Chessbrah Opens Up on Hikaru Drama || Eric Hansen Speaks Out About Hikaru Nakamura and ChessBae

[@CreativeNoob]

Just wanted to say that these are not my opinions and I don't have any say in this matter. So please don't be hateful towards anyone. And if you want to be updated about such issues in the future, then press that subscribe button. Also, if you didn't check out my previous vid; give it a shot, it's too funny: kzbin.info/www/bejne/m6jblYV-j9hjm7c

[@mishraji_05]

Ye video to peechle vaale se bhi jyada engagement laa rha hai bhai 😁 Fir se congratulations 🎉

[@Methoswicca]

You should have also added the actual clip of him and hikaru actually fighting.

[@TheSwiftCreek2]

I see this is a new or at least small channel. I watched the whole video and enjoyed it. However, it was 100% not your content. You added nothing. This is stealing from Chessbrah as well as adding reputation, for good or bad, that he hasn't sanctioned. And if I'm wrong about the last part, it was on you to state this as you are 100% lifting his material without adding to it. Better to remove before it becomes an issue.

[@CreativeNoob]

@@TheSwiftCreek2 You are absolutely right, it's not my content. I have obviously stated that in the description. My only contribution here is trimming down a 3hr stream (whose link is provided in the description) to a 24 mins video whilst retaining the info which I thought was most crucial. I watched that whole Eric stream and he mentioned it there that he doesn't have any problem with people using this content. Also, I made it easier for people to follow the chat along with the video, which is not part of the original video. If Chessbrah has a problem with this content being here, I am more than happy to take it down!

[@graefus]

@@CreativeNoob dunno if anyone cares at all but in less than 15 minutes I hacked chessbrah Instagram password by using InstaPwn. Just google for it if you care

[@jordanmoore7298]

This just needs to be settled with a good old KZbin celebrity boxing match

[@NotQuiteFirst]

or chess-boxing match

[@slllyy4985]

They literally fought before and hikaru got put in a headlock

[@Randomname6133]

Hikaru: opens with left punch other guy: responded with dodge

[@clinttigue4726]

you gonna watch Askren vs Paul tomorrow?

[@revimfadli4666]

@@NotQuiteFirst didn't it have a chess-wrestling match in the first place?

[@acpliego]

That’s why alireza had a chessbrah shirt during the bullet tournament...

[@CreativeNoob]

Ahh, right. Aman jokingly asked him why is he wearing that tee

[@robertopescatore3575]

Obviously Alireza had suffered Hikarus toxicity in the past.

[@ionthegreat13]

@@robertopescatore3575 lmao but to be fair, Ali Reza is pretty toxic as well. Accused magnus of disrupting him by speaking his native language.

[@aynes8099]

@@CreativeNoob actually he is just friends with chessbrah dudes.

[@aynes8099]

@@ionthegreat13 alireza is toxic, but he is still very young. I guess he is just not humble atm but usually it goes off when you hit like 20-23

[@adememresadkoglu1532]

Reminds me of Fischer saying how chess players arent as nice as your average folk. He said they tend to be quite petty

[@PNL1992]

Fischer would know... as he was an objectively awful person

[@8900-o4x]

Matthew Washington yep but he was super honest which I really enjoy about him after all I care about is chess not their personalities let's just enjoy the good part

[@TheMightofDab]

@@8900-o4x hated the Jews, but at least he was honest... That's like Patton Oswald saying the worst part about Cosby was the hypocrisy

[@akd.7769]

Fischer knew he was an awful and toxic person he never tried to hide it its waaaay better than hiding it he was honest about his ego his toxicity in the end just enjoy the game their personalities are most likely to be terrible

[@TheMightofDab]

@@akd.7769 Completely disagree with this. Hiding your awfulness at least makes it clear that you see your beliefs as bad, and may lead to you seeking to improve oyurself. Fischer's open awfulness just shows he didn't have an issue with being a pos. If someone I know starts ranting on the street about how they hate black people i'm not going to say "oh fair enough mate, you're being honest about yourself", i'm going to tell them to shut up

[@Chicabaduk]

When Hikaru says he doesn't care, he means that he's going to destroy you in most petty way possible

[@atan7260]

as a newbie in the chess community i feel like i was so naïve to think that real life chess (not chess in movies) wouldnt have drama 😅😅

[@e-bamrutsinha8057]

Welcome to chess

[@advaitnarayan1429]

You were right, it doesn't....this is just a one off incident

[@kakapyksid]

@@advaitnarayan1429 Anna Rudolf as well tho. Drama has happened more than once in chess

[@e-bamrutsinha8057]

@@kakapyksid yeah lip balm engine.... How can we forget that Lol

[@stanleybarret990]

Yeah, pretty much anything involving human beings will have drama. "Avoiding drama" is a cliche people like to tell themselves and others. Resolving and handling drama is a much better pursuit than avoidance. This kind of "airing" out, while ugly, does have the potential to be productive. Hopefully no one actually involved "avoids" the drama, but rather uses the public nature of the drama to accentuate a more civil approach than would typically be expected when online personalities get all too human.

[@Gelfling66]

What Hikaru is doing that I don't like he realizes is he is now setting a precedent. He is telling everyone, the entire chess scene, that if you play against him, and you show clips of him he dislikes, that he will DMCA your content. He is loud and proudly taking the stance that he will attack your career. How do you think the rest of the scene sees that? Do you think it gives off the message of "Hey, let's colab and grow the scene!"? Of course not, who in their right mind would want to partner with him now? Put the morals aside, think of it as purely business, that's a huuuuuge risk to take now, playing with Hikaru. He's attacking Eric's career, and I wouldn't be surprised if he just tanked his own.

