Cheating in Bowling… Would you cheat to win?

The Jason Belmonte "Water Bottle" incident raises a few interesting questions... Did he really cheat? Was Sean Rash right to call Belmo out? But the most interesting question is... would you ever cheat to win?
Are you so competitive that you will do anything to gain an advantage? Or do you believe that good sportsmanship should always come first?
Today we discuss cheating in bowling and whether certain things or against the rules, bad sportsmanship, or just clever ways to gain an edge over your opponents.
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[@andrewweltlich9065]

Bowling is a sport with no defense. I think you shouldn't focus on what your opponent is doing and just worry about yourself.

[@bunker5696]

Way easier said than done

[@jaysantos11]

that’s how i approach bowling and it works for me

[@PinoyBowlerGS92]

Yeah exactly !

[@sandramccullough6038]

Facts

[@austinjordan6365]

You clearly don’t know what a eurathane ball is and rolling down someone’s track to mess up there shot

[@whiteriverangler9670]

If you are going to talk about the water bottle incident that happened over a decade ago let’s talk about Rash and his crying episode on TV and his little “integrity” speech to Russo last year. Then AFTER he underhandedly wins tells Russo “That wasn’t directed at you”. My ass it wasn’t….

[@mikogord22]

It wasn’t directed at him. It was against everyone that threw urethane that day. Rash is a baby

[@mikogord22]

I should say it wasn’t directed “just” at him. You are correct in some capacity

[@TXP9]

@@mikogord22 that’s why his nickname is Diaper 😂

[@stephens9772]

I used to bowl in a league where a guy who would ask opponents if on their last shot their timing was off. Sometimes it wouldn’t do anything but I did see guys who would start to doubt their timing and spiral.

[@jaysantos11]

that’s definitely a bullshit move imo

[@stephens9772]

@@jaysantos11 I agree

[@adamcedarwall6049]

Years ago there were a few guys like that on our men's late league the woman's league bowled before us and there was no time for re oiling the lane's so it was a nightmare every week was different. I was struggling to get lined up the first game 7th frame Mr smart a$$ made the mistake of trying to get under my skin by saying something to the effect of having a rough time tonight huh well I decided the move to make was using a solid ball on one lane and a pearl ball on the other lane I struck out to end the first game threw a 299 the next game and finished out the set with a 279 after that I just turned and look him dead in the eye and said how did that work out for you lol The look on his face was priceless

[@dg-cg5gi]

Kinda funny haha

[@frankformella6834]

Very good bowling l like it.

[@bengrimm1222]

There was one well-known bowler in the Bay Area who won a fair share of scratch tournaments including PBA regionals. At least once he did what I considered outright cheating. During practice shots for his stepladder match, he slid his heel across the approach in the area where his opponent would slide. This guy tended to play the gutter down and in, and most guys he'd be up against were deep inside. Another guy who bowled a scratch tournament club made the cut like 30x in a row until it was found out that he was holding his recaps until late and doctoring them so he'd have just enough to make the cut. Turn 213 into 243 etc. That's outright stealing IMHO. He was banned but I still see the guy's name in leagues in the same areas 25 years later.

[@frankformella6834]

How does he live with himself. Totally wrong.

[@persistentintensity]

If a ball is legal, you can throw it. If it bothers other bowlers, then change the rules. Where you throw it on the lane is up to you. How you throw it, within the rules, is up to you. Psychology plays a big role in deciding outcomes. If you can't handle individual pressure, pick a team sport!

[@leemartin9022]

This is why I always practice on weekends. Kids all over the place yelling and screaming, venturing into my approach, and the lanes are beyond burnt. Easy to throw strikes on fresh with no distractions. Gotta mr miyagi your game a bit if little noises distract you to a point of temper tantrum.

[@clashinwithki949]

A cheating tactic I've seen a lot is when bowling a tournament and moving lanes after a game, a lead off bowler will 'purposefully accidentally' throw his first shot on the wrong lane to get a read on the new pair. It can be tempting if you're on the bubble going in to the last game...

