Ford F-150 Tremor VS Toyota Tundra TRD Pro - Which Truck Handles Mud, Water & Rocks Better?

[@TruckKing]

Want to watch a truck go off-road that doesn't beep like crazy? Check out my old 1985 Chevy K10 hitting some huge rocks here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pmWagoJ-fbuZnK8

[@zainabe9503]

Glad mine parking sensors got cut/damaged lol when it comes to driving backward on urban areas i gotta listen to that clank on the metal bumper before shifting forward 🤭

[@Doc1855]

I had a 78 C20 Camper Special, 81 $ 85 K10 and the last 2 were in the shop CONSTANTLY. I haven’t had a Chevy since. But I’ve always had better luck with Ford’s. Our 11 Ford 4X4 only has 35K miles and its main purpose is for working around our property and going to my fishing holes.

[@jonnyfleur81]

First impression of Ford. How many beeps can we insert into your everyday experience. I see it gets worse off road.

[@Mclarenf20]

I love that they put the trucks on the ramp and show us the underneath. I haven’t seen anyone else doing that.

[@GT-tm1ft]

Check out Savagegeese. They put everything on a lift with pretty good technical descriptions.

[@Mclarenf20]

@@GT-tm1ft oh nice. Thanks!

[@GT-tm1ft]

@@Mclarenf20 👍 They are more car focused, but do better than most with trucks. Their Raptor video is hilarious.

[@captaintf7759]

Sarah-n-Tuned also puts everything on the rack.

[@Le_Royaliste_Perlino]

Savagegeese does

[@kazijavedanwar7891]

This is what I call a forensic comparison. No one else showed the underneath conditions of the trucks before. Excellent job guys

[@TruckKing]

They are OK

[@mikeduncan7552]

finally, normal people being honest talking about trucks, no acting, no gimmicks, no talking down to viewers. thanks Canadians man !!

[@AP-jl2lv]

the constant beeping sounds like he's swearing and getting censored the whole time ahahaha

[@trailrunnah8886]

I was thinking the same thing! It's like he's in there reciting dialogue from The Sopranos or something, lol.

[@backwoodstherapy]

My wife was sitting here while I was watching and she was all "is that guy just swearing like a mofo or...?"

[@timmyadam3542]

Those sensors would be constantly turned off...

[@hector-1810]

Why aren’t they turned off?

[@m3bimmer1]

As I mentioned previously. Your tests are real world unlike some where they test off-road at speeds slower than walking pace. I appreciate that.

[@ryantuiasoa1888]

Fan of both of these. But dang, the Ford styling here looks a lot sharper inside and out. Some 35s and a small lift/level on the tremor and this whole course would be a breeze

[@hamlinhobbyist7507]

I like the Tundras exterior styling. Much more modern. Both nice trucks 👍

[@eternalthread7846]

Yeah tundra hideous and has the exhaust on the wrong side lol

[@pnwmv]

Nah Tundra looks badass. Ford looks boring

[@kathydoan782]

The Ford looks better inside and out... the tundra looks like it's trying too hard to be one of the big boys....

[@mrsandman1274]

Both look amazing in my opinion but I like the tundra just a little more

[@JohnSmith-dj5gf]

I’m a Toyota guy. Own a 2016 Avalon and a 1980 FJ40. I waited for forever like everyone else for the Tundra reveal. Really wanted to buy one but it turned out to be a dud. I spent $69K on a new F350 Tremor instead of a TRD Pro. I’m happy because for the same money the F350 Tremor has three times the payload and twice the towing capability of the new Tundra and has 35in tires standard.

[@sammiemakki9339]

The 11,000lbs of tow capability of the tundra is not enough? What the heck you looking to tow with the 22,000lbs? You shouldn’t be looking for a Tundra in the first place

[@rdr9519]

Counting on a potentially faulty twin turbo hybrid camry engine to tow over 10k in the long run? No thanks lol ​@@sammiemakki9339

[@alextasch8114]

I did 2000k miles on my Tremor 402a a few weeks back. Took it off roading on the Trinity River and also some flash floods in Lake Havasu and Joshua Tree. Also field tested it on 24 miles of off roading in the Cleveland National Forest. This truck is amazingly comfortable and confident and the Torsen front diff with the rear locker and drive modes makes a real serious difference between it and my last FX4 Platinum that I had on 35's. My only little gripe is that the small bump compliance wasn't as soft as I was expecting but I was still able to drive it 15 mph faster than my old truck when off roading. That, my friend, is a huge difference!

[@tier1detailcompany]

No doubt, you got yourself a badass truck. I'm glad to hear from ppl like you who are actually taking them off road!

