CHEATING in PREDECESSOR is getting WORSE

[@Empti_]

Daily videos aren't coming back just YET. This was just a very important topic to cover. Love y'all ❤ Edit : They've been perma-banned & please do NOT harass anyone in the video. They alreday got what they deserve.

[@elgecko5872]

Both of the people you mentioned?

[@kongthao380]

How can we confirm the ban?

[@PNitty34]

Here's one I ran into today if you want to put them on blast. I made time stamps. Match ID: a6966cb8-4feb-4c1f-b919-aca4e441e602 Cheater: Alectts (Skylar) Little Things • Checking jungle location o 6:57 o 7:22 o 9:36 o 14:15 o 16:35 o 18:10 o 19:15 • Clearing wards with Sentry.. Because why would you need wards when you have wallhacks? o 10:55 o 13:33 (Tries to shoot it before going through the wall) o 22:06 Blatant • Sees through fog wall o 12:25 o 18:44 o 26:12 (Gave up trying to hide it. This is where I realized) o 28:40

[@muglokdecrepitus1301]

So you have to be a KZbinr and post a video about it, so cheater gets banned? Ok 😪 Great video btw, I wish it wasn't necessary to make these videos for Omeda to do something

[@vona1055]

Orey is still posting videos and streams on yt

[@damein6183]

0-7-2 while cheating is crazy, maybe we should let that guy keep cheating so he can keep up lol

[@HappyHistorianGaming]

😂

[@dannymunch4633]

The upside about this, whenever I feel bad about my performance, I can now think of the cheaters, who perform much worse than I.

[@davidelombardo6145]

I started watching Orey on yt just a couple days ago, can't believe he got caught immediately after lmao

[@Turbo_Timecop]

This is wild. These guys are breaking the LAW!

[@Empti_]

You've been popping into my recommended, keep it up brother!

[@Ju-C-Thug116]

We love Empti and TTC 💪🏽

[@Turbo_Timecop]

@Empti_ Thanks brother just out here doing what I can for the Pred community

[@Turbo_Timecop]

@@Ju-C-Thug116 💪🤘

[@StyAzores]

@@Turbo_Timecopand doing great content 😊

[@HeyItsCameron]

Huge respect for you Empti stepping out of a comfort zone and exposing cheaters like this, it's our game and people won't know if they don't know.

[@susp3nse_622]

Love the vids. these are always good to see, i like cheaters being called out. Also last one the live reaction to the replay is good!

[@qwertynotasdfgh]

This was actually one of the most entertaining predecessor videos I’ve seen, please make this a series!

[@raffou24100]

Empti took a break from his break to bring sweet hammer of justice out! Seeing some of this guys lose even if they are cheating is hilarious ! GET THEM OUT Omeda !!!

[@unicod10]

This is insane tbh, how it is possible Omeda is not banning this guy? Anyway if you report someone cheating on twitch hes gonna be banned on twitch aswell. Update: they've been banned from Pred.

[@PettyGamerBoy]

It’s crazy how cheaters have like the worst positioning in the game. Like that wraith was so dumb for getting near the countess like that.

[@PNitty34]

Here's one I ran into today if you want to put them on blast. I made time stamps. Match ID: a6966cb8-4feb-4c1f-b919-aca4e441e602 Cheater: Alectts (Skylar) Little Things • Checking jungle location o 6:57 o 7:22 o 9:36 o 14:15 o 16:35 o 18:10 o 19:15 • Clearing wards with Sentry.. Because why would you need wards when you have wallhacks? o 10:55 o 13:33 (Tries to shoot it before going through the wall) o 22:06 Blatant • Sees through fog wall o 12:25 o 18:44 o 26:12 (Gave up trying to hide it. This is where I realized) o 28:40

[@keith333FACE]

Honestly I'd watch daily vids of you catching cheaters and watching them still be bad lol

[@eiber400]

Hey Empti! Thanks for your work and all your thoughts on this problem! I really think Pred is a great game and I have good times enjoying it. Makes me sad to see people cheating in this game and even more sad, seeing that this clearly bothers you a lot. Streamers like you are VERY important and truly valuable for Pred. So please at least try to not let your personal joy get taken away from these, honestly, frustrating situations. Keep it up! Looking forward for your great content! People who appreciate it will try to enhance the gameplay and solve these problems. Thanks for all you did so far man. Best of luck and strength to you! Enjoy your time.

