Chevy Truck EVAP Leak: Follow Up

[@SouthMainAuto]

Ok, here we go haha. No, the air compressor is not blowing out water however I am blowing water and mud off from the tank making it look like water out of the hose I guess.... and yes I spray it with fluid film AFTER I get the tank in place so I don't get it all over my hands putting the tank in. Trust me though, this truck will rot in half before it needs another unit 😉

[@michaelblacktree]

I remember an old episode where someone claimed water from the compressor ruined their tires. LOL 😎

[@jdjd962]

Thank you very much so very much I'm feeling like I got tinnitus with this napa fuel pump...

[@joegutoskey8411]

....and blowing off the soapy water you sprayed in the prior video.

[@SouthMainAuto]

@@jdjd962 It was an OEM pump haha

[@MRrwmac]

Thanks for the follow up!

[@neonsigns6721]

Eric is like a surgeon, with the assistant I'm waiting for him to say "scalpel". What an awesome guy thanks for your content and making these videos for everyone.

[@chrissmithz314]

Too funny, I was thinking the exact same thing 😂

[@Rock-fx5wi]

@@chrissmithz314 Same here!

[@arthouston7361]

LOL. Most of us "surgeons" never had an assistant.

[@Jon-rh2qc]

Instead of “scalpel” Dr. O says “Brake clean”

[@rickbaker4571]

You have him confused with Dr. O... he died years ago. LOL!!!! :)

[@jeffsmith2070]

This week, for the first time in my life, I purchased my first cans of Brakleen while servicing my tractor! It works really well but I am disappointed that it will not make that sound it makes for you, I went through a whole can trying to make that noise 😂!

[@thomash1923]

It’s all in the wrist.

[@jacksonbennett6151]

Make sure you shake it good, 2 mins at least or until you hear the marble, Eric does this to all his cans before coffee in the morning. (That’s when he naturally shakes the most)

[@bluegrallis]

I think I've heard that sound on Taryl Fixes All videos 😎 I believe it only happens when you use the "GOOD stuff" with trichloroethylene in it.

[@billmalec]

I live with that stuff. I don't spray it like Eric does. It costs too much and lasts way too short a time. He used about a half a can right there at about $7 per can.

[@bobhudson6659]

Try tilting head to the left, tongue to the right and squinting the eyes. Does it for me when I am watching Eric's and Rainman's videos. Retired mechanic in Land Down Under.

[@jriggs285]

These two videos brought back some raw memories. I took my wife's Honda to the dealership for the infamous fuel pump recall even though it had been running perfectly for four+ years. After a long delay for part, they changed the fuel pump. A week later, the dash showed "Tighten Fuel Cap". Inspected the cap and found everything perfect (11K miles on the car). I re-tightened the cap and the message persisted. Then, I remembered the fuel pump replacement. I took the car back to the dealer. After a week, they declared the message cleared and there was no longer a problem. Happily, the wife filled the tank. That night a strong gasoline odor filled the garage and the house. Investigation revealed a gasoline puddle on the garage floor directly under the fuel tank. I parked the car outside, and the next morning, I found another puddle on the driveway. Removed the rear seat and access panel to find the top of the fuel tank wet with gasoline. Inspection revealed only three of seven locking ring tabs engaged. Discussed with the service rep who wanted to send someone out to retrieve the car, but the car was unsafe to drive (ironic considering that the original repair was a "safety recall"). You had two opportunities to get this right, and you whiffed. I fixed it myself reusing the o-ring, fuel pump and lock ring. You think I'll bring this car back to a dealer for the next recall/problem?...Not bloody likely.

[@thankswillie]

shamefully descusting

[@t5ruxlee210]

@@thankswillie I got a very similar missive years ago from a rival "auto assembler" for a recall very similar to that of JRiggs. My suspicious nature's first move led me to check the internet re how many early compliers were describing "their post repair quality of life". Needless to say ...

