The Perfect Speaker NO ONE is Talking About!

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cheapaudioman

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@darkpatches
@darkpatches Ай бұрын
My Dali's melted onto the furniture. The soundstage is surreal.
@greenbeginner9221
@greenbeginner9221 Ай бұрын
Love the reference to the Salvador Dali "Persistence of Memory" painting.
@darkpatches
@darkpatches Ай бұрын
@@greenbeginner9221 Oh yeah, I'd "forgotten" about that.... ;-)
@Kalikrates_the_witch_1
@Kalikrates_the_witch_1 Ай бұрын
😅
@nc3419
@nc3419 Ай бұрын
I wouldn't say sureeal but the way speakers should perform but many don't. Dali has that.
@waffle911
@waffle911 Ай бұрын
​@@nc3419 Woosh! Right over the head.
@russellnedland4569
@russellnedland4569 Ай бұрын
The Aero Press does make a right fine cup of coffee! No bs.
@Avruthlelbh
@Avruthlelbh Ай бұрын
It's honestly the cheapest way to get a good cup of coffee (with the basic version) as long as you're not after espresso, ngl. The real trick is not forcing the plunger down with all your might like you got somewhere to be in 30 seconds.
@cheapaudioman
@cheapaudioman 16 күн бұрын
@@russellnedland4569 yeah. Kind surprised how good it was
@CrashTestingAudio
@CrashTestingAudio Ай бұрын
My Spektor 1s on my desk are the only components I’ve purchased in the last couple of years that I haven’t even considered changing out. Love Dali!
@upper90football_
@upper90football_ Ай бұрын
Aero Press! I wasn’t expecting that. I use it every day, amazing product.
@bobmorris4670
@bobmorris4670 Ай бұрын
I auditioned a lot of speakers in the local audio dealers' stables a year or two ago, and this was the only one that hit all the notes, so to speak. Incredible detail and realism without being clinical, unlike the Dynaudio and KEFs. But he only had the white pair, and that was a no-go in this household. Tried the less-expensive Oberon 3 bookshelf model thinking that I might be able to get this Dali magic at a lower price, but there was absolutely no comparison. Just might have to break down and bring a pair of Opticons home to see how they sound in my spaces.
@Granfoss
@Granfoss Ай бұрын
I have the Mark I and love them! The sound is amazing and warm. I found that having the front covers on them reduced the harshness of the tweeter just perfect. 😊
@Audioloon
@Audioloon Ай бұрын
Hi Randy, Dali specifies that NO tow-in is needed and they suggest to set up speakers firing straight into the room. What you described in your listening review much reminds me of the Dali Ikon series which was discontinued a few years ago. I think the Opticon line up replaced the Ikon series and in the IKON series the 6 was consistently an award winner in Europe and always got good press here. I used to own Ikon 2 MK2, very large bookshelf speakers, with the dome and ribbon tweeter design. I liked them alot but at the time I had too much audio gear just laying around so I gifted them to a friend. Anyway, seems like the Opticon line just picked up where the Ikon line left off.
@CinemaDemocratica
@CinemaDemocratica Ай бұрын
*toe-in
@JesperSchone
@JesperSchone Ай бұрын
I have a set of Dali Rubicon 6. They are awesome, but also more than double the price. They do go 11hz lower and do deliver a boom. Especially in the movie "The Magnificent Seven". The boom in the beginning is just awesome. No need for a SUB. Thanks for a great review 🙂
@speedgripen6766
@speedgripen6766 Ай бұрын
What movie version, Original or new? Thanx
@bpalpha
@bpalpha Ай бұрын
Yup, Dali is kind of a sleeper in the loud speaker world except for across the pond. Great stuff. Aero press isn't a joke either. Innovative method for making great coffee.
@BruceLimozaine-c4q
@BruceLimozaine-c4q Ай бұрын
I should start a channel that focuses on the resale market. You can get some really great pre-owned monitors for $2k.
@darkpatches
@darkpatches Ай бұрын
You'll need to start two channels for stereo equipment.
@BruceLimozaine-c4q
@BruceLimozaine-c4q Ай бұрын
Haha, in deed. But seriously, look at what 2,000 gets you used
@darkpatches
@darkpatches Ай бұрын
@@BruceLimozaine-c4q You are absolutely right that $2K for used would be amazing. I'm fine with my mint Boston Acoustics CR9s that I got for $3.99 apiece. And my Ohm Walsh's for $200. And my Sony $500 receiver for $17. Plus a dozen audio components from yesteryear that I just love, regardless of cost. The Cheap Audio Man is really a misnomer, IMO and in practice. The only thing I've bought new based on his recommendation was a $16 DAC. Sometimes, you just need a DAC. ;-)
@mansolomd
@mansolomd Ай бұрын
Do it!
