What Will Make BJJ Matches More Exciting to Watch?

[@ericlitke5747]

Just like in wrestling, refs have to be more aggressive on the stalling calls.

[@Samson789]

The only way

[@Mark-k9t4z]

My suggestion from wrestling would be points for escapes from bottom, 1 point for reguarding and 2 for reversing maybe. Make hanging out in top risky. At present reguarding from side control is almost negative because you just offer your opponent a chance to pass again.

[@AndersRosendalBJJ]

And keep them on the mat.

[@kylecoombs1087]

The quintet team style was extremely satisfying to watch. Team superfight with strategy is interesting. No time limit sub only would be interesting too. You could medal or keep track of fastest sub times in weight classes similar to powerlifting and Wilks scores. Hopefully that would be enough that nobody would stall out but but sandbagging would be a problem.

[@GrappleHeavy93]

Make guard pulling count as a takedown for the guy on top; whoever lands on top first regardless of how it happens gets 2 pts for a takedown. Also any time top and bottom switch should be 2 pts for reversal and escaping from bottom to standing should be 1 pt for an escape. Ref's also need to be aggressive with stalling calls.

[@chrishanl3y]

I will counter that with if I pull guard every time the top person backs out to standing or disengages from a leg entry I get a point. this is jiu-jitsu not wrestling I have already conceded enough by letting you have top position.

[@pauliusvaleikis9529]

Id watch that. Maybe some incentive to push and engage.

[@sodapopscout]

That's not jiu-jitsu, dipshit. Whoever is inside a closed guard is technically on bottom. There's a lot of positions like this where it's not clear cut. Especially with legs. I'm sorry your coach sucks & hasn't explained this to you.

[@MrCmon113]

Not even putting the other guy on the ground is a "takedown" without control. But I agree that there should be *some* points. Also afaik guard pulling without connection is already penalized in many tournaments.

[@MrCmon113]

​@@chrishanl3yWhat if the other guy just wants to get away, can grab a weapon, etc? Imo holding the other person there is a huge part of guard, not just keeping yourself safe. Bjj is at its base play fighting, it's part of fighting and the points symbolize stuff that would be good in a fight. A guard pull without connection should cost at least some points, bcs you limit your own mobility.

[@TC_Personal]

Best of 3 rounds wins the match, 2:00 rounds, Red vs Green. Use an advantage system where, in no scoring rounds, the person with advantage automatically takes the round. Round 1 Green has "advantage", Round 2 the loser of Round 1 has "advantage", IF Round 3 occurs then the loser of Round 2 has "advantage". This forces people to constantly be on their attack game, and it's fast-paced and fun to watch.

[@AntoineFabri]

yeah I was proposing something similar, not sure about the advantage but 2 or 3 min rounds, 1 min break, win 2 rounds and no need for the third, or submit, and score normally. That will give more space to the standup, and fighters might take more risk because one stalling position doesn't f up the full match.

[@Mikemike69-e7f]

Just did your gatlinburg open . Best tournament I have ever done . Great job chewy making it fast paced and fun

[@tigon8224]

I don’t think it will drastically make competition better on its own but I think if you can pick someone up for 3 seconds you should score 4 points because you could have slammed them and potentially have ended the fight.

[@Skywalker96214]

My take is, the moment you pick up your opponent to waist height, you get 2 points, and the ref resets both athletes to open guard situation / standing, and here's my reasoning: 1. Awarding the top athlete 4 points is too many points, it gives him incentive to stall out the remaining time on clock after being reset by the ref. 2. Safety. Holding a resisting opponent in the air for 3 seconds can be potentially dangerous. 3. Forcing action. If the guard player knows the moment he gets lifted to waist height the ref will reset them, it gives him incentive to use attacks / off-balancing / sweeps to prevent the lift, or just simply open the guard. 4. Reset white and blue belts to open guard, purple to black to standing.

[@mikegrin2323]

Nobody adds fireworks and strippers to chess to entertain some dummies. Nobody even talks about it.

[@bigmoose1439]

Hold on, I think you’re on to something 👯‍♀️🎇♟️🎇👯‍♀️

[@jasonrose6288]

The sport is booming in countries like the US. It is fun to train and compete for everyday players. If it's not spectator-friendly, so what?