[@someoneoutthere3476]

2 million miles??

[@alextasch8114]

​@@someoneoutthere3476 oops. 2k

[@4x4canadapodcast]

Great video. The ramp and specs are a great addition. Really surprised in the lack of tow hooks on the Toyota.

[@trailrunnah8886]

Yeah, that is an epic fail in my opinion. Though, it is kind of a Toyota thing. Even the 4Runner models, including the TRD Pro, don't really have good recovery hooks. They have loops that are located up under the front bumper on the radiator support, they're definitely not as beefy as something that you would find on a Jeep or like the ones on this Tremor. In my owner's manual, Toyota says that these are not recovery points, they are tie-down points. I bought some aftermarket front recovery points that are beefy and bolt to four different spots on the frame.

[@whackityschmackitydo]

I have never needed them, still wish Toyota would’ve included them. I would look to the aftermarket for engine skids with integrated recovery points…

[@CanadianProho]

What are you going to show off at the mall? No shiny red decorative hooks. 😂

[@Steve-yr5vi]

​@@trailrunnah8886 There is a reason Toyota does that; you can of course put tow hooks on however putting a tow hook on and you have a modified truck? So when you break something a dealer can say "this truck was modified beyond stock specs...." Toyota doesn't get their 2% better reliability rating by accident...What person in their right mind takes any truck without tow hooks on terrain where a wrongly placed wheel gets you stuck? No one does, and every Tundra owner with sense will put tow hooks on. But if they'd ask a good warranty lawyer, the lawyer would say go "sell the truck and buy one that has them stock".....

[@ProductReviews4you]

Toyota doesn't fail like Ford (Fix Or repair regularly) this is a reason Ford need tow hook while Toyota leave it alone.

[@shifter8207]

Please turnoff the parking sensors before driving in bumper deep water lol

[@matttheratt]

Came down here to post the same thing... SO ANNOYING!

[@Sean-oq3ox]

Took my tremor down the Scotch line hydro trail in Minden today. Very impressed with what it can do... even with stock tires. Rear locker and torsen front diff allow it to walk over all kinds of terrain.

[@kenkrafft3499]

I own a 2021 Tremor and I love it, best truck I’ve ever had. Just got back from a trip where I pulled trailers on loose rocks along a river and the truck did it all in 4H with ease.

[@briankohlsaat45]

Same. Love my 2021. It does everything I ask of it.

[@mattelieff5868]

Just bought a brand new Tremor and put a 2” level and 34s and man is this thing impressive. Tested the approach and departure fully and man it did a great job. Ford hit a home run with this truck. That trail turn assist is also a great feature and used it on a number of tight turns. Ford all day!!

[@yxngweezy]

Thank you for using that truck for its actual purpose. Where I live, this is a suburban dad flex car

[@Youtubeuser1aa]

34”?

[@MrSwooseGoose]

5.0 or 3.5 ecoboost?

[@duffffman83]

I did the same thing but with 35s. Do a 50 percent tint on windshield and 15 percent on side and back windows

[@volodymyrprosov6134]

Bro how is your truck running today? Did you do 2 inch lift in the front and in the rear correct to install 34 inch tires? Do they rub in front end on tight turns? Thanks a lot for your comment

[@drausiohermannpachecoleal1135]

Would say Tundra have no front tow hook is a shame

[@WyLEE08]

I’d give that massive red anti-sway bar on the TRD a tug.

[@JcEstrla]

They did that for the safety I think. That’s one of the reason the tundra is on top safety pick+.

[@steveinglese8627]

Wow you guys really give these a much more hard hitting test than I see most people do with the off-roading.

[@Offshore1977]

Simple fact that Tundra has no front tow hooks is a huge deal for me. Add to that the dismal approach and departure angles and I will pick not only Tremor but any other full-size any day.

[@kevinstarski1598]

Looks like the departure angles, exhaust pipes notwithstanding, are almost identical.

[@Mixwell1983]

Im sure you could add aftermarket shackles and the lower price and a locker the tundra is a better value.

[@Offshore1977]

@@Mixwell1983 even if you add one the low plastic bumper is in the way.

[@Steve-yr5vi]

And if you put tow hooks on, it's now a modified truck....

[@jrtaylor2288]

I agree with all of that and the fact that the Toyota looks like something out of a cartoon

[@smarticus6384]

Tremor with the Torsen front end all day long. No speed limits on lockers mean more capabilities and off-road performance. However, I would opt for the new V8 option.