[@Helthurian]

If you're that easily distracted, that's your problem. I think some pros have been isolated from what normal people deal with on their approach, that anything makes them mad. Was Belmo doing it on purpose? Probably, but maybe Rash could work on his game more. As for Urethane, learn to adjust like the pros do.

[@RIVALContentJammerz]

The fact urethane bowls existed before reactive, there us no legit argument against the ball.

[@davidsnow9504]

OH? So bring a water bottle to the next Live event, or Platform Diving or PGA Golf? If you wait for your opponent to begin his approach to take a 'loud drink' or 'readjustment' YOU are playing underhanded in my opinion. Go and sit behind your least favorite Tennis player at Wimbledon. Squeak a bottle every time that player tossed the ball to serve. See what happens.

[@FearTheWeird300]

Belmo been caught crinkling the water bottle multiple times. He also did it to Brad Angelo on tv

[@Daz86.]

yeh nah

[@autodoson1]

With all the upgraded bowling balls, new synthetic lanes, new pins and metalic wrist devices would not the players of the 50's and 60's and 70's think we have recently gained a new advantage in bowling now?

[@Anders-B]

I hate the Urethane argument, I much prefer using it, but the old men in my league with no revs in their game are always crying about me using them, sucks the fun out of smashing them.

[@igoramaral95]

Actually bowlers sometimes DO admit that they're using urethane specifically to affect others. Belmo even did so in his match play against his close friend Bill O'Neil in 2017 WSOB

[@user-mx2bb7nd4h]

And don’t forget about putting your towel on the other bowlers balls

[@williammurphy8293]

I got a dude in my league who burps loudly on the approach. Got me a few times but I restarted my approach by coming back and restarting.

[@bryanciaccia6231]

In 25 weeks I haven’t looked at my opponent bowl once. I haven’t seen their score until the 9/10 to see if there’s anything I need to do to win. I have won 63% of my points and am in the top 5 in a 30 team 5 man league in points won head to head

[@gregm6917]

If I'm comfortable using urethane I'll use urethane , if Im comfortable using reactive I use reactive .... it's my choice

[@jeroldserrell9746]

Simonsen definitely killed off the comfort zone that Kyle Sherman had at the Masters. During the allowed practice at the commercial break. I'm guessing he throw alot of surface on one lane only and urethane only on the other. The area where Kyle was playing was gone. Then Simonsen simply played left of that area. Who says there's no defense in bowling.

[@1USACitizen192]

Simonsen comes off as pretty much a d**k.

[@lumberlikwidator8863]

Cheating is as old as humanity. The earliest examples of cheating at tenpins that I’ve heard of were illegally weighted dodo balls that hooked like crazy with no great effort on the part of the player. Dick Weber, a paragon of class in the sport, was caught sanding the track of his bowling ball on at least one occasion. This made that part of the ball rougher and flatter, giving him more traction and less deflection. I think he was a pretty cool guy, but when I read that some years back in Bowler’s Journal, I lost a little respect for the man. Back in the 1960s I knew this bowler of way more than average ability who used to rub neutral shoe polish onto his ball to improve his reaction. I’ve heard of guys gluing a scouring pad into their bowling towel so they could cheat by surreptitiously scuffing up their ball. Head games abound at practically every level of every sport, and it’s never going to go away. People being the way they are, to most of us winning seems to be more important than good sportsmanship. I admit that I’ve done things in the past that were questionable at best. When I was a kid I used to cheat at Battleship by marking the opponent’s shots with pegs on my ocean grid, and moving my ships when they got hit. I never lost a game, and it drove my playmates crazy why they could never hit my ships. That was not possible anymore when they came out with Electronic Battleship, so I didn’t ask my parents for one of those.

[@XenoGuru]

Let's also consider this: In the 2000 Indianapolis open, Doug Kent, during practice, was purposely throwing his spare ball straight up third arrow to carry oil down for a better response for his strike ball. Cheating? Not really. Just taking advantage of a situation. It's part of competition.