[@MrCmon113]

100% Not everything needs to be a spectator sports. Besides if you want to see movement and funny situations, just watch gym rolls. Watching my friends roll is super funny and entertaining. And there's lots if that on youtube. Keep the competitive grappling natural and don't turn it into judo with co stant ref calls.

[@Slade3465]

Make the biggest possible bonus payment be for: "Most Aggressively Paced" or something like "Most Legitimate Submission Attempts In A Match". We all know there are great guys out there who stall their matches, let the other guy get a bit tired failing to get out of something and then slowly setup the finish--it's very boring for the crowd. Even if you don't know what's going on watching the positions change constantly, or see someone go from an arm bar attempt to a triangle attempt to an omoplata attempt is pretty darn cool when all that happens in less than a minute and the crowd and the announcers are just freaking out. Seeing someone have half guard and they just kinda... stay there... and no one ever goes for a submission attempt at all the whole match is boring. I want to see people go for the big risk, big rewards. If there is no change in position after a time frame, say 45 seconds, they're forced to reset. If they're forced to reset it should be an auto-docking of prize money that would go towards the big bonus of "Most Legitimate Submission Attempts in a Match" to make that bonus bigger. A lot of top end matches have maybe 0-3 legitimate submission attempts, because it's risky to give up position to try and go for the win. Let's make the reward for trying to win the match be through the roof, and the penalties for stalling make that reward even greater. It'll make the stars shine brighter this way.

[@Yenjrish]

Cji was pretty entertaining

[@richardgallagher4880]

This was the answer to the question. Chewy gave the answer to the question he's posing this month, last month.😆

[@Chewjitsu]

It was great.

[@tosch9057]

First competition I watched was CJI, then later I watched Quintets in Japan, and after that I was supporting a friend at a local competition, so I watched that as well. I've never participated in a competition, but I plan to some time. What I learned from watching CJI and then the Quintet later: Avoid resets. The walls were genius. Other than that: 1. Avoid stalling. Not sure if it should be punished harder or if there should be a different incentive system, but if you want to put on a show, you need people to go for it and be aggressive. Also pulling guard and waiting for your opponent to pass you/overcommit is stalling. The same way walking backwards and waiting for your opponent to overcommit when wrestling is stalling. If you pull guard, you still have to be aggressive. Just not getting your guard passed is not good enough the same way just not getting taken down is not good enough. 2. If it is a point based competition, don't reveal the points until after the round. I think CJI also did well with their scoring system there. Someone else in the comments mentioned to not give points for advancing position, and I think that is probably a good idea. What that does is probably #3: 3. Incentivize submissions I think local competitions are way different though, since I usually go there for the people not for the BJJ. Although 1 & 3 definitely apply there as well. Especially 1, nothing kills excitement as much as stalling.

[@MrIanfellows]

Here is an off the wall idea. How about expiring points? For example, you could remove 25% of your points every 30 seconds, with stalling calls giving a permanent -0.5 to your end point total. So if you score 10 at the opening, those points are only worth .56 at the end, which is worth a little more than a sweep at the mid-point of the match (.47 points at the end). Also, maybe 12 points for a reasonably tight failed submission attempt? In the example, if someone sweeps half way through the match, but then attempts to stall out the remainder, incurring a single penalty, their end score would be .47-.5 = -.03, which would lose them the match against an opponent who scored 0. Basically, for excitement you want people to not rest on their laurels. You want them to feel pressure, like they are constantly racing to keep dominating, or better, feeling like they need to risk going for a submission to assure victory.

[@Scail17]

Wouldn't that incentivize being passive early game to preserve their energy? Wouldn't make sense to remove somebodies points even when they're going after submissions.

[@MrIanfellows]

@@Scail17 That would be risky as stalling points don't degrade.

[@bryanfontez]

Crazy idea... - No points for advancing position because the pay off IS the control and the advancement in position. - Points are only awarded for submission attempts that are locked and held for at least 2 seconds. - If there's a draw you do another 5/6 minute sudden death round - If it's still a draw the person with the sexiest Gi wins.

[@Mark-k9t4z]

Pretty sure that ruleset would just incentivize guard pulling even more, since there's no big disparity in point scoring potential between guard and top.

[@formersomethingsomething3273]

First of all : Buttscooting and guard pulling, all the stalling and the shameful behavior on the mat that we quite often see. If you'd slap your opponent in either Judo or wrestling then you are out for a long time but in BJJ it is very much an common sight even at low level events. Cut that bs and progress will be made.

