Cheapest AMD FX AM3+ Motherboard on AliExpress

[@infidelgermany]

6:00 WARNING! Hi velocity ejecting SSD

[@baroncalamityplus]

At first I thought it was a zip drive!

[@infidelgermany]

@@baroncalamityplus Why would he use that though? Would only fit with one of his Emulation machines or retro builds.

[@baroncalamityplus]

@@infidelgermany That's why I was confused as well for a second. I haven't seen a zip drive in a decade.

[@infidelgermany]

@@baroncalamityplus I have never seen one in person. So theres that x'D

[@FireFlyinWonderland]

when I was small, I loved playing with the floppy like that, and watching how far a floppy disk could fly)

[@wantomek]

Everybody is talking "retro" computers. It's my daily driver and I'm perfectly happy with it. Granted I only play mincraft on it, and use it mostly for browsing, and youtube. Thanks for the review!

[@alertol]

It is a good PC if You have it already, but not worth it if You planing to buy it now. (and sorry for my english, I'm russian)

[@MJ-uk6lu]

FX is totally fine to use if it does everything you need. There's no reason to desire something "better" when there is no real difference to end user.

[@valkaielod]

Still on an FX-8350 myself. I see little return in switching to Ryzen now, but it will eventually happen. Until then I will play around with cheap i7/Xeon CPUs.

[@matthewplehn4271]

Dont sweat the overclocker's comments, overclockers by nature tend to be elitist. You have always stated that you dont like to overclock, but you did so you could show the results to your viewers. Thank you for that!

[@matthewplehn4271]

@Manimé Yes Jay is very much about Overclocking and Liquid cooling to the extreme, and in that respect hes a good content creator IMO. I watch Jay to keep up with the latest news about computer tech and see what goofy shit hes doing, again IMO hes the best one for me to watch about that subject.

[@kennyj4366]

My wifes old computer is a FX-8350 Black Edition and she loves it. Thank you for your video. Peace 👍👍

[@Synthematix]

Your wife likes a black edition, theres a surprise.

[@justfork1821]

@@Synthematix ......

[@Spicysauced]

14:55 "Best Battlefield ever" Youre my man. 2142 is what I play to this day.

[@Ezra804]

He just Yeeted a SSD @ 6:00 O.O

[@philscomputerlab]

LOL

[@danielberrett2179]

That was hilarious when it shot out!

[@excess.subiefl0w]

SSD durability!!

[@bitelaserkhalif]

Ejecto SSD

[@Queso305]

🤣

[@AlexDAGZDagnall]

I used to have a FX6300 and loved it!!! At the time it was partnered with a KFA2/GALAX GTX980 HOF ( Hall Of Fame Card ). It literally powered though anything you chucked at it. CPU clocked at 5 GHZ under a custom water cooling.

[@engelnym8566]

thats a hell of a bottle neck for a 980

[@kirbyswarp]

@@engelnym8566 And large amount of power and heat for less performance than a sandy bridge i5.

[@engelnym8566]

@@kirbyswarp yeah i used 8320 for 5 years loud and hot the phenom iis and i3s beat them in performance and power consumption

[@joemastro4695]

Love mine too,since 2012, and paired with a fineky 660ti @ 900p

[@darkwind9000]

Left or right sata cables can really come in handy when you have a graphics card that covers them up. They usually have a low enough profile that they can fit underneath.

[@nicholsliwilson]

With regard to overclocking comments, @PhilsComputerLab remember this is KZbin comments, where everyone knows better than everyone about everything. 😄 I’m using an FX 8350 and it’s serving me well but I don’t play particularly up to date games, I’m almost entirely a retro gamer on PC.

[@waltherstolzing9719]

You're wrong there, I for one know less than you about some things. ... wait a minute ...

[@nicholsliwilson]

@@waltherstolzing9719 LOL! 😄

[@julianschluter2593]

I use a FX 6300 with a GTX 1050 2GB and its still enough for many modern games (some with tweaks) :) I want to get a FX 8350.. But we have a run on these since 1-2 years in germany (the ebay-price went from 50-70 euros to 120+euros).

[@nicholsliwilson]

Julian Schlüter prices here in the U.K. are shooting up too. Last year an FX 8350 would have cost £60 - £65 and now we’re looking at around £100 but retro hardware is up in price generally. Hopefully prices will come down again. 😊

[@nicholsliwilson]

Braiteyy yeh, it’s much more of a 4 core 8 thread CPU but from that perspective (with right MoBo & cooler) it’s a strong performer.

[@trevorjex3146]

Thanks for doing some value/used videos! Something you can hardly find these days. I've got a 6300 paired with a GTX 1650 and it's pretty good!

[@metatechnologist]

I love videos like this. Some of us don't need bleeding edge.

