Budget Audiophile DAC you CAN'T Own! Schiit Modi Multibit Review and other Options

[@cheapaudioman]

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[@reserva120]

I like the way you say it, I'm no prude, but it's gets exhausting after a while ,right.

[@christophervecchio7945]

Love your videos. I have the Cambridge Audio DacMagic 100. Have you every reviewed the DacMagic and do you think this outperforms it?

[@lexicon612]

Ok...I think your great...having said that, why the H E double toothpicks would you choose to use (as a backdrop) what we can only assume is a surround system set up completely wrong? Center channel a foot above the TV screen? really? I mean at least fake it...lol I recommend lots of therapy, and more coffee. I'd be glad to come by and set it up for you...smh.

[@a3marketing991]

I have the Bifrost dac, Freya + and Vidar (monoblock) amps from Schiit. I also had the Mani phono preamp for a long time and it's awesome. Schiit definitely has high quality products at very competitive pricing.

[@ChicagoRob2]

It took 12 weeks to get my Multibit, due to supply chain issues. It was definitely worth the wait. I find it superior to the ESS-based Modi 3 and JDS Labs DAC+. The Multibit is smoother and more analog-like, with great instrumental separation and soundstage depth. There is a sense of “ease” to the sound, which is free from glare and hardness. The bass is also bold and natural-sounding. One thing I found is that it takes some time for it to “settle in.” It should cook for at least 1-2 hrs, before serious listening.

[@cheapaudioman]

I think it's great

[@Corndog642]

Yeah, mine sounded a little weird at first but it’s recommended that you keep it powered on. I checked it the next day and it sounded so much better. This goes for all of the Schiit Multibit dacs. I believe Mike Moffat said to leave them on for best performance.

[@tonymosley6951]

1 hr warm up period indeed. As an added bonus, put a paperback book or something on top of the unit. It will give off a holographic or more open sound stage.

[@Jon-nz3dm]

@@tonymosley6951 I can't tell if this is a joke or not LOL. I do wish people would look into the psychology of audio experiences and our horrible memory of sound. So many people act like they hear a difference between cheap DAC's when they aren't even A/Bing them with level matched output, they're only stating what they think they remember the other sounding like. Crystals on your amp, expensive cables/interconnects, paperback book on your DAC, all do not change sound.

[@tonymosley6951]

@@Jon-nz3dm May seem funny 😂, but the whole point is making the dac run hotter than it is to get the effect. The guts inside rely on a certain temperature to sound it's best thus the 1 hr warm-up period. Just for fun, I run it occasionally. Don't know the longevity of the device, but the effect is there within 15-30 minutes after it runs on an increased temperature load. By the way, I have a schiit gungnir mb that takes 3 DAYS to warm up. Otherwise it is just dull and lifeless on a cold start. Thought something was really wrong with my system till after that 3rd day. Happy Listening 🔊.

[@mojoneko8303]

I bought the Ifi Signature DAC on your recommendation from a previous video to pair with the Elekit TU-8600S 300B Tube amp I recently built. I'm also building a pair of the CSS Criton 2TDX Tower speakers for the TU-8600 and for the front left and right speakers in a 5.1 surround system with my Yamaha receiver using an Amp switcher. I am pretty happy with the way the Ifi DAC sounds with my tube amp and Yamaha receiver. I wanted a DAC with Bluetooth capability so that was one of the main reasons I went with the Ifi DAC instead of the Modi. I get the impression from your comments that I could spend 2 or 3 times as much on a DAC on not hear a discernable difference between them. Thanks for the videos!

[@moclarkoagogo2603]

I got the Modi about 2 years ago for $100. It's now $130. It was like buying new speakers! Smooth, non-harsh sounding. Great clarity and bass. Best budget audiophile gear upgrade ever.

[@Barry101er]

Same here!

[@shipsahoy1793]

I agree as well. That Modi+ truly transformed the WiiM Mini (optical out) and Onkyo CD changer (coaxial out) switchable on the Modi+ into a Denon Receiver CD input and running Polks off the 100W/ch power amp on a Rec Room stereo system! Blew the freaking doors off the 16 bit converted sound coming off the analog out on the Mini, and even a bit better than the internal DAC circuitry on the Onkyo. Not sure why. I’m using a 6’ long, less than $10 coaxial cable.