[@markgentry6688]

My new 08 odyssey after the second oil change I noticed oil on the garage floor because the dealership 65 miles away called and left a message that I needed a new front tire because they couldn't repair it. Being a mechanic I used my two floor Jack's to find which front tire had a problem. It happen to be the right front, a nail, repaired it with a plug but I noticed oil on the floor. Oil dripping off of frame below the oil filter and thought problems solved. I came home for lunch momma and van were at work but more oil on the floor. I jacked the van back up after work and I found oil seeping around drain plug. Got a wrench and gave it a 1/4 turn. It was only finger tight. That was the last time the dealership changed my oil. That's why I quit working for the General. Dealerships suck

[@domd9876]

One thing watching your channel has done for me is really make me appreciate living in Arizona haha. Working on 15+ year old cars with barely any rust and the parts come off so easily vs. the cars on this channel.

[@dennisharvey4499]

Thanks for doing the follow up Eric so we can actually see where it failed. Seeing a professional do their job, and what tools they need, makes it so much easier for the DIY guy.

[@cindywelch9919]

Hello 😊

[@carlosnavarro921]

That brake clean intro never gets old.

[@jimharmon3404]

Another job well done! A shout out to Josh for providing Eric with a gloved helping hand! It was satisfying to see the master tutoring his apprentice. Josh is one lucky fellow to work there.

[@abw121]

It’s snowing here at 5am, cup of coffee and the sounds of compressor and air hammer coming from a SMA video…..Just what my wife wanted to hear. Tips and clues from another rust belt wrench. I have found applying some brake silicone grease to the bottom of the new retainer ring and top of sending unit makes the ring slide around like butter. No need for heavy impacts. Sometimes just using hand strength and brass drift. As always thank you for the Morning wake up call. And keep up the videos. Everyone down here at the fillin station says HAY!

[@brianm9007]

Good tip! Thanks for sharing!

[@markchidester6239]

Just remember, while having coffee while watching, it must be in a SMA cup!

[@ordinaryjoe2247]

Top notch, Mr. O! Though, at this point, I'm not expecting anything less. 👍

[@daverichards190]

Fortunately I do not live in the rust belt, it really amazes me how much damage rust build up causes. I would have never guessed. Thank you for showing me the light and making me think outside of the box when diagnosing.

[@mikebuffing727]

Rust jacking is incredibly powerful

[@johnnyhag675]

I built thousands of those over the years while at AC/ Delphi. Flint, Michigan. The whole place is gone now. Thanks Eric.

[@calholli]

Yeah, those mexicans don't need to get paid $23 per hour like you were making.

[@larryadelberg6676]

These videos just reinforce things for me, it's really nice to live in the South. As folks down here like to say "Bless your heart" for living up there. 😎

[@jeremyt7722]

I would love to see RainmanRay go work with Eric for a week lol. Love his videos too.

[@ApexHotShot]

Kudos to Eric and Josh. Their third fuel tank drop out of a Chevy in one week to fix pump issues. We all now know why the first 2 garages that looked at this EVAP leak said they could not find it (see Part 1 for ref). Those shops did not want to do the hard, dirty work needed to fix a customer’s problem. This is an example of what makes SMA the gold standard.

[@zx8401ztv]

I like the anti spark brass drift. Simple and no fancy crap to fail.

[@masterofnone7846]

I can watch this GUY all day!! He's amazing.

[@DIYDaveOK]

Thanks for bringing us along for the extra detail, great as always, Eric!

[@johnnyo3fan]

So nice of Thing to stop by and give you a "hand".

[@davemcddd]

Great video! But I'm jealous that this tank was nearly empty when you had to change the sending unit. I've never been that lucky.

[@jonminer9891]

Hi, Mr. O. Fixing a fuel tank is like doing a root canal. The job is simple but doing it brings on the pain. Thanks for sharing! Stay healthy!

[@trotva]

I been watching you for a few years. The sound when the Brake Clean comes out still makes me laugh. Good job, Mr.O

[@spudth]

Rainman ray stole it. He also does an occasional "reach around". Guess it's an Homage.