[@robertmattingly4324]

I like your videos, but it would help if you had video of the incidents you are discussing.

[@Reezie78]

100% agree! I can't consider this a good channel until he starts actually inserting clips of what he's speaking about.

[@Pringleson]

Can’t get copyright struck he’s being careful

[@craigalexander9421]

This is commentary so Ithink would be covered by fair use.

[@rjulofkerlum7643]

A different aspect of this "rule breaking" is the bowling ball standards with USBC, especially two handers, thumb holes, and ball orientation. Personally I have found this interesting, but USBC typically finds a way to prevent any of this. However it is interesting that people tried to do things that weren't illegal at the time but still gave them an advantage

[@clarkkent1521]

I hate doing anything in complete silence because any noise is noticeable and may seem deafening in your mind.

[@willjames6437]

Old news… they use containers that are solid now and supplied by the PBA.

[@nightmaresnightly]

did belmo cheat with the water bottle? no, he didn't cheat. what he did does lack honor though. I've also heard many other bowlers say the same thing about Belmo making noise. On the other hand, idgaf because I think if someone making a little bit of noise on your approach distracting you is pathetic. zone it out, someone hacking up a lung on my approach wouldn't bother me at all. if you can't zone it out then that's your problem

[@edb3877]

Would I cheat to win a bowling match? NO! Why not? Because I love bowling more than I do winning... and I like winning a lot. 🙂

[@GregoryDean]

Ref: Belmo v Angelo. I saw that whole match and I remember Angelo calling Belmo out twice on TV which shows Belmo had a lot of gall, because any serious bowler knows better than to make a distracting noise during someone’s approach much less a pro multiple times in a national TV final. There is no doubt in my mind that Belmo purposefully crinkled his water bottle multiple times in Angelo’s approach to distract him. I tried to find the video I saw years ago, but couldn’t, that someone made (wasn’t on TV) and posted of Belmo talking to Angelo after the match saying how sorry he was and that he was horrified that “the bottle” made a noise during Angelo’s approach. Really?! Let’s replay the video where Angelo was calling Belmo out and Belmo was acting like he didn’t know what Angelo was talking about. Belmo was so “horrified” that he did it again in Angelo’s approach soon afterwards that Angelo called out again saying that was three times Belmo had done it. So Belmo was obviously lying about it. You can watch Belmo not touching his water bottle until Angelo’s approach and then grabs it and never even drinks out of it - just crinkles it. So why is he grabbing it if he doesn’t drink? Obviously to distract. I remember Kimberly Presser interviewing him on the TV show after the match about it and Belmo stating he went to get a drink (again never saw him drink during those moments) and “unfortunately the bottle” made a noise. The bottle didn’t do anything - Belmo did. Even if anyone is ignorant enough to give him the benefit of the doubt, he didn’t take any responsibility for his actions in that interview. The really sad part about that incident is that Angelo just wanted to forget about it and so later gave Belmo the benefit of the doubt, but Angelo was later made out to look like the bad guy. And then a little later that same year when Rash called Belmo out on it, Rash was also made to look like the bad guy. IMO Belmo has no truth and no honor. I saw a major bowling tournament back in the 70’s or 80’s can’t remember, where in the final match, the other lane reset in a bowler’s (Ricky Ward???)approach who did not strike and he complained he was interfered/distracted and should get to replay the shot based on a rule about that and the tournament director agreed and he got to replay the shot and struck. I mentioned that to a retired pro when we were talking about the Belmonte incident, because I thought they should’ve let Angelo replay his shots, but the retired pro said they did away with that rule. I think they should bring it back, but I guess cheaters could also take advantage of that rule too. I never understood why players and the announcers never held Belmonte accountable for those incidents.