[@kanvarmurray2207]

I want your ssd gun🤣😂

[@BastetFurry]

@@shaurz Pass auf, nächste Folge verschießt Jörg SSDs. Oder zumindest alte Festplatten... xD

[@dialupdave6276]

@@BastetFurry sorry I don't speak wiener.

[@indenkellerag]

@@dialupdave6276 this isnt wiener this was soft-german

[@caraforsythe5830]

I would love to see a video about a Windows XP retro gaming PC with those FX processors. This sounds like the perfect candidate combinate to a retro friendly GPU.

[@albi2k88]

I have M5A78L/USB bought in 2012 and im using it to this day. My first processor on that mb was Athlon II X3 with unlocked working 4th core (but not L3 cache). Now I'm using FX-6350 Black Edition OCed to 4,4Ghz. I noticed that OC of my FX mostly improve heat generation (using Arctic Cooling Freezer 7) but not much performance. But now im thinking about moving to Ryzen 2600 or 3600 or i5 9400F.

[@IsmaelWensder]

I think that this motherboard tends to increase a lot of vcore if it is not configured manually, in addition to heating the vrms causing loss of performance, maybe an undervolting coupled with overclock improves this, it worked here.

[@UpLateGeek]

Funny you mention under-volting. I picked up a cheap Phenom II X4 CPU and motherboard to build a console emulator machine. Under-volted and under-clocked it, and saved a few watts for no noticeable performance loss.

[@IsmaelWensder]

I think you don't really need to underclock... Here I under-volted n' overclocked my FX and it is stable. But i'm using a 120mm fan that besides cooling the processor also helps the vrm.

[@WouterVerbruggen]

The only "problem" these cheaper boards have is that you can't use the top-end FX chips. And if you can, you shouldn't, as the VRMs are not up to it. These boards, including this one, are essentially an older AM2+ platform jury-rigged to support AM3 and later AM3+. Hence also the lack of SATA3 and such. Back in the day, you heard a lot that people upgrading their Phenom II X4/X6 to an FX 8 had performance issues, which was 100% because they had boards like this. For FX 6 chips like you used, it was and is indeed a great value

[@IsmaelWensder]

True, but here I am using the cooler stock of a Phenom II X4 but with a 120mm fan, with that the vrm receives cooling and that kept things stable over here even in overclocking.

[@TheHoolioG]

Man you absolutely right

[@appwraith]

I'm still rocking an FX-8350 CPU, and it does make me happy to see people benchmarking and talking about the platform. Great video!

[@Erryjet]

I need a fx 8350 but it costs 100€ ... fuuuu I have a phenom II x4 965

[@appwraith]

@@Erryjet Incidentally, I also got the FX-8350 to replace a Phenom II X4 965 back in the day. I've paid about €50 for it in a clearance sale, so it was a very lucky find. Maybe you should try your luck in second hand shops that take recycled computers?

[@Erryjet]

Wraith yeah maybe... but sadly in my country those things are not very diffused 😬

[@dannib8416]

Planning to buy FX8300 what graphic card is the best partner for this like I need atleast 2gb of vram

[@appwraith]

@@dannib8416 I use an RX570 8GB with the FX-8350, but I'm not sure it's not bottlenecked somewhere, but since it works well, I didn't really care to do tests.

[@Gaming2-j8m]

Great vid, glad to see FX CPUs doing something other than gather dust. As games get more multi-threaded, FX seems to be aging like a budget wine.

[@joey_after_midnight]

The BIOS boot screen captures are (Amazing) I have never seen any better anywhere. Pure joy.

[@Corsiare]

Been running the PLUS version of this board for years, with an FX 8320. Absolute beast of a board, and still kicking after 6+ years. Only downside to these boards, is the lack of VRM cooling, just buy some copper heatsinks and stick them bad boys on there. Overclocked the 8320 to stock 8350 settings, and paired with a 980ti. You can easily play max 1080p/2k.

[@Beastykato]

I had an FX6300 and a R9 270X and I used to play witcher 3 back in the day... Here I am now in 2020 replaying Witcher 3 on a Ryzen 1600AF and 1080ti. We think we NEED so much. Wish I had just kept my old system and saved my money. Granted I'm playing max 1440p 75hz instead of medium 1080p 60hz, but eh who really cares? Keep bringing us those budget options and those reality checks!

[@DeViLzzz2006]

I really like this post by you Beastykato. It is the post of the day for me. NEED vs want .... So many people have such a backlog of games including me that could be played on far less, cheaper systems and instead of playing games they just hardware hunt for no reason. Now for me I need it as a hobby to stay barely sane lol but yes you make a great point.

[@jq747]

"Cheapest" and "from China" are definitely 2 terms you never want in the same sentence =D

[@chanyanzheng8941]

Ok kid 🤡🤡

[@MarcoGPUtuber]

A lot of AM3+ boards have great Windows XP and XP x64 support. A great way to keep mid-2000s games running and running well.