[@midnightsocean2689]

You can't beat Schiit. The sheer amount of money you are paying most other companies for name tag/excessive profit margins/advertising/bells and whistles, immediately puts Schiit ahead, add to that Schitt's extremely good cutting edge designs and yeah, you really can't beat them. Not without spending literal truckloads of money. I had gone through many dacs before I found Schiit. Once I had a Schiit though, I never changed brand. I simply upgraded the model of Schiit I owned as I could.

[@Acharya_93]

@@midnightsocean2689 bro I'm new to this audiophile journey and I'm finding a good dac so yeah.. I need a dac with completely neutral no emphasis on any frequencies it should feel like I'm in the studio itself with every possible details and every notes we could possibly hear in any song with completely "as it is" which dac should i go. I don't have lot money to spend but I'm just expecting a good dac with what i have like for 350-400$ is my budget. Thank you

[@1mctous]

I heard the Multibit difference from the first note. It greatly reduced the amount of treble hash and noise so that my brain didn't have to filter it. (The Eitr DDC reduced it even further.) I could relax with digital for the first time ever in December 2016 shortly after Schiit started its production.

[@skipskipson]

Was looking at this one hard. But I couldn't take the wait time. Just got the modius. What a great DAC. Thunderous but controlled bass. Nice sound staging slightly warm but still resolving in the highs. It sounds analog. My CDs are giving my vinyl a run for their money. But I'm getting the Mani 2 today so....

[@StevoJacobs]

I managed to grab one used, and so glad I did. Unreal how good this sounds, it is everything I have been looking for out of my little audiophile system. Legit makes a lot of my digital music sound like their vinyl counterparts.

[@motorradmike]

Randy, the Modi Multibit (MIMBY in Schiithead shorthand vernacular) has been my go to DAC for my speaker and headphone listening. I bought the original v1 MIMBY about four years ago. Liked it at first but it sounded muffled in the lower and upper midrange compared to Schiit’s original Modi and my Project Pre-Box S2 Digital DAC. A while ago, year Schiit announced the v2 (current model) version was available and that the original version could be upgraded with Mike Moffat’s rewritten software filter chip. After installing the easily installed $35 replacement chip sent from Schiit, I was rewarded with much improved sound in the areas where the original was somewhat lacking. Now my v2 upgraded MIMBY is heads and tails superior to my Delta Sigma DACs for all the reasons you mentioned. Thanks for the great review, Randy. Pity Schiit Audio is suffering supply train issues with many of their most popular products. It’s a great company building affordable, well made American HiFi gear.

[@ChicagoRob2]

My Mimby has trounced every delta/sigma DAC I’ve owned, which sound flat, dry, and forward, in comparison.

[@ginom407]

I've been waiting for this comparison! I have both the Multi-Bit and the J2 in different systems. I love them both!!! I lean more towards the Geshelli but that could be because I just got it 2 months ago. You really can't go wrong with either one. Great Bang for your Buck!!!

[@cheapaudioman]

agreed

[@MrBenherrmann]

Just contacted Schiit (as of 18 March 2022) and inquired about why the Modi Multibit is no longer listed on their website. Received an immediate reply about the total lack of availability of different chips. For example, I was told that Schiit placed an order for a variety of chips back in May 2021 - none of which have arrived as yet. As a result, the Multibit series will be delayed indefinitely. I was also notified that a ballpark guess scenario is that, maybe, the Modi Multibit might be available in another 14 months or so. Bummer...

[@galacticbeat6328]

It's terrible anyway. I have no idea why people like that garbage.

[@imral3]

I had the regular modi for a couple years and was quite happy with it. Then after upgrading some of my other equipment, including speakers, I decided to get the modi MB. Wow, I was blown away at the increased detail and separation of instruments and soundstage. Deeper, wider and taller soundstage with space around the individual instruments. Just recently added the Saga+ and now things sound absolutely spectacular.

[@cheapaudioman]

I'm pretty impressed with it for sure

[@beefquiche]

What do you do for headphones?

[@imral3]

@@beefquiche I was using the Schiit Magni 3 to drive various headphones but, mainly HiFiman he-400i planar open backs. Sound was pretty darn good.