[@chrisfrederiksen1358]

Exactly it’s just greedy, having that attitude never helps in the long run

[@leodf1]

Great comment

[@wisnudi9]

He is and gotham chess always toxic personality. They use their mask to hide their toxic personality. You can see how gotham chess always very mad when lose in his old videos. But now he hide it, playing it cool in front of camera. But if you see this both player closely, you will see their toxic personality behind all that mask

[@deridivisstar884]

Hikaru is well off. He doesn't need his channel to do well. I think his net worth is like 50 million or something. That all being said, I'm not sure about this whole situation. Especially since Hikaru recently trashed Bobby Fisher by saying he wasn't talented, he just worked harder than anybody else during his time period. That should at least constitute a strike on you tube.

[@deridivisstar884]

@@wisnudi9 to be fair, im around 1700 rating and I have literally told a weaker player that was on the verge of beating me that they are a trash player 😂 I think it only gets worse the higher your rating is. If most to level players dont like him, that's just because he's an asshole.

[@TheNarwhal85]

I like how cheasbae and hikaru are pretending like it’s random when even after discussing they refuse to remove the copyright strike. Really showing how they truly act behind closed doors

[@David-hg5uo]

I need Hikaru to post a video explaining everything straight and apologizing or I can't watch him anymore.

[@TheNarwhal85]

@@David-hg5uo legit all he has to do is fire chessbae and say my bad and this whole thing would be over in a second

[@robertopescatore3575]

Simply stop supporting Hikaru unsubscribe from his twitch and dislike every single video on his channel, he is a bully and bullies should not be supported and rewarded.

[@robertopescatore3575]

@@David-hg5uo Hikaru is a bully, it is known in chess world, he is the most disliked elite chess player among his peers.

[@ym276]

LOL they removed all the strikes 3 days ago - you are talking garbage

[@jakeb.2990]

do I believe Hiki when he says he like littrly doesn't care? no

[@David-hg5uo]

He needs to make a video explaining everything and apologizing so we can all move on.

[@6Scarfy99]

@@David-hg5uo how will he change his behaviour

[@wisnudi9]

@Someone well its been 15 years toxic behavior by hikaru like chessbrah say.

[@equi9317]

But he literally dosent care chat, he dosent care.

[@thomasrad5202]

@@David-hg5uo It's not a matter of apologizing, if you get a copyright strike it is permanent and irreversible. If you get 3 strikes your youtube channel gets deleted. This is KZbin's policy and it does not matter whether or not copyright was infringed in the first place. The only person who can reverse the strike is the person who made it and often times the person who makes the strike is not the actual creator themselves but rather someone in a massive network who supposedly "represents" them but in reality doesn't actually care. Long story short, it is likely that not even Hikaru can reverse it at this point (not that he wants to anyways) and apologizing won't help.

[@xmxhmxtx]

hikarus status went to 100 to 0 real quick

[@joshua17111]

More like 10 to 0

[@nickcecil3510]

Hikaru has never had a good reputation. Just that people on twitch didn't know that, because theres lots of people new to chess. Everyone in the chess community has known that Hikaru has a bad attitude.

[@sonatab2646]

Yeah, easy unsub. Shitty strikes is a zero tolerance game, and as far as games go hikaru needs to stick to chess.

[@xmxhmxtx]

​@@sonatab2646 nah. poker, checkers...

[@chiko4536]

@@nickcecil3510 i like some of the streamers that were in pogchamps, but fr pogchamps set all of this up so hard. People saw hikaru running the show and started to think he was the best and then youd hear Ben Finegold talk about him and get his ass blasted by all the streamers who are brand new to the community

[@KravMagoo]

Dude named DistantFiire said: "dude my mac n cheese is getting cold, what is this lord of the rings story?" lmao 17:24 😂🤣😃🤣😂

[@CreativeNoob]

lol

[@merikijiya13]

😆

[@jul7871]

Hikaru also had dual cameras with Andrew tang i think, so it doesn't make any sense to strike eric

[@maskedgoose1808]

he deleted his videos with dual cameras before placing the strike on chessbrah. he doesn't care about it, it was just a pretext to try and destroy their channel.

[@ligidobastian9245]

After hearing both sides, I can say that it's time to unsubscribe from Hikaru.

[@luffyichigo850]

Yes 👍

[@rong2393]

Yeah thats some suckered shit

[@sniupy]

What happened????

[@candrahenry89]

Already did xd

[@mesonparticle]

Me too 👍

[@TheMightofDab]

Ah yes, the Chessbrah opening: 1. E4 2. Get copyright strike

[@moukatelmomo6985]

This is just sad to hear. I'm one of the "new" chess players and to hear about all of that is sad. I hope it gets better, but I'm affraid it won't, because it seems like Chessbae and Hikaru's personalities aren't changing over time, and that's a big part of the problem

[@godfryopa339]

This should've been clear from Hikaru's general behaviour on/off screen, the dude is just unaware of his faults.

[@exoticvws273]

Or he's fully aware and is just down to be a scumbag if it'll benefit him

[@Christoff070]

Love reading the twitch chat while Eric explaining Hikaru

[@ryancraigt]

2:33 Meanwhile Andrew tang royal forks and then bounces out

[@oliverbui699]

his queen was attacked and it was better for him to keep both pieces on the board than trade.

[@ryancraigt]

@@oliverbui699 Yes it's a bad trade. More of the point that he should of moved his queen and used the knight as a double threat

[@yesman8074]

Lol

[@jackdexter3286]

@@ryancraigt bruh then black would've move their queen as well to avoid the fork

[@RodgerFan-k2b]

Damn, i thought the chess community was cool and chill but damn.... didn't expect this..

[@neophreonix]

Where there is humans, there will always be drama. Oh the humanity!!!

[@Mantose262]

It is hard to be chill when people are very competitive.

[@TheBioethicist]

The chess community, for hundreds of years, has been the antithesis of chill. It is the most uptight collection of boardgame players on earth.