[@rdsii64]

I am a self admitted ecoboost fanboy. With that said, on the Tremor the v8 options makes sense. The lack of an intercooler will allow Ford to offer a factory front mounted wench option on the Tremor. While I have no proof, I believe this why they backed away from no v8 on the Tremor.

[@robertlandrum8598]

For mine it will have the 5.0 with the ten speed transmission. They really work great together!!

[@brandonmcfarland5200]

The Ford F-150 Tremor Is A Must Off-Road Worthy 🇺🇸.

[@YouTubeBinging]

Built in the good ole middle eastern part of the U.S. woop woop. Where are the parts manufactured?

[@grisa12345]

I love Toyota but honestly the TRD Pro Tundra is a big let down. Tires are a joke, no tow hooks. Toyota has not been paying attention to what consumers in this segment want. I would take the Ford between these two, no question.

[@wartowne]

Sadly, Toyota stopped paying attention years ago

[@martyg55marty57]

Really like the intro montage with the spec labels on each truck for comparison.

[@quintili1]

Those remote reservoirs are just begging to be smashed by a rock on the Tundra. I couldn't deal with that beeping the whole time, that would drive me insane.

[@thegeneral1955]

That’s why I hate newer vehicles and safety features like that, so annoying.

[@socalson7492]

You can toggle them off. I don’t know why they didn’t.

[@socalson7492]

@@thegeneral1955 Wait until you’re trying to park a big truck in a skinny spot. Parking sensors are great. You can turn them off when you go off road.

[@thegeneral1955]

@@socalson7492 I have a tundra lifted on 35s and no parking sensors. Backup camera is all I need, that is one modern feature that makes life easier. Backing up to a trailer first try no effort.

[@SEMNbronco]

off road tremor is great, have over 4k miles this summer traveling the west and midwest and this truck with 402a package is a fantastic road trip vehicle

[@martyb3783]

To me it looked like the Tremor did a bit better. They are both great trucks. Great video!

[@imnotusingmyrealname4566]

Very nice how the property is being developed by you guys!

[@RaulSanchez-ko7op]

Great video! I advise to stick to the same “line” because the Tremor took a left line on the rocks and on the hydro climb but the TRD took a right line and struggled in both. The TRD did better when Dad adjusted and took the same line as the Tremor. I would have went back to the Tremor and took both right lines to see if it got stuck and had to adjust the line or it may have dominated both lines?? The obvious issues were the absent tow hooks, absent locker in 4Hi, and fully exposed exhaust on the TRD! Thanks again 👏🏽👊🏽

[@caseybowman8220]

Agree 100%, it was obvious and kinda stupid to not to point that out.

[@duggydo]

This new Tundra is so disappointing. I thought you might rip off those plastic bumper corners on the first ditch. The Ford also has front and rear tow points so that's a nice bonus.

[@jimsteinway695]

I have a 22 loaded f150 tremor. I kinda like the Toyota

[@fred993a]

How in the world would you build a tuck without tow-hooks?

[@DH-mf2lv]

Gotta love the duel exhaust on the Tremor!

[@imnotusingmyrealname4566]

I prefer classic side exhausts on trucks.

[@wint_62]

On a 6 lmao. Dumbest thing ever.

[@kirk0respite]

Dual

[@raionshishi8290]

@@imnotusingmyrealname4566 Seeing that Tundra scratch the shit out of it's exhaust meanwhile the Tremor slips through with dual exhaust tucked in nicely... yea imma have to say no to that chief

[@danielpotter4353]

Thank you for the video. We chose a 22 tremor vs TRD. I took it out yesterday in some very beautiful mountains and it climbed like a mountain goat!

[@Miiike604]

What we discovered, no recovery hook use required in the making of this video. 😁 Really enjoyed this one. Great job.

[@GarrettStrickland]

Lets also not forget that the 2023 Tremor is adding the 5.0L Coyote engine option

[@gabetristan]

Best thing I’ve ever owned

[@ItalianMetalHED]

at 4:00 the tremor went through that like butter, loved how the suspension took it all like it was nothing and kept the whole truck level. The TRD was stiff on the exit and just sloppy. I am impressed with the tremor. 12:00-14:00 the TRD just struggles to get started and gets stuck on exit....Tremor just breezed through the mudding without annoying beeping etc. The TRD again looking so stiff throughout!!! If the suspension was better maybe TRD could get traction, tuning issue? Fox shocks are great but looks like the Tremor is just overall tuned better.

[@123devinzz1]

toyota did wrong by putting that big ass stiff sway bar on it for high speed running that drastically limits its articulation. they should have done a sway bar disconnect. most guys in the tacoma offroad world like me just remove front sway bar alltogether and it makes a huge difference

[@bobdennis4801]

Couple things. The F150 I’m guessing has the Torsen front diff from the Raptor. And as far as pricing you can price a Tremor much cheaper by not getting the 402A trim level.

