Buy Stuff Arcades Deluxe Backbox 2.0 for the AtGames Legends Pinball

Please be advised this is not a complete installation tutorial for the new Deluxe Backbox 2.0 from BSA. This video was just to demonstrate how simple of an upgrade it is for your AtGames Legends Pinball. Took me about an hour total unboxing, removing and installing the backbox, and re-configuring the displays in Windows 10, PinUp Popper, and VPX.
For anyone OTG'ing with a gaming laptop like me, you may have read online that you cannot output the backglass image and DMD from a single displayport/thunderbolt port from the laptop. I'm happy to report that I am able to, here is a link to the exact splitter I'm using in the video:
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Hope this video sheds some light on what to expect when installing the new Deluxe Backbox 2.0 - it's fairly straightforward and the results are absolutely stunning!

[@BuyStuffArcades]

Excellent unboxing and review! So glad to see you're enjoying it and that the install went smoothly!

[@nerdloftgaming]

Thank you guys for making the ALP an even better experience 😀 I never tire gazing at it when it's in attract mode, and having a dedicated DMD is really a game changer.

[@zfunk9]

What does ALP and DMD stand for?

[@Robbie_Ukule_Lee]

@@zfunk9 ALP = At Legends Pinball and DMD = Dot Matrix Display.

[@angrydove4067]

Wow, this is the first time I saw one of those backboxes with the plexi on it, that looks awesome and I want one! Thanks for the informative video.

[@nerdloftgaming]

You’re welcome - it absolutely pops in person, and adds a more premium look! The machine still gets a ton of play to this day. Definitely a worthwhile purchase. Thanks for watching! I’ve actually added a couple more mods to my ALP but haven’t had the chance to put it in video. Keep an eye out for it 😎

[@TboneTenEighties]

That is one nice digi pin you have there. Looks great. Enjoy that bad boy.

[@nerdloftgaming]

Thanks bud, it definitely gets a lot of playtime!

[@darkempire2022]

Absolutely love mine! Worth every penny !

[@nerdloftgaming]

You bet 👍

[@GhettofingerGaming]

Soooo amazing im so ordering this

[@nerdloftgaming]

It really is! It still amazes me to this day, haha.

[@IROC-ROB]

Man that looks so good. I’m sold on the Legends. Now I need to figure out how you did what you did 😆

[@nerdloftgaming]

Thanks! I absolutely love the ALP. I've installed a few upgrades to it since owning it and may share a video in the future when I get the last of my mods done.

[@PierryChan]

Great video and informative. I think I will be placing an order as soon as they are available again. You've earned a new sub! Cheers

[@nerdloftgaming]

Thank you very much! When I shot the video I had no idea how my experience would turn out - and I'm happy with how it did. You should definitely jump on BSA's wait-list. There are a couple little mods I'll be adding to my ALP and then I'll be done (I'll be sure to post about it) - thanks again.

[@lonster3000]

Those are some very clean upgrades you have done on your ALP! Nicely done!

[@nerdloftgaming]

Thanks very much! There are a couple more mods I've done since uploading this video. I'll be sure to share a follow-up 👍

[@lonster3000]

@@nerdloftgaming would really like to see how you routed the ports and also the power strip. Even the little doohickey for storing the key!

[@jacojeff1138]

Man bud, you have that sucker souped up! I would love to discuss all your additions to that machine. Great job and thanks for the video. Man, I would love to be able to crank that out.

[@nerdloftgaming]

Haha, thanks! I have a couple upgrades added to it, and a couple more smaller additions to add before I call it complete. I'll definitely share more when it's all done.

[@bread._.89]

i love your channel keep up the good work.

[@nerdloftgaming]

Thanks, will do!

[@noiselabproject9659]

I build my own Pin Cab machines but I`d say that this is a must for At Games owners cos the single small 16:9 monitor is rubbish to have to cram a DMD display onto as well as the stretched backglass and then have an At Games logo where a DMD would be is just bad design. If the original machine had had a 19" or 22" 5:4 backglass screen in the 1st place and no stupid AT Games logo then it would have been ok

[@nerdloftgaming]

Yup, the BSA Backbox is the way to go for those of us who want a "drop in" solution for a larger backglass. I'm looking forward to what AtGames does for their new backbox on the 4K table later this year.

[@joeypowell05]

I see you provided links in an earlier comment for the hdmi, usb, and audio connections on the back of your machine. Would you mind sharing a link for the connector and switched cable you use to supply power to the power strip inside for the haptics upgrade and Cleveland solenoids?