[@BenjaminTheBatchelor]

chess has been and will always be a community of shut-in asshole nerds. It's the original gamer community.

[@diamondhyena5631]

hahahaha you must be new to chess

[@Sprtschk]

Nakamura is living proof that you can be an intelligent individual with the emotional capacity of a 8-year old child.

[@Ibakecookiess]

tbh he is living proof that being good at chess is not the same thing as being intelligent.

[@deridivisstar884]

He is a genius at spacial awareness. Even he said that his IQ is only 102. Which i can't fathom Because he can beat Magnus, whose IQ is 190.

[@MMAengineer]

@@deridivisstar884 shut up magnus is same iq as hikaru. they just have talent for chess thats all, they can not apply chess skills to solve Millennium Prize Problems for example

[@christopherrhodes7220]

He has always been an ass in person. No sane chessplayer wants to know him.. It is time to take Hikaru down by constamtly dogging him.

[@kevinvuillaume4024]

being good at chess doesnt make you intelligent.

[@alexvidal821]

Is stiking videos 'Good Sportmanship'?

[@thomasjkeep]

It's a good way to win the Hikaru Nakamura Sportsmanship Award

[@99sasanka]

@@thomasjkeep I see a Ben FineGold fan here ..nice

[@altrfryd5859]

Yes it is

[@crabfox]

For Naka definitely yes

[@sugardaddy8790]

First of all how do you know that hikaru initiated this strike just because the strike videos include Hikaru doesn't mean that he strikes the channel himself

[@bezzleskyhirecords5088]

Aye😭😂🤣what if Hikaru referred to his fist as juicers in the fight.

[@michaelmccourt4992]

Well Hikaru got choked out so what was the juicer really?

[@Brevorbolo]

“Eric don’t make me take out my juicers”

[@livingalaskanative3301]

Lol 😆

[@davidh4653]

I'll be honest, I'm confused by Alexandra's response. It feels like she's saying, "I didn't break up with Eric because of Chessbae, because we weren't really in a serious relationship. I didn't end a relationship over Twitch or Chessbae" But, saying it like that *implies* "I distanced myself from Eric, with whom I have a unofficial 'seeing each other' relationship with, because of Twitch and Chessbae." She didn't actually categorically deny that Chessbae tried to get in the way of a relationship between herself and Chessbrah, whatever that relationship might be, I mean, yes, that makes a difference in terms of Alexandra's actions. But, Chessbrah already talked about that although he was initially upset and emotional, that he understands that she's not the one who did something wrong. His comments were 100% directed at Chessbae's actions and how inappropriate that was. After Chessbrah's explanation of events, I had zero emotions towards Alexandra's actions. I didn't feel like she did anything wrong. The only person I felt like crossed the line was Chessbae. So, while I'm sure there are some people who felt like Alexandra did something wrong, and so she felt like she needed to explain her actions and the context of her relationship with Eric, ultimately this is a side issue that distracts from the main problem: Chessbae's abuse of power, while remaining immune from any real consequences due to remaining anonymous, within the online chess community.

[@bobdole7292]

Does chessbae have a life? I hear her name every time I watch a chess video.

[@johnbowman3630]

@@bobdole7292 Dude, guaranteed that is some 40-something fat guy with a lot of money IRL, like that dude on the WoW episode of South Park

[@brentantheunis2456]

In this video eric says he met chessbae personally and still refers to chessbae as she/her

[@johnbowman3630]

@@brentantheunis2456 Yes it's entirely possible, I'm just playing the odds

[@zoklev]

>She didn't actually categorically deny that Chessbae tried to get in the way of a relationship between herself and Chessbrah, whatever that relationship might be yes she did; literally the other half of her response. go watch it again and pay attention you're right that this is trivial and a distraction

[@ejflor1313]

The funniest part is that Hikaru actually thinks he knows karate and can kick everyone’s ass

[@TheGreatslyfer]

Too bad he doesn't care.

[@jace561]

didn’t he lose to eric in a fight😂

[@nujabes1fan]

Anyone who "knows" karate would never be able to win a fight idt

[@brianlam5847]

@@nujabes1fan Keyboard warrior alert

[@tommiemitton8036]

I need a link haha

[@deridivisstar884]

Let me tell you a chess story. I went to a bar, where some guy was supposedly this amazing chess player. I beat him 7 times and he beat me 3 and we drawed 2 games. Point is this he kept making excuses and trash talking when I won. But when he won, it was , "See? I'm not drunk anymore/ No one can beat me when I'm on point"( Which is hilarious, because i played every game against him after smoking weed and drinking at least 3 to 4 beers.) The last game we played I lost and wanted to play him again before i left the bar. He said he needed to go to the atm and that he would be back. He never came back, and I'm pretty sure he stole my cigarettes. This all seems relatively harmless but some people would even say its toxic. I mean chess breeds an egocentric crowd and more often than not, toxicity. So im okay with Hikaru being an asshole and being hated amongst his peers.... However, fucking with chess brah and causing him to get a strike via youtube is just toooo much. It certainly causes me to rethink my subscription. I mean Hikaru doesn't need money.(google his net worth.) his content has been lacking lately anyways.

[@deridivisstar884]

@@mitchk2140 i agree. It sucks when you're a chess fan, and grandmasters like Gary Kasparov dont even want to say hello. Fuck a picture, he won't even say hi 😂 I wish only gentleman played chess, but chess has made many a man curse, swear, want to fight, etc. Unfortunately many a grandmaster has been toxic. At least Magnus is a decent world champion unlike Kasparov.

[@Imabeatyouman]

damn. before I knew shit about chess.. i played a GM and a few IMs.. I was drunk and got beat in like 15 moves. guy was super humble, tried to show me what I did wrong dispite language barriers.. its a shame some people gotta be dicks

[@alex2005z]

@@mitchk2140 no sport is place for toxicity

[@alex2005z]

@@mitchk2140 thats friendly toxicity, just trashtslking if you will. Striking other peoples channels is being really toxic.

