Chevy Corvette vs Pontiac Trans Am Drag Race, Roll Race & Brake Test: Which Cheap Muscle Car Best

[@scottyellis3442]

Love these type videos, keep'em coming guys. And gotta say TFL is one of my favorite channels & the whole team.👍🏻👍🏻

[@Schlipperschlopper]

Sadly from 2030 on all combustion cars including classics will be banned from public streets in entire EU and Scandinavia :-( In Germany the Green Peoples Party gave order to shorten fuel supply from 2025 on by reducing all conventional fuel stations to only one state operated central gas station per city or county. Now they want to slow down all the gas station fuel pumps from 20 litre per minute to 2 litre per minute...From 2027 on in the EU certain car spare parts will be banned too....as exhaust systems, turbo chargers and even some engine and gearbox oils...California and New York will do the same from 2027 on.... So no investments should be done in oil burning cars any longer....They even created a new kind of crime here, called emissions and smoke crime !!!! (BABVVO laws!!!!)

[@The_Hi_Life]

C4s are aging extremely well! They were so far ahead of their time.

[@nbagoats4819]

Not really but Ok

[@AgentEran]

​@@nbagoats4819 c4s set several performance records that stood for decades before they were broken.

[@petermuller161]

As an owner of one, with the 6 speed, they are creaky and behind the times. It’s a beauty and sounds good though.

[@AgentEran]

@@petermuller161 newest L98 Vette is 32 years old, I'd say I agree with you lol

[@Thiccy_]

@@nbagoats4819 C4 was and still is great, and definitely was ahead of its competitors.

[@mikemartin6857]

My dad had an 86 corvette when I was a kid. All my friends thought my dad was so cool when he picked me up from school in it. Used to love those digital gauges and man I miss those leather wrapped steering wheels in them. Great video..... really reminded me off my old man..... lost him to cancer in 2013..... but watching this just brought up some great memories 💯

[@Prince_.A]

I wish him safe travels into the beyond. My dad had a 98 SS when he got out the Marines. I got a 96 Z28 a couple years ago since he is so busy with work and stuff to bring back those memories when he rides with me

[@1997SScamaroNOS]

The Trans Am needs a driver mod. That LT 1 has way more potential especially 16 seconds in quarter mile.😂

[@cubedmack]

Yeah, he did a horrible job driving the TA.

[@aab350z]

Back when these cars were new, I autocrossed an 88, non-turbo rx7 and had someone put an accelerometer in it to time me. I ran a 15.1 quarter with 150 hp. On a mountain runway. Lol.

[@jerrywright8882]

Yea i had a 96 TA auto car back in 99 and it ran a 13.89 at 100 bone stock,but im barely above sea level here in VA.

[@christophermorales1509]

As usual they have to remind everyone they’re running in Colorado where all times are way off what the mainstream is used to.

[@ArmoredCore5000]

@@christophermorales1509 why, are they racing up hill or something? 🤔

[@matthewanderson9912]

This is my favorite channel/series of all the TFL channels. I love seeing these 80s/90s cars. Maybe someday you guys will get your hands on a GNX. I’d also like to see some of the sport trucks from the era. The 454SS in particular and a Syclone.

[@NWI_Steel]

Something is wrong with that TA. LT1 should walk that L98 no problem

[@viziocamaro]

I agree I’ve been in both cars the lt1 should be a lot faster

[@BlackRam17]

Driver is shifting at 4800 rpms is the problem. Could probably use a tune up too

[@deznutz3163]

I was thinking the same thing!

[@GaryKing-o1t]

It is the driver of the trans Am that is the problem

[@АкаАка-ь2м]

That’s right

[@efstorms]

I have a 1994 C4 LT1 6sp manual and am in Arvada CO. Let’s do this, I’d love to see how the two C4’s fair against each other.

[@speedracerjeff]

Go show him what a LT1 can do. My 92 LT1 C4 was definitely faster than my 88 C4.

[@C5Cse7en]

would love to see this as well

[@cubedmack]

Please don't go and embarrass Tommy. Tommy really sucks at racing.