[@nerdloftgaming]

Here you go, just follow the link to one of my reddit comments www.reddit.com/r/LegendsUltimate/comments/10je8gm/i_dont_why_everyone_so_into_otg_mode_versus_just/j5k8nlk?context=3

[@joeypowell05]

Thank you so much! I’d used every search term I could think of and couldn’t come up with it.

[@johnmc3862]

Sweet af.

[@nerdloftgaming]

Thanks bud!

[@starballenger5618]

What size are those wing nuts? I need replacements!

[@nerdloftgaming]

Just saw you question on Reddit, too. Sorry but I can’t seem to locate them! I’ll be sure to reach out if I do.

[@sbarronmd]

looks great! envious

[@nerdloftgaming]

Thanks, it really has made a huge difference when playing. I love it!

[@barrypincus7417]

Awesome backbox. I will get to ordering one soon. That's the trad 4 to 1 dmd correct? Cool to see laptop works for otg after all I've read not to use laptop.

[@nerdloftgaming]

That is correct, the DMD is 4:1 ratio. Gaming laptops definitely work for OTG, my worry was that the single displayport wouldn't be able to output both the backglass and DMD, but thankfully that isn't the case.

[@barrypincus7417]

@@nerdloftgaming very nice . Been leaning towards the larger dmd screen but I really like that one too. I will also be using gaming laptop so good to hear it works for you

[@Creativeminds5]

So im having a issue getting my dmd to work with everything. I see you have 4 displays in video. My computer should be good enough to handle 4 displays. Are you useing a switch ?

[@nerdloftgaming]

Hi pit99, when you say switch are you referring to a physical switch toggle or the Nintendo Switch?

[@Creativeminds5]

Switch toggle ... sorry

[@Creativeminds5]

I got a 4 way splitter.... now I have all the screens working but is there a guide to configure the the dmd back glasss and playfield ??

[@nerdloftgaming]

refer to nail buster's guide: www.nailbuster.com/wikipinup/doku.php?id=baller_installer scroll down to the bottom, "DISPLAY ORDER". In Windows Display Settings, you need to ensure the displays are in the correct order. I touch on this at 13:05

[@XAbbeldydooX]

I’m about to purchase the LP table and this looks great. Dumb question though. Looking at the options that are available with the back board I’m seeing a “vibs” board is one of them. I’m not sure what that is. Is one needed for standard operations?

[@nerdloftgaming]

Yep, you will need a VIBS board if you plan on using a PC to play additional tables - it's what makes it possible to display the backglass image in OTG mode.

[@XAbbeldydooX]

Thanks. As silly as it may sound to enthusiasts i am not really planning on playing from PC. In fact I don’t even have a PC, only a phone. I only plan on playing the tables available preinstalled or the downloadable packs.

[@nerdloftgaming]

@@XAbbeldydooX BSA has a budget backbox coming out as well, and they plan on revealing it soon. I would hold off on ordering this and see what that may be. It could be a single large display, and that would be perfect for playing the stock tables - but that's only my guess. There are additional upgrade kits you can add that'll enhance the stock table playing experience: the BSA Haptics Upgrade Kit, and the Cleveland Software Solenoids Kit. Both I highly recommend 👍

[@XAbbeldydooX]

Thanks for the helpful information!

[@troymcdonald]

I always thought it was Cleveland OR BuyStuff surround/haptics..?

[@nerdloftgaming]

I currently have Cleveland’s Flipper Solenoid Kit installed, as well as Buy Stuff’s Haptics Upgrade Kit. You can have both installed, as they’re two different systems, one being physical solenoids and the other is a sound system consisting of transducers and a bass shaker that provide feedback via vibrations and audio.

[@troymcdonald]

@@nerdloftgaming ahh..didn’t know they complimented… thought there was too much overlap.

[@warrenreid5624]

Can you provide the links to purchase?

[@nerdloftgaming]

www.buystuffarcades.com/products/deluxe-backbox-2-0-for-atgames-legends-pinball Please be aware there is a wait list, be sure to contact them via email to be added. Definitely worth the wait!

[@darianstaruk237]

Where did you find the flush mounted hdmi, usb, and audio jack ports for the back?