[@CoachAshley1983]

It's so refreshing to see someone I agree with on this! I think Belmo is messy and always has been. The PBA and announcers have catered to him & he's been allowed to do whatever he wants. I'm no fan on Sean Rash, but his incident with Russo has nothing to do with Belmo's water bottle BS. Rash and Angelo have been vilified for calling out Belmo for his slimy tactics a decade ago, but he's the PBA cash cow so we shuldn't expect anything different. Belmo's mask has slipped enough times to see the truth. There's a big difference between mind games with an opponent and being downright dirty.

[@Krranski]

He may have been fined. He was certainly officially talked to about his behavior more than once. Bowling commentators like to talk about the PBA being a family; but not a whole lot of uncontrolled bad information leaves that "family". So we don't hear about most of that sort of stuff that happens, particularly in the pre-vlog days. I knew a few 2000-era ex-PBA folks somewhat closely and over the years I knew them they relayed some shocking stuff I hadn't heard elsewhere. Competition can be super underhanded and if you play strictly as a gentleman, you will likely not make it a successful career for long, if at all. At the same time, I strive to play as fairly and courteously as I can. I just don't care about winning as much as those folks clearly do. I love bowling, but it's a silly, silly game.

[@michaelalexander3322]

I'm tired of these KZbin people trying to claim that throwing a backup ball makes the right hander left handed, to the people trying to make that claim to term backup means you throw in the opposite direction then usual

[@michaelalexander3322]

"The term backup"

[@gregm6917]

If simonson was bowling 4 lefties , he's got the advantages being the only RH

[@augustexcell2757]

You can get banned from the bowling alley if you cheat

[@JimHancock]

I am amazed that 2 handed bowling is legal..... it certainly has ruined the game.... and gives an advantage to a bowler who otherwise is incapable of throwing and hooking a ball properly.... anybody can get revs galore with 2 hands... don't think it has an unfair advantage? Of course it does, the proof is in the pudding.. how do you account for numbers of 2 handers that have hit the pros at very young ages.... 2 hand bowling is rare, but common with professionals, do the math.... plus there is no style to 2 handed bowling... it should be illegal as soon as somebody is strong enough to pick up a bowling ball with one hand.....

[@TrandafirRuby]

I'm honestly tired of hearing urethane arguments. No one is stopping people from learning how to use it and sanding it down with a super low grit sanding pad from lowes. People can use layouts or their knowledge to make it hook more down lane or less. Idk would people rather bowl on burn to where you have to loft the left gutter to touch the right gutter? Or use a urethane ball to control the back end motion when there is a ton of dry boards to control the front to back.

[@doomusrlc]

5:25 IIRC, Belmo did this at the Japan invitational tournament in 2019 during practice. Jakob Buttruff was on that stepladder final as well. Belmo won over Jakob in the title match.

[@MuttTheNoob]

Why are u talking about belmo and rash but ur showing very old video of belmo .. it has nothing to do what the video is about

[@robertbignell6527]

Too many maybes about crinkly water bottles. PBA could insist on hard water bottles. Urethane, moving oil, back up are a different category. Resetting pins and fiddling with thumb holes, strategic down play.Brooklyns are legitimate strikes - end of. Don’t get the same look of disgust if someone gutters or misses the head pin on the pocket side. Spectator noise and strategic coughing?

[@travishanson166]

If you pay attention on the TV shows, the PBA players do have hard sport bottles now.

[@Riz2336]

I was always a good sport in bowling in tournaments. Sure I might get pumped up a little after a nice string of strikes but I always refrained from talking trash against the other player

[@chrisfrieler4512]

Using a urethane ball is cheating? That's rich! Urethane was in use long before these resin balls came on the scene. It's not like it's a new thing, and certainly doesn't "go against the spirit of the game" in ANY way. It's bowling. If anything, it's MORE in the true spirit of the game, and these resin balls, which atrificially inflate scores, are what should be considered cheating. Anyone who thinks that the higher averages and countless perfect games of today are because the bowlers magicly got way better needs to have their head examined. It's the equipment! A push was made to make the game easier, thinking that higher scores would attract more people to the sport. In fact, it can be argued that it had the opposite effect. It took away much of the challenge, which was a major draw for the serious bowler. So you have alienated much of the "serious bowler" group to appeal more to the "casual bowler" group. And the casual bowlers are still just that. The number of league bowlers compared to casual open bowlers has dropped drasticaly in the last 30 years. Now, to make the younger crowd, who grew up with resin, feel better about themselves, the campaign is to villainize urethane by saying it's tantamount to cheating? What a bunch of nonsense!