[@Chopstick2U]

I've been using the Modi Multibit for five years and this video just cured my upgraditis. I only wish it had a remote so I could switch between my TV and my Pi streamer without getting up. Fortunately, my kids love to "press the big silver button" when I give them permission. I put a Darko-style aluminum doorstop on top so it wouldn't slide all over the place.

[@Corndog642]

I too like the Modi MB! For me it just sounds more like music. It pairs really well with the Schiit Vali 2 headphone amp.

[@budgetking2591]

I assumed this would also be an headphone amp, mehhh...

[@quikspecv4d]

The Geshelli has a variable output level. Hold down the input button for 2-3 seconds to change it from low,medium, hight.

[@cheapaudioman]

when I say variable output level I mean something that can be used for volume control. fine adjustment

[@quikspecv4d]

@@cheapaudioman Oh. Gotcha. Makes sense.

[@Inmate999]

Best audio channel for regular folks who are into good affordable sound.

[@roverdad]

Would be interested in a comparison to the Cayin R-R dac. Roughly the same price, similar tech.

[@arthurkillen396]

I would like to know this as well

[@chrish4720]

I’m glad I purchased one last year, only took a couple of weeks. Well worth it at that price. Hooked it up to a pair of powered speakers for my desktop and the sound difference was immediate. I then swapped my powered for the inexpensive Sony’s. So glad I found your channel. Only issue i have is with the SMSL AD18…only works w/ optical cable. The other inputs have a lot of noise.

[@cpk313]

I find the NC Juice Pack to be a heady brew with musty underpinnings and tinges of elderberry and Lysol. Best consumed after expiration date for most potent audiophile enhancement.

[@cesartemio]

Great review Randy as always it all comes down to personal preference. I liked both of them but would rank the J2 bit higher than the MB. Used both on an Asgard 3 and an LX

[@NosEL34]

Nice, looks like a real winner. On a side note, Emotiva sent me an Email about there CD player/Dac combo and right below it was your face and review..You gotta have it!! You are famous these days on a few sights Randy..a real rock star. Good for you man 👍

[@7266355]

Thanks. I've watched a number of your videos now. I still have a question. What is a good, sub $200 DAC, intended to act as a soundbar replacement, with (1) a decent remote control, that i don't have to point directly at the unit to use it (2) optical input (3) bluetooth input. Thanks in advance

[@fifa3]

I'm dying for an honest comparison between the Modi Multibit and the higher end Schiit DACs, namely : Bifrost 2 and Gungnir MB.

[@MultiRalvarado]

Agree. Long time ago i saw a good review on iiwi and i decided to try it. I compared vs the Modi 3. IMO the M3 is dynamic an bright on music, good for Rock, rap, disco, R&D, techno, Electronic music. The MMbit , the treble is a “little” less than the M3 but is much better on the resolution and presentation of the music. The bass has more body than the M3, you noticed the difference immediately. The mids are beautiful and matching this on a tube Amp is a plus (i did). IMO good for Jazz, new age , instrumental, Solo Singers, orchestra. Recommend!

[@jasonc331]

Awesome review! And spot on with what you think, I hate using the term musical but it just sounded more natural strings and vocals were top notch and like you said the top end just sounded less harsh than the Topping and IFi. Glad you liked it ! It sucks that the next version will be delayed. As they were going to add their unison USB to the next version. And I will have that one too. Give it a spin with the USB on some headphones that was it primary use for me.

[@cheechthehat]

Randy, have you ever gone back to the Sim for comparison, now that you have had more experiences ? I spent nearly a year trying different amps for my Klipsch Cornwall IV'S. Started with a vintage Marantz seperates system, model 3300 & 250. I also had a Schiit Saga and Aegir, Rotel RA-1572 MK2, Pro-ject Stereo Box DS2 and a Sansui AU-990. Now, I use a turntable for my main playback, and don't use a fac at all, yet. But I settled on an older Simaudio, the Moon I5LE, the standard I5 can be had for around $1200. The Moon brought life and energy to the Speakers that no other amp was able to touch. Fast , and full bodied. I was considering upgrading to a newer Sim for the DAC.