@danielmccarthy8386
@danielmccarthy8386 Ай бұрын
Resale speakers have often had some internal "DIY" repairs using cheaper components. I once visited the KEF factory in Kent and they told me 40 percent of speakers they had in for service/repair were not factory spec internally when opened and just sounded poor compared to when new.
@JR-ho5qm
@JR-ho5qm Ай бұрын
Nice to see a larger speaker review! Thank you! There is so much bookshelf stuff out there this is a nice change.
@mtoshii2530
@mtoshii2530 10 күн бұрын
I have these speakers. I’d never heard of Dali before visiting the store but was amazed by them in comparison to some of the better known brands, just lovely sounding and made in Europe too.
@TheChrisleekay
@TheChrisleekay Ай бұрын
The Dali Rubikore 8 Floorstanders are my new grail speakers!! At £6K ($8K) they will not be making an appearence in my system any time soon but sometime.....
@erics.4113
@erics.4113 Ай бұрын
Rubikore are where I'd go with Dali. Save up and buy one and done... Until Epikore calls hahah
@johnnyboy114
@johnnyboy114 Ай бұрын
Have a pair of Oberon 3's in my office and I love them. Bass is big and articulate enough, has a pretty "natural" sound to them, despite a little colouring and they are super sharp without zinging. I think Dali are a company that goes a little under the radar really. Oh and as others have said, Dali say don't toe them in. I tried both, Dali were right. Suspect they might know what they are talking about haha!
@marchuvfulz
@marchuvfulz Ай бұрын
Nice! Glad to see you have discovered the Aeropress. Though you should note, for travelers, that you still need a way to boil water to use it.
@garywatkins8823
@garywatkins8823 Ай бұрын
I’ve just purchased these and can honestly say I love them £1600. In uk and I can’t fault them. I sold my PMC twenty5 24s because I felt these gave me so much more( well done Dali)
@GeneralLao
@GeneralLao Ай бұрын
I recently bought a pair of PMC twenty 5 22's and they are an amazing speaker. Mind you i have them pairs with a Sugden IA-4 Pure class A amp. Great pairing.
@raggitaggi
@raggitaggi Ай бұрын
What amp is feeding your Dali´s ?
@garywatkins8823
@garywatkins8823 Ай бұрын
@@raggitaggi I use a Cambridge CXA 81 mk2
@raggitaggi
@raggitaggi Ай бұрын
@@garywatkins8823 that seems to be an very good combo according to you and others. There is a review here on KZbin with those speakers and mk1 version of the Cambridge 81. Seems to me that Randy in this video has something similar. I bought a pair of these speakers few months ago and still hunting for an Integrated amplifier that has good synergy with the Opticon 6 MK2. Haven't heard the Cambridge yet...
@garywatkins8823
@garywatkins8823 Ай бұрын
@@raggitaggi I don’t think you would be disappointed to be honest Mk1 or 2 both great with these speakers
@erics.4113
@erics.4113 Ай бұрын
With the Opticon, there is more than meets the eye! Wait i have another one. Dali is working on a new model that you can angle in toward the listener. With the Dali Kamel toe in is encouraged
@ivonemec4028
@ivonemec4028 Ай бұрын
I have Dali speakers Zensor 7 yes i know ist not Rubicon but i love the sound of dali and theres Philosophie of how a speaker must sound
@jeffreylehman1159
@jeffreylehman1159 Ай бұрын
I was just thinking it would be great to see Dali on this channel. Great job. And don’t let the haters keep you from reviewing great, affordable speakers.
@palmito22
@palmito22 Ай бұрын
Dali is always impressive
@sccanj
@sccanj Ай бұрын
I have enjoyed a pair of Opticon 1 MK2 for the past three months, in my opinion they sound better (to me) than: KEF LS50s first gen and B&W 600 series. An energetic, fast and lively sound without being too over the top is the signature of the brand. I can only imagine how a bigger Opticon or some Rubicon sound
@chloeleedow7250
@chloeleedow7250 Ай бұрын
Love all Danish speakers, dynaudio, Morell, Dali just the ones off my head... They definitely make some beauties, They are quiet very warm sounding from memory
@gamesessions
@gamesessions 24 күн бұрын
I use a pair of Dali Rubicon 8C as my main speakers for my TV, and they're fantastic. Easy to use thanks to ARC, and I've also added to some wireless rears (Oberon On Wall C), so I get great hi-fi sound at the front, and nice surround effects at the rear.