[@sriley064]

Did Belmo cheat to win? Does he still drink but out of non squidgy bottles between shots or is he still drinking copious amounts of water?

[@jaysantos11]

you bring up some very interesting points..good video🤠

[@jaysantos11]

some of these water bottles are made very thin and crackle no matter how careful one is. maybe PBA should buy the thicker water bottles..

[@adamcedarwall6049]

Just my opinion the way I look at bowling at least at a competitive level it's 80% mental 20% physical the mental game is definitely the hardest to work on but it's not impossible what makes it harder is everyone is different what works for one person may or may not work for someone else

[@frankformella6834]

True and the better you get I think it goes up to 90 percent mental. According to the book the mental game by George Allen. Great book. Helped me. I still need more talent. If not for my mental game I wouldn’t be bowling with some great bowlers in my league. Including my coach and AJ JOHNSON.

[@NunyaBeeswax-d1j]

When you cross a topic like balking or anything else ... May help to show the example instead of just random gameplay

[@cbrdealer]

Rash is the baulking king. I can't think of a match I have seen him in that there is not at least 1. On the Belmo thing... If you get called out twice on TV for something that in all honesty is a dick move, I think he knew what he was doing. He also made some videos basically saying "how would that throw you off" Yet we have seen belmo call out fans for cheering too early. Why? Because noise on your approach in the environment is distracting!!! Hence why there are no more plastic water bottles on TV. I would love to see someone do that to him today in a match on TV and see what he thinks about it now. LOL

[@alanbushey5466]

You post some really great bowling videos.

[@therightlanebowling]

Thank you very much!

[@jimmineechristmas7335]

absolutely

[@user-mx2bb7nd4h]

Everyone can have a water bottle

[@joshuaslosser6988]

2:38 if this shot doesn’t sum up bowling idk what does lmao

[@remington1439]

I dig your videos and look forward to more’ so I did joined, 👍’s up Mate

[@frankformella6834]

Like my coach says beat em with the score!!!I always say if someone is trying to get you off your game then they are not concentrating on theirs.

[@coopergates9680]

I thought I saw Tim Mack playing outside 5th arrow for once but nope, too good to be true. Wasn't he

[@dwcavileer]

just an idea; when speaking about balking maybe show an example of someone balking on the video and pause the weber cup bowling in the background. just so the newer bowlers can visually see what it is while you are narrating. anyway, i do enjoy your content

[@bowlingvanjapan4099]

A certain foreign bowler seems to like to make noise during all of his opponents approaches. His tactic seems to try and get in his opponents head as early as possible.

[@nukiepoo]

Great content. What a unique channel!

[@remington1439]

Answer to your Q at the end’ The only thing I don’t care for and our whole team heard the other guy said to his team member as it was a position round in our men’s inventional league’ a player said to his teammates after warm up time, hey I am going to throw a urethane to push oil’ while he was practicing with a resin reactive ball as soon as practice was over he went on to his urethane? Yeah we were all pissed off, it got so bad that a team next to them heard the same comment and they called a captain meeting in the 2nd frame, it wasn’t our team! Just to show that this affects others. It doesn’t matter to me but my team was not happy and it leaked to other teams close to us,

[@ROB92M12]

It’s the ball, its the bowler.

[@chancemholton6611]

I dont think belmo means harm but his culture is prob diff then the us

[@bowlingvanjapan4099]

At the 2019 Japan cup I was there live in person. The tournament director warned belmo to not throw back up balls on buttruffs line. Before the show because it was obvious he was trying to force butters inside.