[@ungarlinski7965]

So can this be used to play the music files on my laptop through my vintage receiver where my speakers are hooked up to? And it will improve the tinny and thin laptop mp3 sound?

[@josefernandez2722]

Thanks for the review. How does the MB compare with the Modius?

[@DKbananas]

Modi MB will likely be my work computer DAC upgrade. I can only listen at whisper levels, so something that brings the vocals forward would work well.

[@JTB--]

Schiit products are a great bang for the buck. I like their simplicity too. I currently have the Bifrost 2 DAC, Lokius EQ/Tone control and LYR 3 Hybrid tube amp. Schiit proves you don't need to spend a fortune to get a killer HP audio setup

[@timjordan1794]

I've had my Schiit Modi multibit for at least a year now, maybe 2 years now, doing duty for my computer system. It's tied to my Hafler HA75 headphone amp, pushing my Mr. Speakers Ether c flow headphones, and then PSB Alpha1 powered speakers. While it's not as good as my Mytek Liberty, it more than holds it's own, especially for the money. I do use it daily, using the usb input from the pc, to great results.

[@P194-s3i]

One big difference to note between multibit (r2r) dacs and other dacs is that the r2r is a completely custom design made and tuned by Mike Moffet of Schiit whereas an AKM, ESS, Burr-Brown based dac is just a plug and play type design where the DAC maker just builds the architecture around the predesigned chip of choice.

[@odwatchguy]

Great review Randy. Most of us won't be doing a/b comparisons of the dac's, so it is nice to know that buying either the Modi or J2 we will be getting a good experience, With the description of the sound it will make it easier to match one to the other equipment in my system. Thank you

[@cheapaudioman]

Glad it was helpful!

[@m4nc1n1]

Modi 3+ and Magni Heresy were my entry into desk audio. I have moved on since but really did not need to. I really like that Schitt!

[@jedimasternoob]

I would love to watch a review of the new Modi 3E

[@stevendavis1135]

Dude I've been saying the samething. It seems like NOBODY wants to cover the modi 3E despite all the great things i been hearing about it. I might just say screw the reviews and pull the trigger

[@Audfile]

If Schiit comes out with a really bold pair of monoblocks based on their new topology that's in the Lyr3, im in.

[@cardboardorigami]

I have a pair of Q100s brand new in a sealed box. Yes, I’ve been there before. Bought them back before the Q150 came out

[@swenerickson939]

HI Randy, could you please run your stack ranking of DAC's again sometime soon? I have a Schiit Modi 3 that I love but I am looking to upgrade. Unfortunately the multibit will not be available as you mention. Currently using a laptop but thinking of switching to a WIIM into a DAC. Thanks for all the great videos and assisting audiophiles with high value offerings.

[@johnmorgan6724]

Fruit juice! I love fruit juice! Z Reviews ~ complains that you can’t hear any difference in the Bifrost multi-bit . . . I think there have been similar complaints. But it’s putting up better number? So it’s doing something in its electronics?

[@P194-s3i]

Jason just announced Wednesday that we can expect a Modi Multibit 2 probably by the end of this year but if I were to guess than we will get it next year.

[@twisterbret]

Hope you get to test the new Modi E. I just received mine and I love it!

[@cheapaudioman]

I hope so too!

[@StevoJacobs]

@@cheapaudioman I totally want an a/b review with the two.

[@moniack]

The Modi 3 is available to order again on Amazon. I ordered one March 13th, and it should be here the 22nd- much faster than estimated. I'm very interested to see the difference between that and my 12 year old lower level Denon 1611 AVR.

[@stahng]

Totally agree with you. I love Schiit audio products. I got it all but just top models. Transparency and lifelike sound.

[@Nordraw]

I am so glad I have settled on a Dac/Amp and I am sticking to it for a good while. ( Fiio K9 Pro) all of these comparisons are confusing and tiring to say the least. Be gone! But nice review Randy as always fun to listen to.

[@langsuan123]

Excellent bit of kit. As far as DACs / Headphone Amps / Pre Amps go, you’re sorted. No need to spend another cent on these for the next decade :P

[@thornwithin6195]

Love your video Randy! I have my Modi on back order but excited to have it connected to my system! Get to get your insights on the multibit version!

[@cheapaudioman]

Awesome! Thank you!