@MR_Garage
@MR_Garage Ай бұрын
I have not gotten to watch yet, but I also love Dali. Not quite as fancy as the Opticons, but my Zensor 7's combined with Zensor 1's and Vokal center have been exceptional. I very much enjoy their signature.
@christophermblanton
@christophermblanton Ай бұрын
Really enjoyed the review, and the branching out into hi-fi brands that don't get a ton of coverage. Your videos well made, and are very much appreciated. Keep up the great work.
@hotwater8473
@hotwater8473 Ай бұрын
Dali and canton speakers are my favorites I’ve ever demoed over the years.
@RenePolster
@RenePolster Ай бұрын
Never tow in Dali Speakers. They are built to be positioned forward direct. Its also on theyr Homepage....😀
@ms03938
@ms03938 Ай бұрын
in my room they sound better with a little bit toe in, always experiment!
@RenePolster
@RenePolster Ай бұрын
@@ms03938 Whem it Sounds Good for You then all is fine. But when you tow them in to much the Soundstage will be small and the Highs are to much forward Sounding.
@erics.4113
@erics.4113 Ай бұрын
I like a little toe
@MSiAventador
@MSiAventador Ай бұрын
I really wanted to switch from Ikon 1 to Opticon 6, and when I got ready to go to the store, it turned out that the stores only had the new Opticon 6 Mk2 with a huge overprice. 😡 In fury, I took a 4-month break from re-reading all world reviews of acoustics and bought ... MONITOR AUDIO Silver 500 6G. 🥰😘
@davidcarr6831
@davidcarr6831 26 күн бұрын
Opticon 6 MK2 are $2500, whereas MK1 were $2200-2500 depending upon what time you were looking. Very briefly during the height of the pandemic MK2 did hit $3000 but that came back down after a short while.
@tarodt7484
@tarodt7484 22 күн бұрын
Why not go for Ikon 6mk2?
@MSiAventador
@MSiAventador 22 күн бұрын
@@tarodt7484 Not neutral sound, not holographic. And the scene is pushed back.
@Brian_Romska
@Brian_Romska Ай бұрын
Coffee sponsor! Makes sense, I’m actually interested because my fellow coworkers have no clue how to make coffee that’s not gross. Also, good job on the review Randy, maybe one day these’ll be on my short list, thanks again keep it up man!!! Also, I can hear Optimus prime, “autobots, roll out!”
@ethimself5064
@ethimself5064 Ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@marct9587
@marct9587 Ай бұрын
I've heard Dali speakers multiple times and they always seem to offer a very nice and clear high frequencies, yet without distortion. And I think there may be something to Dali's SMC technology, as the bass articulation is great. I'd be interested in the Opticon 8 Mk2, but not for twice the price of the Opticon 6 Mk2.
@DankMistaPanda
@DankMistaPanda Ай бұрын
Hi! We met at EmoFest 20. I was the guy who asked for a picture at the end who was there for an interview. Super cool to meet you! Just wanted to say that the AliExpress review was very cool and honestly, I would LOVE a series where you review as many AliExpress clones as possible. I’d love to see how the McIntosh clone, B&W clone, Accuphase clone, etc work! Thanks!
@markorchard2272
@markorchard2272 Ай бұрын
I’ve had these for almost 2 months. They are fkn superb. I’ve gone Spektor 1>Spektor 2>Oberon 3>Oberon 5>Opticon 6. Every time the improvements are beyond belief. AIC MTV never sounded better. My local DALI dealer actually undersold these. They are easily better than 2x better than my Oberon 5s (which were great anyways). Yeah. $2200 is not exactly cheap. But better than anything else under $4500. I tried a pair of KEF R7 Metas against them. The Opticons are way, WAY better. The KEFs are much more expensive and DEFINITELY need a subwoofer.
@josedesouzajunior6688
@josedesouzajunior6688 Ай бұрын
all my home theater system 7.1 is Dali Opticon, they are neutraL, plus 2 subwoofers Rel T/7x and Receiver Onkyo TX-RZ 70 . You have a gret taste !! the center speaker Vocak Mk2 has 2 tweeter
@gwine9087
@gwine9087 Ай бұрын
I do not think anything is more subjective than speakers.
@darkpatches
@darkpatches Ай бұрын
You could get more useful information out of them if the reviewers did blind comparisons, but that's too much work. Instead they talk about burn-in and ignore acclimitization.
@danielwoodard680
@danielwoodard680 Ай бұрын
How about including Politics, religion, sport’s fanaticism and ice cream preferences?