[@impaul41]

Tremor did away with the base trim

[@bobdennis4801]

@@impaul41 correct. That’s the 400a. You can still get the 401A.

[@joekane6725]

But don’t you lose the Torsten front end when you do away with the 402a?

[@bobdennis4801]

@@joekane6725 no. You can option it on either trim.

[@Steve-yr5vi]

Yeah but, you'll never regret getting 402A....

[@chieffan2525]

That intro was 🔥 Keep that format for comparisons 👏

[@nealafitness]

I agree, the Ford took it for sure. Love your videos guys! Keep em coming!

[@TruckKing]

Thanks 👍

[@trailrunnah8886]

Agree, I think the tremor was the clear winner here. I really like that you can use the locker even in 2WD. I also think the Ford is a much cleaner looking exterior design. If it were my money, I don't think I would choose either one of these. If I remember correctly, the Silverado ZR2 is around the same price, I would choose that one with the 6.2 L. V8.

[@scotw67]

Good points. Toyota only lets you lock the rear in 4LO on the Tundra and Tacoma. Big fail on their part IMHO.

[@Libertarian_Neighbor]

The Tremor now comes standard with the Coyote 5.0 V8. I like the simplicity and reliability of a tried and true V8 too.

[@scotw67]

@@Libertarian_Neighbor same here. I buy vehicles for the long haul, 150-200K miles at least. I’m not convinced a turbo will make it that long without major work.

[@stuffjunk5019]

@@scotw67 The hardest engine ford makes is the 2.7 ecoboost with the CGI engine block. ALL of the rest are aluminum block, even the 5.0 sadly.. If you're willing to replace the parts i bet you could easily get over 400k out of the 2.7.

[@jacobjeffs3504]

You can also get the F-150 with a v8

[@MattSchmader]

Great video! The ramp is a great addition

[@AK_Ray]

I love how, in this application, the Ford middling off-road option beats Toyotas top of the line off-road option

[@TheGodofZilla]

As an owner of the 2021 Tremor, I can't believe truly how impressive the dang truck is. Truly an amazing vehicle that Ford put a TON of thought into. Even just the special bumper that only the Tremor gets makes amazing sense for departure as the exhaust does not ever get in the way. Plus, I mean dang look at it. I will say though it's a dude magnet. Everywhere I go I get random guys asking every question possible about it lol. Oh well

[@jerryjeromehawkins1712]

​@@TheGodofZilla plus Zilla... the Tremor is just a great looking truck. The Tundra?? 🤔

[@TheGodofZilla]

@@jerryjeromehawkins1712 Ford killed it with the Tremor.

[@BC08]

Toyota can’t build a full size truck

[@redbeard5703]

I agree with all of the comments on here so far. It's just that when it comes down to vehicle longevity, reliability and resell value, the Toyota wins.

[@Teufels_hunde]

The tremor takes the cake an basically every specification on paper, surprisingly even approach and departure angles

[@ChrisParayno]

I love how these guys really use these trucks like it's their own. Love it.

[@milesb4231]

I think the rear Tremor tow hooks are smart ---- like a skid plate for your bumper

[@Sidewinderguy]

What was Toyota thinking with those cheap plastic bumpers. The tremor wins this hands down.

[@imnotusingmyrealname4566]

No two hooks 🤣 Toyota clearly omited the actually important things for off-roading and just put the stupid hybrid in it.

[@jrtaylor2288]

Exactly the tundra is a huge disappointment it looks cartoonish no tow hooks no where to put tow hooks without pulling the plastic face off of it what a disappointing truck

[@allenstuck2861]

Toyota trucks are 💩

[@ultrahighquality5657]

Better protection. Too bad all the fords i ever drove, herd about has issues.

[@III1IlIIlIllIl]

@@ultrahighquality5657 cope

[@PVo-1111]

The Tundra took a slightly different line causing it to get hung up. The Tremor would be better on rocks if you would take a full size there but the Tundra would be better on the open desert. For the price though I'd get the TRD especially with the resale and the suspension. If I had a RV trailer and go cross country camping and so on I would pick the Tremor.

[@Mclarenf20]

I really like the Tremor and I was dead set on getting a Ranger Tremor, but as I watched more of your videos and test drove different vehicles, I decided to go with a Toyota 4Runner TRD ORP. That’s right, TK. Y’all actually talked me into buying a 4Runner. The power of the media haha. Thank you for all the awesome quality content you put out.