[@Joe_Veno]

No points sub only in the pit! Also make the match 20 minutes. BUT make payout and/or ranking based on how quick you get a sub. Example is of you sub in 8 minutes out of 20 minute match pay X amount for each minute you saved! Maybe also have a payout or award for the "most exciting" match of the event.

[@tamamalosi]

No positional points. Submissions only. Five second stalling limit. No guard pulling for the first minute. Lack of action means forfeit. Pushing the action will probably improve viewership enjoyment. Plus the ramp. Mat card girls for big matches.

[@MrCmon113]

Why should it be a big spectator sport in the first place? Entertaining, flashy bjj exists: fun rolls in the gym. I love watching my friends go at it. Imo competitive bjj should stay natural without too much ref interference. As for points, imo points are closer to the core idea of a fighting sport. Being in mount is awesome even if you don't get a submission. I like the idea of having parts with and without guard pulling, bcs both might be advantageous in different situations. E.g. if one guy atracks you and only you maybe you can getter defend yourself with upkicks, but when a guy took your wallet, you can't sit down to get it back.

[@tamamalosi]

@MrCmon113 I dunno man. Viewership means sponsor dollars that means more awareness and numbers on the mats. More is better...imo.

[@lukeangels]

It’s absolutely about fat stalling calls and much harsher penalties for stalling. I was also thinking about a sort of Tennis inspired system, where you can win by points but you need to lead with 8 or more points, so you can‘t just sit on a one point lead. And every point you get gets you closer to your goal. We need to make it either more enticing to take risks (which is unlikely) or make it much less enticing not to take them. Pretty much all of the top level competitors are highly exciting in the gym, it’s rarely that people actually cancel eachother out.

[@MshadowsenseoC]

knives....

[@graciescottsdale]

😂😂

[@dannyworters8479]

Shit you beat me to it

[@VTdarkangel]

That would certainly make it more interesting. 😂😂

[@420champion4]

I think cji nailed it. Almost no ref intervention was refreshing and the judges scoring was exciting.

[@AntoineFabri]

One awful thing about BJJ is the number of categories. Under ibjjf there are 9 weight categories, 8 age categories, and 5 belts, that's 360 categories (+ 320 women categories, and multiply the full thing by 2 for gi/no gi) . Bring it down to something like 18 categories (20 times less) per gender, and call these handicaps, a handicap is computed from weight (actual number not range), age (actual number not range) and belt. You get fun fights because you'll have a smaller or older purple belt against a bigger white or blue for instance. Another thing that is really fun and awfully wasted is tournament brackets, they exist but we don't see them enough and we don't care, it's fun to guess how it will turn out, but the brackets are not shown or buried through the app, not convenient to look at, and in any case there are too many for use to care. in CGI they were well highlighted. Also put a few video cameras out there, or just some old phones streaming the events.

[@AntoineFabri]

I feel it would might also be more fun to do matches with rounds of 2 or 3 minutes, 1 minute break, win 2 (regular point system, not judges) and you win the match (not need for a third if 2 first rounds are won by same fighter). This way we might not be so risk averse in the stand up because we'll have another chance, unless we get submitted. If we reach a stalling position it won't be for long. And in the worst case if somebody beats you in a boring way twice there's a better case that he's just better.

[@espin7795]

CJI nailed it...I think it did a lot of things right, with not much being left wanting...except for more of it.

[@TeamIPhone12]

Similar to folkstyle wresting 3 periods (3min rounds) 1st period on your feet second period coin flip for choice of top or bottom(bottom player guard of choice) 3rd period top and bottom player flip once again bottom player has choice of what guard they wanna play….if bottom player escapes and stands up 1pt to force top player to actually engage rather than just backing out of the guard

[@BillyBlanks-qm5yt]

Just get rid of the butt scooting and people starting the man sitting down because you would not do that in a street fight

[@Samson789]

Guard pulling makes getting to the action faster, I think you should have connections to the person before pulling guard

[@Mark-k9t4z]

Who cares about street fights, I wouldn't be waiting for the guy to say "combate!" in a street fight either.

[@justinhearst]

@@Mark-k9t4z how you practice, is how you fight. there's your answer to who cares about street fights

[@Mark-k9t4z]

@@justinhearst If you are doing BJJ tournaments to prepare for a street fight you are deeply confused.