@gwine9087
@gwine9087 Ай бұрын
@@darkpatches So blind test? OK, who is to tell them what products they should A/B, you? Get real.
@darkpatches
@darkpatches Ай бұрын
@@gwine9087 Sure. Use previous speakers which you've described with flowery and usually useless verbiage and compare similar speakers. CAM just had a video on cheap vs expensive speakers that sound similar. Put it to the test. I wasn't even saying do ABX (that would just be embarrassing). Just a simple blind test to prove to yourself and the world that you really like what you say you like. Might be some surprises. Much better than "I love this speaker more than life. But you might not!" and "I hate this speaker more than life. But you might not!"
@jukingeo
@jukingeo Ай бұрын
Indeed. What Randy should do as part of his review is to take some of these speakers apart and show us how they are really built. Most would be shocked that many of these expensive speakers are not worth their asking price. He should start with those Sonus Faber speakers. After seeinging the insides of those, then we can talk about what a ripoff the asking price is. That speaker shouldn't be selling for more than half its asking price...period!
@mcmillanvideos
@mcmillanvideos Ай бұрын
Nice to see you figure out what makes you get into music more as you follow this journey. I've done it and also agree a ribbon integrated well with other drivers is the best way to go; to hear the sweet details without the hard bite. (I really like Piega's.) Integrating a ribbon takes a lot of work... I can't believe Dali's done this much at this price. However, I haven't heard Dali's. (Functionally/WAF... They don't make it in a light color. Also a rear port isn't great for me/my space.. but you never know...) Front ports are a little more predictable and easier to position. But anyway, great review, and it's been a joy watching you find better gear that brings you closer to music enjoyment 'bliss'.
@raggitaggi
@raggitaggi Ай бұрын
Randy ! You have outdone yourself, excellent video, light years away from the dude that was comparing the cheep Denon amp vs Emotiva back in rhe days... We need some comment on tested amps with those Dali's, just a tease with dark Cambridge... Did you test them with A10 Advance Paris or what is your take on heavenly matching amp ? .... Best regards, Long time follower and fellow coffee drinker/ audio enthusiast
@gokhanersan8561
@gokhanersan8561 Ай бұрын
Auditioned Dali in Berlin. Fantastic line of speakers. Their flagship Rubicore 6 was 5000 euros. Endgame. But, again 5000 euros.
@questionyourself718
@questionyourself718 Ай бұрын
Could you hear such a difference between their 2000 euro speakers and the 5000 euro ones that you would say its worth it to pay more than double?
@gokhanersan8561
@gokhanersan8561 Ай бұрын
@@questionyourself718 There is a 30 percent sonic improvement-that makes all the difference. Priceless really. From our standpoint, as owners of $800 Dynaudio speakers, the 5000 euro Rubikore would be a meaningful improvement. In a better world the manufacturer would price the Rubikore at $2000 so that mere mortals could also go to audio heaven. They were powering those Rubiokeres with a $1500 amplifier.
@klaasdebaas007
@klaasdebaas007 Ай бұрын
I do have a pair of opticon 6 for a year now. Very good speakers
@Audiodreamer192-24
@Audiodreamer192-24 Ай бұрын
These are very interesting…. I also love air and detail. The design with the combination is very cool. Would love to hear it. Are you planning on keeping them?
@Simon_Hawkshaw
@Simon_Hawkshaw Ай бұрын
Dali speakers are definitely on my wish list. I think you indoctrinated me right at the beginning of our journey together. Take care, Sir, and thank you for all your content and support.
@sandwaves5642
@sandwaves5642 Ай бұрын
I've been around DALI speakers for about 25 years. By now, I've +/- figured them out : they do have a basic line, then a mid line, hi-fi line and hi-end. BUT here and there, they "hide a mine" in form of a pretty cheap series, that don't sound cheap. Today - it is the Oberon 1 ! If properly placed, they sound VERY good. Other models, with "super tweeters" depends allot on how they are implemented. In some cases they are for entertainment, or irritation the 🦟🦟🦇🦇🐱🐱🐶🐶🐁🐁🐀🐀.... Just a reminder to the Oberon 1 owners : If Oberon 1 are meant to be played louder than average - crossover components - better to be upgraded. They are very basic - still sound great, but will not tolerate long term high current .....