[@JonBecker81]

Like and comment to get Tommy’s attention. I want to see this too.

[@V8AmericanMuscleCar]

That would be nice to see.

[@kokocostanza2036]

Something tells me that T/A needs some more loving. I really can't figure out how an L98 was able to walk away from an LT1, even with the weight difference. Mile above sea level or not, thats at least 2 seconds slower than the usual 1/4 mile times. Not saying the T/A SHOULD have been faster outright, but it should have been a lot closer than that.

[@jeffflaig362]

I bet the ta has a trap speed about 1 or 2 mph faster. I've had several c4 tpi vettes and took them to the strip allot. The l98 runs better to about the thousand ft mark or 90 to 95 mph. After that the lt1 starts to creep ahead

[@Mattax355]

I used to beat 6 speed LT1s all the time in my L98. LT1s weren't impressive. The tuned runners helped rhe L98 run hard despite choking the engine at high RPMs. You can't look at just peak power. The L98 had a better mid range than the untuned 3" runners of the LT1

[@kokocostanza2036]

@The Logical Lifter Not just going by peak power, going by the numbers that I can find for both of their 1/4 mile times when stock. The best I can see is the L98 was somewhere around 13.9-14.1 and the T/A was 14.1-14.3. Here the 'Vette absolutely walked away. I'm not saying the T/A should have been quicker, but it should have been closer than it was.

[@TheSpeedfreak81]

Something is definitely up with that TA. The LT1 made WAY more power than that L98 C4 did. I used to own LT1 fbods way back in the day and would routinely mop the floor with L98 Vettes. It wasn't even a contest. I would lay money on that Opticrap, I mean Optispark going bad. When mine did, it was like a different car, like someone knocked off 75 or 80 horsepower.

[@cubedmack]

I know because I had a 88 5.0 mustang back in the early 90's and I had no problems with C4 corvettes, 350 TA's and 350 Iroc's until they came out with LT1 in 92.

[@JNAMOTORSPORTS]

That or they can’t drive

[@jesterokjones4954]

​@@cubedmackLol, it was all over after the LT1 dropped, I know the feeling.

[@Mattax355]

Nope. My L98 1991 Firebird Formula ran 14.2 stock and a 13.7 with free mods and a new higher stall torque converter with a 1.91 60 foot. The torque curve of the L98 plus the ability to stay in the same gear for so long really was a winning combination.

[@99mustanggt09]

Exactly what I was thinking Def an opti issue needs to just go 24x

[@jordancooper2717]

I love my c4 corvette never understood why they were so under rated. One of the most well rounded corvettes ever if u ask me

[@andydhillon1977]

I'm an import gut and bought a '94 6-spd on a whim. I am very impressed with the car. I've found myself wanting an '89 6-spd now, too!

[@jesterokjones4954]

​@@andydhillon1977why a 1989?

[@andydhillon1977]

@Jesterok Jones First year the Corvette got a 6-spd manual transmission.

[@V8AmericanMuscleCar]

Same! My favorite body style, especially 80s C4.

[@burntcoolantproductions8607]

That C4 Corvette is really impressive. Watching 80's GM be successful is like watching a Cheetah hunt successfully

[@angelgjr1999]

Them LT engines were ahead of their time

[@The123tactics]

@@angelgjr1999 It doesn't have the LT it has the l98

[@riteousrighthand6144]

@@angelgjr1999 The Pontiac is the one rocking the LT1. The LT1 didn't hit the C4, until 1992.

[@NHDude]

Listen to all that GM plastic rattle, I still like the car

[@hitek9too255]

😂😂😂

[@chrissullivan5752]

Union quality

[@garysmith4538]

Please keep these kind of series coming, I really enjoy them.

[@trenton.tchannel1810]

I think the TA need some love and a tune up. Definitely sounded a little strained when it was revved

[@V8AmericanMuscleCar]

I think so too. It should be at least a second and a half faster.