[@Urmomma5f4t]

@@Mark-k9t4zso many people started bjj after the UFC boom and like to think their blue belt means they mop up the average guy. So which one is it ? It seems like BJJ’s community is divided between their combat system beats other styles and is best for a 1v1 and their combat system is pure sport . You see it in comments when anyone critiques bjj as a fight style the top comment is almost always someone saying but a black belt would rip off your ankle / knee. IMO bjj is good as a combat sport but it’s application for self defense is a bit overrated especially with the chaos of most fights and the fact that most Bjj guys never compete and aren’t athletic

[@richlaf4292]

Are you gonna bring it back to Frankenmuth next year?

[@bradlopez3681]

Open scoring is best imo but adding something on top to encourage submissions would be best. Even something as simple as another medal for most subs with speed as a tie breaker would have people chasing it.

[@Sensei_Gaz]

Incorporating Judo throws/any takedown other than just sitting down/pulling guard, less expectation of the top player to engage the bottom player (forcing more stand ups/standing grappling), more stalling calls to keep things moving, consider allowing pins for 20s a win.

[@carguy2256]

The first minute should be an all out takedown battle, winner gets 3 points. If no takedown the aggressor gets the points. This would make BJJ more effective, considering to you use BJJ you need to be able to get a takedown quick.

[@teamkoi]

Wrestling stalling rules if your not working to improve your stalling, and I think there should always be points the drive to make a come back crests awesome stuff, if the stalling rules are more strict you can’t get a 2 point lead and stall

[@foggy561]

I'll give my 2 cents on the matter. Although this is counter intuitive for the real life function of BJJ. Should be an unlimited amount of times you can submit and get submitted in a match. Make it time based. This may help the matches be more exciting. I know when I grapple my buddies we put on a show because we aren't necessarily worried about getting tapped once and the match being over, allows us try all sorts of techniques I wouldn't ever try in a regular competition for fear of taking a quick loss. It would also reduce injuries since you aren't going to be fighting the sub till the point of injury. More realistic answer is to penalize butt scooting and stalling.

[@AntoineFabri]

interesting! how many points is a tap ?

[@foggy561]

@AntoineFabri tbh I haven't really thought the idea through. I guess the entire point system would need to be redone. Smarter people then me could figure it out though I'm sure.

[@badeybushcraft4946]

Points for escapes and reversals. People don’t risk as much if they are concerned they will get stuck on the bottom and then get literally no reward for improving their position.

[@insidetrip101]

I don't know you're going to think that I'm trolling, but honestly I don't mind it when someone scores a takedown and then "stalls out" the rest of the match. The reason why I don't mind it is because I think its not on the guy who is winning to win the match--he's already winning. I think its on the losing guy to score--so if he never threatens to score and change the position, then why should the guy that's winning do anything different? To be honest with you I think these matches would get way more exciting if we were more inclined to call stalling on the person who is LOSING rather than call stalling on the guy who is winning. In my opinion, you can't stall if you're winning (you can however, "flee" and that's a completely different concept). Only the person who is already losing can possibly be making the match unexciting--he's the reason why its not being competive. Start hitting the guy who is losing for stalling and you'll see way more exciting matches, and people getting impassioned thinking they're not stalling when they're already losing the match...

[@jwillard911]

No points Sub only keeps it moving.

[@UnlimitedMercy]

PGF may be on to something with their short matches and aggressive stalling calls. Even with the draw they make for exciting matches. Maybe if they do 1 point for a judges decision, 4 for a break and 7 for a kill it might make for a better match still.

[@MrCmon113]

The friendly matches in sparring are super interesting to watch. But real grappling includes staying in a position and not giving the other person anything. I don't think every sport needs to be great to watch.

[@caseygewirtzman5648]

Honestly, I think the only things that BJJ/grappling needs to get more popular are marketing and time. Consider that golf, tennis, and baseball are three of the most BORING sports in the world to watch, yet they are all globally popular. That’s because they’ve been around for a long time, and various leagues/associations have been able to market them very well. I think professional grappling as we know it just needs to keep growing and finding its identity, and then some clever enough promoter will figure out how to put it on a television and make people care. Rule changes and things of that sort will surely help on the margins, but nobody will convince me that golf is more popular because it’s more exciting to watch.