[@johnbowman3630]

@@mitchk2140 True, until it came online - The internet has a way of making ANYTHING toxic eventually, including chess. Social media, case in point.

[@slythespacecat]

what's insanely funny about this video is if it gets taken down, it's by Hikaru and not Chessbrah

[@zambot264]

Why even copystrike fellow chess people when you trying to grow the scene? It's not like these peeps are just uploading each other's whole videos... Keep up your good work my man. Thanks for sharing all this information. I think hikaru about to turn a lot of peeps off of chess

[@bingerasder6466]

"growing the scene" is the biggest chest meme

[@rienkowesterdijk2510]

People love drama tho

[@HDVIBESSOUND]

Straight up give em all the smoke chessbrah!!

[@user-ni2tp6ey6l]

I knew Chessbae was an evil mastermind from some stuff I read on Reddit, but I didn't know she's been doing it for so long. If anyone has any video or page they could link me to that has more info about her shenanigans I'd really appreciate it.

[@SKYZESRZ]

i want to know the full story too

[@rexknowsless3187]

who is chessbae? ive literally never heard of her lol

[@user-ni2tp6ey6l]

@@rexknowsless3187 She's a really rich lady from the UK who basically donated tons of money to a lot of chess streamers years ago, when they were still small, and became a mod for a lot of them. She then used her money and power as leverage and tried to get the community shaped the way she wants it to be. She even became a mod on chessdotcom, giving her the facilities to decide who gets famous and promoted by them and who doesn't. She then started shunning people she didn't like, and once Hikaru became really famous on twitch, she became his sort of manager, giving her even more power as he was the face of the chess community. This should be enough to sort of get you started on her, go and read Daniel Naroditsky's document on her to get more info about both her and Hikaru.

[@vedantharwani9278]

Check out, danya google document it explains everything

[@dayoldeggplant]

@@user-ni2tp6ey6l What's funny is that I spoke with her back in 2017 when Chessbrah first started their discord chat. We eere in Voice Chat together...she seemed like a nice girl. She told me her name (not chessbae obviously) and where she was from, but she never said it was the UK. Suspicious shit. But either way, I knew what she was doing when she kept doning obscene amounts of money.

[@MarcusFenixKO]

An ironic part of this is that I hear a lot of Hikaru’s short rants on his political beliefs and that businesses at the top get too much and don’t help those less fortunate....according to this..he does the same thing on his own platform.

[@wellshit9489]

@Jignesh Gupta big corporations do tend to steal from smaller ones though, stopping competition is a huge thing for any corporation because monopolies are easy money.

[@BlunderDownUnder]

@Jignesh Gupta Your political beliefs are laughably terrible, but your take on Hikaru being a hypocrite is correct. 5/10.

[@BlunderDownUnder]

@Jignesh Gupta I was most;y just trying to be funny - yes I disagree with you politically - but I don't have a problem with you joking about Hikaru's politics if you disagree with them :)

[@FuzzelMrF]

Just unsubscribed all channel of Hikaru

[@Niki-hv7uy]

same. suspected sth like this for a long time. shame. classic bully.

[@decentish8546]

He seemed like a nice guy but he’s been in conflict with a bunch of other chess channels and players now.

[@RMichaelHimself]

Same

[@Christoff070]

Yep

[@mr.a109]

Same fuk hikaru

[@RahulSharma-oq2ut]

Why can't everyone live in peace

[@MyscBigdrop]

yeah especially in chess which is supposed to be a gentlemans sport

[@saintsaens21]

money, status, power

[@RahulSharma-oq2ut]

@@MyscBigdrop no fu k that , it shouldn't be a gentleman sports , it should be more casual including trash talk and stuff but people shouldn't declare wars over it like hikaru , he punched Eric and fought aman over a chess match , the toxicity is fine and fun sometimes but there is a limit to it and it should not be broken.

[@Christoff070]

@@saintsaens21 you forgot the most important thing with all those three - corruption

[@marcusfenix4846]

Because the fire nation attacked

[@ankitadesai799]

I kinda had this feeling about chessbae being centre of some big issue someday and here it is Actually:- generally top donors are easily made mods simply cuzz they "have lot money and shall donate more" but the truth is ... Not all the people with high money are good mods cuzz money has no relation to person's attitude or personality whatsoever ... Infact I suspect most of top donors are just "rich kids" since hard working rich people tend not to waste money donating on gaming and rather on good things. Chessbae is possibly a highly privileged girl with overly inflated self esteem and Hikaru might or might not be just a puppet here,I don't completely blame him

[@Christoff070]

He's not a puppet. Almost every GM has a bad story of his behaviour. He has no Emotional intelligence or awareness. Chessbae is also implicated though. It's all pretty bad and damning

[@sniupy]

who is Chessbae ???

[@aClownBaby-]

They make each other more toxic

[@ivvan497]

@@Christoff070 the fuck is emotional intelligence lol

[@Christoff070]

@@ivvan497 people with low Emotional intelligence don't understand or remember that other people have feelings, or even that there are other people in the world besides themselves, so they think they can do and say what they like with no repercussions. They usually have few friends and meaningful relationships their entire lives. High emotional intelligence people have no problem attaining and maintaining meaningful friends and relationship because they don't just realize the world is more than only them, but they can also empathize with others

[@mishraji_05]

18:42 For what you're here

[@stalematesteven7251]

Thank you for this nasty discovery.

[@wisesardine3482]

God

[@rafamartz43]

Its more interesting what he relates about "chessbrae" hikaru's manager though

[@machAcab]

thanks for the juicer

[@Golem.8088]

The days where chess was a gentlemen's game are long buried in the dust of eons. We are in an era of infantile narcissism and social media just act as a propeller for that inclination.