[@wallacerickmanii]

It absolutely needs a tune up. Before they even ran, when he revved it, I said something is wrong with that it.

[@RaneBoDasch]

@@wallacerickmanii I liked the sound of it to be honest but I agree it shouldn't sound like that lol

[@Whats-It-To-Ya]

I mopped quite a few C4 Vettes with my '02 SS. That Pontiac should be doing way better than it is

[@transitoryinflation7438]

They should switch drivers around and try again! I feel like the vette driver was the only good driver

[@AbolishCommunism]

GM should bring back the Trans am today

[@BlackRam17]

T/A needs a driver mod badly, that car has more in it that we aren’t seeing.

[@Jak2bossbf3]

TA either needs driver mod or something’s wrong with it. The LT1 will mop the floor against a L98

[@ghoul1603]

Watching this video because this summer I’m gonna fix my dads 1994 formula V8 firebird and I’m excited 😂

[@kevindavis5966]

I'd be curious to see a dyno on the T/A. Seems it should be doing a bit better on the acceleration runs. Perhaps the similar torque and lighter weight of the Vette explains it.

[@makara]

He said that he didn't see any need to rev past 5,000 rpm. He isn't getting the most from the car. Put someone in that can drive and you may get a different result.

[@1997SScamaroNOS]

The Trans Am needs a driver mod.

[@eatshit8907]

@@1997SScamaroNOS They both do, guy in the vette shifts slow, the other guy won’t rev past 5k. They’re scared to break something I guess.

[@JunkRacecars]

@@makara Another thing to note, those factory tachometers are horribly inaccurate and can be a couple hundred RPM off near redline. He was probably shifting at 4500ish RPM. The factory redline isn't until 5800 and the shift point should be around 5600.

[@speedracerjeff]

Dude can’t drive or the TA isn’t running right. My 95 Z28 LT1 always beat my 88 L98 C4.

[@tosil]

That trans am steering wheel/column shake and rattle is a little scary 🤣

[@enzofiero2924]

I noticed that as well and yeah there's a serious issue there!!

[@69olskool54]

No you can't get a T/A for less than $10k, you can't find them! Especially a WS6.

[@justinjoschko3018]

Bought mine for $4600 guy thought the motor was blown somehow snapped the cam on her 6speed manual t-top leather interior everything you can ask for

[@jasonhiebert2032]

Bought mine for 4,500 great shape.

[@stephenantonio3713]

That LT1, honestly should have pulled that vette.. Dyno the T/A, let's see what it puts down to the wheel..

[@Shibtember]

I'm a current owner of a 93 v6 Firebird, got it with 30k OG MILES and it's at 64k right now. I'm going to get a trans am in about a few months after my car gets resprayed and I'm SO EXCITED! I love trans am's. they're my favorite car.

[@deluxalpha4138]

Trans Am's were always the better looking sister to the Camaro

[@Shibtember]

@@deluxalpha4138 absolutely agreed.

[@deluxalpha4138]

@@Shibtember yeah its a shame Pontiac discontinued them in 02 and then a few years later GM discontinued Pontiac overall... real shame we never got another Firebird

[@Shibtember]

@@deluxalpha4138 i agree, rip the firebird :( wonderful cars.

[@claydand2420]

I have a 91 vette. Last year l98, first year body refresh. This old l98 with the 6 speed manual will make you smile all day. If you can drive it normal 30mpg on the highway is easy.

[@samotrx7]

Either there is something seriously wrong with that Trans Am or you guys cannot drive worth a lick. I used to drag race regularly at Pueblo drag strip and even the automatic LT1 Z28 cars were running high 14s-15.0's. And mind you at that time if you did not have slicks or drag radials they made you race on the unprepped portion of the track at Pueblo.

[@Pete_Finch]

Damn guys, I feel like if you ever get a chance to race at sea level it'll feel like you're doing warp speed. Great as always

[@IceTTom]

Stock Trans-Am of thatera and spec shoud be around 14.00 flat in the quarter. I'd imagine the c4 should be... high 14s, Which is BALLZZ quick for both these beautiful rigs! I'd LOVE to own either of them!