[@spacy9571]

But single core speed sucks so it isnt that great

[@MarcoGPUtuber]

​@@spacy9571 That's only if you compare single core speeds with the Intel's 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 6th gen platforms. Bulldozer in a vacuum wasn't a bad CPU, it was just not as good as the Intel platform for those games at the time. Bulldozer is still a better CPU with better IO support than preceding CPUs like the Core 2 Quad series, Athlon II X4, Athlon 64, Pentium D. You want a CPU with really bad single core speeds? Get Netburst, found in Pentium D and Pentium 4 CPUs. Right now, if you can get one for a good price, it makes a killer XP system.

[@philscomputerlab]

Yea you can use a dual core Phenom II or Athlon II and works great with Windows XP.

[@spacy9571]

@@MarcoGPUtuber it wont run 'well' you can obviously see crysis runs like total crap, core 2 duo series have better ipc than this

[@MarcoGPUtuber]

@@spacy9571 Crysis is a poorly optimised game that doesn't run well on ANYTHING except hardware built 10 years after the game was released. And it runs on Windows 7 and Windows 10. If you wanna run Crysis well. There are great Kaby Lake platforms that work just fine for cheap but they don't run Windows XP. Not only that, it is the most extreme example. But if you're looking for something that runs games in general from a wide variety of years from 2001 to 2015, then this platform runs well. Trust me. Games like Battlefield 1942 and STALKER are more than happy to play nice with the FX series with a GTX 580.

[@andrewmcewan9145]

Since your asking about overclocking every platform is different for fx specificly the two clocks you want to focus on are core and Northbridge for the purposes of a quick overclock for a video it's probably just best to stay to the multipliers as playing with the fsb adds complication. -On fx you want your max temp to be 75*c or less -For vcore on a good motherboard 1.5v is safe but you'll probably run in to tempture limits before hand -For cpu nb 1.35v is safe this should get you to arround 2600mhz -On latter model fx 4.5 post 2013 should come pretty easy 1.35-1.4v but as always this isn't guaranteed - ocing the HT link is only useful if your running multiple GPUs even then the impact is very minimal. it is also really hard to test for stability, its best just to set between 2200-2400 and forget. In the fx scene Intel burn test with 10 passes at very high is considered stable there are also some custom settings for prime 95 but for the purpose of a video this may be a bit extreme ( also watch out for the vrm temptures as fx draws alot of power adding some airflow to the area is not a bad idea) If your looking for more info for fx the best place is the 8350/8320 owners thread on overclockers.net The X58 platform is much like fx with focusing on uncore and cpu frequently and most chips are not unlocked so you'll have to overclock using reference clock and step down multipliers But for every Intel consumer cpu it's pretty much set multipliers to target raise voltage till stable. Ryzen the biggest focus is the ram (expessialy in zen 1 chips infinity fabric clock is 1/2 ram speed)as core is almost guaranteed to get to 3.8-4ghz a useful tool for helping with this is www.overclock.net/forum/13-amd-general/1640919-new-dram-calculator-ryzena-1-6-2-overclocking-dram-am4-membench-0-8-dram-bench.html#/topics/1640919?page=1 Best of luck.

[@unkind78]

@@icedoutshef 70

[@unkind78]

@@icedoutshef www.amd.com/en/products/cpu/fx-6300

[@andrewmcewan9145]