[@tomsecher4275]

Points can only be scored in the last minute. Gets a winner. Stops stalling, most will finish by sub before last min.

[@juliogil3539]

Pulling guard restricted for the first 90secs also leg lock attempts

[@af4396]

Quick thoughts: 1) Guard pulling isn't boring to watch, SITTING to guard is boring. Guard pulls are some of the most exciting and dynamic things to happen in a BJJ match. Either people don't know what it means to pull guard (or aren't aware that there are many guards to pull into aside from closed guard or sitting "guard"), or they're in the wrong place and should watch wrestling or boxing. 2) Points should disappear after time, and there should be NO points for sweeps, only passing the guard (to a position, which may happen during a sweep). If you can't do anything with the position and earn more points (in, say, a minute), then your points will go away. 3) Standing wrestling/judo style matches are BOOORRRINGGGG to watch if two people can't take each other down, and this is BJJ first and foremost (ground fighting), NOT wrestling or judo. If someone doesn't go to the ground in 3 minutes, a coin should be tossed and one person must start in open guard, so that both practitioners are prepared to be good at passing or retaining guard. At the end of the day, I don't care if non-practitioners are bored of watching BJJ because it's not a bloodsport, it isn't for them. They can watch MMA, and watch a few rounds of people punching and kicking each other and doing the same thing over and over and over and over. If that tickles people's brains, so be it. Doesn't do it for me.

[@SongofRholand]

If you pull guard and don't sweep your opponent should be awarded a take down. 5 minutes total. Stalling calls. first a warning, second 2 points, 3 you loose. Allow slams if you can't keep a guy from picking you up then you don't have control. 10 point lead you win. Stalling call, or going out of bounds you both go beach to your feet

[@b4dmaash]

You can make the matches where you are not allowed to tap and with no time limit.

[@kedah2398]

To be honest, I only watch white to purple belt match... These are the best and most exciting matches.

[@fyrdraca77]

The fact is it will never be a spectator sport...BJJ will always be more enjoyable to do than to watch. When you start tinkering to make it more 'spectator friendly', you run the risk of de-naturalizing a sport and lose what it makes it great to do.

[@b4dmaash]

Just add punches and kicks to the bjj, it will become very interesting.

[@chaystafari3228]

Strikes

[@alexrosales9326]

Make the medals nicer or make a cash prize

[@TheStr8Up1]

Banning guard pulling will absolutely not make BJJ more exciting to watch. What’s more boring than watching someone refuse to pass open guard? Two inexperienced wrestlers trading collar ties and shuffling around the mat with no takedown attempts. I think the answer is to incentivize physically moving forward by penalizing getting pushed out of bounds. If you push your opponent out of bounds on the feet, you score - no being overly defensive on the feet. If you pull guard and get pushed and rolled backwards out of bounds, the opponent scores without having to recklessly go for a pass against an overly defensive guard player and without this “active stalling” BS. If you pull guard and but scoot your opponent out of bounds because they refuse to engage your guard, you score. You can’t refuse to engage.

[@zachlussier8991]

5 minutes for full prize money, then run the money down with the clock.

[@anderandersson5229]

Make take downs be 4 points?

[@Vitin2811]

Doing minutes matches so fights are more intense And penalize people for stalls

[@curraja14]

Turtling is giving up 2 points, and so is pulling guard. Stalling should be punished.

[@tjl4688]

It's boring because grappling is boring. BJJ was always better to watch when it was Vale Tudo.

[@jeffreywilliams5871]

People always say white belts are the most fun to watch and since they don’t know many submissions maybe have a white belt tournament that’s points based and have them go before the higher belts compete. and then you can have the higher belts that have better knowledge and more submissions learned compete in submission only

[@jeffreywilliams5871]

i think it would also help hype up the new comers and make them feel more welcome while also not having the pressure of needing to end the match by submission.

[@JC.Bailey]

Craig Jones will make it more exciting!!!!

[@josantana01]

Penalize going out of bounds, add walls ect

[@Morganwmahan]

It's ALL the announcer

[@ericthomas6356]

The EBI overtime rules are exciting. Starting on the back or spider web takes the viewer right to the good part. Defensively and offensively it’s easy to understand by a first time viewer. Hence the win by throw in judo. Everyone understands a human trying to throw another. And once one persons feet leave the mat, the whole crowd gasps, regardless of their knowledge of judo.