@nc3419
@nc3419 Ай бұрын
I have the Dali Opticon 1 and like its resolution and imaging. Tried the Menuet SE and it was too refined in the mids and highs obscuring some of the fine detail. On desktop, the Menuet SE painted a very holographic sound with really nice weight, still the fine details and some background effects were either less impactful or even missing. Sitting more than 5 feet away the Menuet SE started losing what it was good at and a pig for power. It will heat up your amp. The Opticon 1 MK1 didn't obscure the details, more subdued than some French speakers but they were there. Good on desktop or even 10 feet away. You lose a bit of resolution, note weight versus the Menuet, and only vinyl veneer but much more versatile in placement and great for watching movies given its imaging and resolution to voices. The newer Opticon bookshelves seem to have been designed to more mimic the frequency curve of the Menuet SE from what have seen/read and have a little less sensitivity versus the older MK1 series. I still think they will retain their versatility but will sound a bit less spicy in the highs. Still, the new Opticons should be easy to drive. If anything, I would have liked a real wood unglossed wood veneer, especially at the now higher retail pricing. I have Triangle Zetas too. The Zeta sounds larger, has more bass (less textured) and is more euphonic with music but less resolution, less note weight but I can prefer this with alot of music for a fun, more relaxed but still very engaging sound. It plays more complex music better being slightly larger. So I can swap between the two depending on my preference generally preferring the zetas for music and the Dali for movies but I could enjoy both for either. The other small speaker which I liked for movies was the ML 15i with a bit more clarity in voices and was fun with movies but didn't like for music. Sold that as the Dali had better imaging and spatial capabilities while keeping most of the clarity. The Emotiva B series small speakers have been stated to sound alot like the ML 15i. My main driver was the Focal 807W and currently up for sale but I may plug those back in as I have a new amp that really ups the transparency and space in a performance in the V/A CA-1. The 807W is more accomplished and a bigger sound but I like really small speakers for what they can do and don't listen loud either. I looked at Rubicon 1 as a potential replacement but I don't think I would gain enough to justify the outlay when the Opticon 1 with a small sub really shines. A bit more transparency and resolution perhaps and a nicer veneer but its marked down at $2K which is still too high to justify for me. The new Opticon 2 is stated to keep up with Dynaudio Special 40s. There a YT video on that. Still, it may or may not be the sound you may be looking for. But a definite must hear if you can. Not inexpensive for their build but they make good speakers. The Rubicore is supposed to up the performance but pricing is nuts in the US.
@bradpyles5322
@bradpyles5322 Ай бұрын
It is almost impossible to judge the sound quality of a speaker in a room with other speakers. I tried this over and over as an experiment in my 30 years as a hi-fi store owner if you listen to speakers in a room by themselves and then introduce another speaker to the room, it will drastically change what you’re hearing try it yourself
@kevinsheppard6085
@kevinsheppard6085 Ай бұрын
The Oberon 1 is an amazing speaker for the money, and I think is the best value speaker Dali make. I have heard many Dali speakers and own several pairs for differnt rooms, as a brand I think thy take some beating. Great to see you reviewing a pair.
@tallpaull9367
@tallpaull9367 9 күн бұрын
Aeropress is awesome
@AEvanseightyone
@AEvanseightyone Ай бұрын
I love that you compare this to the Emotiva. Can you list any other comparable loudspeakers...maybe Klipsch RP-8000f?
@T_Burd_75
@T_Burd_75 Ай бұрын
Who'd have thought that you can make coffee on a coffee table? Amazing.
@johnb4024
@johnb4024 Ай бұрын
There's literally nothing better to go with a good speaker than a great coffee. Welcome to the rabbit hole that is Aeropress
@thecman26
@thecman26 23 күн бұрын
I got nice slim towers for $60 on parts express. With a lil dampening and a good crossover. They sound great for $60 speakers!
@normanprincen6154
@normanprincen6154 Ай бұрын
Hi, Randy, love your reviews. A while back, you were doing reviews on DIY speakers. There are two speakers from HiVi/Swan that you may want to look at that have a similar architectures to these Dali speakers. The Swan DIY3.1-A bookshelf ($350) and the Swan DIY610 floor standing ($658) both have ribbon tweeters, a soft dome midrange, and a 6.5" woofer. Reviewers say they are a bit bright with the stock crossover, but there are good crossover mods from Sehlin to cure this and make them neutral. The best are Mod 5 and Mod 6, which require about $30 in extra parts. If you ever decide to get back into DIY, these speakers would be great to see you review. It really is the cheaper alternative to these Dali speakers.
@fabricehaesendonck196
@fabricehaesendonck196 15 күн бұрын
thaks buddy for all the info!
@joshuaestabrook
@joshuaestabrook Ай бұрын
You’re talented man. I enjoy the videos.