[@charlesforte6473]

Nice Work !!! I really miss the old school "mechanical" pumps...easy access,two bolts, a fuel line and 30 minutes for $12.99 @ Western Auto (part only) maybe $20 labor on a basic 6 or 8 cyl....lol...damn I'm old !!! 🤔

[@davidzelkowski9948]

I love how you describe the shortcomings of the design. You are the man!!!

[@AKJeeper]

I did a sending unit replacement on an old 80's Dodge W250 not too long ago. I fully expected the lock ring to be rotten, but was pleasantly surprised that someone (or the factory) packed the whole top of the unit with grease! After I wiped off all the grease, everything underneath was pristine. Wish I would have gotten pictures and videos of it. Too bad the lock rings on these GM trucks aren't greased up like that, could save a lot of headaches.

[@erik_dk842]

Since they only change the basic design of these trucks once every three decades, you'd think that the people in the rust belt would smarten up and apply some Fluid Film to the known worst problem areas, BEFORE they rust out. But they seam to have a fatalistic mindset that rust is inevitable, so delaying the decay for five or ten years is not worth it.

[@robertgitzen8227]

Fully appreciate the obligatory brake clean visual!

[@scottyparker2534]

Thank you for the update Eric I love watching your videos I try to catch everyone you are an ace number one mechanic and a Honest-1 you are appreciated

[@jorgefernandez-mv8hu]

Thanks for showing us the follow up on this. To think, other shops could not find this. Wow.

[@mikechiodetti4482]

Good one Mr. O! Patience is the word when repairing these old tanks. When no one else could, SMA found the problem and repaired it.

[@plankton199]

Thanks for part two. Whether they are 9 minutes long or an hour or more I always watch your videos completely. There are very few content creators on YT that can be interesting for more than a few minutes. Keep em coming!

[@ronwatson4902]

I had a 78 Ford truck that seeped fuel out the top when it was fullish. Fun job! Thanks Eric!

[@markroper9269]

I don't think there is anyone watching this that would have a problem with you fixing their vehicle!!! You are like a large ball peen hammer surgeon! Have a great week!!

[@kenk3102]

...nice job Eric....good to see there are still some mechanics that don't mind getting their hands dirty....keep the videos coming... 🙂

[@christopherdherman1518]

So cool 😎 you and Josh work so well together.

[@orchids3332]

Good morning and greetings from Syracuse!

[@kenjacques1105]

Had this exact problem with the wife's 2006 Jeep Liberty. Dealer said Libertys and Neons were noted for it...... Welcome to the PRNY.. Great video.

[@jeffreylord8172]

Mate , you have a lot of water in your air system , by the looks , love your videos,

[@jeffbastian561]

I’ve watched several of your videos now and just wanted to say Keep up the great work..! I think anyone thinking about joining your profession, should have to watch your video’s to learn proper diagnostic procedure’s and work ethic !! Keep it up 👍and take care

[@darylmorgan9887]

Thanks for the follow up Eric. The rust jobs that you have to do daily is incredible and for the people that don,t believe in what you say and you have to justify what you say and do , well up them.

[@thomask4836]

Mr. O, and Mr. Josh, your attention to meticulous detail blows me away! I doubt that a molecule of contaminant got into that tank from the pump changeout.

[@richdelgatto2522]

With all the late model Chevy truck videos, the SMA channel, is an ad for Ford trucks.

[@davidrobins4025]

My 2013 Dodge Charger had the EVAP canister replaced under warranty when it was about 5 years old. I got a recall notice and it was done under warranty - thankfully. Good to see in your video what it was they were talking about.

[@ellesmerewildwood4858]

In all the many years I've been repairing and replacing tank senders, it's still a mystery to me why almost every car, modern or classic, has the tank sender built into a depression in the tank instead of just being directly on top on a flat surface. In this case the flange ring would probably have deteriorated anyway in the PRNY environment but that degradation is exacerbated by it being inside that depression where water, salt and crap accumulates.