@@icedoutshef I guess I should have disclamerd that AMD's max safe temp varies greatly depending on what chip. After monitoring years of data form the fx 8350 overclockers club I've settled on 75 c absolute max safe temperature under stress test aplacarions and a few other people have come to that conclusion. but also with the max safe voltage being 1.55 I know that more than a handful will go over that if they have the cooling to and have yet to noticed any I'll effects years on. 75*c is my stress test temptures on my 2 fx (8350 pre 2013 chip 8320 post 2013 chip )systems both have cycled in and out of daily use for the past 6 years and they still hold the same overclock as the day I got them. Also if you've ever used a 6100 with a stock cooler at stock clocks 70*c + gaming isent unreasonable. This was noticed with a open air system at 25* ambient. But if you want to be really safe I'll leave these quotes from the stilt who is one of the most knowledge public facing people on the fx platform he also holds the world record for highest cpu clock. The Stilt Mar 22, 2015 at 8:37 am Indeed, if forgot the specify the limits for the "socket temperature" (SBI-TSI). These are the official AMD specifications. AM3+ / TDP (Infra Code) 220W (FH) - 57.0°C 125W (FR) - 61.1°C 95W (WM) - 70.5°C FM2+ / TDP (Infra Code) 95W (XB) - 72.0°C 65W (YB) - 71.2°C These temperatures only apply at stock power levels. At higher power dissipation they are naturally lower. -- Best regards Roger (also from the Stilt) Based on my personal experience on hundreds of different AMD 15h parts; the overclocking capabilities of these chips generally start to show significant retardation when the "socket temperatures" (SBI-TSI) exceed 60°C. At this point the "package temperature" (tCTL control value) can be anything between 45 - 65 units. The tCTL value is calculated based on several values and one of it´s calculation parameters (power scalar) varies between different TDP and leakage level parts. The "package temperature" (tCTL) is not an actual temperature which is a reason I refer it as units instead of degrees. The official specifications from AMD tend to agree with my experiences. 125W TDP FX parts are rated for 62°C (SBI-TSI) maximum temperature at stock settings. The maximum "package temperature" (tCTL) is 70 units on all AMD FX CPUs (AMD specification) In higher temperatures the leakage currents will increase even further and the thermal conductivity will reduce as well. Lower thermal conductivity will make it yet harder to remove the heat from the CPU core. 151.1W/m-K @ 20°C 142.7W/m-K @ 40°C 134.3W/m-K @ 60°C 125.9W/m-K @ 80°C SBI-TSI temperature is available on all motherboards as implementing it is mandatory. This is also the temperature which the bios displays. Generally there are two major manufacturers (ITE & Nuvoton) for the LPC/IO ICs which are used to read the SBI-TSI information from the CPU. They are very well supported by most of the hardware monitoring applications atleast for the temperature part. -- Best regards End Quote Short article on transistor aging where where all pretty much guessing anyway. spectrum-ieee-org.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/spectrum.ieee.org/semiconductors/processors/transistor-aging.amp.html?amp_js_v=a2&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQCKAE%3D#aoh=15799592244198&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fspectrum.ieee.org%2Fsemiconductors%2Fprocessors%2Ftransistor-aging higher temperatures means more voltage at given clock which means higher temperatures this is a pontical reason for the stock temperature figures trying to pull down power consumption at stock clocks. As always take the information provided and forum your own opinions.

[@andrewmcewan9145]

@@icedoutshef your not nessissarily wrong it's your choice what's safe for you, we are all running outside specifications anyway. As the stilt says package temp should be less with more power. That is a very good oc out of a 8300 no less. Most 8300 and e chips from what I remember are low leakage (verry good clock/volt) but hit a wall at 4.7/4.8. If you don't mind me asking what cooling are you running on your rig?

[@ezioauditoredafirenze5453]

I have read that FX-8350 max temp is 65C... or was it 62C, while FX-6300 and many oth FX-series CPUs is 75C And that info is from AMD site and some other places too. In short from reason(s) x, that FX-8350 doesn't like heat.

[@SmokinGoodd420]

Hey Phil! Amazing Video man! I Built a similar system, I opted for the 760G Chipset and a fx 4350 . I paired it with a GT 740 just as my Home theater PC/console gaming PC. and even with all the shade around FX based systems i really enjoyed using the system. I used this system for about 5-6 years as my main pc. I payed 90$ second hand and included case, CPU, mobo , ram , 500GB hd and 500gb SSD(boot). Really great value for money in my own opinion. I Recently obtained a Red dragon rx 570 4GB for 40$ on a local marketplace, and it really was a nice upgrade for the system. I've had my own fun overclocking , gaming, and even watching some youtube videos. Regarding overclocking i hit 4.6ghz on my fx 4350 stable (even gaming) . And the whole bottle-necking the GPU i don't believe its an issue depending on the title. But i did run this rx 570 in an 8th gen i5 and of-course with generational improvements you will see ALOT higher proformance, Again at a higher cost. Im really pleased with my FX system . It chugs along with my biggest and baddest gaming rigs i have built.

[@wilsonian89]

Great video, any chance on doing a AM2 review? Been handed a Athlon 3800+ and wondering what I can do with it...

[@TailsFurse]

Howdy! Thanks for the vid! Still using my 8320e here! No issues! However, I am curious, if you could start using Passmark scores in your video's? That's the score I know for CPU performance and GPU performance. If not thats totally fine! I'm guessing I just need to learn the other scores too, hah!

[@Babbages]

yep i got a 8320 and its a champ

[@gorgi991]

8320 oced at 4.3 ghz with rx 580,its just perfect

[@GEXITER]

FX 6300 and 8320E are best Vishera Cpu's from am3+...For having a IMC and IPC slightly faster compared to the 8350 and 8370.

[@manaphylv100]

I had an FX-4200, which is the only true quad-core in the entire Bulldozer lineup. It's basically an FX-8100 with the second core in each module disabled, so it doesn't have the resource-sharing issues of the other models. At the same clock speed, it outperforms the FX-4300 and all of the newer FM2 CPUs by a considerable amount in multi-threaded workloads. Its biggest drawback is the low clock speed, so you really need to overclock to get the most out of it, which requires a good motherboard due to its 125 W TDP (since it's based on an 8-core).

[@philscomputerlab]

Hmm that is very interesting...