[@Braanflakes]

Omeda needs to add in the line traces that show exactly where a player is aiming their crosshair as an toggleable option in replays so that we can get more details about exactly what they are aiming at. Counter-Strike has had this for years. Also, not sure if they still do this but Counter-Strike used a community-driven system called Overwatch to review suspected cheaters and I feel like Omeda could really leverage a similar idea to help combat things like this. You obviously don't give the power entirely to the players to ban people but putting small clips of suspected cheating moments in the eyes of the masses to review can help filter and narrow down the actual cheaters which leads to faster and more accurate bans.

[@Hobeezyy]

I think people like the Murdock are literally so bad they think when they die, it’s because others are cheating. He doesn’t understand the damage of an assassin or burst mage and that each character is not created equal, they have their own strengths & weaknesses. This ain’t call of duty LilQueezy.

[@Miiklel]

Like an average omedas discord mod would say "do not get mad if u got outplayed on vision and go next"

[@chriscastillo884]

Welp, I’m unsubbing from Oray. That’s crazy and I’m glad someone is saying something.

[@johnnysmallz1597]

It definitely is increasing. I caught a player using serath last night doing it. Vision snapped to anyone coming near her lane in places that there clearly wasn't wards.

[@symz4665]

Hacking is a recurrent problem in every online game. And while the devs/pubs could do something about it, they won't, because if they start banning hackers, that means ALOT less sale for their stupid DLC/cosmetics/skins and what not. So, they give them a slap on the wrist, and let them continue on without too much consequences.

[@Lechron]

i think the eye above kallari is actually appearing when he becomes invis. cuz if you watch at @24:14 it pops above his head as soon as they pop invis.

[@Lechron]

also in the clip right after when hes backing it pops up above his head right when he goes invis

[@davidmorales7371]

I've come across this 4 times that i can remember. Up until now I was really sure if it was actually someone cheating but now I'm absolutely convinced that they were. My first thought was "who cheats at a game like predecessor? Small game, small following- whats the point" Apparently its a real thing though lol. The worst cheaters I came was a someone using terra and a murdoch with the free snipes.

[@honkhonkv2236]

people cheats on game you don't even know that exist lul

[@ludoros9214]

Thank you ! So much work dude. I'm with you and Omeda to kick some ass of our game.

[@TOCCL]

I have seen this in a couple of games, but didn't think much of it. Now I connect the dots, and don't remember the game. I've also seen some people locking onto closest target with the reticle, so basically snapping from target to target instantly, Aimbot style

[@AkakiMaboroshi]

if you find a video on twitch with the title "Resolution build (mana build) explained. #predversity" look at how he shoots at Murdock near the tower. if you look frame-by-frame, you can see how auto-aiming works before firing. and then find this player in the Omeda ranking

[@rockenrooster]

Ohj boy, i got one too! match ID 7f524bdc-ea1e-4306-b14a-e19d5f27d820 player in question is playing as Wraith. Here are time stamps with descriptions of each one that I found/suspected. 5:55 No wards. No ally vision, yet knows khai is coming. 16:25 No wards. No way there is ally vision on Mori. 18:15 Wall hacking? or good habit warding fog wall? no vision until ward placed. 19:05 Wall hacking? looking at enemy players coming out of base with no vision? 24:38, 24:44 Two lucky ward placements? Allowing to destroy enemy wards. 24:58 Wall hacking. No vision on enemy carry, yet hesitates like they see them. 25:22 Definite wall hacking. Zero vision on steel, but uses ability before steel comes out of fog wall. 25:53 Definite wall hacking. Zero vision on khai, yet watches khai run across ally jungle. 26:21 Another lucky ward placement. 28:32 Blind snipe on Skylar, Aurora doesn't have vision. 28:58 Definite wall hacking. Zero vision on mori, yet BLINKED TO GET THE BLIND SNIPE THROUGH THE WALL!!! 29:9 Wall hacking? Zero vision on khai, yet watches khai run towards him during recall behind fog wall with no vision. 31:13 Another lucky ward placement right next to previous ward... 34:40 Looks around with no vision of enemy jungle for some reason, like he can see khai and steel/sev (aim follows steels/sevs hitbox before going through fog wall. Places a ward for some reason? 36:58 Yet another lucky ward placement. 37:05 Can somehow see sevarog with no wards or vision, shoots him a couple times 40:10 Looks through jungle wall at enemy team. 40:56 Looks through wall to look at enemy team again. He did lay a couple "normal" wards lol, but the vast majority were solely to de-ward, which upon watching the replay the first time, was surprising to me as it basically confirms 100% without a doubt that this guy is cheating. That and the Blink + Blind snipe through the wall at fang pit 100% confirms it too. I reported and created a ticket, and Omeda reported that they were dealt with... Honestly this wraith was really good without cheating, hitting his combos etc, but since wall hacking doesn't help in team fights, we won, cheater lost lol.