[@nerdloftgaming]

smile.amazon.com/dp/B06XJT45T3/ref=cm_sw_r_apa_i_AAYDYQVPDF8CDXTFZDKG_1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1 smile.amazon.com/dp/B06XKBMYGL/ref=cm_sw_r_apa_i_GQ4E1W9DAPZPNP4BPQM9_0?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1 smile.amazon.com/dp/B01NCPSUB4/ref=cm_sw_r_apa_i_7TAC0XBV7X6BXV3YSNSW_0?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

[@darianstaruk237]

@@nerdloftgaming Thank you!

[@playingmax]

Congrats on the new backbox! question did you have to reconfigure every table?

[@nerdloftgaming]

Actually, no I didn't! They only real change I had to make was deleting all my custom DMD table settings (found in the DmdDevice file) - since I was originally playing on the stock ALP backglass, I moved around the DMD depending on the art. Once I fit the virtual DMD window inside the display, I saved the position globally and that was it 👍

[@Creativeminds5]

Does the dmd screen work with stock tables ???

[@nerdloftgaming]

Unfortunately they do not @thepit99 - the stock tables were not designed for a three screen setup. I don’t see that happening until the new 4K version.

[@Creativeminds5]

@nerdloftgaming damn that's unfortunate.... I think this backbox looks nicer then the new 4k version that I refuse to buy lol ... rather upgrade my HD pinball

[@nerdloftgaming]

@@Creativeminds5 with how large the backglass display is, I don’t mind the stock tables’ DMD share a space up there - but it doesn’t matter much to me in the end, because 99% of the time I’m playing OTG anyway, lol.

[@Creativeminds5]

Haha ... ya I hear ya .... I'm playing pretty much everything from stock to OTG .... the Canadian price on the backbox is high but it is very tempting...

[@normmccabe]

What model laptop is that? Specs?

[@nerdloftgaming]

Hi there, Norm. It's a Dell G7, 7588 i7 GTX 1060 16GB RAM. I bought back in 2018, I believe. Perfectly suitable for 1080p @ a solid 60fps.

[@jonathanrowe1827]

I hope AT games makes one for the Micro

[@nerdloftgaming]

Yeah that would look amazing!

[@IrishluckJDEsq]

Does the laptop need a thunderport to work? I have an NVIDIA USB Type-C Port that I'm wondering will work with the device you linked from Amazon. Thanks! 😀

[@nerdloftgaming]

Your laptop would need display output ports to work, yes. Mine happens to have two output ports, one being the standard HDMI and the other being a thunderbolt 3/displayport. It's highly recommended to use a dedicated graphics card setup (ie desktop PC) for vpin to ensure you have enough power to support multiple displays. But it can be done from a gaming laptop when tweaks are made to the graphics/video options.

[@IrishluckJDEsq]

@@nerdloftgaming I'm using an MSI ge75 gaming laptop with an RTX2070 graphics card. It shows that the USB port is an INVIDIA USB Type-C Port, so I'm trying to see if that product from Amazon will work for me too 😀 Oh, and great video here! My back box arrives this week with the haptics kit so I have quite a bit of work coming up on my upgrades 😁

[@nerdloftgaming]

@@IrishluckJDEsq oh awesome - yeah, I think you'll be fine then 👍 I choose that particular splitter because the reviews confirmed it would extend the desktop across multiple screens. If it doesn't work out for you, you can always return it - but I don't think you'll have to.

[@raymondnist8770]

I would love if they could create a better main display

[@nerdloftgaming]

They being AtGames? Are you referring to the stock display for the playfield? If your setup is equipped with a Nvidia card, color calibration can be done to enhance the stock display for OTG. imgur.com/a/fGQO4qz

[@PerduesArcade]

How long did it take to receive your back box once you placed your order?

[@nerdloftgaming]

Took about two, three weeks from order placed to shipment. I also added the plexiglass option after my initial order was placed. Dave was quick to add it on for me. Edit: went through my emails and it's closer to three, four weeks.

[@jdo1842]

How is the sound with the amp ?

[@nerdloftgaming]

The sound is great, really shines in OTG mode, as VPX separates the music and sound effects. So while the backbox outputs the music of a table, everything else sounds like it’s come from inside the machine (ball rolls, flippers and slingshots, bumpers etc) - a table like AC/DC will literally shake the whole cab, which is gnarly.

[@jdo1842]

@@nerdloftgaming awesome -- thank you so much for the feedback- one more question if you don't mind ? Plexi or no Plexi ? i just can't decide which way to go without seeing it

[@nerdloftgaming]

@@jdo1842 I have plexi on mine - it’s may be tricky to see at the end of the video (viewing angle portion 16:37) but it definitely cleans up the look!