[@DeViLzzz2006]

The FX-4300 on all the pc related message boards had the FX-4300 as the cpu not to buy. It ran bloody hot and the FX-6300 was just a better value.

[@philscomputerlab]

I bought one from AliExpress, that chip interests me, first time I heard about this one actually :D

[@fr4gl3]

Would like to see these FXs working on a mb that only has beta support for FXs processors like the M4AGTDPRO for comparison and see if they loose to ones that have full support. Would love to get a 8core FX for my old GTD PRO. Anyway, the performance seems great for something that only costs a bit over 100USD for MB/CPU/RAM but even more for me that would only need the FX. Ty.

[@tonifatec]

Roda perfeitamente os FX-83xx. Inclusive em overclock.

[@johanstenlund3092]

Why not build a overkil windows xp build? like a i7 2600k and a nvidia 780/amd 7970. Something for a future video?

[@philscomputerlab]

Coming soon...

[@bonnome2]

Isn't a ryzen 1200 better value? You can buy a combo for €100. You also get a cooler, only the ram is way more expensive. Edit: the ryzen 1200 has around +40% single-thread performance, even in octa-core workloads it is roughly 15% faster...

[@deepfriedlettuce851]

Is that the AC1200 USB wifi adapter from ebay? I use them in all my flip builds, very nice for the price.

[@philscomputerlab]

Yea I think so!

[@ambirbtruckdriver]

Yet again, somehow I have almost exactly this motherboard. Great minds think alike, I guess! I use an FX-4300 in mine, and a GTX-560Ti - for XP games. Only computer I've had that will run modded midtown-madness-2 without stuttering when you're flying across the map at 500mph.

[@knoxligaming920]

I built a 6300 system with a radeon 480 Everything worked great games played well except Apex did this weird blurr when I moved the mouse couldn't fix it

[@jakegarrett8109]

I’m sure you checked, but motion blur is enabled by default and it’s at an insanely nauseating level... It may require restart to take affect.

[@saskmuddinatv]

I built a pc back in the day when the fx 8350 just came out. It worked fantastic and all i did was game on it. I couldn't have been happier with it.

[@Tocsin-Bang]

I have exactly the same board. I bought it when it first came out. Only issue I had was the onboard sound, which was never good and it eventually died. I have 8G and the same processor. Glad I did something right- I went for a GT710. I don't do any gaming.

[@arsenalabove]

Seeing 2142 made me subscribe thank you so much for that trip down memory lane.

[@이병오-r3r]

Good information. I have a question. Where can I get information on the cases used for assembly?

[@TuNk1977]

That's a HighSpeed PC PC Top Deck Tech Station, Phil did a review on it in 2017

[@Stjaernljus]

A word of caution: the top PCIE 1x slot is often shared with things like the extra SATA ports and on some motherboards it causes a lot of strange problems.

[@internziko]

6:00 when you haven't fooled around in a while and your GF starts rubbing it..

[@FM_PERON2022]

I had the LX3 version of this mobo when I had my Phenom X3, such a nice mobo.

[@eknaap8800]

I use a FX8350 on an ASUS board with a GTX670. The FX runs a bit hot, so a decent cooler is advised. I do not overclock.

[@survivalistboards]

This is a great video. Thank you for your time and effort.

[@h2oaddict]

I have the lx3 version running an 8320e at 3.6ghz, 1.1v (massive aftermarket heatsinks over and behind the vrms). Can run for weeks straight at full load without an issue. I upgraded that system to a 1700 because sata 2 got annoying and 16gb of ram isn't enough. I never managed to get it to idle that low, might be because of the hard drives.

[@PrisonYT]

Thats the board im using now! Im using it with an fx-6300 at 4.4Gghz 20C idle

[@PrisonYT]

not to mention 240mm AIO for the cooler. runs any game I through at it. my GPU a gtx 660 NEEDS an upgrade :)

[@DeViLzzz2006]

@@PrisonYT you got it to 4.4? I think this boosts to 4.3? Is it just boosting to 4.4 or so or somehow you got this board to OC? I thought Phil mentioned in the video OCing was out of the question. Anyway as for an AIO cooler that would be fun and as for having one in my son's pc he always said no as he wanted either true water cooling or nothing. He hates how you can't see the water. LOL!

[@brushlessrusty]

Destiny 2 is free, I would be interested to see how this sort of machine handles D2. Thanks for the great vids.

[@Rob-gv9kw]

d2 runs great on my rig with the fx 8300 and rx 580 i get well over 6o fps on max gfx .. ( i think around 80 fps or so or more it's been a min) ..

[@nathanmead140]

Dauntless is free too (i just started playing it a couple weeks ago and I'm at level 15 with 380 power and 340 defense)

[@messing-with-computers]

It will run great. I was able to get destiny 2 running on a potato.