[@redstarwraith]

I am about a 95% analogue guy. Yes, I have some cds and yes, I do listen to some streaming/KZbin videos when I'm searching around for new music to purchase. When I find something I like, I buy it on vinyl (or maybe cd). I called up Schiit Audio and was told that, "The Modi might be all the day you need." Well, given the ridiculously low price on that piece, I ordered one right away. I liked it so much, I bought a new CD transport so the Modi could do its thang with that. I've really been enjoying the digital side of things as a result. Hell, my amp/preamp is all tube anyway...

[@CinemaDemocratica]

I'd like to see a comp between the Modi 3+ and the iFi Zen AirDac. Price-appropriate and both great matches with some of those chip-amps that the channel likes so much.

[@Carl-bd1rf]

I have one these plus a cirrus logic, burr brown, and ESS. It’s definitely a contender.

[@jeethenmohanlalramboth31]

Hi Mr CA Man. Thanks for the informative vids. Looking to add a DAC, EQ and Pre Amp (1 maybe all) to my Klipsch The Five. Your thoughts?

[@DavidRFIT]

Something better than the Toppind D3X Pro + in a similar price range? Espacially for headphone out. Thanks!

[@jari121]

No. I think that the DX3 pro+ have better dac than the E30. DX3 pro+ headphone amp is powerful and clean sounding.

[@BumbiPuck]

Oh no, after your video about the zen one signature, i was so ready to pull the trigger, but when you mentioned it in contrast to the multibit, it sounded like it is a BIG difference in soundquality? Should i buy a zen now, or should i wait for the multibit being available again? :) Love your videos!

[@beezlebub3955]

I do like how you’re intentionally comparing 2 American made DACs, not too many in that realm

[@cheapaudioman]

IMO they are the 2 best dacs in this price category

[@beezlebub3955]

@@cheapaudioman I don’t doubt it, I’ll probably pick up a Geshelli in the near future, and wait some months till I can maybe pick up the Schiit used just to try it out. I love the customization possibilities with the Geshelli, and I live in central Florida, so it would be cool to have something good that’s local to me

[@JR-ho5qm]

I wonder if Emotiva will ever come out with a good stand alone DAC. I have a bit of OCD and am hoping they come out with one soon so I can jump on the DAC game. 🔈👍🏻 matching components

[@willmac5642]

Emotiva shd do a streamer.

[@audiofile1178]

So between this and RU6 as a DAC, which do you think is better?

[@GilmoreDavis-x6v]

Hi Randy thanks for the great review. I'm a little confused because I saw your review on the ares 2 dac and heard other reviews how good they are And you even recommend if buying a $330 to $500 dac maybe save up and get the ares 2 instead. So I reallly checked them out but they have gone up in price considerably to almost $1500 with custom and taxes. So I think I will stick with the modi multibit and Vali +2 hybrid tube ear phone amp.which should give me a little warmer sound. I will then save for the Ares 2 maybe 2 years down the road and purchase that. Or maybe Schiit by then will have something to replace the Ares 2 but a little less expensive and made in US. I appreciate all the advice. Do you have anything available like buying you a cup of coffee or donation through patrion. To show my appreciation. Thanks again Bo Davis

[@GilmoreDavis-x6v]

I'm sorry Randy I was wrong I. Think you can get the Ares 2 not the 12th annver. For around $1100 in Thailand where I live.

[@beefnoodles95]

so the gesheili j2 is decent alternative seeing as multibit is out of commission for a good while?

[@DavidNewellSR]

Randy, so if you had to pick between this and the J2, which would it be and why?

[@AlarusOne]

Great review as always Randy! Love your stuff and insights. Schiit makes such great gear. If you want to be blown away by a DAC try the Schiit Gungnir, it's awesome. But definitely NOT cheap audio. XD

[@stephanefalardeau9506]

Hi I listen to you video It is useful. Those that chiit gat Bluetooth??

[@jasonmccoy1380]

Great review! I picked one up December 2021.. came in like 2 days, I lucked out. Amazing DAC!. I run my phone or tablet to the USB. Use USB audio player pro, and you can select Bit Perfect. Play Qobuz Hi-rez through it and hold on to your pants!!

