Cherry UB88-0005 review (Cherry M8)

[@co3476]

Glad that I passed on this one. I was going to snatch it but the missing key is a deal breaker for me.

[@jackbizzell5966]

As the wife always says, 2 derp-nerps don't make up 6 inches

[@AbiRizky]

Ouch

[@konstantinub]

The 1 2 3 and 7 8 9 rows on the numpad are likely flipped on your board. If the numpad went: 7 8 9, 4 5 6, 1 2 3, * 0 #, the up and down arrows would make a lot more sense :) Though that → on 5 is still an oddball for sure...

[@BjornThePiper]

Exactly the first thing I thought, especially given lows on the bottom and highs at the top are more common anyway. Like somebody might have taken it apart to clean it at one point and couldn't remember how it went back together.

[@cdigames]

Back in university they had a room with tons of very very old computer parts piled up including a few terminals that had keyboards strikingly similar to these. And if memory serves you are absolutely correct on the numpad sequence. I am not sure how this one ended up in a touch-tone layout however, cleaning and replacement of keys mayhaps?

[@sEaNoYeAh]

Having come across a few of these now all of them have had the digits in the orientation shown in the video, so it appears to be correct. It's an extremely weird design choice for sure.

[@leocomerford]

@@sEaNoYeAh One possible explanation might be that Cherry intentionally put the keypad in telephone layout, but while some or all of the bottom-row keycaps were moulded specifically for telephone layouts, Cherry saved some money by reusing 1-9 keycaps meant for calculator-layout keypads.

[@ArtyI]

It seems like the original user was too used to phone keypads and switched their keys over

[@Boyetto-san]

I do wonder, at some point, if Cherry ever truly made a really great switch. In terms of historical impact, sure, almost every single current-day mechanical keyboard innovation owes itself in some manner to the survival and patent expiry of Cherry MX, but anyone in the community who's honest with themselves all know deep inside that MX has never been anything more than mediocre to decent.

[@BrianMcKee]

Gotta give em credit on longevity though, even dirty examples of old MX boards still feel ok.

[@Boyetto-san]

@@BrianMcKee It's a mixed bag. They hold up well to dirt, but it doesn't necessarily mean that they'll last in other respects. I used a pre-retool MX Blue board on a semi-regular basis and it ended up chattering on me after just 4 years.

[@nicolasreed21]

Vintage blacks

[@sEaNoYeAh]

@@BrianMcKee I'd contend that this is partly due to the feel being not great in the first place, so even though they don't get much worse there's only so much you can give credit for that. Plenty of switches that fair worse with age still feel better than Cherry's and also still work when in poor condition.

[@yanguYT]

honestly cherry's best switch would be cherry foam and foil

[@LIKWID]

I always like the video because your descriptions are the best way to review a product but I want to double like it for the derp-nerps!

[@SockyNoob]

It looks like an 80's keyboard hit by a shrink ray.

[@joongsukkie04]

Oh, finally a decent gaming keyboard for my tiny hands. Oh wait...

[@karellen00]

Sorry, it lacks RGB...

[@yanguYT]

@@karellen00 and it's stiffy uh

[@lucidmoses]

My guess would be the key pad arrows are emulating what was on old tellepones (where the 2 is on the bottom and such).

[@ziuygilug345t89phgrz]

I also have this board. If you are trying to touch type on this thing, your fingers are literally pressed tight together. That with having to press hard, makes me feel a bit claustrophobic using this. Great for a tiny person though (with strong fingers). Caps are A+.

[@arongongal5466]

"This will make a fine addition to my collection"

[@steem6703]

nice review m8 :^)

[@samuelschwager]

Waiter: "What would you like for lunch, sir?" Me: "Anything but keyboard soup!"

[@nevinkramer2729]

nice find. great info & review as always.

[@skruffl6757]

at first i didn't think the keycaps were that small but then the typing demonstration came along and i saw them in relation to your hands they look absolutely massive in comparison to they keycaps lmao

[@user-yz1pu4to6g]

The keycaps look like a downsized version on XDA imo

[@justinvfernando]

I have read somewhere that XDA were based on this keycaps.