[@skoolynugenator1802]

Nice man I ordered a 4Runner ORP with KDSS as well…back in March and I’m still waiting for it. KDSS is what’s holding it up I’m sure.

[@northerntoyota7584]

@@skoolynugenator1802 all Canadian trim trd OR (all premiums up here as well) come standard with kdss. Long waits to get them

[@trailrunnah8886]

Honestly, Steve's video of that voodoo Blue TRD Pro on the hydro line was kind of what sealed the deal for me on the 4Runner lol. I think objectively, there are a lot better vehicles than the 4Runner, but it's just better than the sum of its parts. I think it's's the fact that it hasn't been updated in so long that is charming. Watching this video, I was glad that it doesn't have all these warnings, because both of these trucks would drive me crazy with all the beeping and warnings going off. I will say though I wish the 4R had a more modern engine and transmission combo. I love the old school-ness of the vehicle, except for this. I find it really frustrating to drive at times.

[@skoolynugenator1802]

@@northerntoyota7584 it just seems like such an amazing system. I had to add it to the order.

[@skoolynugenator1802]

@@trailrunnah8886 I actually love the fact that the engine and transmission haven’t been changed. They are probably some of the most reliable in the world and I love that. And you can take them anywhere a Jeep can go.

[@Interpolation1911]

Best truck content in all of youtube!! Great job guys!! Heck, even my 22’ frontier pro4x have tow hooks… C’mon Toyota you had all the years to redesign and you missed the obviously needed tow hooks….

[@TruckKing]

Thanks 👍

[@JDGillis]

The Tremor's is a far better looking, the skid plates on the Ford protect the front much better, the fords locker options are huge off road, and the lack of tow hooks is simply unforgivable.

[@shredfest30]

"we are swimmin.. OOPs!.. yeah, that's a beauty one right there..!" Hahaha I felt that one right along with ya Pops!

[@huronv9500]

I drive a Toyota, but not putting tow hooks on the front of a TRD is total deal killer even if you can add them, its the principal to me. Also, you need to change out the wheels and tires to make it look better.

[@atg1338]

Oh bs you cant afford it 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@xCraziiPanda]

Got a subscription from me. Great comparison of these two trucks’ off-road capabilities.

[@TruckKing]

Welcome!

[@Libertarian_Neighbor]

The Tundra is a massive failure. Toyota needs to start over with a whole new team. FYI, I’m a lifelong Toyota owner who sold my 2016 4Runner in anticipation of buying the new Tundra. Toyota had to screw it up really bad to not get my money.

[@CautiousDavid]

To be honest I really like elements of it, I don’t think they need to start over, but I do think it’s going to take some years of fixes and likely a mid gen refresh to really get to where it should be. Even then, there will likely be some areas where it remains disadvantaged vs the big 3, but I feel like Toyota usually is and people have always accepted that.

[@123devinzz1]

they overhyped the hell out of it. was supposed to be a class leading engine yet it gets worse mileage and its slower than an ecoboost. the pro should have come with 35" tires aswell. they did do a great job making it easy to fit big tires. already seeing guys put 37s on these with just a leveling kit

[@jrtaylor2288]

I agree with you 100%. It's an ugly ass truck even cartoonish looking

[@stevieray1828]

The mid gen refresh will be nice

[@beexiong2995]

The new tundra was designed by americans who "listened" to what american truck buyers wanted and built this truck. Built in texas. Im sure that is where lies the problem lol

[@MuffinMan022]

Love this video, I did a lot of reviews and ended up with a 2022 Tremor in Alberta right next to the Mountains. I appreciate what you put the trucks through just to know what it is capable of. Now I need to go test mine out more but sure does pull my trailer nice so far.

[@TruckKing]

Glad it was helpful!

[@Dean403]

How big is your trailer? Looking at one of these trucks in AB myself

[@rightlanehog3151]

Stephen, A genuine Truck King fridge magnet could come in handy for testing 😉

[@dewaynemccormick8]

I have a 2021 F150 tremor and I like seeing them put to the test would like to see them compared to Ram rebel and Chevy trail boss, Enjoyed the video and looking forward to seeing more F150 tremor test.

[@setok.7134]

Thanks for the comparison Truck King. I feel like the Tremor looks more aggressive, and appeared to take the trails better.

[@hissingoose]

The no tow-hooks on an off-road edition seems pretty ridiculous. That said, I have a Toyota on order… (tacoma) in this current market of paying SRP it made the most sense and was actually about $2,500 cheaper than a similarly equipped ford ranger after everything.