[@jackkennedy9475]

Always here technics has best transport. What’s your impression of their Old DAC. Also curious about Esoteric’s DAC. I realize it’s $$$, never see reviews. Any reason why?

[@getstew]

Hi. Can I get opinions please? What's going to give me better sound: the DAC that's in my Emotiva PT1 or a Schitt Modi Multi-bit going into that same PT1's RCA in? My source is a Mac Mini M1 using USB out. Thanks!

[@javace79]

Just received my Modi 3E, will be returning the Topping D10s.

[@ChicagoRob2]

Describe the sound. Is it smooth? Is there any hardness or glare?

[@javace79]

@@ChicagoRob2 I think it sounds less digital, if that makes sense. Also a little more forward and full. If I would have kept the D10s, I would have rolled the op-anp to opa1656, which maybe would have made it sound closer to the modi. FYI only tried it with USB to PC.

[@stevendavis1135]

Can someone please review this dac 😂😂

[@frederickfranchi6408]

Randy, when I first heard the multi-bit I wanted to send it back it sounded like crap but I stuck with it and within a week wow it was fantastic as good as my PS audio dac that cost $1,000 obviously sold that one and kept a multi bit a huge achievement for $300 so be patient when you first got it and break it in🤔😀

[@sloker874]

Thanks Randy!! Would any of these 2 DACs make better the sound from the Arylic S50 Pro + by using the 16 bit optical output of the Arylic to the input of them??

[@Cujobob]

They literally just discontinued this yesterday. There will be a Modi Multibit 2 at some point, but apparently suppliers can’t get them certain parts. See the Head-Fi thread about Schiit for more details, its the latest entry.

[@MrOldandslow]

You know, as you say yourself, audio memory is terrible. So, maybe NOT make descriptions based on memory. Do everyone a favor and A-B these DACs, Amps, etc. Get yourself an audio switcher, if you don't already have one, and use the switcher to A-B for all your reviews. In the back of your mind you need to keep the mantra, "People will spend their hard-earned money on what I recommend." As one who has been in electronics for over 70 years, "yes, I'm 84 years old", as an electronics teacher and audio enthusiast, help a fellow out! :)

[@avh700]

Nice comparison of the modi DACs. Next time, I would use a tone on CD for comparison of DACs with different output levels by running tone on a burned CD and making sure that it is the same 0 dB on a meter. This way you can truly have the proper sound levels to compare!

[@agentbrown321]

@cheapaudioman I have the original modi multibit before the usb unison upgrade. I just upgraded to the jnog2 akm version based on your review that you like it more than the ares II. Would you say that's true for the soundstage too? I'm just confused because you said in the newer reviews that the non akm version j2 is just less bass but has the same soundstage from what I can recollect

[@pavlo687]

I wish you would evaluate the HiFiBerry DAC. I use it in a Raspberry Pi computer with output to my preamp. Music is lossless on a portable 2.5" hard drive input into the Pi. Music selected on table with Volumio. But, anyway, I think the HiFiBerry DAC is really good and would like your opinion (along with others).

[@BadMonkeyFinger_Audio]

This is one that I want to try, too. It seems to compare well to the Chord Mojo (Mojo edges it out, i think, but i want to test it in person)

[@MyNorthAmetican40]

As a newbie to the. World of DAC I would love a how to video on how to actually plug h the ear into my DENON AVR

[@JamesSavik]

I tried to buy some Schitt but gave up after waiting eight weeks. I bought an iFi Zen 2 with a built-in headphone amp and enjoy it alot.

[@owenroberts6572]

@cheapaudioman have you checked the price difference of the multibit 2 to the standard modi ? BIG difference now 😢

[@zenithcric1171]

Does this mean I can sell my lightly used Modi MB and not take too bad a hit? Maybe even a profit? Modi MB Classic? Can they pull off the same magic with a different chip/etc’s? They seem confident … maybe it’ll even be better; they seem to know their schiit. I preferred my plain Modi 3 for Rock music but gave it to my son. Along with my Magni 3+, which I prefer to the Heresy. Still have the Heresy, but had to get a B-stock Magni 3+ . All that said I will have to try the Modi MB - Heresy combination. The Heresy was almost “too clean” sounding to me; the newer Magni just right. I know some love their Multibit-Vali stack but that seems too much cream to me - while I’ve not heard that either. And what I’ve really been enjoying lately is cheap Suca $40 HP amps with either GE or better yet, soon unobtanium Soviet military NOS tubes. C’est les guerre. The volume knob kinda sucks but they sound better than they have a right to for that money. Try …

[@epi2045]

It’s fine with me that it takes 4-8 months considering it takes me 4-8 years to pull the trigger. 😵‍💫😂

[@cheapaudioman]

that made me chuckle

[@jackkennedy9475]

Funny you sound like me!