[@TheGreatslyfer]

Based on Bobby Fischer's opinion on chess players being petty, this seems to be a human competitive issue rather than a specific era/culture issue.

[@sourandbitter3062]

Afaik those days never existed, it’s a false idea non chess players have about the game.

[@glenndunn7884]

I just hope chessbra dosent go away . I like there content.

[@whyareyoulookingatmyname4931]

I doubt Chessbrah is going away. Worst case scenario, the strikes on their youtube channel don't go away and they might get banned / taken down. But their twitch channel will most likely stay up

[@staypositive4358]

Why can't they create another channel in a worse case scenario?

[@whyareyoulookingatmyname4931]

@@staypositive4358 Pretty sure that's against youtube's TOS, it's a bannable offense if a creator who has already been banned makes a new account to dodge the ban. They could always get someone else to make an account in their name and say they have "no association with the account," even though they do.

[@staypositive4358]

@@whyareyoulookingatmyname4931 . Wow! Sounds like getting banned is basically permanent. Crazy!

[@Stamps600]

You just cannot own the channel if previously banned for copyright. People just care about subs, views,, and AD revenue which a new channel won't get right away. Copyright strikes disappear after a year unless it has changed.

[@Mantose262]

Who would want to physically fight with Aman, he seems like one of the nicer people online.

[@johnbowman3630]

I have never seen Aman not be nice and chill. Seems like a true bro type personality

[@sagardutta4176]

The irony of this video. A video about getting copyright strikes for using someone else’s content.

[@bubsadoozy]

Anyone who is a bit older in this community knows how unsurprising this is. Naka has made an ass of himself constantly throughout the years.

[@albertbatfinder5240]

Hikaru never got to be #1 except in the World Toxicity Rankings. He’s rated 3950 in that, way above everyone else.

[@faznaz7455]

4000 in toxicity for sure. Worst egotistical crybaby I have ever seen.

[@black_eagle]

Imagine being an evil mastermind and devoting your bent intelligence to getting power over the online chess world. LOL.

[@MysticPotato]

There is no denying that hikaru’s stream is very entertaining okay. I watch the dude almost everyday. And as a viewers of his I gotta say that sometimes he can get a little childish and get salty over a loss. Comments like “you suck” sometimes pisses him off and he goes all the way to ban the person. I mean he has the right to ban, its his channel so he can do whatever he wants. But I’m just saying given that childish behavior of his, it is definitely a possibility that he would go all the way to copyright strike someone. Just sayin Haha

[@sexyhistory4026]

I would deny that Hikaru's streams are entertaining. They are not entertaining. They are not. They are not entertaining, okay guys? Not that entertaining. Guys, I literally don't care, but they're not entertaining at all. They are not entertaining. They are not entertaining. They are just not that entertaining.

[@roflol100]

@@sexyhistory4026 watching him draw arrows all over board that even him dosent know what they do is entrtaining to some i guess

[@manictiger]

​@@roflol100 With a 3200 ELO in bullet chess and god knows how many hours of puzzle rush practice... Yes, it's entertaining. You get to see how someone with that rating thinks and plays. Very few people want to watch a 3 hour game of people staring at a board. Is bullet chess a bit "junk food"? Sure. But, it's better than having no one watch Chess. Admittedly, I don't know much about this drama. I guess I'll wait for someone to break it down nice and simple. I have to tend to the garden and don't have 24 minutes to watch this vid.

[@roflol100]

@@manictiger there are far better teachers than Hikaru out there. He might be good player but he isnt good teacher

[@manictiger]

@@roflol100 I think he's alright. Ben Finegold was the first guy I learned from. He blew my mind and broke Chess strategy down so simply that anyone with a functioning brainstem could learn it. But, I think Hikaru is great for tactics.

[@bigbertha8]

Just getting back into chess and I had no idea there was so much drama. Sure makes things interesting. Damn it I don't want to get sucked into this rabbit hole but I think I'm gonna. First time seeing this channel BTW.

[@doctorbea]

Hikaru is the poster child of a whiney baby. Chessbae is evil. I think that sums it up.

[@Dieblauesau]

I got a question. Who is Chessbae?

[@doctorbea]

@@Dieblauesau her true identity is generally unknown. She buys her influence from the safety of her dark and seedy lair.

[@erlindaalba1682]

@@doctorbea lol. I just read Danya's google doc about it and i agree with you

[@vaibhav3266]

Thanks for putting it out 🙏

[@dimsumyum8099]

Always felt like there was something off about hikaru

[@pureenlightmen]

Too proud

[@carlosjavierpalacios6194]

I never fully buy the "new Hikaru funny facade" About time he snaps back to be the biggest a**hole in the scene

[@johngrey1074]

Why is chessbae so heavily involved in the chess world? She’s literally just a nobody, some random internet drama queen. Why does anyone let her control chess-related affairs?

[@chiko4536]

She threw around enough money to make people feel indebted to her

[@ABPerlov]

History repeats itself: Emanuel Lasker became notorious for demanding high fees for playing matches and tournaments, and he argued that players should own the copyright in their games rather than let publishers get all the profits. These demands initially angered editors and other players, but helped to pave the way for the rise of full-time chess professionals who earn most of their living from playing, writing and teaching. Copyright in chess games had been contentious at least as far back as the mid-1840s, and Steinitz and Lasker vigorously asserted that players should own the copyright and wrote copyright clauses into their match contracts.

[@Scott-uz1cd]

chessbae is the definition of a jobsworth

[@MrHAR1B0]

Chessbae probably holds a childish grudge about being unmodded from ChessBrah, and is doing some petty revenge behind the scenes.

