Cheapest Premium kayak? Old Town Salty 120 PDL full review

[@PalmBeachesPaul]

Just bought one today (5/30/21) and can't wait to get out on the water with my son and his Hobie Outback

[@AliexFolgueira]

How is it working for you ?

[@PalmBeachesPaul]

@@AliexFolgueira Love it, thing is stable as a barge but fast.

[@vinh1360]

@@PalmBeachesPaul hey Paul is the salty faster than your sons outback?

[@buckwheat12n]

I've owned my Salty since July. Your review is spot on. Outstanding fishing kayak for the money.

[@AliexFolgueira]

Thank you 😀 I’m happy you are enjoying the boat

[@jonathanbrook3578]

im having trouble where to purchase one. Where were you able to get yours?

[@buckwheat12n]

@@jonathanbrook3578 Austin Kayak

[@freshsaltyfries5078]

Alex cant decide between salty and sportman 120 i didnt want a heavy kayak to move around but at same time want a great kakay for lakes and inshore fishing what think?

[@graystrains9347]

Dude! Love your videos. Your your “if you don’t like it, get the hell outta here” comments crack me up! I have this same kayak and I do love it, but yes, you’re spot on with its lack of tracking ability. Just trying to pull up to a boat ramp is difficult sometimes because it won’t track. But I do love the kayak, and thanks for the video. Love all your videos. You the man!

[@AliexFolgueira]

Thanks Grays it is an amazing kayak, very fast and not too expensive 😎 happy to hear you are enjoying it

[@bradwadefishtx]

If you had to choose between this and the Hobie Compass which would you purchase? Can't decide!!

[@AliexFolgueira]

I personally like instant reverse so i would pick this one

[@luisbaez9278]

So would you get a Salty PDL 120 vs a Sportmans PDL 120? They not in the same family? Is the Salty different from just regular sportsman?

[@AliexFolgueira]

under the sportman brand, same seat, colors and stuff, different model, way faster than teh 120pdl, noticebable less stable

[@maldrury8313]

Noticed on reviews for this boat a lot of water coming up through the scuppers near the pedal drive? I like that Old Town are making a pedal drive Yak that is reasonably light and easy to handle off the water.

[@AliexFolgueira]

Yeah but that’s all boats with scuppers at speed

[@sikesy7]

Should I get salty or 106 min Kota for bay tournament fishing? $1900 vs $2500

[@echols2010]

What's the difference between salty and regular sportsman 120pdl

[@AliexFolgueira]

The sportsman pdl is wider and has a double u hull making it way way more stable but slower

[@AliexFolgueira]

Also there are important features differences like the pdl has a pp mount and a hatch in the front

[@echols2010]

Could you still use the salty in freshwater or is the pdl made strictly for salt idk why would make a difference

[@AliexFolgueira]

@@echols2010 both are great for salt and fresh

[@TheBrianone]

What’s the difference between the salty and the regular sportsman?

[@Juan-np6uj]

Looking forward to buying one

[@AliexFolgueira]

Excellent value

[@markyurchisin4825]

I would like you to compare this kayak with the SeaStream 120 PDL ?

[@AliexFolgueira]

Maybe very soon

[@goonch7956]

It looks like the Ocean Kayak malibu pedal is the same boat. Does anyone know if there is a difference between the two?

[@AliexFolgueira]

Better seat and rudder on the sportsman version, sort of the same hull

[@goonch7956]

@@AliexFolgueira u da man

[@panchopachangas4450]

So Aliex what’s the difference between the Salty 120 PDL and the Topwater 120 PDL?

[@AliexFolgueira]

I need to make that video one is bigger, far more stable , way bigger tankwell and other goodies

[@TridentDriver]

The tracking issue you mentioned can be plus imo. A better tracking boat wont start turning as quickly from a dead stand as the salty will it? I really like the maneuverability for fishing structure like bridges and docks. One of my dislikes is the way the seat strap is kinda in the way of the rudder knob for me on really tight turns. Overall tho absolutely love this kayak and still don't know of a pedal kayak I'd rather have. Maybe a Hobie outback possibly but I don't like how fragile the hobie drive is.

[@AliexFolgueira]

Hobie drives are easy to break but easy to fix

[@hazardsmurf1230]

just be you and do what you do. Love it. Keep up all the great work.

[@AliexFolgueira]

Hehe thanks 😀

[@travisf7849]

What is the shallowest the pedal drive to go versus a fin driven? 18" ?

[@AliexFolgueira]

Like 12 inch I’ll have to measure the fin drive is like 6 in but really you go so slow that it is better to paddle

[@travisf7849]

@@AliexFolgueira Ok Thanks Aliex for such a quick response! I'm definitely leaning towards this boat I'd mainly be using it in the bay. Keep up the great content!