[@chancemholton6611]

@@bowlingvanjapan4099 gamesmanship

[@josefrukavic7368]

​@@bowlingvanjapan4099 i dont see a reason why this shouldnt be allowed

[@anonymousmouse237]

Virtually nothing you give as examples are actual cheating(against the rules). It's bad form to throw around the C word carelessly for acts that are at worst bad sportsmanship.

[@Interdicted]

Good to put world tenpin bowling video, love them. When it comes to Rash, used to like him, but he can't show class, so... Can't respect any of his action

[@gregm6917]

Barnes is a crybaby

[@bderry9948]

why not show what your talking about

[@tokyosan7906]

As a competitor who has competed all my life and been in too many to count situations where focus was necessary and there was distraction all around, I can’t say that if a water bottle crackling ruins your focus, it’s your problem not anyone else’s. I think Sean rash, for example, has established a pretty solid reputation over the years as whiny and ridiculous when he is losing or thinks he may lose. And if bowling on tv becomes such a gentleman’s game and complete silence is required, why is trash allowed after a shot? It’s a form of intimidation that can disrupt focus the same level of crackling bottle. This kind of stuff is ridiculous.

[@JussPerfect]

Wonder why the narrator talks a lot without showing the videos. Just showing a lot of not related videos and keep talking about those incidents.

[@rivs2439]

I used to be a wrestler. Very competitive sport. One of the main tools in my defense was a cross-face. In my time, you could not slam a wrist into your opponents nose/face to defend. To bypass this, I'd push the head away and drag across the face during the take-down sequence. Technically, by rules, I wasn't slamming my wrist, he was driving the take-down and I was dragging across the face and nose. IMO, true sportsmanship is understanding the rules and how to use it to your advantage. Bad sportsmanship is breaking those rules. The PBA Tour isn't junior varsity sports, it's professional competition. They should play to every advantage the rules allow. Not break them; but utilize them to one's advantage.

[@douglasbuck8986]

Let's pick that scab..........AGAIN

[@scottythompson940]

Cool tech bowling

[@IanRobinett]

I will always "win with grace" first in bowling because it means I did my best and really pushed myself to the limit. But the minute someone talks trash, I will run it back on them and lose with "gusto" and make them realize they did their part to impact my game. I will never go out of my way to impact another, but if someone wants to trash talk me, I can promise that I will make them feel like a child whether I win or lose, and end up looking better. But if someone simply is "in the zone" and celebrating, I will celebrate too, but not ever make it something trash talking. They deserve to be hyped, especially if they're bowling well, string strikes, etc, but if they make it personal against me, I will turn it around and make they understand I can talk better trash, regardless of how I bowl, and get in their head, win ot lose. Sometimes it's not about whether you win, it's about if you are living rent free in their head.

[@donayers5925]

How do you cheat in bowling ?

[@stevendoecke300]

One you are wrong urethane and plastic at been in the game since the beginning of time then they finally brought out the reactive bowling book so if you look back in the early 90s and the early 80s they only use urethane and plastic so it's always been here it always will be here

[@SirJoelsuf1]

To hell with these "unwritten" rules. If it doesn't damage the lanes, bowling balls, or other equipment involved in the game, it should be allowed. Yeah I'm not gonna sit here and like it if someone throws thane on my line but its their prerogative! The thane ball they are throwing isn't damaging a god damn thing. Doesn't matter if it has a balance hole either. And it DEFINITELY doesn't matter if they put on or remove surface from it between shots. Again, doesn't damage anything. Staying quiet while your opponent bowls? That's just common courtesy. Even if I'm straight up talking trash against my opponent (which I often do, but I'm usually incredibly lighthearted about it and its always in good fun) I make sure that I am as quiet as I can possibly be when they are bowling. When it comes to Belmonte doing that he did, I don't think it was intentional. If it was intentional he would have been VERY defensive about it and would have denied it.

[@Anders-B]

I love Belmo but even I don't believe it was unintentional. This video failed to bring up the Weber vs Belmo towel incident, another time Belmo casually ignored Webers constant whining.