[@b.henriques9871]

This mobo was a pain for me, couldn't update the bios, sata mode was not in legacy mode and I lost one day trying to figure why windows wasn't installing. The undervolting part is real tho, stock my fx 6300 was at 1.38v! I disabled turbo core too and set fixed 3.8ghz all core, with 1.25v.

[@philscomputerlab]

Yea every board has its issues. Hmm AHCI SATA mode should work just fine.

[@CoreyDeWalt]

I've been running an fx processor for probably 8 years now. Originally built with a 4000 series processor because people told me games wouldn't use more than 4 cores...but I soon upgraded to an 8000 series and gained a ton of fps. I was very limited on cpu performance even though I was only using an amd r7 390 graphics card at the time.

[@herbertvonsauerkrautunterh2513]

Interesting. I buy from Ali express too but I can't seem to find am3+ CPUs cheap. I have an FX 4100 that needs replacing. I might look at the 6300 but I usually buy the 8350.. going into a gigabyte 970 board.. only for a backup of though.. 🤔

[@fr4gl3]

Would love to get an 8300 for my old board but I'm afraid to buy a 2nd hand from aliexpress.

[@shaneeslick]

G'day Phil, Wow the RX570 works really well with a FX6300, there was a lot less stuttering than I was expecting, I still have my FX6300 in a Gigabyte 78LMT-USB3 Rev. 5.0 with 16GBDDR3 RAM, P.s. good to see your hands are looking a lot better 😁🤲

[@holasoyelnae]

is a Asus m5a78m :DDD i using this with a phenom ii x4 955 BE C3 @3.5ghz 1.4v, xfx 7770 and 8gb Kingston fury 1866mhz. ...yes, 95w tdp motherboard and 125w tdp cpu with a soft overclock… from 2011 until now

[@taza99]

Thanks for including the x4 in the graphs, my friend has an x6 and this doesn't look like a proper upgrade for his needs.

[@Peter-h4x5l]

I had this Mainboard in my first own PC and it was actually quite okay, especially considered for the price. I had paired it with a FX 6300 and a GTX 1050ti. But I noticed some disadvantages. First of all, the positioning of all the ports was pretty well thought through, but the problem is just PCIe 2.0 and SATA 2 and the lack of USB 3.0 Furthermore the amount of I/O Ports is not that much and thesSingle 3 Pin fan connector with limited Speed Controller in the BIOS was anoying as well

[@philscomputerlab]

Yea it's quite a budget board. You can get a USB 3 PCIe controller, but stuck with SATA 2.

[@ugoplatamia]

Until I got a FX8320 and the mobo it came with (hand-me-down), I was using this mobo with a FX6100 paired with a GTX 960 that I also received as a hand-me-down. It's a nice PC. Since I mostly play fighters, it performs quite nicely. Now it's an office PC in another room in my house, still ready to game when I need it.

[@dandersson4819]

The game you show on 12:21 is Rise of the Tomb Raider and not Shadow of the Tomb Raider

[@dhgodzilla1]

Not bad. I just threw together an older Phenom II 1090t Black Edition build with a used Motherboard from Ali Express. Had the CPU & 16 Gigs of DDR laying around for a while now. It was a little dirty & I needed to flash the bios twice to get rid of a Booting Issue where it randomly didn't post & would give the DMI Pool Data error at boot. I kept trying every setting I could think of to get it to boot until I decided to flash it a second time.

[@SneakiestDuke68]

Hi Phils, I started to planning build retro Win 98 PC with - CPU: AMD Thunderbird 1.4 GHz, GeForce 3 Ti 200, RAM i will find without a problem but i have two questions for you. I thinking to add yet Voodoo 2 or Voodoo 3 pci version, it's a pci slot but will be compactible with GeForce 3 Ti ? I want to build pc for games from 1997-2000 and also with Voodoo 2 for early games which supports only nglide rendering and end era of DOS games like Need for Speed SE, Duke Nukem 3d, etc. Second question is - what Motherboard are you recommended for socket 462 ?

[@utp216]

Just last night I pulled out my Gigabyte 990FX board and FX-8350. Going to stick it in a spare case and do some testing. I can’t seem to find my 1600 DDR3 so might be stuck with 1333. What test bench is that you have and where did you purchase? I need that in my life right now! 🤘

[@harveybrooks1460]

I recently got a whole gaming computer for free from some random guy a town over from me. Has a fx 6350 and a gtx 660. I switched the psu out with my brand new corsair 650w and switched the gtx out for my club 3d hd 7950 3gb gddr5 card. Works good. Sadly only have a stock cooler for my fx cpu so no oc until I get a new cooler. Great vid.

[@LannisterFromDaRock]

Could you please do a vid about v3 Xeons? Xeon E5-2620 v3 is crazy cheap for example. I got tired of my Sandy bridge ones and quite curious about the v3 and v4 cost/performance ratio.