[@Kaaai88]

Hey @Empti. When there will be pred vids and steams from u again?

[@Captain_Dark]

I ran Serath yesterday and Murdock kept sniping me even when I shouldn't have been on the map. Dude kept his Ult on me

[@jacec5408]

Miss you Empti, I hope everything is alright. I'll be here when you get back, take care of yourself man.

[@Carllizard]

I’ve suspected walls on a few players for a while now. Problem is players will learn to hide it better as time goes on. As it’s free to play this problem could kill the game if it gets worse.

[@sebastianramirez6616]

I had a match where I was Greystone vs Greystone offlane. Game was about 35 minutes long. My KDA was 8/2/16, enemy Greystone was 8/9/4. But yet his creep kill was 333 to my 248. He accounted for half the deaths in the game because he wasn't on his lane chasing other kills yet. Where did he find time to outlane me when he was dead half the game ???

[@Ananomos]

Cant wait for the daily uploads! Hope you enjoy your break!

[@RufusTK]

Where you been at Brody, need some vids 😭

[@opinionatedjam]

Thank you Empti!! Keep up the great work and let us know how we can help. 😊

[@skiffy_knives6281]

Cheater 2 yeah had a Wraith doing the same thing under his tower where there was no ward and snips me thru the wall

[@Rancher1to]

Man! Glad you’re taking action on this respect man!🔥🙌🏽another one bites the dust!

[@ezlazy1215]

Who was the second cheater the wraith

[@JPieTv]

Empti is the hero Pred needed all along.

[@halhudson4009]

Miss you empti

[@HanseiiiZ]

Where is my goat?😢

[@saltycakez]

He’s back 🎉 How has your break been?

[@Empti_]

Not exactly back quite yet.. just had to post this one!

[@FlickyShot]

Anyone who cheats needs to be permanently banned. Just like how Jarvis used cheats for a Fortnite video lol Orey needs to be banned along with every other loser that cheats. Thanks for shining light on this and W video

[@kamg2901]

Hello Empti, could you record something about tournaments in Predecessor? You play in EU, but you've got PCC 2 Champion. How were you able to attend naeast tournament? Like I tried a single game with changing region and it was not playable at all. Are there any EU tournaments? Thank you! Another great video here by the way!

[@abdulelaahqahtani7145]

Hope ace see this sh’’

[@Bretout]

Great Video. Hilarious how Bad the cheaters are. Considering the massive advantage the cheats provide them with.

[@cercruder]

I've played against Orey in ranked a couple times and definitely felt like something was up. Weird rotations and contesting obj. Glad to hear this is being taken seriously

[@Kj13203]

Yeah suspiciously I’d notice he’d play like crap while he was streaming and he’d be oddly much better jungle off stream. Looking back it’s pretty hilarious how hard he’d shit on his team. Sucks cause I was starting to like the guy

[@cercruder]

Yeah even his YT clips felt weird to me.. Like the plays he chose to highlight didn’t really match my expectations of a “good play” as an experienced player. Either way, glad to hear that we aren’t just letting this sort of thing run rampant unchecked 🤞

[@crusaderscastle]

I dont think I've ran into any cheaters I mean I've had some weird encounters such as being hit by a wraith ability from the other side of fang pit about the distance of iggys pre nerf molotov

[@oredzera]

There have always been cheaters, since the beta, but OMEDA doesn't make any decisions, as they don't want to lose more players talking about it. Because this subject scares away players, there is no video where OMEDA talks about safety in the game or any tool that helps bans for cheating, think about it!

[@MrTehDBear]

As much as i hate kallari, they are perfect for catching cheaters. Had someone i suspected of cheating cause they w keyed me through a fogwall with a twin offlane and never seemed to miss a skill. Warned my team next match, had a Kallari jungle, they confirmed it and in the rewatch you could seem them tracking her while invis. Not even trying to hide it. It was disgusting.