[@KJ4VGA]

How about adding lead weights to balls? it doesnt damage anything but most everyone would consider it cheating. Also Ive worked as a lane man for 12 years and can tell you that resurfacing balls between shot absolutely can damage the lanes. Especially wood lanes. If sanded the coverstock material creates a powder on the outside of the ball if not cleaned off can transferred to the lanes and get embedded into the lanes so you essentially have resin in the lanes or create a very high friction area increasing wear on the lanes. Not that big of a deal if it happens on occasion but if everyone is doing it between shots it will become a problem. You could argue that it should be required to clean your ball after resurfacing, but during big leagues or tournaments how would that realistically be enforceable? Not to mention how SLOW tournaments would be because of it.

[@TheCD5150]

​@@Anders-B There was no rule (at least at that time of the 2015 USBC Masters) about putting your towel on the ball return. Sure it might be a courtesy, but it wasn't illegal. There was more to worry about than a towel being left on the equipment and that was because Belmo was the 2-time defending champion of the Masters and Weber was trying to complete the Super Slam and beat Early Anthony for most majors. Randy Pedersen and Mike J brought it up the following week at the TOC. I love both players but Belmonte did nothing wrong.

[@Anders-B]

@TheCD5150 agreed, some might say it's bad sportsmanship, and some would say its taking advantage of webers paper thin composure.

[@ericpadilla2454]

Rash is a baby who chokes. That is all

[@johnblaha5692]

Hey......Sean rash = 😭😭😭😭😭

[@7Skyz]

If you can't block out a water bottle noise, you shouldn't bowl. Every alley has noises going on, nobody in my league complains when we should for the guy who got a split while others are approaching. They are professionals at that, being petty about a bottle, meh.

[@7Skyz]

Just realized I made a mistake, should say “shout for the guy who made the split” not “should for the guy who made the split”

[@hertzvanrental100]

Sorry, this video teaches nothing new about minor matters that have been going on for years. Top players know all the tricks.

[@eddiehansen3737]

Cool video

[@richpfursich645]

Outstanding video by the way, I just have one thing to say... years ago Earl Anthony allegedly used to practice on the TV pair and dry out a line for himself. And usually he was the number one seat and usually he was alone on the left side. That being said, I do not think that that is cheating at all while some right-handers or other Bowlers might feel it is cheating. I certainly do not. You still have to knock over the pins Earl was smart enough to do that years ago oh, he is even more of an idol in my eyes and yes I'm left-handed

[@stevendoecke300]

What do you spect from Sean Rafi act like a child he always gets upset I remember there was one video that you didn't throw that the camera on the approach was making a clicking sound and he was getting pissed off by that as well and he lives he said that's putting me off I got taught here in Australia when I was in the Juniors to block noise out I had people yelling at me on the approach and I just concentrate on my target people do that all the time at ornaments had issues with some people they try to put me off I look at my Thailand I beat them every single time nothing gets to me

[@larryblankenship7211]

I felt like Belmo didn't even know his bottle was distracting others. Only he knows . Forgive and forget.

[@itsdaley]

I've never understood the hole silence thing as anyone who plays league will know there's loads of noise and you learn to ignore it, Let's not forget about rash being a cry baby on more than one occasion, the guy needs to shut up and focus on his own game not his opponents

[@petejochinger1768]

Bowling is being killed by the ball manufacturers and trivial talk like this does not enhance the games prospects. Lets do away with 8 balls for every tournament go back to plastic and rubber balls on short oil patterns.

[@gregm6917]

Belmo always cheater / unsportsmanlike

[@Daz86.]

As an aussie u might think you know my opinion already but i can say with all honesty that ..... brad angelo and sean rash were hallucinating, the end.

[@TheRealJohnMelendez]

You talk way too much

[@dr9290]

Player in bowling is weak mental if water bottle issue is call cheating.. you should look the other sport with spectator is make a loud noise but still player dont bother it..what the shameful of u