[@Voidsworn]

Pretty sure those are SATA3 ports, given that is what is printed on the board :D

[@dawn1berlitz]

nothing wrong with used components Athena My media server she is a mix of new and used components like the motherboard a MSI Z97S SLI Krait edition along with its CPU (Intel Core I5 4590), 32GB Patriot DDR3 ram i bought used while the cooler and the 2x2tb WD blue drives i had bought new while psu, 320gb WD blue (OS drive) was used from a previous build its been running for almost 2 years with very little downtime like very little power outages, blowing out dust or defective CPU cooler (supplied bracket for intel boards was defective)

[@filipjabonski5978]

Please, do episode about Phenom X6.

[@Schattennebel]

I had an FX 6300 @ 4,2 Ghz on my "ASUS M5A97 EVO R2.0" and everything run fine. Now I had an FX 8320E @ 3,8 Ghz.

[@hellbringer09]

chipset does actually affect the GPU performance from my experience the hyper transport and northbridge frequencies and allows for more gpu to be used when they are overclocked. also fsb over multiplier overclocking does more for single core speeds and memory bandwidth but is very difficult compared to multiplier because of mem controller lottery.... fx acts like pentiums from back in the day.... pump the fsb and crank the clocks and itll do work but at stock they are OK at best....

[@DiJAndy]

5:00 Using for example Asus gtx 980ti or something like that which takes 2,5 slot two of sata ports are being blocked. Currently i am using asus strix 1060 6gb and these sata ports are unavailable. Thankfully my system have only one ssd so this is not an issue

[@DiJAndy]

8:00 how is it possible that I have phenom ii x6 1100t oc to 4,01 ghz and in CB15 the score is 585 points which is higher than an fx 6300?

[@DiJAndy]

I heard somewhere this motherboard can support fx 8150 but I do not have resources to check it out. After mounting this specific cpu it will boot but in windows name of cpu is unknown. Can You please check it for me?

[@philscomputerlab]

@@DiJAndy Phenom II ist faster than FX. Many don't know this...

[@NightMotorcyclist]

it has great value?? Did you give it some... tech yes lovin'?

[@raysboomboomroom4800]

i have one of these the overclocking can go straight to 2%-5%-8% and max 10% as opposed to screwing with everything. most mobos have their own distinct settings I don't mess with OCing until I've had a board for at least a month.

[@CosmoRiderDE]

Does an FX 6300 run on an AM3 socket where an FX4300 is supported?

[@unkind78]

depends on mobo

[@joannaatkins822]

I wish more games were optimized as well as Strange Brigade, Apex Legends, and Overwatch.

[@Queso305]

Cool!! I've been using this motherboard since 2012 in my main PC. Started with fx4300, later upgraded to 6300. It's a nice capable machine, and it also supports Windows XP!!! I will eventually set it up for dual boot to use as my overkill xp machine . I love it a lot. I don't care that it's not the best thing out there, but it has definitely aged well in my opinion (you definitely showed that with this video!)

[@philscomputerlab]

I for sure want to make a Windows XP Video using a FX CPU :)

[@JorgeCarvalho_web_dev]

Well said Phil!!! everyone can criticise that you dont know how to OC, but talk is cheap and easy, no one give an help... I love those overclockers in the couch... Keep the good work that you have done and ignore those guys.... I would like to ask you to do a video using VIA C3 (800Mhz or near speed)and skt 370. Try to slowdown this baby to 386 and run it at full speed to see the coverage of a system like that. I think that is a good replacement of k6+ that are so expensive... Many thanks!!

[@TorqueEffect]

Heck, my main build right now is a FX-8350 with a 970 chipset Gigabyte board paired with a GTX1070. I was running the FX-6300 for the longest time, but wanted a slight upgrade and found that NewEgg was selling off their NIB FX-8350s on Ebay last year for $60 shipped. Got $30 for my old FX-6300. Then got an email forwarding me information about the AMD FX class action, and put in for that. XD Not bad for two extra threads and 4ghz clock.

[@MisterTonyG]

I don't know if you use the Epic Launcher, but Detroit Become Human has a demo that recently got released.

[@dhgodzilla1]

Aren't a couple of those guys from Gaylord?

[@JT-ko2ib]

11:17 those mix of comments regarding this type of CPU bottle necking some cards or not. They aren't really conflicting, since the game play can be smooth enough if you're happy with lower settings, and if the processor was more powerful, the FPS would increase. Both comments have some truth to them and are mostly user specific.

[@youzernejm]

Would have been interesting to see this combo compared to a sandy bridge or an ivy bridge i5, i7, xeon equivalent. They are also very cheap today, as are h61 and b75 boards.

[@FakeMichau]

Put 9590 in it :P

[@DeViLzzz2006]

LOL! Fire! Fire!

[@GEXITER]

*FIRE IN THE HOLE*

[@almenarab]

Phil! Where did you buy your test bench? What model or brand do you suggest?