[@iann.8088]

I mean it’s also a dated, underpowered and less capable truck compared to the rest of the segment.

[@iann.8088]

@Jean Toronto Raptors And you’re stuck on “legendary Toyota reliability” when if you actually maintenance a vehicle correctly, they’ll last the same length of time. Enjoy the past dude.

[@iann.8088]

@Jean Toronto Raptors Unless you’re really unlucky, it’s doubtful. Though anything made by FCA is definitely in the worst of quality so you’ve got a good point there. Aside from the looks, or having a full cab and full bed I don’t see any reason to choose the Tacoma over a Ranger, Colorado/Canyon, or even the new Frontier.

[@RealWorldCarReviews]

Really enjoyed this video. Your off-road track is absolutely awesome. We can’t get these trucks in the UK unless they are imported but I still love watching the tests on them. I think I’d go for the Ford because the Toyota interior is so outdated now. I would like to see a cutaway shot to the off-road settings being selected, as that would show us more how to use them and what is being used rather than just saying it.

[@AmericanZ28]

Clear Win for the Tremor, nice comparison 😎

[@DaRevrin]

Toyota had all these years to build this new tundra and could have hit a grand slam... yet they hit a dinker right back to the pitcher. So many errors in the build of that truck

[@xspower21]

100% the Tundra is an absolute embarrassment

[@TCinSoCal]

Truth. Wanted one before it was launched.

[@jpolimus]

Or is it that the tremor is just that good

[@xspower21]

@@jpolimus I'm not the biggest Ford fan, but the tremor is definitely a highly capable truck and shines in work mode

[@ricmagik]

That’s what happens when American designs trucks lol. Japan engineer would have been way different

[@Hamm9r21]

Great video. I love the relationship between you and your father as well

[@SingleSpeed427]

Noticed that right exhaust pipe pushed up on the 2nd obstacle in the f150. 😇

[@timsypowicz4277]

I have a 2024 Tundra TRD Pro my biggest complaint is they should have put the 3 inch lift kit and 35 inch tires on it. Other than that its a fantasic truck.

[@robertoavalosjr.2529]

On the water with the tundra he didn’t took the same line as with the tremor at the beginning, definitely that’s the reason he didn’t climbed up at first try

[@stevieray1828]

I saw the same thing. Also mud slicked tires before the offset ruts. These guys are kinda funny if you know what I mean

[@mrfunnylookinhayes9088]

I went back and watch the video and he did take the same line. The Tundra slipped to the right more as he was trying to climb. Remember they said the Ford was switching to find the rather the lockers was needed or not. Don't think the Tundra is able to do this.

[@robertoavalosjr.2529]

@@mrfunnylookinhayes9088 yes it is, watch it twice

[@kmart6380]

Only thought second pass in mud more difficult as fresh rut is created by first vehicle.

[@tag_76]

Great comparison and video. I would say that although it's basically a draw, I do think the Tundra having to go second does put it at a slight disadvantage because the Ford messes up the ruts even more and makes the terrain ever so slightly worse for the Tundra. Just my perspective.

[@carguyeyedoc]

Crazy that non-Raptor tier off road oriented trucks are now over $70k (usd). A fully loaded ‘19 raptor was like $68k…

[@apa7611]

It’s insane! Even used pos are high as hell

[@TreyDiveley]

The tremor is raptor tier...just not as popular. Its just off road based and not baja

[@thinde88]

Maybe we can turn the parking sensors off next time

[@MrChadx1]

He finally did on the last pass of the Tundra, but then it seemed like they came back on when he got to the end. Sure hope they don't reset once you turn them off. I can't imagine trail driving with that noise constantly coming back on every time you go into park or change gears. Likely they reset every time the ignition is turned off, which is bad enough.

[@skwerlee]

I’d take the tremor for sure

[@ryansheard8092]

Great video guys! Showing the specs side by side and the underside of the trucks is awesome and slightly unique. I agree that for most applications the Tremor is a bit better. As far as tires go they can easily be swapped out.

[@PeakDecline]

Tires are only easy swapped to a point. Sure you could fit slightly larger tires on the TRD Pro but then you're throwing off your speedometer, you're taking out some of the acceleration and you're potentially going to rub off-road. It's not like you can just throw on 35s without a chain reaction of drawbacks.

[@ryansheard8092]

@@PeakDecline I don't think they were saying tire size is an issue on the Tremor they were referring to the brand/tread pattern.

[@imnotusingmyrealname4566]

Wow it's been some time since I've watched one of these. The last one featured an Army Green Tundra TRD Pro. It's been a while. The specs being compared in the beginning is a great addition btw!