@ttownscott
@ttownscott Ай бұрын
Aeropress and Chemex are my favorite coffee makers. Aeropress for at work and travel, Chemex for at home
@billywindsock9597
@billywindsock9597 Ай бұрын
Rather splendid T-shirt Randall. Best wishes across the pond.
@DeepHorizon3773
@DeepHorizon3773 27 күн бұрын
All New Popori Acoustics Loudspeakers will be at the 2024 Capital AudioFest in Room 840. You don't want to miss this one...maybe the New Holy Grail of Speakers ?!
@MJ-ge6jz
@MJ-ge6jz Ай бұрын
For a CheapAudioMan you make good coffee commercial good Sir.
@ginom407
@ginom407 Ай бұрын
Great Review Randy. I've never heard any speakers by Dali but your review has peaked my interest. I hope they're at Capital Audio Fest! Thanks for what you do!!! 👍
@superdougie10
@superdougie10 Ай бұрын
These remind me of Spendor Speakers. And these are beautiful to look at.
@petertimp5416
@petertimp5416 Ай бұрын
My ribbon tweeter in my ‘Dali Ikon 8’ died and replaced with AMT. pulled apart the ribbon tweeters and discovered that the magnets go bad and the outer finish of the magnets peal off. But I love my Ikon 8’s 😊
@Mr.Rosebud
@Mr.Rosebud Ай бұрын
Been using DALI last 30 years. Always a safe card.
@jonathangonzalez327
@jonathangonzalez327 Ай бұрын
DALI and Q accoustics are up there when it comes to refined performance/price balance. You definitely can see and hear where your money is going with them.
@purrito4424
@purrito4424 Ай бұрын
The Aeropress premium is awesome and also looks exactly like a Starship rocket making a landing.
@theuvcrew2531
@theuvcrew2531 Ай бұрын
Great video; wish it was out 45-60 days ago, when I was looking for reviews of the Opticon. Found some Oberon reviews, but nothing good for the Opticon. Loved them from my auditioning them. Fully agree about the ample bass, and the superb tone and detail.
@The-Spotlight-Kid
@The-Spotlight-Kid Ай бұрын
..yeah, I've seen huge... (& apparently 'hugely expensive' to build if for measuring the longer wavelengths approaching down near to 20'ish hertz of v.deep bass) ...Anechoic Chamber's that a few u.k. speaker makers would rent for testing their products & advertise the massive anechoic chamber's "Freq Vs dB" sound output graphs in all the pre-net hi-fi mags. Japanese speakers advertised those graphs a lot too, tho those graphs don't hint at what you'll hear from the same speakers in your own non-anachoic nor wall-defraction edged & shaped living / listening room, tho upper mid to high treble is far more directional so the graphs might give clues at higher frequency in-room. But bass is important to me, the foundation in any genre where low harmonics of higher frequency gives texture & substance even to s voice like Joni Mitchell's, imo, & that's why I'll either need a home demo' or a "money back if not delighted" deal & pay the postage, just to avoid gross regret for my last ever speaker, soon, 'ish, it's not so easy when you ain't loaded with spare cash. P.S. i got a bass-drop area bang in the listening position whenever I use a long ago bought REL Q400 Sub' & wherever i put the d*** thing, it only does great bass when you're head's less then a foot from the side of back walls, I tried both phase positions to get no difference, 0 or 180' deg', yet many subs I've noticed, have a continuously variable 0 to 180'deg calibrated knob-turning phase offset adjustment, where i or anyone's room shape might call for a 90' Deg phase shift for bass at the listening sofa or seat, all my REL's 0 or 180'deg 2 positioned switch does is give the identical "bass hole" at the listening sofa. My next Sub' will not be a 0 or 180'deg only phase shift choice, many folk get lucky with just those 2 extreme offsets & position moving, not me, why do some very expensive subs give you a choice of any shift necessary, room dependant ..you just might need a 47'deg shift, or a 132'deg shift for perfect bass at your chosen listening position without having the sub hanging from the roof in front of your face, or some other trip-over stupid place.
@superspeeder
@superspeeder Ай бұрын
This is a 4-way design, the crossover points this out. The “super tweeter” is used up in its sweet spot, the oversized regular tweeter doesn’t go that high or too low, the upper woofer takes over at 2.2k and the lower woofer at 800 to combat baffle-step. Lots of crossover components I’m sure. Interesting the 1.25” tweeter isn’t playing lower… lots of 1” tweeters play lower than this, unless it’s in order to increase power handling to very high levels?