[@georgemachappy]

I feel like those arrow keys would be fairly sensible if down and up were switched, but as they are ... are we meant to believe this keyboard has inverted y axis navigation? Maybe that nav cluster is what you get when you convert cardinal directions from metric to imperial?

[@stigrabbid589]

The cardinal directions are completely identical except the measurements have different names. Clocks on the other hand, those require a bit of conversion as many European clocks are 24 hr and American clocks are 12 hr.

[@smokinjoeee]

8:03 Typing demo for us mobile users.

[@severussnape6886]

I have a telephone with M8 "closed top" switches and DSA ABS-doubleshot keycaps exactly like 3:01 and they are MX compatible... Yeah, it sucks, lubing doesn't help it either (Krytox 205+103 equivalent lube)

[@NortelGeek]

What kind of phone?

[@severussnape6886]

@@NortelGeek Unbranded telephone, only named "BĐVN Vibt 87" stands for Bưu Điện Việt Nam a.k.a Vietnam Post Office... I checked the PCB but it gave nothing.

[@mr.y.mysterious.video1]

48k spectrum possibly has a worse space bar if you count it as one

[@CDKing_]

I actually really like the look of the case/layout. Tiny keys and weird arrows not withstanding... I'd be so down for a case in that style that's friendly to use with modern components.

[@thelastgenconsolegamer696]

Interesting keyboard. Great Review.

[@gavinnielsen1674]

Sounds like it's even smaller than the Cherry G84-4100 despite the board being wider and taller. Oh, quick question if you don't mind; Worse or better than Cherry ML?

[@Chyrosran22]

Hmmm, difficult, not sure off the top of my head xD .

[@neohideo]

What an interesting sound.

[@NortelGeek]

It looks like it may have been used in telecom as the numpad not only features star and pound (hash, octothorpe) but the numpad is in telephone layout. There's also a flash key.

[@tomgarside480]

those green stickers are a UK thing, in commercial premises electrical items have to be tested every so often to make sure they are safe

[@stevenjlovelace]

Thank you for converting to Derpnerps for us Americans.

[@XalphYT]

Somehow M10 doesn't sound as cool as MX when spoken out loud. Maybe MX switches became popular in part because of their cool name.

[@ffmfg]

That diagonal arrow instantly reminded me of the first keyboard I've ever used. It was also the worst keyboard I've ever used, but it was the 80s and I was 10, so I still have weirdly warm memories of it. Here's a picture if anyone's curious: www.computer-museum.ru/images/soviet-pk/soviet_pk_13_b.jpg

[@no-kf8yy]

*sees Cherry in title* This is gonna be good.

[@zakofrx]

What's the font they are using for the text?

[@RaphLevien]

It's also Helvetica (I think; there are a number of clone fonts that look like Helvetica, but I believe Cherry used the original version).

[@KeithOlson0326]

Despite everything, that mat-black case is damn sexy.

[@Ensue85A]

Police Car keyboard?

[@wisteela]

I'd love to know what terminal that came off. The missing key would be 'BS', backspace.

[@downthecrop]

my derpnerps loved this

[@NoEntertainment]

soooooo I'm assuming the "M" in "M8" (as with MX) *still* stands for mediocre. it's been in their blood this whole time.

[@don_chanGD]

apart from greens, havent used gateron greens tho but yeah greens are really fucking good for me and idk why

[@NoEntertainment]

I guess to each to their own. Even switches that aren't that great can have their fans. And that's okay

[@flavortown3781]

It looks really big and really small at once

[@jacobhotaling8959]

how bad are they compared to simth corona leaf springs

[@Chyrosran22]

Not THAT bad xD .

[@omysan]

Well it looks nice

[@riflemanm16a2]

Nice B8 M8

[@Chyrosran22]

I R8 8/8

[@TDownit_Strider]

I disagree with the switches feeling like crap. I picked up a typewriter with these switches in it, and it felt rather decent. However, the switch life IS accurate, as half the keys need to be pressed VERY hard to register. They need a good cleaning.

[@matasxd]

Isn't Cherry MX actually just M10 written in roman numbers? Just like the iPhone ten

[@noface9932]

Is there any reference for the keycap to base off of, to model in 3d ?