[@landonsrt9587]

Those are terrible times. I ran a 14.4 at 99 mph in my 95 Formula Firebird when I ran it back in 00. my 02 T/A ran 13.4 at 105

[@jeffflaig362]

It's the elevation. Those cars would be in the mid to low 14s at sea level. I had a 89 vette with a auto and 307 gears it ran 13.78 at 100 bone stock other then some mufflers and a rear y pipe

[@calinator51]

​@Jeff Flaig I have no idea why this channel and others in Colorado like that That Racing Channel or whatever do these. It's embarrassing to hear them list times with cars suffocating in that elevation. Just don't or move.

[@Brangeta]

The Comp T/A wins in every area, especially exhaust 🤔

[@Injectedracing]

You said the trans am needs maintenance…. You didn’t even give it a tune up before this race? I’m gonna say from experience that the LT1 should win a fairly close drag race. And should pull pretty decently from a roll

[@danielsullivan7381]

I have a 35th anniversary Corvette, 1988. Stock it's running 14.4 at 103 mph in Orlando Florida

[@bobdylan6773]

Bridgestone is some of the best tires you can get.. They are the biggest maker of tires for a reason.

[@johnsmith-ym3kx]

You need a driver mod on the trans am!!! Those keep up with C5 Corvettes!!! They don't lose to tuned port C4s!!!!

[@larrytemen4789]

0:54 my 88 vette with a manual trans ran a 13.6 if you don’t get close to that, give up on racing all together.

[@jbtOO7]

The TA -->needs a fuel injection cleaning maybe a compression loss and new differential fluid to check into and it should does destroy the L98 Corvette with ease especially with a manual.

[@Phalanx11]

I had a beautiful C4 '86 Corvette Z51 for 20 years. I was afraid to take it out of the garage because someone would ding it with theyr'e door.

[@motley1989]

The T/A should definitely be faster, especially with the 6 speed. The car definitely has an issue beyond driver error.

[@jayb3955]

yeah, but the vette is really small . on a none prepped surface i could see the extra 700 pounds being a problem for the TA.

[@rockoz28ctd]

@@jayb3955 lol more like 150 pounds more on the ta

[@BlackRam17]

It’s mostly driver I think, guy is shifting at like 4800 rpm

[@BlackRam17]

@@jayb3955 700 lbs what are you on lol

[@jayb3955]

@@rockoz28ctd I looked it up thought it was more but its over 300 pounds my bad

[@tonytims2497]

I had a 88 Corvette back in the 90s,and it came from factory with aluminum heads,that year being lighter than the T/A the LT1 didn't have a chance.

[@Phiidyn]

I hope you fixed the oil leaks on the Firebird before racing these :(

[@AndresSalazarAutos]

I have a Mazda3 turbo, and if you brake boost it for more than lets say 5 secs, it will bog down, so the best technique is to rev it and hold it to 2500rpm and release the brake and it shoots off like a crazy cat

[@AMF96]

Somethings up with that TA.. should’ve been faster than that L98.. my dad has a LT1 TA he bought new back in 93 and he beat an LT1 Vette .. was close but he still beat it.

[@jeffflaig362]

Probably more the driver then anything. All being equal the lt1 vette is faster but it also has 35 more hp stock and it's a lighter car. Plus don't forget the independent suspension helps it launch better

[@kimvaccaro2786]

My 99 z28 used to walk c5 s stock c4 would not stand a chance and f body are pretty light mine was 3490 with a quarter tank of fuel low 13 all day long at 106

[@kimvaccaro2786]

Lt4 on the other hand and zr1 those are those are the good c4s

[@jeffflaig362]

@@kimvaccaro2786 99 z28 is LS1 though. You had to have a 6 speed to run that quick in stock 99 z28. My buddy had a brand new 99 auto it would run 14 flat all day long at 102mph. I've seen stock c5 vettes run all over the place from low 14s to high 12s depending on if it was a auto or manual.

