1962 Triumph TR4, Engine Rebuild Series, Engine Disassembly...What Did We Find????

Taking the engine to pieces in the 1962 Triumph TR4....What did we find?
Thanks Elin of Rusty Beauties Fame for the assist.

[@robertharrison9248]

Excellent team work!

[@cheftush]

Thank You Robert

[@mikeg5877]

Thanks fellas, always fun to see frick and frack in action.

[@chrisdaley2200]

I love taking stuff apart to see how they work! You and Elin do a great job showing all the details. 👍

[@cheftush]

Thanks Chris, yes, it’s fun to take stuff apart 😉

[@rickdaniel8478]

Cool 😊 Zoom zoom !

[@craigwiest772]

Very interesting. Great seeing all the bits and pieces in the correct spots since my engine came in boxes. The details are very helpful.

[@skipgould1780]

Nice to see you disassembling without dissembling😃

[@indyme2]

Enjoyed the video Tush Meister. Keep the camera rolling.

[@cheftush]

Roger that! Should I be saving and sending my used parts down to You? 😉

[@indyme2]

Thanks for the generous offer but hang on to them. Trying to rearrange the shop to get the queens car in and a TR. Just not enough room to work here anymore. Hope to get back on Triumphs soon.@@cheftush

[@pubu2010]

Well Chef, I have to say, I'm impressed with your finesse and skill with various tools, systems, and techniques. Well done. The Czech Volkswagen is in very good hands.

[@davidf.6714]

Thanks for the video! I myself have a spitfire engine sitting and waiting for parts, you’re not kidding about the rust scale. I picked a warm day in Toronto and spent hours with the pressure washer! cheers

[@cheftush]

Hi David, yes I’m interested to get the piston liners out to have a better look at the block.

[@bobeaseshop9389]

Howdy! It has been a long time. Still making cabbage rolls? I was looking at Lost Wrench Garage just now found you had made a comment and decided to say hi. Now and then I look over and see Elin's Rusty Beauties to see what he's up to. My channel got hacked a few year ago but I'm still plugging along. I had several thousand subs but lost them all but back up to almost 600. I love your pro work and will get back into catching up on your channel. I have a farm now and have been restoring the old farm house and such but at least I have a big barn to keep cars and my old truck in. I hope you and your family are well and once again it will be nice to catch up on some of your work. I'm putting a Jegs accl cable in the MKIII Spitfire today and I'm hoping it will let the Weber I put on work a bit smoother so I still do the work. What ever happened to the Spitfire guy that served on Submarines? I think he got out of the Spitfire business? Bobby

[@cheftush]

@@bobeaseshop9389 hi Bob! Wondered what happened to You. I think you might be thinking of Chris Fisher?

[@bobeaseshop9389]

YES That was him. Thanks for reminding me - so I just looked him up and he's still at it and I'll also catch up with his work.

[@cheftush]

@@bobeaseshop9389 yeah he’s working on a TR4 now

[@crasbee]

5:23 Wow, that washer that was siliconed on the timing cover was a desaster waiting to happen. If that fell down, it would've probably damaged the timing chain quite severely.

[@cheftush]

Fortunately, I was just a rubber or fibre washer.

[@wtbm123]

Good you could get new parts .I wondered if bearing pitting was from moisture , but if that was the case , would thought the steel crank would of been rusted and pitted more.

[@cheftush]

Yeah, I’m not sure what caused that.

[@TheLostWrenchGarage]

I am going to chime in on the pitted main bearings. I ran across this years ago when I was helping a friend tare down a small 4 cylinder Ford engine for rebuild. It sat for years also and what we figured is that there condensation in the block and it would settle on the bottom main bearing. This engine had 4 main caps and they where all that way but the rod bearings where fine but just worn. Just one of the things that make you say Hhummmm?

[@cheftush]

Quite possible…this car sat for some time, covered outdoors I believe.

[@andrewward3752]

Well, that was fast!

[@cheftush]

Like a little kid opening presents 😉

[@davidwarr8600]

Hi, nice tear down. Chef, how about doing the same as you did with the original overhaul . Itemize the cost of the engine rebuild. It looks like it may be costly.

[@cheftush]

Sure, I can try and do that. There are things that a budget builder might do differently though…for example, they might keep the cam…get new lifters…keep the timing chain and gear set ….keep the liners and get new pistons etc etc…Cheers, Tush

[@jimconklin8040]

I am waiting for the toxicology report on the crankshaft bearings as to what caused the pitting. The broken piston ring was interesting. I am sure you guys will have the engine back together and in perfect condition. Make sure you go to the car wash at night, they frown on dirty engine cleaning in their bays. I spotted only an open Diet Coke, no Stella bottles.