[@cbremer83]

Same. Been kicking around getting a Schiit stack for a few years. Finally ordered a modi and magni+. Wishing I got a Loki Mini too. But, that will have to wait a bit.

[@castro619a]

I was think about Mani Modi, but I got the THX AAA and LOVE IT

[@GilmoreDavis-x6v]

Is the denifribs Enyo 2r2 the same as the Eres 2 ? That's what there selling in Thailand for $1100.

[@gatticusfpv3174]

Actually listening to this on a Modi Multibit lol. Bought the MB along with a Modius to compare the two. Didn't end up sending either back since I don't have another balanced DAC but the multibit is definitely my favorite. Also have a smsl sanskrit 10th which is much closer but I still think the multibit edges out the win. Currently using a Vidar amp with my pervious amp a Crown drivecore 2 in my kitchen system lol. Honestly I can hardly tell the difference between the two even when ABing. Not sure if I've just ended up with two amps that sound very similar but more often than not I hear a lot more of difference in source gear like DACs. Honestly I think the modi MB doesn't deserve the hate it gets for not having as good of performance numbers but almost no multibit DAC measurements compare to delta sigma. But holy crap does the sucker take a long time to warm up and reach peak performance. I was still hearing pretty drastic differences even after running it for 3 days. Hence I never turn it off and considering true R2R DACs have small resistance value changes until a steady operating temperature is achieved I don't think its a good idea to ever turn off a multibit DAC.

[@RdandTrk1]

I have a Modius. I know you said you prefer the Modi Multibit to the Modius, but how do those two compare? What are you noticing as the main differences? I previously owned a Modi 3+/Magni Heresy stack and "upgraded" to an Asgard 3/Modius stack. I find the latter to be on the warm side and a little thick. I find myself prefering the more analytical sound of the smaller stack. I'm wondering if changing DACs would help bring back some of the analytical sound? I'm just curious about your thoughts as someone who owns both the Modius and ModiMB.

[@cheapaudioman]

nice

[@gatticusfpv3174]

@@RdandTrk1 Yeah no problem. I'm not super knowledgeable/experienced and as always people tend to perceive sound in very subjective ways. To me the Modius sounds much more analytical and almost crystalline compared to the Modi MB. That lends me to suspect the warm thick sound is actually coming from the Asgard. Since the Modius is more neutral you can hear the natural sound of the Asgard a little better. It not a huge difference but the MB seems a bit warmer and the high end details seem a little more smeared and grainy than the Modius. Its not in a bad way. It sounds a bit more tube like. And this seems to be be born out in measurements. The multibit has a lot of 2nd order harmonics going on like tubes. However I wouldn't say the Modius is the most analytical/transparent DAC out there. So if you want to bring back a more analytical sound I'd probably suggest swapping the amp out to something like a THX head amp that has built in distortion compensation. It might be a bit too analytical at that point but that's going to come down to personal preference. The Magni Hersey was designed to compete more directly with THX amps so that'd probably be the place to start. Then if its a bit too sterile swap the DAC out for something a tad less analytical. With my speakers (JBL Studio 530) and amp (Schitt Vidar) the Modi Multibit just seems to render a bit more of a realistic soundstage with sounds in space. I have no problem using EQ and am pretty tone def so I care a lot more about soundstage and imaging than tone. The MB is ever so slightly narrower in soundstage but I find the imaging is also a tad more 3D. As for tone the biggest difference I've heard is that flutes sound a bit more crystalline on the Modius while the MB has some more harmonic distortion going on which I find a bit more pleasant. All of this is pretty slight but I hope it helps.

[@gatticusfpv3174]

@@cheapaudioman Did you notice it gets a tad warm? My amp and DAC have matchy matchy temperatures now lol.