[@BlackRam17]

@@kimvaccaro2786 you were not walking C5s in a stock LS Z

[@terryrutherford2114]

I owned a 1988 Corvette Z51. It was a fun car. I also had a 1991 ZR-1, much more fun. I now own a 2011 CTS-V funnest of them all. Thanks for the video. I still love the old C4 vette!

[@speedracerjeff]

Rear end gearing makes a big difference… 3.73 gears really wake up the LT1 F-Bodies. My 92 LT1 C4 was way faster than my 88 L98 C4. The L98 has no top end and falls on its face in 3rd gear. They should compare a LT1 C4 vs L98 C4.

[@yourebusted5786]

Was not aware that a '95 was an early T/A. My '71 was just a dream, I guess.

[@carlos64030]

Man, I love these videos on older cars! Quite frankly, I think that Comp T/A is running rough or something, OOOORRRRRR that Corvette has been modified. Even though the Vette weighs a little less, that T/A should be winning those races. I have a 1997 Trans Am WS6 and I'm the original owner. Back in the day, my girlfriend had a 1996 Corvette which of course had the LT1 engine. Her car was an automatic and mine has a 6spd manual. At that time, my car was still new and bone stock except for a Flowmaster muffler. Her and I would race all of the time and our cars were pretty much even. The only time she would get a clear and definite win was if I had a bad launch. I can't honestly say my car ever walked her car, but again... the races were mostly even with her car sometimes pulling on mine by maybe a foot or two at the most. With that said, there's no reason why a 275/300 horsepower LT1 Trans Am should be losing to a 245 horsepower L98 Vette, even though the Vette weighs ONLY 275 lbs less. Get some maintenance or something done to the T/A and maybe you'll see some better results. Either way, fun videos and thanks for making this kind of great content that us automotive enthusiasts of older cars enjoy!

[@user-iz3gv5vo6b]

The firechicken needs a tune up. It's so much newer and more powerful, it should not have lost.

[@VroodenTheGreat]

The thing about the C4.... the tires make ALL the difference. I only went thru one set of those 10k tires, the pilot sports... I got a 30k set of tires, much harder rubber, lasts 3x as long. That car doesn't take off, stop or corner like it did with those 10K mile tires on it. It's still plenty fast.

[@ArmoredCore5000]

This is the most casual racing I’ve ever seen LOL! My stock 1991 Mustang 5.0 (only did an exhaust for sound) ran 13.9-14.3 all day long, and C4 Corvettes would always edge me out. This video is so casual it hurts to watch 🤣🤣🤣

[@gk5891]

My last C4 was a '96 LT4 6-Spd. It wasn't any slower than my C5 LS1. The none Grand Sports are almost unknown by the general public. They don't realize that ever '96 6-Spd has the LT4 Engine, not just the Grand Sport.

[@RomVlad]

I just purchased a ‘96 LT4 two weeks ago, an amazing car. It was at a good price and I think these cars are under appreciated at the moment, but will only go up in value.

[@gk5891]

@@RomVlad Definately under appreciated. They are a an absolute steal for a legit 175 mph Sports Car (They have a higher top speed than the GS due to the lower drag). The chassis is a bit flexible, but my '96 LT4 Z51 was an absolute blast at Road Atlanta and Barber during school days. The later Z51s are not bad street cars at all. To be honest they feel more like a Z52 (with less pitch and roll) than the early almost Race Car Stiff Z51. Really hate that I sold it, but I was out of garage space and something had to go.

[@RomVlad]

@@gk5891 Well, I just picked this car up, it has 76,000 miles on it, all original paint, accident free, very very nice condition,$13,000 . I just had my mechanic go over everything. It does need a new rear shocks, and it does have the F 45 suspension with the original shocks, so I’ll have to take care of that, but he was very impressed by the condition.

[@gk5891]

@@RomVlad That's one of the nice thing about Corvettes.. They are often weekend toys and can be very well kept with reasonable miles even after a couple of decades. I hope you enjoy yours as much as I did mine.

