Checking Out the Minisforum UM560: A Pint-Sized Powerhouse!

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[@RichardEricCollins]

I think you're underselling that device. I have a year old Asus PN50 with a 4800u. As a cpp developer on Linux it is excellent. It's idle power is so low I never turn it off. 16 threads can chew most things that I throw at it. I run three 1080p displays. I love it. So quite. If you don't need GPU power these small systems are very good. Mine has 2TB storage and 64gig ram.

[@davidg5898]

I'm a big fan of Minisforum type systems. They are a killer solution for every situation other than heavy GPU usage. I got a UM350 for a family member (who doesn't game) early this year to replace their 10-year-old HP.

[@nadiasmith3262]

Just waiting on a 6xxx series and RDAN2 in this form factor. I was going to pull the trigger on one of Minisforum platforms more than once. But, RDNA2, DDR5, PCIe 4.0 and Ryzen 6xxx mobile series in this for factor would make me very happy ...for a while at least.

[@Jamdat33]

Waiting for this as well. Hopefully early 2023!!

[@nadiasmith3262]

@@Jamdat33 I actually think such a system would indeed be very cool. It won't be cheap. But that'll be a lot of horsepower, I/O and efficiency in something so small.

[@Jamdat33]

@@nadiasmith3262 definitely won't be cheap 😁 love the small and powerful systems too much

[@Nunkuruji]

Yes, this

[@denvera1g1]

5:13 I use a 4750GE equivelant of this from Lenovo (M75Q gen2) as my primary TV recording server.

[@Blacklands]

Once we can get a machine like this with at least one (fully-featured) USB4 port, I'm all in. I especially like how it also gets its power over USB-C. So the power brick is pretty modular, and easily replaceable.

[@dareisaysneed]

You should check out Sunshine and Moonlight, they're open source implementations of Nvidia's game streaming thing and can run on both Windows and Linux (and AMD/Intel hardware!).

[@NyneIX9]

Wow! I always thought Moonlight was best, if not exclusive, for Nvidia hardware. Never heard of Sunshine.

[@ewenchan1239]

I had a Minisforum HX90 for a litlte while, but it kept freezing/crashing on me. Couldn't tell if it was because of the memory (even though it passed memtest86). So now I'm using a Beelink GTR5 5900HX instead and that thing is a beast. I'm currently running 10 VMs off of it (I bought mine with 64 GB of RAM and a 1 TB NVMe SSD) and it's been completely solid! It's amazing to go from a mid tower computer to these mini PCs now - just the reduction in the power consumption plus the fact that the package size is, a lot of times, smaller than the Corsair CX750M power supply that I tend to use in my tower systems. That's just crazy how far we've come with mini computing these days.

[@johnmijo]

I'm actually looking at this very same model to use a a Home Theater PC with some lite gaming and EMU stuff on my Samsung TV. I also want to connect all my USB Storage Devices onto it for ease of connection ;) I find that sometimes the Windows Share will break and I have to reboot to revivie that shared connection.

[@ewenchan1239]

@@johnmijo There is a possibility that Windows share might be getting (temporarily) disconnected if your system goes to sleep. I would check to make sure that that isn't the case with your system. There is also a potential possibility that you are trying to connect to your system over WiFi instead of via hardwire, that may happen as well. And I also don't remember if Windows share has an inactivity timeout or not. I don't think that it does, but you might try to google that to make sure that there isn't one set by default, and/or if there is, set the timeout time to be something ridiculously high if it needs to have a positive integer value for that field. (It's been a while since I've had to use Windows sharing as most of my systems have moved on to some form of Linux as the host OS for data storage applications.) Thanks.

[@johnmijo]

@@ewenchan1239 thanks, but I turn off power management and any kind of sleep modes on my computers. Both in the BIOS/CMOS settings and the OS power plan settings, basically I use my own CUSTOM settings.

[@ewenchan1239]

@@johnmijo No problem. Yeah, I'm not sure then. The last time that I was using Windows share, I was still running Windows XP, so there weren't as many potential modes of failure back then compared to now. Sorry that I wasn't able to help.

[@johnmijo]

@@ewenchan1239 I do know it could be problematic using XP and then was a bit better with Windows 7 and better yet in Windows 10 and 11, but not fully cured it seems. It is the Windows Share(SAMBA) pipe getting bjorked and to fix it you reboot and the share gets created once more and is fine. It seems to be purely random timing, no really reason why it happesn.