[@RdandTrk1]

@@gatticusfpv3174 Thanks a ton for the reply! That makes perfect sense to me and sounds like an awesome place to start. I like the Asgard and I suspect I'm probably pairing it with headphones that are also warm, giving me what I've heard Randy call "extra butter", LOL! Thus it would pair very well with analytical headphones which I don't own any of yet. I think I just may go after the THX ONE, and keep both! Thanks a ton for your time and input.

[@wsmcke]

I have Schiit Lyr, Hiby R6 as my DAC and Argons as the headphones.

[@hawaiian-cerveza]

modi multibit 2 is available now.

[@davidcoons89]

I really enjoyed this particular review Randy!

[@roadcykler62]

If one or more of your viewers are offended by the name of an audio company who named their company with tongue firmly in cheek, they should probably not have a TV, radio, or any social media connections. Other than that, your channel is quite enjoyable.

[@ScotDouglas]

I bought a set of Q350's and a WiiM through your affiliate links - thank you for sharing your knowledge!

[@cheapaudioman]

Awesome, thank you!

[@richardburnett8595]

Hy randy the my x duoo 603 Bluetooth dac and nad 3020 great pear really good thanks for the recomend

[@shipsahoy1793]

Two questions..Is this MulitiBit still in the queue, and if it is, will it still be $250 ?

[@bertjedekat]

Whats more important for sound quality power amp or dac?

[@ADREISTER]

Need a nice desk top DAC/preamp. I don't want to ruin the DAC with a bad preamp. Is the Saga good to go if i can only spend $300? The T8 isn't for me, don't need headphone out, just a good remote. So difficult to decide.

[@zenithcric1171]

Not sure why you would need all those RCA inputs (5 if I’m remembering rightly) that a Saga features, on a desktop. That said I’m currently using two SYS units in my main 2 channel system, since I had a Saga + but gave it to my son. So don’t listen to me 🤪 What I found was that I could barely tell the difference between tube or solid state options; perhaps slight edge to the tube. But not enough, since I put an FX Audio tube buffer between the Saga and my Hypex NC 250 amp (to Q-Acoustic 3050i speakers, near field). Sat the FX on top the Saga, then needed RCA to XLR cables to connect to the amp (XLR inputs only). That did it! Then I must’ve thought “this is madness” and replaced it with an SMSL HO200. It functions nicely as my preamp to the Hypex, has both RCA and XLR inputs and outputs (one each), and a killer HP amp. Check it out. Perfect for a desktop. I mostly use it as a 2 channel preamp, though it lacks remote. And it lacks DAC so scratch that (unless you add a Modi MB, but I guess you can’t for now). Like I said, don’t listen to me 🤪. Now I kind of want my Saga back to play with; I don’t think son is using it yet. Anybody ever daisy chain preamps? Or am I going to blow up or set fire to my place if I try? Saga output to the RCA input oh the SMSL HO200 before XLR to my amp. Too Rube Goldberg?

[@bynde8638]

Talked to Nick Cage about the juice packs... he liked the idea but seemed concerned about it attracting bees for some reason.

[@mcjonner]

Do you guys think a modi 3+ would improve the sound on a nad t758v3 with Dirac a $1300 avr?

[@upitshak]

Hi, does it matches warm smooth speakers?

[@thejesusofbaghdad]

Now appears to be unavailable from Schiit. Presumably a result of extensive delays, so they removed it from their site. Also shows unavailable via Amazon. Just used on eBay at the moment.

[@jimjones1505]

What optical splitter did you use? I have bought two and they did not work!,,

[@DamionG1987]

I got one! I'd actually like to sell it. I like the Modi 3 just fine.

[@Simon_Hawkshaw]

Multibit only ships in Dec. I may go Geshelli instead. I need instant gratification 😂

[@kamadeva1]

Randy, what do you *really* think of the Simaudio amplifier?

[@cheapaudioman]

lol

[@tannji5971]

How would the Modi multi bit compare to the Asgard with multibit add-in dac?

[@jamesbrouse8780]

Why do you say that this DAC from Schiit, cannot be had or purchased? Did I misunderstand?

[@MadMoxxiFavGun]

hey randy, have you ever listened to the soncoz sgd1 dac?