[@RomVlad]

@@gk5891 Thank you. I’m thinking in the future maybe some coil overs, another set of wheels and tires, but not really doing anything to the motor. I hope to keep it as long as I possibly can.

[@kyleshultis4246]

My 97 ws6 ran a 14.0 bone stock. It ran a 13.4 with full exhaust.

[@RegsChannel]

Great video guys! Well informed and very entertaining. As a Trans AM guy, I love seeing these in action! I feel like that TA could use a tuneup but well done overall!

[@speedracerjeff]

Yeah there’s something wrong with that TA lol. I had a 95 Z28 LT1 and I never lost to a L98 C4… The TA needs work or a better driver, or both…

[@RegsChannel]

@@speedracerjeff if I do remember correctly the TA was pretty tired, north of 100k miles? But still I expected a bit more. Also a 6 speed does require a certain amount of finesse to launch, if Tommy held it at about 3200k then dumped the clutch I think he would have got the jump, but regardless a good video!

[@dnegel9546]

Biggest problem with the LT1 is lack of maintenance. Cant say i blame them tho its a pain getting to the optispark. I just hope he does his research and does not toss out that mitsubishi sensor, just replace the rest of the cap and rotor. And get rid of that dexcool junk.

[@FWDSUXARSE]

​@@dnegel9546 First thing I did when I got my LS1 T/A was replace the deathcool.

[@dnegel9546]

@@FWDSUXARSE can’t believe gm still sells that thing. Supposedly they changed the formula or something. But i aint trying to find out. Took me forever to get rid off the dexcool in my lt1. Peak + water wet kept my temps in check without even changing to a 160t stat. 🙂 I couldn’t believe water wet actually worked.

[@jehb8945]

Like somebody else pointed out there's something up with that firebird considering it has over 60 horsepower out of that LT1 which is a much better engine than the L98. The power should more than compensate for the curb weight difference here

[@philtripi9937]

More like 285hp & 330tq vs 245hp 345tq

[@IceTTom]

Stock Trans-Am of that era should be around 14.00 flat in the quarter. I'd imagine the c4 should be... high 14s, Which is BALLZZ quick for both these beautiful rigs (for that time)! I'd LOVE to own either of them!

[@JNAMOTORSPORTS]

Bingo

[@geoufloaf5526]

most likely the trans am is a bit down on power and needs a tune up!

[@Floreypottery]

Always loved the ws6 hood but not the regular Camaro etc kinda unfair to go against a turbo car

[@brettedgar6733]

THAT TRANS AM LOOKS LIKE SOME SORT OF ELECTRONIC SCRUB BRUSH.

[@JPD617]

C4 and C5 Corvettes are such great performance bargains..

[@MrSrScott]

There's a reason why, L98 CORVETTES were, undefeated, in showroom stock SCCA endurance racing back in the mid 80s.

[@300mag83]

I had a 94 formula firebird with a 285 horsepower lt1 which I ran high 13s with so damn I don’t know what the sea level rate is here in southwest Missouri but 2.5 plus seconds seems a bit off

[@dennisjackson3531]

I have an LT1 in a camaro with a procharger ,big difference, try it

[@TheNinjaFam]

Where are you located? We've got a 2023 c8 currently in Utah that you can race.

[@bean-matic9322]

that would be fun

[@KingstonTV334]

I love how u guys got together and had a goal...now u r at almost 200k subscribers.

[@ThaPianoMan4]

I have a CX-30 Turbo. The trick is to just punch the gas on green. Power braking results in a very poor launch. Also, use manual gear mode and shift at 4800. There's a tiny shift response delay, but the turbo runs out of breath at 5000 and the throttle cuts out at 5500. I don't believe sport mode changes the transmission shift speed, only the shift points in full auto. It does act like a pedal commander though, sharpening throttle response. You can get similar performance in sport auto if you're able to get full throttle without activating the kickdown switch, but it's difficult to do. Once you hit that switch, it revs out to 5500 and loses some steam above 5000. It'll beat the Vette, I promise. Not by much, but it will. I have a few basic mods to my CX-30 now (80MM cat back exhaust, 3" intake, JB4 tuner) and it makes enough power to spin all four wheels in first and second gear if the ground is wet. 😂

[@Emilthehun]

I have both of these cars. 97ta and 04 corvette. The corvette is much better off the line , but the trans am is a burnout machine.