[@ice44567]

I believe it's just for packaging reasons. In order to have space for the lines coming out of the unit, you have to have it in a depression on the top or on the side, since it gets wedged as close as possible to existing sheet metal to take up as little space as possible. There's also consideration for making the fuel pump basket at the lowest point of the tank, and making room for driveline components or suspension components that need to travel in close proximity. I'm not saying it couldn't be done better, but that's what makes sense to me. It's a lot easier to design the tank around everything else than the inverse.

[@papaowl13803]

On my son-in-laws 2009 Ford Police Interceptor. The sending unit was on the front side of the tank. Was a 20 min job to remove. No tank removal necessary. Like this Idea. His 2006 Mercury Marques has the same setup. Some body was thinking.

[@michaelblacktree]

I think the depression adds structural strength to the tank. But it would be just as easy to design it with the depression inverted. After all, this is a truck. There's plenty of room back there.

[@davidzelkowski9948]

The old Dodge Neons came in from the side near the bottom of the tank. No build up of crud but no metal retainer either to fail.

[@Boilerking76123]

Frogs have to live somewhere

[@williamhig75]

Whats up brutha first off I just want to start off by saying BADA$$ channel! 💪😎🤘Secondly this is the only channel I've come across that is very informative and detailed. You have inspired me to do a lot more research on diagrams before tackling an electrical issue. Please don't lose sight of that! That's what make your channel stand out. Detail in everything is key! People will watch 25-45 mins. Even in 2 parts just keep being UNIQUE MY MENTOR! A FRIEND FROM AFAR FROM EL PASO, TX THANK TY....

[@daviddelle774]

I recently did the pump in my wife's Saturn Ion. The basket was actually larger in diameter than the I.D. of the hole in the tank! It was a fun job getting that out of there.

[@BABA-ws5eo]

Since I only saw Josh's hands in the video, I thought it was Chris Fix for a moment! Thanks for another great video!!

[@tomoakhill8825]

I have Eric O "trust issues". I trust Eric implicitly. I have been watching SMA videos for years now. It is not that he always diagnoses the problem (for why should he post his failures?), but rather it is his running commentary, the internal structure of which is utter proof that he is a Grand Master of his trade. This is obvious to those competent to judge, by native talent coupled with experience.

[@rickwhepley3377]

Of course, back in the day it was all metal tanks and you were not concerned with EVAP leaks, just dripping gasoline. For some the leak was at the top and you were limited to a half a tank at the pump and life would go on.

[@benbauer1257]

The evap leak is RARELY the tank itself, it’s almost always the metal sender.

[@davebarron5939]

Yep, this was 1 of 2 failures on the wife's 04 Tahoe, pulled the tank, changed out the entire basket (OEM GM) and works perfectly now. Gotta say, I love the plastic lines and quick disconnects,, I am in the frozen wasteland of MI. and on a quiet clear night you can hear the cars rusting.

[@robmurray33]

You and Rainman with dramatic music for the brake clean... I love it!

[@idothings6685]

Eric, I think it would be really cool on some of these repairs like ones where they were told it was one thing and would be thousands of dollars and you find out it's a $20 part (thinking about the GM ground wire video) if you recorded the customer when you tell them you fixed it for $20 part. Would be awesome reactions, just an idea!!

[@ChrisVargasrpht2000chris]

Thanks for the follow-up on the gas tank issue.

[@brianmeek5236]

Just did my 98 suburban yesterday, glad to see they finally have different connections for the gas line

[@kpdvw]

Another good and professional repair job, Thank you Eric O. ......

[@TheWwong]

I like the way Josh hands the "rocket surgeon" tools like a surgery assistant should.

[@robpeabo509]

I love you trust me & trust issues comments Eric, they always bring a smile to my face.

[@jatco84]

Great follow up on replacing the fuel pump ..kinda reminds me of my '88 Ranger. Also great to see some assistant hands in the vid to assist in your re&Re....Good job..to both of you...!!

[@paulstan9828]

Just like a surgeon in an operating room! 😁👍

[@brentowen9480]

And to replace a fuel pump when the tank is nearly empty is a good bonus for the shop. I don't think fuel pumps ever die unless the tank is nearly full. Or if the customer has an EVAP code they generally drop the vehicle off nearly empty as well.