[@AliexFolgueira]

@@travisf7849 thank you it is a great boat

[@jmdog37]

I currently have a Coosa HD but I'm looking for a peddle drive kayak in your opinion would this be a good option.I fish lakes,sounds and rivers

[@babycheesa8020]

It's 3k now in canada

[@tylerpaugh5089]

How does the salty compare to the shearwater 125? Looking for the best bang for my buck. Keep up the great videos

[@AliexFolgueira]

Umm just the boats I think salty is a better deal, shearwater with hobie drive and Bixpy ...shearwater

[@chilic82]

What about Salty PDL vs Shearwater with X Drive only? This is the answer I need to place my order tomorrow!! Help please!😁

[@joseluisfernandez3005]

If you had the choice between the predator pdl and the salty pdl 120 witch one would you Perfer

[@AliexFolgueira]

I would save the extra weight and money and get the salty

[@joseluisfernandez3005]

@@AliexFolgueira you’ve helped me so much I’m purchasing the salty right now thank you !!!!

[@AliexFolgueira]

@@joseluisfernandez3005 awesome 😎 thanks

[@H4zardWarning]

Can we get a comparison of this and the Big fish 108? I'm looking at getting a pedal next year, right now I'm on the fence between the 108, old town's topwater pdl, or native slayer.

[@brando2950]

Short and sweet well done aliex! Thanks for the videos and advice on choosing the salty vs the sportsman pdl 120. I decided to go with the 120 pdl for more stability and storage. Seems like you can't go wrong with either choice.

[@brando2950]

Can you elaborate on the comment about it being better for offshore? Just that its faster and can eat a wave better? Or...?

[@TridentDriver]

@@brando2950 One thing is the fact it has a lot of rocker so it will ride over chop a lot better than a straight keel line topwater. Also little lighter and only small hatch. Hard to get water inside the boat if you flip.

[@bradenhopkins8017]

So far bang for buck what are you favorite peddle drive kayaks?

[@cerescop]

Another good one, keep it up. I wondered about the hull slap. The arc of the hull sets that up. Now go get that next tuna.

[@AliexFolgueira]

Tuna is coming soon hopefully haha

[@Primofishin]

Just ordered this kayak super excited. Wondering why you think this is a better choice for offshore then the top water/pdl 120?

[@AliexFolgueira]

This one is faster better to fight current just be safe and wear pfd and all the stuff

[@costaplenty7482]

Great review my friend. Now when are you going to do the Kaku Zulu?? Part kayak part SUP. You can paddle, peddle and stand up. You spoke with them, now it's time to test them!!

[@AliexFolgueira]

I want to but it will probably take some time things are crazy now

[@costaplenty7482]

@@AliexFolgueira 0k my brother. That kaku looks totally awesome and somebody like you is the perfect tester. Well done once again.

[@martywilhelm9700]

Did you paddle the kayak and how did it do with the paddle does it paddle like a barge or does a paddle easy.

[@AliexFolgueira]

Yeah, here is the full water demo kzbin.info/www/bejne/d32ZhZmQmL58mrM

[@laurieanns.2480]

I have fished on a Top Water and a Hobie which I found was not for me and over priced for my budget. I loved the Top Water but I want to get a Salty because of its price and it's speed. I worry about stability though being a woman weighing 120 pounds. Also I primarily like lake fishing compared to ocean. Will this Salty be a good investment for me in your opinion? Love your videos btw☺

[@floriderroman1171]

hi Alex, on specs assembled hull on salty pdl12 is 85lb and 87 lb on sportsman 12. You own both of them, what's the difference in weight ? (really noticable?) thanks

[@AliexFolgueira]

Man getting the exact weights of these boats is like trying to find the truth .. impossible what I know is I can lift the salty 100% I don’t think I can’t the others

[@floriderroman1171]

@@AliexFolgueira it was hard decision between those 2 but I choose the stability over speed. ( thanks to your other video) . I have ocean kayak prowler 13 already, and salty looks almost identical and got same splash noise on choppy day. So sportsman 120 is my choice( little delays on shipping though). I will cartop it and that was a little factor that kinda pushes me on Salty, but I plan to throw a cast net from it and sportsman will do the job better I guess. anyway thanks for a response and great content !

[@AliexFolgueira]

Yeah Roman if you gonna be throwing nets def the 120 pdl much more stable and more room! Maybe I should add the 1/4 pancakes net test to these reviews lol

[@TheTroutman85]

When are the new hobies coming out? We need some reviews!!!