[@popcorny007]

Jellyfin yes please!!! Currently using Emby and all the hiccups are starting to annoy me, would love to hear your thoughts

[@mapwheel00]

Wendell I'd love to see you have a go at an MSI Pro DP20Z, because it's the only AM4 mini PC I've ever seen that looks like it could actually support some low-profile aftermarket cooler options. It'd be fun to see if you can get a Rembrandt chip working, beef up the cooling, and see how far you can push it in gaming and compute.

[@denvera1g1]

Cant wait for the 6800u or 7800u specked devices in this form factor.

[@finelliott2440]

Pro Tip addendum: take the adapter out of the plastic before taping to the inside of the case.

[@FindecanorNotGmail]

If I use the VESA-mount, is it possible to configure it so that it turns on automatically when I turn the monitor on? It seems quite a bit difficult to have to reach back behind the monitor and find the power button otherwise.

[@nexusyang4832]

You may want to setup Wake on LAN. That night be your workaround.

[@denvera1g1]

5:36 VegaII 7CU

[@KarlRosner]

A while ago a buddy's PC died and he needed to do a fresh install of windows but didn't have a PC him self to get make an install USB. Some one had built him a PC with a spinning rust hard drive and it died, lol. So he waited like two weeks before a friend of his could get him the install media. So my use case scenario for a mini PC would be to assist me while generating install media and maybe being a portable media thing when travelling, I do like how I could fit it in a backpack though, would make going to a buddies house to work on their PC a lot easier. That said the cost of these micro PCs if you want a 'good' configuration that can do any thing is pretty steep and if you are slapping a graphics card into one you might as well just build a Micro ATX computer instead as the whole thing isn't very portable. If Minisfourm made a micro PC that had a case large enough to fit most graphics cards and a really good air cooling solution I'd consider buying it because then I wouldn't have to screw around with building an ITX form factor PC. It would almost certainly be cheaper too as those ITX builds get EXPENSIVE.

[@heretolevitateme]

Something you didn't mention: How is the linux support for the 2.5gbps nic/wifi/bluetooth chipsets?

[@nibelungvalesti]

Baldur's gate... yum

[@barfnelson5967]

The best current client for jellyfin is the firestick 4k max with the ethernet adapter. it plays everything and is super nice and comes in well under 100 dollars. If someone would figure out who manufactures this product and get it released with lineageos instead it would be amazing.

[@t.m.grokas6832]

LMAO I got my wife that monitor because she liked how it looked on her desk. Glad we agree on the quality. Love the VESA mount with stand configuration for these Mini PCs

[@DarkBladeUltimate]

Ay i picked one these up honestly phenomenal for what my animation work did notice wasn't meant for streaming kinda bummer but hey im still rocking high end games off stream no performance issue couldn't complain think great purchase especially since I move around a lot so easy pick this up take it on go with me love my boss face when he see me working and using TV or projector lmao 🤣 he made it an effort throw me in rooms without a monitor see how ill work without distracting others (work home most time)

[@haasii]

I ordered the UM580 for my dad, think it will be good for a long time for him!

[@chromerims]

Nice vid.👍 Looking fwd to videos from you about Emby and JF

[@davidlt]

Once there one with 6000-series barebones, RDNA2, USB 4.0 Type-C, 2.5G LAN, etc. I am all in.

[@nopenope1]

I have now my Steam Deck, with a Dock. That'a also kinda mini 🤪

[@BDChupacabra]

“Garbage tier monitor” Me: *sweats in even more garbage tier monitor from 12 years ago*

[@mrfilipelaureanoaguiar]

I like the festure of being able to screw it on the vesa 100x100. You can install what you want just with that monitor like a router, or ubuntu server with gui. Not a nas storage but something at least, even windows to play small games,nvme is not a 8tb hhd...its good thing.

[@theOSMaxwell]

I got the UM580 preordered. Would be cool if you also make a video about it :D

[@Zlaty-t5w]

Happy Labor Day, everyone!