[@jerrydavis3202]

Maybe it's the drivers!!! First the TA sounds better & I have a fully loaded stock 86 TA. Only mod is a B&M stage 3 shift kit. Street racing w/ a 97 Corvette GS . Was tied every run. Was years ago but still have my TA. I was running on 97octane, you can't get at the pump anymore, so that dates it but I bet, put me in that Pontiac and results might turn out different more recently ran a 25th anniversary Z28 and he never had a chance

[@jakexou812]

Why couldn't they find an LT-1 Corvette made within a year or two of the TransAm? Would have made the comparison more interesting.

[@cameronnsettles9204]

Try to get the 1996 Corvette with the 6 speed manual and LT4!

[@richardrichard5409]

T Top T/A is heavier than tin top....but obvious way cooler😎

[@tangledline]

You guys are awesome. Doing all the races we did but never had the cameras or videos..lol. I had a 90/6 speed Vette-we modded as much as we could and raced a bunch of what you guys raced. The TPI system was awesome on Torque but the heavy ass flywheel'd ZF6 speed was its enemy. The TPI would run out of top end. That's where the LT1 came in. Great stuff never the less.

[@BlackRam17]

Awesome until 4500 rpms

[@irishuwould5185]

I love these older car races

[@woodysdrums8083]

I have a 95 corvette and a 94 firebird formula the vette is a superb car in every way

[@BlacksheepLSX]

Might want to shop c4 zr1 prices again lol no decent shape ones are under 35k now. I looked for a solid year before I bought mine, and prices kept rising. I spent about 7k more than I would have if I pulled the trigger last year. C4 zr1 is such an underrated car and the overlooked classic right now. When the c4 zr1 came out a 71 zr1 was 18k.. a 71 zr1 today is 350k and a 71 base car is 20k 😉

[@vancity_coaster]

Don’t worry, weight and maintenance are slowing me down as well🤪😜

[@Carguylogan]

My stock automatic 1992 Corvette went 14.75 @ 96 mph at 5100' elevation and 68° air temp using my Dragy. The LT1 makes good top end power, mine always went fastest when revved as high as possible before hitting the tev limiter, which was 5,800 rpm. For refference, at 1500' elevation and 45° air temp it went 13.8 @ 101 mph.

[@unexpectedbros9072]

F body for the win! I have an 01 T/A and they will be timeless!

[@jerzeytodd]

Something is very off with the acceleration comparison, I spent a lot of time running F bodies back in the day and this comparison would make sense if that was a LT vette, definitely not with the l98 lol. At the track the stock Lt f bodies were always running 13.5-14.5 and those L98 vettes 14.5-15.5. Think that TA needs a trip to the shop

[@ErokCherokee]

Hard to imagine my stock 5.7l hemi Grand Cherokee beats all 3 of those

[@hambonerodriguez4163]

I am the owner of a LT4 C4 Vette. Such a good car, so much fun to drive.

[@the_jarmel]

HAPPY FRIDAY ✌️...THANKS KASE TOMMY and Camera Ninja BRENDAN ...Have a good day everybody....

[@jeffreyreeves]

Yeah, there is definitely something wrong with that Firebird. They should've gave both vehicle tuneups considering their age before putting them head to head like that...

[@jesterokjones4954]

Man, you guys need to DRIVE those cars, WTF are you doing out there?!

[@JoeSmith-tu7vi]

Good job knocking 0.7 off the last time the TA was raced!

[@kdw75]

I had a '95 and '96 TransAm. Our current 2023 Ford Explorer ST beats it in every metric.