@davidcarr6831
@davidcarr6831 26 күн бұрын
The Opticon 6 MK2 is 2 1/2+1/2 acoustic design. This actually allows for simpler crossovers that preserve timing, phase and dynamic information that otherwise be lost. The magnetostatic ribbon is only protected by a capacitor, and there is no crossover above the dome allow the two drivers to fold together naturally. DALI has been don this for about 25 years now. Really magnificent way to take advantage of both driver technologies. The upper woofer has no high pass crossover, runs unimpeded into the bass. The lower woofer also has no high pass crossover, but its low pass crossover is tuned much lower. This increases radiating area in the low bass but keeps the cabinet small and the crossover simple.
@superspeeder
@superspeeder 26 күн бұрын
@ interesting. The large 1-1/8” tweeter must roll off naturally at the high end with little breakup. Perhaps it uses a simple capacitor high-pass as well to maintain phase with the ribbon? This would make the 2.2kHz high pass frequency make more sense. The woofer strategy as you’ve described is very likely to naturally deal with baffle step as I pointed out above; below a frequency related to the baffle width of the cabinet, output drops up to 6dB (the speaker goes from 1/2 space to 1/4 space radiation). Rolling a second driver into the mix below that point can nicely offsets that effect.
@davidflack1466
@davidflack1466 Ай бұрын
i have the former reference the euphonia ms4 (8000dollar new) bought for 2k used, best buy i have made in hifi so far. and you def gain a lot by going up the dali range i have tried and liisten to many. hoping to someday be able to afford a used pair of epicon 6s. here in sweden its a household brand
@D1N02
@D1N02 Ай бұрын
1500 euro on sale right now in Holland, just the black version.
@jdm724
@jdm724 Ай бұрын
waar dan?
@D1N02
@D1N02 Ай бұрын
@@jdm724 hifi punt EU, but they raised it. To 1700 now
@hotdog9262
@hotdog9262 Ай бұрын
always loved the dali sound
@andresnu2
@andresnu2 Ай бұрын
Dali Rlz! I have a pair of Rubicon 8, Amazing speaker!
@EricRhodeslives
@EricRhodeslives Ай бұрын
Great review. Nice to see Dali on your channel
@anxiousappliance
@anxiousappliance Ай бұрын
A whole lot of rock and rollers getting excited about double tweeters - a chance at hearing high end again!!!!!!
@jamesschneider3828
@jamesschneider3828 Ай бұрын
Same no tow in with Martin Logan Motion series speakers, harsh highs if firing directly at you.
@waffle911
@waffle911 Ай бұрын
3:00 Aeropress is like a good pair of speakers. It scales infinitely with the quality of the beans and the quality of the grind. 8:10 Center channel is a bandaid when the main pair has poor imaging. I've never found it necessary with decent speakers, and I hate the way center channels often have a different "voice" from the other speakers that breaks the immersion. Plus since a center channel is usually placed below the screen where the front sides can be directly on either side of the screen, it's less convincing because speech isn't coming from the middle of the screen but below it, where just the front sides can bring the ear directly in line with the screen.
@davidcarr6831
@davidcarr6831 26 күн бұрын
Center channels were developed to lock dialogue to a screen in viewing areas with broad listening areas. Its application is far more practical than as just a “bandaid” and is instrumental in making multichannel systems work well in a variety of situations.
@GeneralLao
@GeneralLao Ай бұрын
My Dynaudio Confidence 30's are the best speaker i have ever heard.
@sandwaves5642
@sandwaves5642 Ай бұрын
This Aeropress ad is at least as, if not more interesting than the rest of the clip 😁😁
@tractioncontroloff9796
@tractioncontroloff9796 Ай бұрын
Nice shirt! I love my Thruxton R 🏍️
@dr.cheese9378
@dr.cheese9378 Ай бұрын
What amps would you recommend for these?
@dr.cheese9378
@dr.cheese9378 Ай бұрын
I decided to go with the Wiim ultra with Rotel Rb-1552 mkII.
@chrisvand2678
@chrisvand2678 Ай бұрын
Good choice of amplification. DALI's love some current/power so a strong class A/B is the right way to go with DALI speakers. The more power, the better they'll sound..
@davidcarr6831
@davidcarr6831 26 күн бұрын
@@chrisvand2678DALI speakers are relatively easy to drive with a very benign impedance curve. The need for power is more about what the listener demands in SPL that what the speaker demands.
@davidcarr6831
@davidcarr6831 26 күн бұрын
DALI themselves recommend NAD amplifiers. I think the C389 makes a great partner for reasonable money and can be had with BluOS HiRes streaming and Dirac room correction integrated.