[@gucky4717]

I have a PC that is a little bit bigger. The Densium4+ a 5L PC. It fits a 3060Ti and the NH-L9i. There is an even smaller one with 4L, but it needs an even smaller GPU. I didn't get a MSI ITX Aero 3060Ti. :P

[@withorwithoutacause]

lowest end/power option that you could add a 4 port nic to for a opnsense build? videos on your use cases for more low end hardware and also high end add in GPU builds would be great

[@marcogenovesi8570]

old thin clients like HP T620 plus or T730 Plus or Fujitsu Futro S920 have a quadcore pre-ryzen AMD CPU with AES NI and a pcie slot for a quad port nic. They are strong enough for full gigabit routing and relatively decent 100-ish Mbit OpenVPN. They usually consume around 10-15w idle with a quad card (decent modern quad cards). They are all just normal mini-pc with a UEFI firmware, so you can just connect a USB and install pfsense/opnsense/whatever

[@marcogenovesi8570]

see the video "The Best Budget x86 Router! (OpenWRT, pfSense, OPNSense) Fujitsu S920 Review" from Wolfgang and the videos "HP T620 Plus Firewall Overview and NIC Installation" and "Thin Client w/ NIC for VMs and Firewalls HP T740" from ServeTheHome

[@thelistener4101]

Whollie Mollie... Wendell's fly'n at Mach 1 or faster... all those "BOOMS" he say'n in the video beginning...

[@brightshadowdenmark]

wanted a 5600GE but cud not get one, so bought the 5600G for a 4K 60fps streaming box (HDPLEX H1 V2) any good advice to get as low power consumption as possible ? shut be able to go from 65w to 45w but wants to go much lower :D mobo is an: ASRock B550M-ITX/ac

[@killroy713]

I'm looking at this for a AMP game server deployment for my group of friends. Valheim minecraft factario or what ever in modular containers in a sub 600 dollar mini sever.. yes please

[@MikeG-js1jt]

will this thing beat my 4790k in a production environment?.... as I'm looking to replace it by now.......... just need something for light VO/audiobook editing with adobe audition

[@RiftRavingRogue]

Please go more in-depth with the streaming changes on the horizon and what/how you plan on dealing with it

[@Stinkfoot1403]

Wendell are you losing weight?? Haven’t seen you in a couple years and you’re looking better than I remembered!

[@thelistener4101]

🛑🛑 Ok Wendell, I'm nit-pick'n here... you mention a "VESA" mount included.. BUT you DON'T mention IF it's an adjustable VESA mount.. what is/are the dimensions for this VESA mount??? My reason for asking is my OLDer TV (2018) has 200x200 mounting holes and would like to mount this minisforum UM580 to the TV backside to clear up space around the TV table (without using just one/1 hole to hang it from).. SO, please SEE this question and reply what dimensions this mounting bracket is/are (smallest to largest)... THANKS MUCH!!! 🧋

[@Catchgate]

Literally expected that fan to be on the UM560 by the end of the video.. much disappoint :(

[@Clarence-Homelab]

I love mini PCs but I absolutely need 10gbit to be able to use it as a proxmox host. Come on...... 10GBASE-T has been around since 2006. Shame on you consumer motherboard vendors for this absolutely useless 2,5gbit stop-gap. If 5gbit is next I will lose my shit!! ^^

[@gmac231984]

Such a shame it does not cope with 8k60hz... :(

[@matthewpalmer9820]

5:30 what game is that

[@NyneIX9]

Looks like Baldur's Gate: Enhanced Edition...

[@alonzosmith6189]

Is there a model with dual nics?

[@marvintpandroid2213]

USB nic?

[@pascalvorbach6829]

Networking i suppose

[@ericneo2]

Yes, TH50(intel 11th), HX90(AMD 5900) look up ETA PRIME on youtube. It's perfect for a small server, router, firewall, piehole, or truenas machine paired with a 10GB sabrent docking station.

[@marcogenovesi8570]

UM700 with Ryzen 7 3750H and U700 with Intel i5-5257U

[@djbusters]

Intersting device. Sorry Wendel, but what got my attention is the fake elon musk ad. Does anyone know how to report these fake ads on youtube?

[@TheOriginalJAX]

OR you could just get a Zotac Zbox which is just better in every way, they have more models, that are newer with more configuration options. They do everything that these things do and then some. These cheap knock off companies need to go away, always to little to late.

[@TechySpeaking]

First

[@R055LE.1]

Bold shit talking the objectively best monitor manufacturer (who make most of the panels for their competitors even) AND mispronounce VESA in the same breath. 🤣

[@NeonThoughtBox]

First!

[@CapComa]

We're all really proud of you. You are a role-model to all of us here in the internet

[@StephenMcGregor1986]

@@CapComa I was looking into infrastructure engineering, but seeing people comment "first" on KZbin has me making serious re-considerations to my life aspirations

[@CapComa]

@@StephenMcGregor1986 You have to set your priorities straight. Clean your room. Wake up at 5am. Do push-ups. Have a healthy breakfast. And always. *Always* comment "first" when you are actually first.