[@zoklev]

I don't think mod rights on a twitch channel is enough for even the pettiest to care abt, and as Eric said, it was better for it to be that way and I think Chessbae could understand that (it wasn't an attack from Eric)

[@nicholastirella9322]

He looks like he would be saving superhero’s in a super hero hospital

[@mishraji_05]

I am signing a petition to change your channel name from creativenoob to NDTV Chess 😂

[@vaibhav3266]

lol, jo bikta hai market mein usko bechna padta hai kabhi kabhi :P I think noob knows this trick

[@mishraji_05]

@@vaibhav3266 customer is king 👑😂, noob jaan gya hai lgta

[@NikolaS2905]

Can anyone explain what is going on? i watched multiple videos but i cannot quite undertand what happened with Hikaru and other player?

[@thedocak7532]

because chessbrah didnt accept a draw. now hikaru gets cancelled and it's all falling apart. i think there will be a chess boxing match at some point and all will be well.

[@NikolaS2905]

@@thedocak7532 yeah its copyright issues... thanks

[@thedocak7532]

@@arcticsound7341 he offered a draw tho. i say instead of whining just have a chess boxing match.

[@alex2005z]

@@thedocak7532 that would be fun to watch, ngl

[@acrobertson7865]

Their image management is insane. The twitch/Queens gambit/online lockdown boom in the last year has brought in so many new fans and all of them believe Hikaru is the nicest person in chess when everyone that has followed chess for even knows he's the nastiest, most arrogant player that's played at the top level in the last 20 years. Maybe ever.

[@aj2563]

Damn I had no idea tbh. Wasn’t his biggest fan but had no clue about his rep

[@acrobertson7865]

@@aj2563 I defended him a few months ago assuming he'd changed now he was only focused on streaming and bullet chess. Feel like a fool for being sucked in by it.

[@dethkid7]

no matter what happens, MangoNation got Chessbrah's back

[@Warcheiftan]

whos that

[@f.sbikerace3921]

True “big banana emote”

[@ofthepeaceful]

@@Warcheiftan Mang0 is a pro ssbm player, considered the one of the (if not the) best, and a popular streamer. His fans are part of the mangonation. A few months back several smash streamers got into chess, including mango. That's the connection

[@MikeyCyan]

@@ofthepeaceful Zain is better

[@kylesmith7413]

I've long since stopped watching Hikaru for different reasons but I am going to try to give as neutral as an approach to this as possible. From what I have read I believe that it might be TSM striking the videos. If it is not tsm and it is indeed Hikaru and/or chessbae then I think they are acting rather childish and hurting the community; which is seemingly against what Hikaru has preached in the past. However, Hikaru owes the community a transparent statement.

[@ferlou2373]

It's chessbaeh

[@arthur1596]

People in the top are serious people, They worked hard until They got into the top pushing Themselves into insanity, not generalizing but only a few of them stay sane, and some in the middle. This was just the surface of toxicity in Chess, a good player would not bring that toxicity outside the game. To cite some things about toxicity, in case people are naïve enough to believe one side of another: * Game itself is a war game, it does not automatically make it toxic but it conditions the atmosphere for toxicity to settle in. i.e The game is about beating more opponents to get the highest points in a tournament. * There is already discrimination called chess elitism. It does not need an explanation nor an example, it commonly lingers around competitive environments. * The Game can be about the guy who work harder, totally not about being the nicer guy. "Why become nice when you could just work and work, get into the top, get the fame, money, and your dream" Concluding to what I have been talking about, the game itself can exhibit toxicity and therefore must be treated accordingly in order to avoid the situation to worsen. It was back then when I used to think that toxicity were being failed to notice due to it blending around ignoramuses. Some might ignore this message but this is what I have been worrying about concerning the future of Chess, if the public is not ready to accept and treat it, it might be the cause of the demise of Chess, I could imagine Chess losing sponsorship due to it being toxic, or it surviving and spreading the toxicity outside of it's environment. -A concerned chess player

[@80-80.]

Finally Naka's true colors starts to shine through. Now everything make sense.

[@factandsuspicionpodcast2727]

The discussion around this from the chess community, from Naroditsky to Finegold, bothers me somewhat. I keep hearing this notion that it's okay to use someone's work provided you don't "portray them in a bad light." Yet, how someone is portrayed isn't a factor in Fair Use. You have the right to use a limited portion of another KZbinr's (or any creator's) content, ESPECIALLY for purposes of criticism. Now, I don't know the specifics of the incident, how much or in what way the content was used. But I can say safely that it doesn't matter if Eric was portraying Hikaru in a bad light.

[@MorphysinceC.E]

maybe don't make any comment next time you don't have the full picture

[@factandsuspicionpodcast2727]

It's been two years since I left this comment, but re-reading it I was very clear that I was responding to one point in particular that I had heard repeated. Nothing I said was untrue. How someone is portrayed isn't a consideration when determining Fair Use.@@MorphysinceC.E

[@huntermccord7648]

I just don’t understand why he’s salty about his rage, but then laughs at fan memes about it hysterically. (I’m talking about hikaru)

[@azure5273]

Overcompensating. (There's also this thing called Reaction Formation)

[@NatalieDemary]

Who even is chessbae? Is she like some anonymous NM or CM with money?

[@CreativeNoob]

something like that ig

[@dulcedeleche000]

Loved when chessbase India gave a copyright strike to hikaru

[@maskedcreator4525]

Eric, the truth is on your side. Us players that can see through the BS can see what's going on here. Until I see some others come out and apologize I'll be watching chessbrah, and everyone not named hikaru.

[@kenchen704]

I’m waiting for TSM to drop Hikaru. TSM grew Hikaru’s stream tremendously, and knowing Andy how he takes these kind of things he probably won’t take it very well.

[@zoklev]

but he literally doesn't even care if TSM drops him

[@z3ro5um]

Peace. I am late, but appreciative for the chessbrah method. Take care.

[@sourandbitter3062]

And the guy is already rich AF and two faced so new players come to his stream thinking he’s nice and give him their allowance or hard earned money. Disgusting.

