 amps and extra battery).

[@willvanwinkle2238]

I got an 88 corvette convertible red on red

[@Yophillips3272]

It would be mustang vs camaro, corvettes are on another level they always have. Granted it's 87 vs 97. But still lol

[@robsolf]

I think my main issue with the Vette is having a vette that could potentially get gapped by a Maverick. That Mustang is about taking the wife and kids to the beach on a sunny day and having a nice V8 noise going on with the top down. A Vette is about speed and race car dynamics. One of these cars is still relevant in its purpose today, and one is not. Oh, and having one car sticker twice as much new as the other, and yet have an interior that's falling apart while the cheaper car's interior still looks good? That's something worth noting, too.

[@StardustADV]

I am obsessed with C2, C3, C4, and C5 Corvettes, so my choice is obvious. Yes its just the pop-up headlight generations I like.

[@JawkneeJay]

I’ve owned both before. Really enjoyed them both in different ways, there is no loser between them in my book.

[@bubbalo3388]

The C4 is not quick by today's standards, but let's see a shootout with the C4 against a modern sports car on a racetrack with turns and let's see if people say it's slow then.

[@Jangocat]

Yup, was the first mass production car to pull 1g on a skid pad in 1984, it could hang with many modern cars on a race track.

[@TheMeanmarine13]

When I was a teenager I learned how to drive a manual in a 97 Cobra 32v Dohc. That car had just enough grunt to make it fun. I traded it on a 2003 Cobra a few years later. Here it's 20 years later and I wish I had both of them now lol.

[@aoclive6710]

What happened

[@matthewmccormack420]

The rims of the 1988 Corvette are on backwards (and not the originals). Both wheels of the left side should swap with both wheels of the right side. Keeps the brakes from getting too hot. I have a 1985 Corvette and it’s being restored, and I’m just a paint job away from completion.

[@destruxandexploze2552]

You do not get rewarded for ringing out the C4. That TPI quickly dies off after 4,500rpm lol

[@ostrich67]

I had a '96 GT Convertible in rare Bright Tangerine. I drove it daily for 7 years and I'd still have it except someone plowed into it when it was parked on the street. I recommend installing 3.73 gears. I did and it was a lot more fun to drive. It turned 2200 rpm at 70 mph and got 26 mpg doing it. And no need to downshift to pass someone on the freeway anymore. I just inherited my father's 2000 GT Convertible. Only 17,000 miles on it.

[@sategllib2191]

That's sad, glad to see someone else that had one atleast, since there was an only 700 made. I have a bright tangerine coupe that I'm still building up, has a 01 bullitt engine and intake in it currently

[@niceMange]

The lt1 cars were beast when they were working right...which wouldn't be very often lol

[@JeremyBanham]

For me out of those 2 specific cars, I slightly prefer the mustang, looks cool to me (Australian) on the outside and the dash is so much nicer, however if we’re comparing a later model c4 with updated rear and dash, absolutely no question it would be my preference

[@DarylCook63]

Nice comparison…except for one glaring issue: convertibles are much heavier than coupes (due to all the body reinforcement necessary to go topless), so it’s a definite handicap for the Mustang in your selection of performance tests. Both cars would be great choices for “fun”, especially if one spends a bit to enhance their power and suspension.

[@camgainzzTTV]

Recently purchased a 1993 6 speed, Ls1 c4 with a ls4 hotcam and a few other mods. Runs incredible. They are super underrated cars. I only got mine for 7k

[@midnight347]

You mean lt1 and lt4 hotcam?

[@napraznicul]

I've been driven both (my mustang coupe 5.0 not 4.6) and a friend owned vette (which was convertible and yes, vette is faster top end due to higher power/rpm and lightweight. BUT WHY you choose a convertible GT (which is waay heavier than a vette) and more than that, you raced OPEN TOP? You need mustang to loose for some reasons?

[@fritzmeynejr2983]

Corvette, however if you ad a test for the instrumention, the really old dschool orange digital guages would be a deal breaker. I looked at both back in the late 80's and went with a Porche9 51. Great video regardle, ,and lets see some more.

[@TommioRS]

C4 all day lol. Also im bias because i own a 95 ZR-1.

[@richdurbin6146]

I had a 2000 Mustang V6 with an exhaust and 3.73 that ran 15.73; I now have an 89 C4 with a 6 speed that feels much faster.

[@kurtisdavis9526]

Definitely would go with the Corvette.

[@brandonUwanawich954]

Top down is a lot of drag shoulda ran it with top ip

[@bryanpelayo1382]

Shoulda picked a new edge

[@JamesRS-tk6ep]

I have to say i would go with the Corvette because I actually had a 96 C4 and it was a blast to drive. Inexpensive and fun from 1st gear to 6th. All Corvette, all the way for me. :)

[@bradwilliams4921]

I would choose the Corvette. I was 14 when your 1988 model was released and I was awestruck by them back then to this day.

[@LateNightCable]

I think the C4 Corvette aged so well over the years, and are awesome performance bargains. Even the early ZR-1 which the market largely sleeps on today. For the price of a new Toyota Camry, a truly special Corvette can be purchased.

[@theplatinumog3283]

Lol really? A 97 mustang vs. An 88 Corvette? How about a 97 mustang vs. An ls1 97 corvette. Or even an 88 fox box vs. That c4. This video proves that mustang's are almost as good as 10 year older corvettes.

[@michaelthebarbarian3380]

The C4 is by far the better buy. Get an 89-90 with the ZF-6 and you will be gtg.

[@LakeHowellDigitalVideo]

Not really. All the electronics on the dashboard/interior and the optispark debacle make the majority of C4's a nightmare to maintain. The simplicity of the Mustang also means it is much easier to keep running. C4's are cheap because you also need to buy the tow truck to pull it. Take my advice as a former C4 owner, spend a little more and buy a C5 -- they are way more reliable.

[@michaelthebarbarian3380]

@@LakeHowellDigitalVideo I have had a C4 with an LT4 for years and zero issues. Runs like a champ. C4s also have some of the best engine compartment access of any car I have ever seen making them extremely easy to work on with few exceptions. YMMV, I suppose.

[@bonzainews]

@@LakeHowellDigitalVideo he said 89-90 they have a distributor and not an optispark...

[@MRMechanicRC]

Let’s be honest here. We all knew this was gonna happen. If you did the maro vs the stang it would’ve been a closer race

[@kennethisaac3799]

Definitely gotta go with the Vette. Bowtie baby!