[@msully725]

Did you say you were upshifting the LT1 just before 5k? I think stock redline is like 5800k? Not to mention, stock gauge may be off (my 95 is off about 300rpm, so 6200rpm on gauge is actually about 5900rpm). So potentially you were shifting at like 4500rpm... thats leaving a lot on the table.

[@speedracerjeff]

Tommy is a horrible driver

[@andymesenbrink6946]

Glad I wasn’t the only one who noticed.

[@DNHarris]

Unless you need the rear seats you really have to be a muscle car fanboy to choose a Trans-Am / Firebird / Camaro / Rustang over a comparable generation Corvette. Oh, you need to 'de-esse' Casey's audio in the future.

[@C5Cse7en]

Enjoyed the content. I may be misremembering but the 90s f-bodies we used to race were typically faster than C4 vettes (stock for stock). The C4 driver is hot though perhaps he was more experienced. Still a bit disappointed in the Comp TA, perhaps a good tune up is in order.

[@JamesAMG]

These videos are awesome, but it’s crazy how times have changed. Modern sport utility vehicles would literally beat these performance cars of the passed.

[@slabbusterrtr7690]

Lete tell ya that 2.8 muti port FI v6 they put in in i think it was a 1987 or 88 trans am was awesome that year model am was best geared car ive ever saw it had great take off and top end gearing was so good

[@brandiwynter]

You guys keep saying you find these under $10k so I'm curious where?? I've wanted one of these TA's for years and years and I've NEVER seen one under $10k with the exception of 6 cylinder cars or cars that are so roached it would cost more to bring them back than a good one would cost. I combed every online source I could find after watching your last Vette/Bird video and couldn't find anything even close. I'm just curious where you're finding them at that price?

[@innerlightfilms]

Used to own a 95 Z28 with a ton of upgrades. It was pushing close to 500HP. I now own a 93 ZR-1 with mild upgrades. Some days I miss the Camaro, until I drive the Vette. The driver focused cockpit is where its at!

[@puppysayshi7848]

You have two winners there.

[@JonBecker81]

I feel like the Mazda didn’t get a fair shake. Can they not disable or partially disable the TC? Is there no sport mode?

[@michaelroberts6450]

I have an 89 model c4 with an automatic transmission, running it manually upshifting it 1,2,D it will go much better than just leaving it in Drive from a dead stop. L98 is alright motor. I know it can't compete with new muscle now in acceleration , handling it can pull 1.02 g's on the skid pad that's it's strength back then and now. I paid 11 grand for mine with 41,000 miles on it last month. Having fun with it.

[@BlackRam17]

Can confirm, I do the same in my GTA but have heard it isn’t good for the trans

[@brandonstewart7145]

Those L-98's run pretty good. That turbo didn't seem to help much this time.

[@juancamaney3562]

Trans Am Pontiac Fire Bird is the true American Rebel Muscle car. Hands down 😎

[@rodneykite8862]

Why would you shift just after 5000rpm? The LT1 makes its peak horsepower at 5000. You will run much faster shifting at 5700rpm.

[@clydemoreno1845]

HP is a blessing as weight is a curse. Feel free to replace thar nasty air filter in the TA.

[@thatoneguy985]

I just bought a C6 so all this corvette action has my blood pumping

[@doitdoits4109]

I bought a '05 base auto with 90,000 on the odometer 7 years ago for $16,000. The prices have gone way up on these but the performance to $$ is insane. I don't think you can buy more performance for the $$$.

[@wesalker3479]

Smogged up, Super Duty 455 used to turn 13's in factory trim, back in 1973 . . . . . TWO seconds faster than the big block Corvette of the same year. AND THEY WERE CARBURETED SMOG MOTORS!

[@cubedmack]

Please get somebody in that TA who knows how to drive!

[@bratton86]

14.01 in Texas Heat stock tires and a cold air tube. High 13.9s with a little cooler temps... 1995 Trans Am

[@lifebringsus4393]

Yeah texas is a lot different in elevation to where these guys are at. They are most likely north of 5000 DA.