[@AliexFolgueira]

I probably won’t see a new kayak for a while

[@gonxa1000]

Ey Aliex..Im going to buy a pedal kayak..made in brazil very similar with the old town..my concern is about the kind of pedals like a bike ,we know there a'rent like hobie's . This models of pedals are contorfortable or can kill you back ? merry christmas

[@AliexFolgueira]

The propeller drives are very comfy I don’t have a problem with them

[@yoimalex]

I own both a Salty pdl 120 & a Topwater/sportsman pdl 120 I am 6’ and weigh 325 pounds with a broad shoulder width. Side by side is this... The salty is fast...cuts through the water like no other. Turns quick and is responsive. Very efficient hull design below the waterline. With that said it is also very easily moved in crosswinds. A bit tipsy compared to the topwater. When sitting still it tends to drift and spin perpendicular to the wind like most kayaks. Using the rudder is a must for tracking. Very fun if you’re using it for recreation and fishing in choppy water. Super fun on rivers with current or open water with chop! The topwater is super stable...worlds more than others. So stable its like glue on the water. Wind doesn’t push it around near as much. The flip-side is its much slower and much more energy used in pedaling/paddling. When you stop on the water and fish with no current or wind it stays put. Hardly use my power pole at all. The topwater/sportsman is no slouch when it comes to rouge waves. You will stay drier more than the salty. However you will given a false sense of security in wakes from passing boats. So much so that there is little secondary stability. If you are less than 5’6” you will have issues reaching the pedal drive in the topwater 120 with the seat all the way up. The topwater/sportsman is truly a fishing kayak. If using for recreational purposes it will be a bit of a struggle to keep up with those kayaks that are slipstreamed. On calm rivers, marsh, stable waters its at home...open water is good but its slow and tiresome. Especially good around underwater obstacles. If in any kind of moderate chop it will bob around.

[@Franz_Nandebaio]

Hello @yoimalex ! Your comment helps me a lot ! I was asking myself to get a SPORTSMAN SALTY OLD TOWN, is this the same than yours Salty PDL 120 ? I'm 6' too and weight 20kgs less than you, and i was wondering about stability to fish standing up. Is this possible easily on calm water and choppy water ? Thx !

[@yoimalex]

@@Franz_Nandebaio yes the salty pdl 120 is the same. Standing up is a challenge at first but once you get used to it the motions will come easier as you build confidence. However the salty is a bit more unstable the higher the center of gravity gets...but it certainly can be done. I stand in my Salty with minimal issues....but like before its all about confidence as well as balance. What helps a lot is to raise the back of the seat up a bit to assist...this also helps to combat fatigue in pedaling over long distances.

[@Franz_Nandebaio]

@@yoimalex thx a lot. Sadly i can't find a dealer in Europe (France) ...

[@RickysFishingAdventures]

Great review brother love it !

[@AliexFolgueira]

Que bola acere

[@ricktoole9991]

Already got my dream boat, it's a Big Fish 12 ft

[@AliexFolgueira]

excellent boat!

[@ChillinIndianaCarl]

Good review video Aliex.

[@AliexFolgueira]

What’s better my apple rants or the yak videos ?

[@ChillinIndianaCarl]

@@AliexFolgueira On this channel I would stay with yak, But on the Aliex channel you can dish on apple all you want.

[@AliexFolgueira]

@@ChillinIndianaCarl 100% I'm gonna dish on Apple reviewers haha

[@socalangler723]

Hey Aliex, Salty or Bigwater? for offshore. why?

[@jelly_fishing]

Nice breakdown and review

[@AliexFolgueira]

Thank you brother

[@cameroneagle4370]

Nice review, seems like a great choice, but the not tracking good part scares me

[@AliexFolgueira]

With the pdl drive and the rudder it will be a none issue

[@horgaszateskajakozas]

Nice job! Good video!

[@AliexFolgueira]

Thank you

[@jackritter4805]

How come the old town salty pdl 120 is 104 pounds but the sportsman 106 is 107 pounds. How come the longer one is less weight and costs the same.

[@AliexFolgueira]

Thinner, simpler

[@riverfishy]

What ever you want

[@AliexFolgueira]

😀

[@dariomendez4755]

Still waiting on a video by the reefs in the keys with the old town Dont flip out there lots of sharks. Lol

[@AliexFolgueira]

When I get out of my quarantine

[@dariomendez4755]

@@AliexFolgueira What quarantine? thank GOD you live in Florida

[@AliexFolgueira]

@@dariomendez4755 people close to me got it so I was told to quarantine, I don’t have it but you never know, almost over

[@dariomendez4755]

@@AliexFolgueira sorry to hear that. Stay safe

[@BassGeek]

Well Om not 500 but I ain’t no 220 either

[@AliexFolgueira]

come on bro you are pushing 180

[@mattmeir9211]

Of course the kayak is "FAST ",YOU don't put any "real" weight on it, why don't you load it down with the required 400 pounds and see how "fast" it is duh!

[@AliexFolgueira]

The comments I get online....😂😂😂

[@jackmarino2629]

Those aren’t your videos bro your taking footage from people that I’ve watched before!!!

[@AliexFolgueira]

All me 😎 watch the playlist kzbin.info/aero/PLfXm-PtTlrvxeJbqpeNsjAkhYWNzb0ibo