[@HarleyBikerDud3]

by the way in my opinion for the ones who are cheating and have a Twitch Or KZbin channel needs to be banned from the platforms.

[@Ichoritatsuko]

Nah these guys just have 1000$ gaming chair.

[@LGTGHOSTHUNTING]

All hail LilQueezy

[@dashaunpitts8028]

Bruh I had a greystone running at 60% with infinite crest talons of course it was the most ridiculous thing.

[@LegendaryCarry]

For us console players, this is one of the downsides to cross-play, I’m not saying cheating doesn’t happen on console, it’s just much more common / easier on PC :(

[@goodgamingtvchery3691]

These are definitely kids. Every encounter he was by himself because he is trying to chase mismatches and ambushes. And the prefire is horrible. And i think its autoaim. Because there is no shake displaying free movement. Just smooth aiming and all his kills are vertical. But left and right was always behind.

[@TimDo95]

Thanks for calling out cheaters, it takes a lot of effort to do so to make the community fair.

[@sapperEvO]

Serious question. Does this count as witch hunting? I tried to report someone this way through reddit and it got taken down for including names.

[@Slider14967]

If you post this to the subreddit I bet it will be taken down for witch hunting because it has player names and IDs. If you posted the same with anonymized video/images it would not be witch hunting.

[@sapperEvO]

@@Slider14967 so it's just the subreddit where it isn't allowed? On youtube it's ok?

[@prometheusthefirethief3479]

Dude the guy is obviously cheating, how dare u even ask that

[@shadowflare2255]

My genuine question is how tf are you losing with a broken hack like this? I would be paragon the following afternoon. Having vision on the entire enemy team is tiers above what would make any match a fair match. How are you hacking and still doing bad afterwards?

[@andreic8786]

yeah but if you are mechanically horrible, just having info wont help you too much. they might need aimbot too lmao. otherwise they miss attacks and skills

[@bqing87]

Over confidence and really bad macro. If they end up having aim bots it’ll become even more obvious that they’re cheating especially with the replay viewer.

[@BeatdownGG]

Detective Empti of the OPD

[@Szerniel]

Should ban these people with 0 room for leniency

[@GreenFalcon18]

Reminds me of legionair. The first cheater I've ever saw. And he was on a pcc team too

[@FlickyShot]

so did orey cheat or not? cuz he streaming rn and i thought he was banned lol

[@cleopatt]

lol maybe if you played the characters you would find they can snipe threw walls etc just like sparrow can kill threw walls!! Can be done not cheating!! It’s the ULTIMATE that allows it Try a practice game you will see the enemy outline light up threw the wall but like I said it’s the ultimate allows it

[@Empti_]

XDDDDDDDDDDD

[@StrangerDG]

This was a banger to read. Not because it makes sensem. But, because it so dumb it's meme worthy.

[@amedkit]

WOW SO SMART 😍 TEACH ME PLS

[@StrangerDG]

Yeah I saw this also empti it's crazy that they're allowed to play. This is a big guy also.

[@crazitomali]

Imagine cheating in a game with hardly any players

[@HanseiiiZ]

I miss my goat

[@honkhonkv2236]

I literally played a game vs a kallari, account named Bronze, never missing anything the whole game and best just a smurf at worse aim bot or something

[@Norweginator]

Guys, he has to talk about it

[@Mittens-f2v]

Wow , 0-7 while cheating is abysmal, i used to feel bad playing as a mid getting ganked all game coming out with like 4-6. I despise cheaters , imo we should take an islamic approach to it and remove their hands. Its like stealing , but stealing peoples time , fun, enjoyment of life. No pity for cheaters whatsoever

[@anthonycopeman7797]

Love your videos my guy!

[@decsmith8919]

BoobooNL is a player I caught cheating . Sniped every fangtooth , bad timings but everytime we were on it he sniped it close to kill and no enemy wards . Was shooting me through a tower when I was behind it. Didn't place any wards but knew when my jungles was coming everytime . And then also aimbot because he was shooting me during the ascend animation on serath without missing. And if he was that good at aiming on his own then he wouldn't be in gold .