[@erik_dk842]

Nice of the customer to come with real low fuel level.

[@pedroequis9396]

So glad you did this... I've been chasing this type of problem on a Park Avenue.

[@peetky8645]

just found a rust hole in my 1999 PA rear subframe...contemplating weld repair vs. junkyard replacement.

[@toddskoien3912]

I sure wish I lived closer. Drive from WI just won't work. You do great work!!!!! Keep the videos coming!!!!

[@stonesauer5781]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but if this is Josh's 3rd one of the week, you would expect him to have the extra necessary tools ready for the job...Lol Just joshing w/ ya !!! Love an early morning SMA follow up !

[@dennisanderson9136]

I was impressed that Josh was handing the next tool(s) to Eric before Eric asked for a tool. 😁

[@JoseSilveira-newhandleforYT]

Nice of you to show the crack in the sender unit.

[@freecycling6687]

Eric, I've learned a ton of stuff from your videos, enough to trust myself with finally doing the brakes myself on my two cars. If you ever felt like a change of pace, how about doing a few videos on which brands /models are worth buying and which to stay away from. It was your mentioning of the "crappy GM design" of the fuel tank that prompted me to ask this!

[@kenpecora7526]

Don't try to turn him into Scotty.

[@freecycling6687]

@@kenpecora7526 I don't watch that guy.

[@peetky8645]

anything new and american is crap

[@christopherzatalokin8652]

I have to say that it is amazing that you were even able to disconnect the fuel lines to be able to drop the tank. Those silverado fuel line connections are terrible.

[@tacocin]

Hopefully the design engineers see this! On second thought ... the engineers probably know this already but the bean counters saved 2 cents by this design. Planned obsolescence.

[@mattbrown5511]

If the engineers had to spend 2 years turning wrenches, cars would be so much better. Thank you for showing this mistake of design Eric. Your work was great as always.

[@erik_dk842]

The bean counters are the problem.

[@robertguy23]

i've gotten a dead aftermarket pump once and a few that had incorrect/bad fuel tank pressure sensors and fuel gauge level readings. Also had a tab of one of the pumps nearly get cut in half just from putting fuel ring on. The plastic on some of those are so thin compared to the gm ones. Also worth noting, if you have a fuel capless gm truck 14-18 and you work in a dusty super dirty environment, look into getting a cap or use a bearing buddy that'll fit over it, dirt will eventually infiltrate and take out your fuel pump.

[@michaelstrafello7346]

I'm glad to see I'm not the only one that has at least one of those locking clipped break

[@kimroek]

Super thanks for your great content, keep up the Good work! Greetings from Sweden

[@SouthMainAuto]

Thanks for watching!

[@johnds6621]

Thanks Eric. I'm going to have to maybe do that type job soon so it's good to know what I'm up against. I'll keep in mind OEM sending unit only.

[@johndesaavedra1040]

Suggestion for future content: I have been struggling to diagnose a keyless entry issue, unable to enter programming mode on a 2006 Highlander. I see this issue posted across brands without resolution, either by DIY or dealerships. This would be an interesting diagnosis. The most common suggestion is to take it to a dealer, which is a non-starter.

[@Tomsfoolery.]

I've pulled tanks to replace dead pumps and found zip ties through the locks on the lines and they held well. Michigan is quite rusty as well, but not as bad as your area.

[@mph5896]

I have been known to use a zip tie or two. Problem is if you break a lock or connector, you are out of luck for days and days waiting on a new one.

[@davidevans8826]

You and Josh rock Rust doesn’t stand a chance , you’re like rust avengers….. Without the capes, great video , in Alberta Canada it’s just not like that … I think you’ve learned the most from your channel of all the ones I watched excellent work men!🇨🇦🇨🇦🏎🏎🏎🏎

[@slypig24]

I have seen some good home made tools to turn that locking ring, with long handles for extra leverage. The one I saw had adjustable fingers to fit multi sized/make locking ring.

[@NOELTM]

Good to see Josh making a cameo appearance. 🙂

[@tousleytim]

why do we see only Josh's hands on TV?