[@cheftush]

Yeah, maybe someone will jump in on an opinion on the pitting…the plan for the block is to clean and degrease it prior to going to the car wash…the thought was just to try and clean out some of the rust that’s going to be in the block and water passages once the liners are removed. So, really, it would just be to remove rust scale, not grease and oil 😉 But, you are right, they’d probably frown on that too…we have a pressure washer at the garage…just a bad time to fire it up as it’s been winterized…

[@nicknick-ht5dv]

good job just brought a tr250 help lol

[@cheftush]

I have a big TR250 playlist on my channel if you’d like to take a look. Congrats on the 250. They are great cars

[@nicknick-ht5dv]

@@cheftush yes they are great cars tr 250 been watching long time

[@omphaloskeptic4989]

Howdy Cheftush, I'm curious about the excessive run out on the main thrust bearing; could you possibly mic the washer and share the result?

[@cheftush]

Sure, I can do that the next time I’m working on it…in doing some research, according to the shop manual, even at .011 it was still within the max wear tolerance per the manual at .015

[@iceman9678]

Fun fact: All you will find in Canada are TR4A or TR4AA or TR4BA

[@cheftush]

True 😉 I have a licence plate for my 1960 TR3A that says TR3 EH

[@neilrogers8931]

My 1961 TR3A licence plate is TR3EH. Great minds think alike?

[@cheftush]

@@neilrogers8931 absolutely! 😉

[@robertharrison9248]

If there is a groove under the timing chain tensor how bad does it have to be before you recommend replacing the front engine plate? I missed the very large pipe wench and sledge hamper to remove the crankshaft pulley bolt. 🙂

[@cheftush]

Hi Robert, we actually took the crank pulley bolt out in the previous episode when we were pulling the engine as we wanted to get the fan off and went ahead and removed the bolt at the same time…it comes off quite easily with a good high torque impact gun and socket. Most times the groove can just be cleaned up, welded and ground flat instead of replacing the engine plate entirely.

[@Michaeld-jk4kv]

Tush, I need to replace the head studs for my TR4A restoration and I saw you using an interesting tool to remove them. Can you share what that was?

[@cheftush]

www.summitracing.com/parts/lil-71200?seid=srese1&gclid=CjwKCAjwyo60BhBiEiwAHmVLJeCuVQzauS_cpsx-ElJ_OqbEpm3iT-YLeb2s2UQAMHUoKWioXn8vfxoCrQYQAvD_BwE

[@Michaeld-jk4kv]

@@cheftush Oh, that's nice. Much better than using vice-grips. Thanks, I appreciate it.

[@andrepienaar6459]

This is just me, but I don't really like the continuous in and out zooming. It will still work if the work has progressed a bit between the zoom in and the zoom out. No offence!

[@cheftush]

No problem. I can take constructive criticism. Thanks for watching and commenting.

[@christopizza]

Was the oil slinger missing from the crank? Didn't see it during timing cover removal.

[@cheftush]

There wasn’t an oil slinger….i know the TR6 had them but I’m not sure about the TR4…I’m curious now so I’m going to check the parts diagram.

[@cheftush]

Just checked the parts manual…you are right, I don’t recall seeing the “oil thrower disc “ as it’s called…good catch!

[@christopizza]

No so much.... I left mine off during the last rebuild and by the time I found it, I had a lot of rework to do. :(

[@johnmoruzzi7236]

Interesting… but basically if you kept with the spirit of the rest of the car build you could have just freshened it up with a crank polish, new crank / rod bearings, cylinder liners, seals / thrust washers, valve seats etc. and just put it together properly and carried on enjoying the car ?

[@cheftush]

Not sure what you are trying to say John? Are you saying that we should have done this when we first got the car up and running?

[@barry6274]

Very Interesting results on your disassembly. The all new reassembly should be fairly easy with so many new parts. Great video, thanks again!

[@johnmoruzzi7236]

@@cheftush Not exactly but sort of ! Apart from the broken rings and tired bearings etc it doesn’t seem to really need a full rebuild for occasional use, since you aren’t paying workshop fees etc. you don’t need to go for all new stuff (timing chain looks to have been done and ok ?) and do a super duper job since when you did the car last year you were using up good spares that you had saved. I guess for a simple engine that gets liners and matched pistons instead of a rebore etc. you can justify a proper job now but last year a quick and dirty refresh might have done the trick ?

[@cheftush]

@@johnmoruzzi7236 I think it will work out ok in the end…I didn’t want to do a simple quick fix as that would have been a more temporary solution…remember, we were fighting time back when we did this as well…since we have the off season (winter) it made more sense to pull it apart now and fix it properly and have some good longevity built into it.