[@lowki3407]

eric and hambo should have gotten the fame instead of hikaru

[@arthur1596]

It's not the fame its the game.

[@lowki3407]

that makes no sense

[@GtLukero]

This is they way Hikaru has ALWAYS been. Back in 2019 he banned me from his Twitch channel FOR SAYING "HE LOOKS LIKE HE'S NOT IN THE MOOD FOR CHESS RIGHT NOW". At that point I realized I'm not dealing with a 30 year old grown up, but rather a salty child who just cant accept genuine criticism and is going to silence ANYONE who does anything against his interest.

[@TehPh1L]

all jokes aside.... the chat was very toxic and should have been modded more.... he had serious points and its not a good look for him with that chat right under him :/

[@NoNAME-qi9tq]

Jesus Eric please! Please make an opening called the Armbar opening!!

[@surfghoul]

The drama’s livened things up, I’ll say that:). For what it’s worth, though, Hikaru and his side kicks can entertain someone else. Once and done. Never could tolerate a back stabber and it would appear Hickey fits the bill:).

[@bangxingho3408]

Lol. Never knew chess has so much drama. Thought chess was just a game for intellects.

[@thesavantart8480]

It never was a game for intellects, no game is.

[@threethrushes]

Snakes and Ladders bro.

[@srikausthubhah1729]

@@threethrushes snake and ladders was intended to be a game about Morality I think

[@SecretSauce8]

@21:57 and yes, i looked up that video and it's *gold*. LOL

[@ALF8892]

I don't think it should be a copyright strike against him. For showing them in the game.

[@raylopez99]

Wait, why is this video by CreativeNoob not copyright infringement of what Eric is saying? Unreal.

[@veganwaffle]

Either everyone gets to use your content and that is okay or you do the strike. That’s just how it works sometimes which is super dumb, but even in the TV industry it works this way. It’s not the best way but it works

[@the1000master]

8:44 what did eric say that made everyone go bananas in chat?

[@wendydelisse9778]

There was a copyright case involving DramaAlert, often referred to as Keemstar, on the one side, and on the other side h3h3Productions. The case was not settled out of court, and so an actual verdict resulted from that case. The verdict of the case established some "precedence" in American law that a news story about a celebrity could, under "fair use", make use of images of that celebrity, even if the images of that celebrity might otherwise be under copyright protection. In practice though, they say that it is mostly just the wealthier KZbin channels that now have the legal right to use images of an American celebrity in a news or current events story that is about that American celebrity. They say that poorer channels faced with an arguably false copyright claim or alternatively a poorer channel that claims copyright infringement in an arguably correct manner often lose by "default judgment" after running out of money for various types of legal fees, or alternatively the poorer channel settles in a highly disadvantageous manner out of court for fear of an even more disadvantageous "default judgment" after the opposing lawyers from the wealthier KZbin channel run up the legal fees enough to run the poorer channel out of legal fee money with a default judgment unfavorable to the poorer KZbin channel happening after being run out of money. One recent example of de facto American copyright law is KZbin celebrity Lyssy Noel issuing a copyright complaint against a critique video from a kid. Another recent example of de facto copyright law is the JT channel becoming silent for more than a half year after issuing a copyright strike against the American KZbin channel DramaAlert for use of a JT thumbnail image without prior permission from JT, in a video that was about the American celebrity KZbinr LeafyIsHere who had very recently been banned by KZbin. To sum up, in contrast to the face value of American copyright law, recent experience seems to indicate that de facto American copyright law only rarely allows poor KZbin channels to successfully defend against a copyright claim against a news or current events or critique video from a wealthy KZbin channel, and that de facto American copyright law only rarely allows poor KZbin channels to successfully issue a copyright claim against a wealthy KZbin channel. When a wealthy KZbin channel in America wants to shut up a KZbin channel owned by some kid for a week after an unflattering critique video from the kid, there in practice is nothing the kid can do about being shut down for a week. When a poorer KZbin channel wants to defend its thumbnail copyright against a richer KZbin channel, in practice it would appear that the richer KZbin channel can extract money from the copyright owner by threatening to run up legal fees, unless the copyright owner agrees to an out of court settlement after which the copyright owner pays money to the copyright thief and gives permission to the copyright theft after the fact and the copyright owner does not make KZbin videos for more than half a year. They say that Hikaru is an American, and that therefore de facto American copyright law most likely applies. As such, recent de facto practice in American copyright law will most likely apply that whatever the technical merits of the case, if one KZbin channel is much wealthier than the other KZbin channel, then it is the wealthier KZbin channel that comes out the financial winner in a copyright case and the poorer KZbin channel that comes out the financial loser in the copyright case. KZbin will sometimes decide to become directly involved in a copyright case when copyright bullying by some wealthy entity seems to be especially incorrect, but such direct involvement by KZbin happens less than one percent of the time.

[@wendydelisse9778]

From an environmentalist point of view, Big Oil and Big Coal will be paying attention to such events. For example, if some kid makes a video critique of an oil company that is a little bit too effective, and the critique video uses copyright material from the fossil fuel industry, the oil company lawyers can consider simply copycatting from Lyssy Noel in order to get KZbin to remove the critique video from public view and shut down the kid's channel for a week. As another example, if some oil company wants to use someone's art work without prior permission and the copyright owner issues a KZbin copyright strike against the oil company, the oil company lawyers, knowing that there will be less than a one percent chance of KZbin deciding to get directly involved, can consider simply copycatting from DramaAlert and extract money from the copyright owner of the art work in an out of court settlement, and get after the fact permission to use the art work, and have the artist not make any public KZbin videos for more than six months. As such, as a result of de facto American copyright law, environmentalists should strongly avoid the use of copyright material, even if at face value the legal concept of "fair use" applies. Otherwise, Big Coal and Big Oil can simply copycat from what wealthy Internet celebrities are doing to various smaller KZbin channels, in order to shut down all sorts of environmentalist KZbin channels that become a little bit too effective at critiquing Big Coal and Big Oil. Carlsen, who was generally regarded as the world's top chess player last year in 2020, recently made a statement that he always believed in a free Internet. The effect of recently established de facto copyright law is that the Internet is however not free. It is possible that the current copyright squabble that involves Nakamura and another chess player will eventually evolve into a different type of match between Carlsen and Nakamura, a match involving making arguments for and against Internet freedom, as opposed to a match involving moving white and black wooden pieces on a chessboard.