[@GautamAtri]

I wish there was a Tremor off road package for my Platinum Powerboost instead of just the FX4 .. Man it would look so nice.

[@Deatomizer]

The Tremor seems to do it all with a bit more ease than the blundra

[@M.H357]

Thanks for sharing, great content as usual

[@cma8165]

I like the Tremor better, but I'd like it even more with a V-8 engine.

[@cosmokramer3973]

Good video. Ford all the way here. Looks, capability, comfort and did I mention looks? Lol. The Tundra’s looks are less than desirable in my opinion. There are my two cents. Thanks guys.

[@jonathanrunciman5676]

Parking sensors should be a stand alone option on all trim levels 😅😅😅

[@jax1079]

Always love your off road comparisons. No one does it better. Awesome video, guys!

[@JavonWilliams29]

Can’t wait to see this again with the 2023 V8 Tremor!

[@02hreblue30]

why would that make any difference at low speed? it wouldn't

[@garys2157]

@@02hreblue30 Probably mean more pressing on the gas to get the revs up into the power band.

[@ebnhahn1993]

Great Video!. Keep up the good work. I agree the FORD managed its way seemingly easier than the Toyota. The Toyota had many intances of wheels spinning and nothing happening. But it is better than the OLD Toyota.

[@Mixwell1983]

I bought aa used 2017 Titan 4x4 last year for $33K with 39k miles and had sticker shock as it was a base model S trim. Didnt have a backup cam, no power mirrors and vinyl flooring.. As I sit here a year later I am glad I still have a v8, not start stop, no sensors and extra crap.. the dealer did include a backup camera and had it installed to the stock display. Seems like auto start stop is hard to avoid lately and I wonder if v8 trucks are gona be phased out eventually. I was sad to see the titan is leaving the US market in a year or so but I love mine. I was initially looking for f150 or Ram but for the same price they were 2wd, more miles and in most cases has the naturally aspirated 3.3 v6 in Ford and 3.6 in ram which i was fine with but they were still stock vehicles also or maybe a trim level up. The titan kinda fell in my lap and i love it..

[@poppyneese1811]

I was never a fan of the Titan, first the design and secondly it’s a Nissan, but I’ve got to say every single person I’ve talked to that has one absolutely love theirs, not a single negative comment, so I think it’s a awesome truck that Nissan had no ideal how to market it, was a big fan of the warrior concept vehicle, but honestly I’d have gotten a more basic package too cause it’s more affordable, my F150 STX is next to the bottom of Fords lineup and it’s been great. Hearing rumors the Titan will be gone soon and that’s sad for their faithful owners.

[@clintmiller88]

Tundra looks wayyyyyy better the wheels and tires are sick! Seemed the differences were really small and they both are capable.

[@BC08]

Tundra styling is utterly atrocious

[@ibuiltmineo1oo]

I like your reviews, and I trust your videos. The TRD pro just doesn't quite add up.

[@maurowalden-montoya4947]

The Ford all the way. The parking sensors alone on that Toyota is reason enough not to buy it but the Tremor clearly outmatched the Toyo.

[@adamharriger5193]

When you factor in how much more usability the Tremor has with it’s substantial payload superiority this is a no brainer (1600-1800lbs is common on a Tremor and not possible at all on a TRD Pro). Its just crazy that Toyota had so long to develop the new Tundra and even saw the new Ford, GM and Ram trucks before releasing theirs, yet still didnt keep up. Then to top it off they made the truck less usable due to the asinine rear bumper that makes it difficult to get in the bed, and handicapped even their most offroad version with no tow hooks. I own a 2021 Tremor, its a beast offroad and still has 1699lbs of payload capacity that allows me to haul my travel trailer with ease. I don’t think there is a better all around capable truck currently on the market.

[@raionshishi8290]

There really isn't much to compete against it, honestly i don't know how Ford managed to make this truck the way it is, it's insanely good in many applications, looks stunningly good and badass for a truck, and has an incredible track record so far in every comparison.

[@kenmasteren]

You're forgetting the most important fact, tundra stay out of the shop and on the road twice as long as Fords.

[@adamharriger5193]

@@kenmasteren That simply hasn’t been the case with the new Tundra…. I get the long term brand reputation, but this is an all new platform and it certainly hasn’t started out well for Toyota. For me the most important part is what I can actually use the truck for- unfortunately the low payload rating of the TRD Pro makes it useless for actual truck work- particularly towing. Thats normally the case for an offroad biased truck, but the Tremor defies that norm and clearly isn’t giving up much if anything to the TRD Pro in the offroad department. It’s pretty incredible that Ford can make the truck ride and handle so well offroad but somehow maintain payload that rivals other brands’ best numbers for a minimally equipped model. 17k hard miles so far in 8 months (over 6000 of which are towing)on my Tremor without a single hiccup, squeak, rattle or mechanical issue of any kind.