[@tahulanyon3995]

Just bring in technical fall

[@neomorphus7010]

Give negative points for guys pulling guard or sitting down right away!

[@ll2nycell]

Points shouldn't count until you have a legitimate sub attempt

[@ACIIIL_extracts-zr5wz]

some things in life are supposed to be boring like asmr lol boring things can still be enjoyable like golf and chess

[@CBKDaHottest]

Guard pulling shouldn’t matter it’s not wrestling go wrestle. Be aggressive with stalling

[@nickaa121212]

I don’t know how you do this but, when I watch videos, I fast forward through the standing game and when they start grabbing feet. Also nobody wants to see a guy grab another guys asshole. Wtf is that about.

[@sylvainletang8645]

No more points! Sub only! No winner by the end put them rear mount 1 minute if No sub switch

[@user-vc6]

The real answer is nothing it’s just like chess etc and we shouldn’t try besides small improvements things like the pit … remember wrestling in judo are products we compete with in the grappling space and will never beat them at them at stand up ( heck judo has subs I think more people who complain about guard pulls should just watch it ). Ideas like stalling calls or more wrestling/judo other rulesets ie sub only etc etc ( Ive watch a fuk ton of jiu jitsu since the 2005 adcc) time to except it’s just a sport better participated in then watched.. unless you’re a nerd like me

[@xTwistedFleshX]

Heavily punish stalling. Award points for takedowns as usual. Award points to the player who remained standing if the other decided to sit down. Jiu jitsu should be viewed as a complete martial art and the standup should be part of that. If you don’t want to standup that’s fine, but then you’ll give up points if you sit. Also the standup should be scored like wrestling. Constant pressure and action not this bullshit of collar ties and pushing around. There’s nothing more boring to watch than no-gi “standup” if you can even call it that. It’s like watching two children pushing each other around.

[@AndersRosendalBJJ]

Punish people for running out of the mat. It's getting really stupid. Penalty or 1 point for the opponent every time you go outside the mat. No matter why.

[@jarijahy.1591]

Gi-jj is more boring because there are too many grips, that allow stalling. Some grips are just too dominant. Minimizing allowed grips would at least allow the match to be more dynamic. Maybe only allowing "outside" gi grips (like pistol grips) and not the curled sleeve grips, where you curl your fingers from outside to inside. Also not allowing lapel or belt control grips.

[@af4396]

No, then people won't train grabbing lapels and belts, which are amazing grips for using BJJ in the real world. Almost every man wears a belt, or at the very least has pants with a thick top where the belt loops. Lapels are on every sweater, leather jacket, wind/rain jacket, winter jacket, motorcycle jacket etc. Stupid to not train that.

[@jarijahy.1591]

​@@af4396 you should train it, but to make gi-jj more exciting for spectators ... I think you should lessen or limit the allowable grips ... You'll get more movement and mobility in matches ...

[@dannyworters8479]

........KNIVES

[@DSVN23]

Ban leg locks

[@ByronC900]

Not everything has to be exciting. Almost everything in the Olympics is boring af, and I find most ball sports boring personally.

[@AdamRoss1975]

You need strikes. I’m a BB and I quickly get bored watching grappling. When I watch MMA, I don’t want to see a sub, I want to see a ✊ out.

[@BarChordA]

Knife on the mat

[@Chewjitsu]

😂 maybe a little extreme.

[@Martial-Mat]

Have them fight on electrified mats with the current increasing every minute until 20 minutes when it reaches 500 volts. If one person doesn't exceed a points score by then, you simply drag the bodies away and start the next match. Now some people will accuse me of being extreme...

[@kendalljames260]

No points and EBI overtime for no subs. And you can kick butt scooters. (Just kidding. Kind of)

[@az8039]

CJI and EBI proves it’s not the rule set, it’s the competitors. That’s it. The UFC gets it right. Is it fair always? No, but there is a reason makes specific fights because they have a chance at being the most entertaining

[@ItsPandatory]

I always wonder how much of that "first score advantage" stat is just that the better person can score first

[@timmgoodman]

Stop trying to make it wrestling.

[@isreal4153]

Jujitsu matches are only boring to people that don’t know what they’re looking at.

[@coldc7]

Tae Kwon do kicks.