[@midnightwalker3730]

this is funny to me how people who don’t hack gets banned for cheating and people who does cheat doesn’t get banned 😂

[@R1CHarDTips]

When LilQueezy is looking at duo lane near 13:05 he can clearly see them because his supp is outside the wall in the lane...I agree with a lot of this video but some of these are clearly wrong they are just part of the game lol

[@GrandpaKeiF]

Imagine cheating but still playing like shit like these guys lol

[@ITMeCE]

I had to take a break from the game too.. its terrible right now

[@Splitlickity]

Hey man, just want to let you know that you have been on a break long enough that you’ve fallen completely off my top subscribers. Take all the time you need, but with the channel growing like it has been, be aware of the ramifications of taking too long to get back to it.

[@bleachfan43]

Murdock and the streamer still up sadly

[@iLLSniper]

cheating in pred is so sad

[@maxsimon1872]

With how bad the servers are right now they should just be worried about making the game playable.

[@reyik77]

When you were copying the code the game server was there (NaEast). I hate cheaters and I seen already multiple wallhackers long time ago but I got used to them in Counter Strike, we even made them lose when they were only walling with bad aim. They suck in all games.

[@lonesmokertv3475]

Orey still posting to his YT after getting perma'd is wild hahah

[@dennisbasler9800]

Get him outta here, nicely done🎉

[@LeighMcnasty]

Oreys doodoo too

[@travismiller5741]

This reminds me of another player named Powerhead who was cheating with Murdock a while back. His last match was about 8 months ago. I had some video of that and sent it to omeda. Maybe same guy?!

[@L_Alfiere]

Lilqueezy has a new fan now. I felt so sad watching his match, the guy just need a girlfriend...

[@stevenlong7490]

I find it funny people hack in MOBAs like pred 😂 wall hacks are a huge advantage but when you’re bad enough to resort to hacking it still won’t let you win games

[@gg8470]

Bro comeback we need a chillguy im sick of watching that cringe pinzo😅😅😅

[@HarleyBikerDud3]

well we have a guy in Asia who is a grandmaster and I know for a fact he cheats. I had the same issue like the wraith guy but he was playing fey. I was adc and the jungler was in coms with me on discord and he was complaining about being fey Q threw the fog walls every time he approached her. Also they would have a high KDA. like between at least 20 kills to 35 kills a game. I latter became friends with the fey. Come to find out he lives 45 kilometers from me and he did tell me he was using it. I stop playing with him and he still plays today because he is on my friends list and I still see he get online. He also likes to play wraith and do the same thing like in the video

[@headmovie7460]

Wards?

[@headmovie7460]

3:30

[@HoracioFdzG]

Now that I think about it, a few weeks ago I lost a game to a murdock that had something like 20 kills by the end. He was hitting snipes like crazy, and I though he was just really good. At one point he killed me with a snipe at the exact same place the first kallari kill happened in this video. I remember thinking i chose an obvious spot to return, and next time I should back at another place. Seeing this, that dock was probably cheating.

[@VPNAnonymous]

Honestly, this is why I prefer console gaming. Cheating isn’t as prevalent.

[@kami_8677]

Brooo I just beat that itsorey guy 😂

[@timweber6560]

NO WAY lol I’ve played with this guy too!! Not good - will be sure to report

[@symz4665]

No devs or publishers takes hacking seriously anymore because they don't want to ban hackers, one less player is one less potential customer for DLC/cosmetics/etc. Not too long ago I played against a fey where she casted 2 speels AFTER being killed. It's across every games too, asians hackers are destroying online gaming.

[@leemur5398]

You know maybe leave that last part out

[@Psychobum91932]

​@leemur5398 weak ass woke minded chump. the truth doesn't sound nice sometimes but that doesn't make it false.

[@symz4665]

@@leemur5398 Why, everyone knows hackers are mostly chinese.

[@3lrinconsitole]

El juego no es ni la sombra que una vez fue. Como echo de menos el Paragon original. Que lastima de juego entre el aburrimiento y la gente que lo juega se murió rápido. Fue bonito mientras duró. Que esperas de un free to play que fracasó 😅😂

[@ronaldsolis3150]

report people that stop playing during ranked matches

[@decsmith8919]

Didn’t think cheating was so rife. Maybe now when I think someone is actually cheating then they actually are 😂

[@YujiChampion]

I beat cheaters all the time, cheaters wont succeed in this game because it takes strategy and teamwork to be good in this game. This is not cod.

[@SBG420]

played against a Terra, 100% cheating it was so frustrating, who are these people so i know to never watch them.

[@StyAzores]

Exposed, sad but they must be exposed.

[@Kyjin_]

25:30 its not real rest easy, You can see the mori ulting. But still for sure cheating.