[@andyham6094]

@@adamharriger5193 lol bro 17,000 ain’t even broken in yet. Nothing to brag about having no issues after 17k. My 4runner has 200,000 miles on it with zero problems and barely any squeaks or any other minor or major issue. Ton of those miles have been off road and long overlanding trips up and down and across the country and back more times then I can count. But hopefully your truck can stand the rest of time with no problems! I personally like the tremor but I love the trd pro tundra as well but I prefer the previous gen tundra trd pro the best still for half ton pickups.

[@adamharriger5193]

@@andyham6094 I agree 17k miles isnt much overall, but in 8 months with nearly half of it towing 7k lbs it’s way more of a “long term” review than most auto journalists ever do. Many of which have had issues with their new Tundras. I know Toyota overall has a killer reputation for reliability, but it’s just too soon to tell with the new Tundra- and I bet Toyota isnt happy about the way it has started out. My real issue with the new Tundra is that Toyota had so much time to develop the new truck and should have at least caught up to their competition. I do love 4 runners though- if I didnt need a truck it would be on my shortlist.

[@TheJmeech]

This was a fun watch. The parking warning sounds made me laugh

[@patmason7276]

Tremor gives you what you need to do the job for a good price. Also having better options.

[@dewaynemccormick8]

I have a 2021 tremor F150 and it amazes me the amount of stuff that it will go through it would go through a lot more with a set of MT,s on it.

[@Tundra38002]

Toyota fan here, but that Ford is sweet!

[@rustlesee]

Isn’t Toyota doing subscription based things now too? Like remote start.. it’s there but you have to pay a monthly access for it?

[@fabulousoffroaddesigns5080]

I'd say the Tremor won everything. I'd also say it won because of the front Torsen diff. No mention that in 2023 the Tremor will offer a V8 option thus making it winch compatible. Both trucks need 285/75R-18 (35") tires.

[@jasonthach44]

Dude, the tires on the Tremor are aggressive enough for most people needs.

[@fabulousoffroaddesigns5080]

@@jasonthach44 very true, and for the people who want larger they will be easy to sell.

[@Libertarian_Neighbor]

Need 35’s? No. Want 35’s? Yes Sir!!!

[@michaelwdagle7410]

The 5.0 will be the standard engine in Tremor

[@fabulousoffroaddesigns5080]

@@michaelwdagle7410 that would be the common sense thought but Ford has not stated that. It hasn't stated it will be available on both the 401A and 402A packages. It could be like on XLT's where rubber floors is a $0 down grade.

[@kyleheather0416]

Them warning sounds would drive me nuts

[@gordonmacdonald8657]

I like the tremor better looks better and I'm a ford guy so I'm biased. Love to take my f250 down your course one day

[@ca7889]

Good video as usual. Thanks for highlighting the one reason not to get those parking sensors when getting an offroad vehicle.

[@thatzigdude7303]

Tremor took this for sure!

[@guillermocastorena8014]

damnnn this channel is awesome. just spent an hour watching different videos. great job

[@TruckKing]

Welcome aboard!

[@gregferris9378]

2 very capable trucks. I still would pick the F-150. The local Toyota dealer is very pushy. The Ford dealer I deal with is very laid back. That wins me over.

[@wint_62]

Not as capable as the Trailboss or AT4. Ford stinks.

[@raionshishi8290]

@@wint_62 LMAO this guy, why don't you tell us more about these over classed trucks you are using in this comparison

[@nealafitness]

I've heard that alot from people, it's the same here in Vegas where I live. The Ford dealership is way nicer to work with that I go to.

[@marksallows113]

Have loaded 402A Tremor in antimatter blue sitting in a lot at Dearborn waiting on a chip. Can’t wait

[@ripfletching]

Love this Ford

[@damiangutierrez9103]

Ford now offers the Coyote V8 on the Tremer as a standard engine option. And speaking about wolves the F-150 in Mexico is actually called the Ford Lobo (Wolf in Spanish) well only the Lariat trim model and up & from the Xlt going down are still named F-150.

[@rondail5675]

Going to pick the Ford because it can use lockers in 4-Hi. I need it for driving in snow and ice. Steve, do both trucks have 5yr/60k warranty?

[@LacDole]

Geez dad, what's with all the swearing! So much beeping to cover it! Ha ha ha 🤪