[@TuNk1977]

That's a HighSpeed PC PC Top Deck Tech Station

[@mikeptech7655]

i had FX process for years, i had a good experience with it...

[@LuqmanHM]

Please do more videos on x58 xeons 😁😁😁😁

[@schumbo8324]

Next video; heres my corona virus i bought from aliexpress

[@Krisztian5HUN]

media hype virus.... remeber h1n1?

[@sasatodorovic9056]

My second pc have mobo sabertooth r2, fx 8320, 16gb ddr3 2133mhz, and EVGA gtx 780 works great for retro use and some fun..

[@supremerulah420]

Hmmm.. someone gave me an fx 3850 2 years ago. Didn't have a board for it. Right on time video.

[@TheSauronchik]

About OC. Minimum memory speed for FX series is 1866. All overclocking barely gives anything with 1600. Soary)

[@hafiza3171]

15:05 what happen there??🤔 Needed more game testing like cs:go and PUBG and how about emulator does it run well.🤘

[@Jwalker76]

Interesting to see you can get am3 motherboards for cheap from China. Would be interested to see the cost vs a Sandy bridge, ivy bridge, or haswell based systems. Personally back in the day I decided to get a i5 4690 instead of a fx based system. Comparing them and how they have aged would be cool.

[@satria4195]

6:00 what happend if its 2.5 inch Harddisk that jump out

[@hanswurst3811]

muahahahha ROFL :)

[@ilord666]

It would have been DOA 😆

[@JasperJanssen]

While powered down, not much. Those things are in laptops and external drives, remember. People have been throwing those in their backpacks for decades.

[@niewazneniewazne1890]

phill your aliexpress links never work!

[@baroncalamityplus]

They worked for me.

[@philscomputerlab]

Try Chrome Guest mode.

[@andresvazquez9710]

Phil, what did that ssd ever do to you?

[@combatjm89]

I'm running the USB3 version of this MB with a Phenom II 1100T. Got it for $35 off eBay. Decent setup.

[@chuizune]

Nice video Phil! Would be great to see an "Ultimate PC by year" Series, 1995-2000 is a specially interesting era given the multiple options in CPUs and GPUs from manufacturers no longer in the market. Cheers!

[@Vantud391]

Thanks for the video for new lunar year.

[@AlexBGamesONLINE]

What test bench do you use?

[@leto1178]

As for how well the FX cpu performs, it would be interesting to compare minimum fps, average fps and frame-times (micro-stutter) with a generally more powerful cpu. I suspect the FX can't keep up in average fps but should have quite stable frame-times because it has (kind of) 6 cores. Would be interesting to compare this to a more powerful quad-core cpu at a title which is optimised for multi-threading.

[@netwolfstar]

Thx, How would this compare to x58 or x79 Xeon based system. Also would really like to find some Aussies doing server nas builds most of the us based ones push supermicro and other boards that seem to be quiet costly down under. Serverbuilds is a nice site and the author does a lot of work to find nice bargains but when we look from Australia the cost is much much higher.

[@philscomputerlab]

Check out FM2 boards, many come with 8 or 10 SATA ports!

[@philscomputerlab]

Ok 8 SATA 3 ports, just had a look :D

[@Felix-ve9hs]

Do I see a AM3+ Motherboard without any VMR cooling? 🔥🔥🔥

[@cybercat1531]

s'fine :D

[@hashtaglobotomy2655]

... Let's hook up a fx9590 and send it to what gets roached first.

[@h2oaddict]

Don't touch the back of the vrm's :)

[@h2oaddict]

@@hashtaglobotomy2655 the cpu will throttle. You can only run 95w cpu's anyways.

[@Felix-ve9hs]

@@h2oaddict good luck running a 225W TDP CPU in it xD

[@ApexierGS]

Yeah, I had an FX6300 in a previous build I sold, it was on a MSI 970 krait AM3+ motherboard, it ran great at 4.5ghz with a push-pull hyper212 and 1866mhz 4x4gb RAM, got 540cb/106cb on cinebench R15, so about the same performance as a Ryzen 1200 / 1300 / 2200G

[@austin102496]

I believe I have the same board but a newer revision that has two USB 3.0 ports at the back. Still no front panel header though. Not a bad board at all! Edit: Mine also seems to have 4 dimm slots

[@damero9778]

I think it would be very nice for you to enable the frametimes, the 1% and 0.1% on the MSI Afterburner OSD for us to analyze the latency of the games too, since in some instances, there are some microstutters and slowdowns. As always, nice video!

[@nikmilosevic1696]

Nice test and really shows how good an old board and processor can do. I have a soft spot for the FX6300 as it was a cheap secondary PC to my main PC with a i5 3570K many years ago. Mine was easily clocked up to 4.4GHz on an ASrock pro motherboard and wasnt to much slower than the i5 3rd gen, but was much cheaper to build back in the day. Looks like its still a cheap budget build.