[@andrecorreia4301]

I am new to the mechanical keyboard community and I want to buy a compact (60%) mechanical keyboard. I have seen that there are these hot swappable keyboard which from what I have read allow you to easily change your switches and keycaps. I would like one of those types preferably on the ANSI loadout so I can buy tai hao keycap sets and put them without any size or compatibility issues. Since there are hundreds of keyboards out there I wanted to know what recommendations you guys can give me on what keyboard should I buy considering the requirements I have just listed . Switch wise I have already ordered the kdbfans big set so I can try them and see what best fits me.

[@job3ztah447]

i like this keyboard. you awesome also you had have awesome vids

[@Idole]

i want switches that sound like the ones in your intro

[@JessicaFEREM]

that keyboard is deceivingly small, before you put your hands in frame, it looks massive

[@toolthoughts]

I'd probably swap the 123 ja 789 lines

[@mm-hl7gh]

So doubleshots with no bridges... Why do doubleshots have bridges today?

[@marco56702]

m m cheaper

[@JackOfHarts96]

That plug kinda looks like an XLR.

[@wkg19591]

DP compatible? Who isn't?

[@aydoooo]

Don't you think it's likely that the numpad keys are just attached incorrectly?

[@Chyrosran22]

No, other pictures of keyboards in this family show a similar layout. However, as people have mentioned, they're in a telephone layout.

[@an2qzavok]

I bet stiff spacebar is supposed to replicate the mechanical typewriter expirience.

[@Chyrosran22]

But the spacebar is just about the only key can be pressed really lightly on typewriters xD .

[@an2qzavok]

@@Chyrosran22 wait, which key was the stiff one on typewriters?

[@Chyrosran22]

@@an2qzavok All of them. You need to strike them hard enough, or the letters won't print. But this is not the case for the spacebar, as there's nothing to print.

[@hjalfi]

...did you just say 'specialty'? Who are you, and what have you done with the real Chyrosran22?

[@Chyrosran22]

Interesting, I didn't know that was an Americanism! xD

[@corbang5945]

I lost it a dirp-nerps

[@carson2889]

What do you think of 75% layouts?

[@Chyrosran22]

Very functional, but generally takes more time to get used to. They also vary more than any other form factor.

[@eliotharrell6061]

What the Dunkeh is a derp nerp

[@CommodoreFan64]

Love the look of the keyboard, but it does not look that usable, and I have a rule of thumb when buying any keyboard that I have to be able to use it on my systems either native, or via simple converter.

[@KaIeetan]

woah

[@ckafi1011]

Looks like a LEGO keyboard

[@NoahPiontek]

amp oil? rope? bombs? you want it? its yours my friend as long as you have enough ruby's. sorry link i cant give credit come back when your a little more mmmmmm richer

[@Blodwynnn]

*derpnerp*

[@gabrieledoria2896]

why do you collect keyboards that you don't like?

[@tuff_lover]

snowflake

[@honeydew5022]

6 and a half inches

[@thechemtrailkid]

someone set the arrow keys to tank controls

[@robred123s]

Yo, I just got my GMMK in, and I put Hako Royal Trues in it. These are by far the best feeling switches I've ever used. I've used MX Blues, reds, browns, Box Navy, even my old 88 Model M didn't feel this good. It might be because I've been typing on Navy's almost exclusively for a while now, but they just feel like butter. And the sound isn't half bad either. Edit: Went ahead and made a quick video to demo on the off chance you see this. These are tactile, and since I mostly prefer clicky, I wasn't sure if I'd like them, and was leaning toward Box Royals, but I'm glad the gamble paid off. kzbin.info/www/bejne/nYiVemCPi8h6ncU

[@Chyrosran22]

Is that a Hako True with a BOX Royal slider in it?

[@geostokes8573]

Tetris Nav

[@farstox4656]

The Cherry M8 switch? Is it English?

[@richarddr1234]

It looks like a child's keyboard

[@tornadomimicyclone6707]

Needs more swearing

[@iampineappleonpizza]

Wtf is derp nerps

[@Chyrosran22]

I know, I still don't understand these Imperial units either!

[@Kuraio]

I guess m8 is not so gr8 after all

[@mypeeps1965]

lol

[@phillipsofthedriver]

Seventh (like).