@bruceandt
@bruceandt 6 күн бұрын
I watch all the new offerings from you and others. I listen to Energy RC 30 tower speakers. Back in the day these cost 750.00 per speaker Canadian. These go down to 40hz . Cabinet build is so incredibly ridged it should be a standard today. Two 5.25 inch drivers and a one inch aluminum dome tweeter. I just keep trying to find a reason to upgrade these towers. So far.. I can’t
@morgande
@morgande Ай бұрын
I agree 100%, that coffee in the hotel for Capital SUCKS. Try to stop by Baltimore Coffee and Tea if you can. Much better
@rogerholloway1185
@rogerholloway1185 Ай бұрын
I have a pair of Dali Ikon 1 mk2 bookshelf speakers which have soft dome and ribbon tweeters.
@johnd7268
@johnd7268 Ай бұрын
For something slightly less expensive, what about the Tannoy Platinum F6 or B6 (bookshelf) models?
@markorchard2272
@markorchard2272 16 күн бұрын
UPDATE: After 3 months the bass just gets better and better. I heard the Rubikores... WOW dude..... much better.... just ordered some. (Internally DALI says Dali stands for Don't Angle out Loudspeakers Inwards)
@frankbrannigan2916
@frankbrannigan2916 Ай бұрын
Have you tried listening to the song Della Brown by Queensryche? Lots of things going on in the song. Right to the end you get the sound of some kind of birds on the beach. It’s a very intimate song. Love the show, enjoy.
@andyhagan6466
@andyhagan6466 Ай бұрын
Have a pair of DALI Opticon 1 (Mk 2). Small boxes, great sound. Got an open box a year ago for £599 I think? Cheapest DALI's that are manufactured in Denmark.......🇩🇰🎶🎶
@philtner67
@philtner67 Ай бұрын
My friend, what type of fertilizer do you use for your house plants?!! Those white flowers are enormous!! 🤣🤣🤣
@ON5ALE-Alessio
@ON5ALE-Alessio 18 күн бұрын
True rock speakers.
@hotelpv
@hotelpv Ай бұрын
Do these compete with the Arendal TXH s?
@themarksmanABP
@themarksmanABP Ай бұрын
Would a marantz M1 streaming amp pair well as a minimalist setup?
@christopherjonson4072
@christopherjonson4072 21 күн бұрын
I'm kinda pissed right now. I just saw the coffee ad and I've been working on a ball coffee maker with grinder. Oh,, and my favorite speakers are OHM C2's. When I made speakers at home, when I was younger, I took two dead leafless plants and hung the tweeters, mids and bass on them. Art project. They sounded awful. Time aligned the tweeters with analog bucket brigade processing. Yup Crap but fun for the evening🙄
@BrianSchliesman
@BrianSchliesman Ай бұрын
Do you recommend these for home theater use?
@6643bear
@6643bear Ай бұрын
Hi Randy , wow what an interesting speakers , I haven’t seen a speaker with 2 tweeters. Regards mark
@iainsolly2575
@iainsolly2575 Ай бұрын
Randy have you tried using the Lyngdorf amps for room correction or the NAD ones? I absolutely love the Lyngdorf. BTW I think you had the speakers too close to the wall. I have some rubicon 2’s and the need at least 1 to 2 feet behind them. Good review. Would live to see the opticon 8!!
@stuartwinter2758
@stuartwinter2758 Ай бұрын
I would love to see you do a three way comparison between these the emotivas and elac.
@zsoltszabo9184
@zsoltszabo9184 Ай бұрын
The Ikon series had the same double tweeter set up while it was produced.
@ms03938
@ms03938 Ай бұрын
how far away you have them from eachother and how far away are you sitting? i have the dali Oberon 7 and i don't really know how to place them.
@Mac11700
@Mac11700 Ай бұрын
I've heard Dali's before. They seemed bright and forward almost obnoxiously so even after burning in. For this amount of cash I'll take the Warfdale Evo 4.4's ..
@genecase9464
@genecase9464 Ай бұрын
Dali is on my bucket list. But I have way too much stuff right now.
@davidpartlow6188
@davidpartlow6188 Ай бұрын
Interested.. may be my step up speaker! Thx!
@thomasrobinson182
@thomasrobinson182 Ай бұрын
Is there such a thing? I'd say it is subjective and everyone has their preferences and favorites. Back in the days when HiFi was a passion for many of us, I came across some amazing setups one in particular being a Denon turntable, McIntosh amp and Infinity Quantum Line and Magnaplanar rear speakers I heard at an 'audio emporium' many years ago.
@EastFrisianRonin
@EastFrisianRonin 20 күн бұрын
Don't sleep on Dali.
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