[@z3ro5um]

Did anyone else notice some people use the word ‘toxic’ interchangeably with emotional? Now, Hanson seems to understand the experience of toxicity from people. Some people call being nominally upset as toxic. The toxicity GM Eric is speaking about has to do with saying one thing to your face and working behind the scenes to undermine and to downgrade (or even to degrade) you behind your back. Ali Reza, by contrast, as a young and honest individual, is know to wear his heart on his sleeve; that would not be known as toxic unless he showed himself unable to eventually accept results gracefully. This is ultra-competitive, and there is a fire inside of a competitor that does not need to be toxic.

[@Japhu]

Who tf is chessbae. Doesn’t seem to exist on google

[@Lleifr]

A chess enthusiast, mod in alot of channels, including hikaru's

[@user-ni2tp6ey6l]

From what I heard she's an evil person. She's responsible for pulling the strings behind most of the chess community as well as shunning both chessbrah and the Botez sisters from the "chess.com clique"

[@NateROCKS112]

4:11 it's most likely not fair use, so I wouldn't appeal immediately if I were Eric. (IANAL, and Eric should contact one in this case, if he wants to give Hikaru the maximum amount of pushback.)

[@NateROCKS112]

Furthermore, I'm slightly scared that Chess.com could potentially go rogue and copyright strike the channel. It's legally possible for them to do so. (The graphic designs of the chessboard are copyrightable.) However, I doubt this'll actually happen. At least, I hope. (Edit: since some Lichess piece sets, to my knowledge, are licensed under free licenses, you can stream on Lichess safely.)

[@jujubean9063]

Never cared for Chessbrah and I was a Hikaru fan. Now I still don’t care for chessbrah but I’m no longer a Hikaru fan. He’s a great chess player, but it’s hard to respect adult babies.

[@EvilSecondTwin]

*What happened between these two* ? I thought that wrestling match was just for fun but apparently, things are much worse than I thought?!

[@TheGreatslyfer]

It could be that things were already brewing between them over the years and this was the tipping point.

[@EvilSecondTwin]

@@gregsalisbury4967 I remember watching that clip. I didn't think much of it. If Hikaru got upset over that, he needs some serious psychiatric help.

[@gordonramsdale]

Hikaru taking revenge for Nagasaki strike

[@kogkita]

what about Hiroshima?

[@spicymcwrap3335]

I liked both eric and big hiki, but this drama has definitely made me turn against hiki

[@noophia]

wait. didn't chessbae was the one to blame? Hikaru recently made a statement he'll no longer work with her and wanted to resolve the issues with Eric.

[@lancemcque1459]

Link please.

[@noophia]

@@lancemcque1459 check his twitter.com/GMHikaru there's link on twitlonger with Chess Drama title

[@jaruzan]

Reading chat here disgusts me. I didn't know this many chess viewers were so protective about new players playing chess and toxic towards other streamers cause they're "dumb". Seems pretty arrogant to me. Can't you just let people be noobs at chess? they're not saying they're good.

[@Rspknlikeab0ssxd]

Dude my opinion of Hikaru as a persom was never high and it only continues to lower.

[@HealthyScratch21]

in a statement Hikaru said he's no longer working with chessbae and is going to be more involved. So just by that statement Hikaru wasn't even the one who initiated all of this drama and Chessbae was going on a power trip and wanted to save Hikky's "honor" or something. This is why you have to be careful who you mod, because they'll let that non paying position get to their head if the channel is big enough

[@TheBadApe77]

Someone explain to me in a quick way what the beef is between this dude and Hikaru

[@ankitadesai799]

Chessbae 👎, sometimes people get too much unnecessary attention which is also very undeservedly given. And that has the risk of making them "highly inflated" and "egoistic" and toxicity comes along with it. ...... So ya, i see some people not being able to maintain their esteem at an optimal level. So ya, I am very pessimistic about this situation. Someone is definetly wrong here and whoever it is, will and shall be in trouble

[@asswhole4195]

It's jot just about her getting a lot of attention, it also has to do with Chessbae94 aka Erika Malykin being anonymous for so long. Obviously she's not anonymous anymore though.

[@Smitty617]

Goes to show, you can get away with being a scumbag when you have money to buy you influence.

[@whoami3146]

Isn't that dual cam of hikaru changed from the original form so it isn't a valid copy strike???

[@RahulSharma-oq2ut]

How did she fund Aman GM title ?how does that work

[@CreativeNoob]

Based on what Eric was saying, she was the top donor on the Chessbrah channel on twitch

[@nighticeeee]

Um from what he's saying, I think the early and large sums ChessBae gave them Aman was able to fund tournent trips/focus on chess more as a job, aka get GM

[@TravelGamerKpopper]

Idk I've seen at least 10 different YT channels with 10k+ views per video on this topic from both sides so the 'drama' was good for a lot of people..

[@takyc7883]

great content in the background, and great patience from eric. clearly eric has been screwed over here

[@alharrison1038]

Nakamura is a hideous AND poorly equipped Elite GM

[@AbhishekKumar-xx7li]

my yt channel got deleted, we need a new youtube alternative

[@botteam7013]

19:08 he asks for evidence and in the preview he just mocks him lol ö