[@jimclifford1241]

Awesome. Thanks for the follow-up. Glad the customer gave the thumbs-up.

[@Paul1958R]

Eric, Thank you for this - great job! Paul (in MA)

[@kakeetoalex9924]

Picks are arguably the most useful tools in a garage setting..

[@ralphwatten2426]

I did a fuel pump on an '04 Chev PU with a plastic tank and I was amazed at how little crap was in the tank. It wasn't leaking but the fuel pump failed. I ended up taking it back out a year later and replacing the fuel inlet pipe, it was leaking. I made a paint can smoker with baby oil to find the leak. The smoker worked perfect to find the leak.

[@lju3428]

would you coat the new lock ring with fluid film before re-installing the tank? just wondering. Best repair shop channel on youtube

[@danielgeng2306]

So nice to see Josh on a video, or at least his hands and foot ! Lol nice work gentleman!

[@SimpleLife1971]

Don't forget the Fluid Film! I swear by that stuff!

[@dr.nigelcool3771]

I replaced the sending unit on my first car, 1978 Ford LTD, because fuel gauge was constantly showing a full tank. Did not have to remove the tank on that one, thank God, but it was a good thing I was a scrawny and flexible teenager back then.

[@frankvanleeuwen2943]

The last one i have done was on my Seat Toledo....but you do not have to take the tank out...there is a hole under the back seat.... Great video sir...

[@erik_dk842]

And it's all plastic and screwed down like the lid on a gas canister. No rust problems there.

[@rudolfbenner4802]

Pretty handy having an assistant.

[@stevec5657]

Cool diagnosis and fix. I was waiting for you to hit the area with some Fluid Film, but not even sure that would make much of a difference. Thanks for taking the time to make these videos.

[@flagmichael]

He sprayed it after it was reinstalled (Pinned comment an hour after you wrote this.)

[@erik_dk842]

Of course it makes a great difference. Why the h*** do people in The Rust Belt don't put Fluid Film on their cars and trucks before they get this rusty?

[@lexustech48]

I cant even imagine anymore buying a car or truck and KNOWING it was going to be a rusted and completely worthless vehicle in 10 years... God bless you guys back east.

[@ThePoxun]

The hand of Josh!

[@soxplayer3907]

I would definitely trust you with all my cars issues..

[@gregeconomeier1476]

I really appreciate SMA videos. I learn a lot, like what/where is Avoca. On another note, I suggest you ignore the "non believers" and negative comments. They don't deserve your time or attention.

[@WilliamMulligan]

Josh is sure looking cool these days

[@FunkRanch]

Trust you 120%...Been watching you long enough now to know you don't bull%^&* around.

[@paulferrara9079]

Enjoyed the Rainman Ray homage too.

[@michaelgarnett1196]

Eric, you don’t have to keep saying trust me I know I trust you 100% I have no trust issues. Thanks for all your videos. I have learned a lot from you and still have a lot to learn. Oh my backyard mechanic.

[@buffystclair9042]

Southern Ontario is a “ salt belt “ as well. For that matter , one of the biggest salt mines is near me in Goderich , Ontario ( just saying) . Anyway, I have never seen those fuel pumps crack like that and I’ve had my share of changing pumps. Lots of rusty lock rings. Even tho I’m retired now I still tinker some. This is a good one to keep in the attic under the snow, lol.

[@TurboPonies]

One cannot underestimate the experience.

[@rogerchevelle8543]

Great follow up Eric O

[@1967250s]

Looks like a good spot ( the locking ring ) to use some fluid film, or some such.

[@jimpantherdrivervickers5439]

Just replaced my pump about 3 weeks ago ( 08 Express ), pump went out 2 days after I filled up so 25 gallons left. The retaining ring though was stainless...never seen that before...maybe the assembler at GM was in a good mood.

[@machintelligence]

Murphy must have been sleeping on the job.

[@johnlenoir1023]

Dang you would think that they would figure out something better than that system up in that rust belt either way love the video nice job

[@mc2whls]

@ John Lenoir "They" have no intentions of making a product that LASTS.