Cheyenne Class Starships

[@jameslynch2399]

The saucer for the Cheyenne class is indeed the saucer from the Galaxy, but only the bottom half. They took two bottom halves of the Galaxy saucer and stuck them together so they could have two "neck" connectors which they used here for nacelle pylons.

[@MarvelousSeven]

Good eye

[@Bondoz007]

Marker pen technology was discovered by Starfleet scientists though due to recycling issues never caught on in mainstream production. Also, there only ever seemed to be bright yellow and blue available and pink and orange were always in short supply.

[@stevengalloway8052]

😂 Nut... 👏

[@vic5015]

The New Orleans class used them too.

[@hellfish2309]

There ARE (4) PENS!!

[@thallus23]

😂

[@nixboox]

@@vic5015 I think those were highlighters.

[@josephmassaro]

I like this class. Especially the variant options. It was one of my favorite early ships in STO.

[@dogofwar6769]

I always loved the quad nacelle design.

[@LTDLimiTeD1995]

Ships without deflector dishes always have such a sleek look.

[@rinoz47]

I like to think that Wolf 359 ships are Starfleet's light duty craft. The "budget" vessels with economy level ship hardware. The kind that go thier whole tour without ever using thier phasers in aggression. The ships we see in show are all the professional and specialty level vehicles.

[@bipolarminddroppings]

You are kind of right. The only ships close enough to respond in time would be the kind of ships that do regular fleet work within Federation space, I.e older, slower, less powerful ships. All the fast, powerful, new ships are off at the far reaches of Federation space exploring or patrolling.

[@CaptPatrick01]

The Californias of their day.

[@ffnbbq]

FYI, the markers/highlighters used here are the Stabilo Swing Cool markers and they're still being made.

[@XanderKHD]

The fact that the starship used pens for the nacelles just cracked me up. 😂 Though at the same time, it's fun to see how just some ordinary mundane kit-bashing can create such extensive and unique lore for these starships.

[@gusty9053]

The famous pens also make a big contribution in the New Orleans class. As specialized pods in that case rather then nacelles :)).

[@canisarcani]

i have a soft spot for all of the quad nacelle vessels, but this one is one of my favorites. i love the unique nacelle design and, while she may not be the most powerful or the fastest ship, she just always seemed like she would be a very reliable ship, especially for second and third contact scenarios in sections of space that were naturally hazardous. she just has that steady and competant look and feel to her.

[@antwan1357]

I feel that every ship deserves at least one episode. Great content keep up the excellent content.

[@mdsx01]

I winced a bit when I saw how damn close the warpcore is to the shuttle bay. All it would take is a bad shuttle accident, and core integrity is in trouble. And with that I just wrote an episode of Star Trek.

[@keit99]

Really does Sound like a TNG Episode doesn't it 😂

[@thanqualthehighseer]

so if the Cheyanne can travel for extended times by alternating between nacelles then the biggest limit to federation starships isn't the warp core but the warp coils themselves. ether they start to destabilise 12 hours of max output or a accumulation of exotic particles prevents safe operation

[@TheFlyWahine]

Verry cool detail that they can keep 2 runnin and the other 2 on cooldown/maintenence while in warp.

[@HylianFox3]

The Wolf 359 kitbashes are some of my all-time favorite Trek ships. They're so interesting yet singular in design, unlike the truly hideous DS9 kitbashes. I currently have the New Orleans, Cheyenne, and Springfield class ships from Eaglemoss. I'd like to get some of the others but they're out of business, and Master Replicas doesn't have all the models available...

[@jayburn00]

"We have come a long way from making models based on dinner plates. So how should we design the nacelles on this one?" "Lets make them out of markers." "Brilliant!"

[@somestormchaseridjitwithwi2024]

Other classes that don't receive much love from the show creators were the Freedom, Springfield, Challenger, New Orleans and Niagara classes.

[@carterh8431]

Definitely the most elegant of the Wolf 359 models.

[@christopherg2347]

"You made a very good looking wreck." is not good thing to say 😉

[@johnsteiner3417]

A Star Trek vessel that deviates from the standard by putting its center of thrust and center of mass in the same place, so it'd actually work.

[@bipolarminddroppings]

None of that matters when you have impulse engines and warp drive. Also, where your centre of thrust and mass are only matters in atmospheric flight...

[@malloryemclaren]

@@bipolarminddroppings well, also in relation to aesthetics

[@mastasolo]

@@bipolarminddroppings For warp travel, CoM and CoT wouldn't matter, but even in the vacuum of space, impulse engines are a classical method of propulsion by throwing stuff out the back to move the ship forward and still need to line up their CoT with the CoM, if they weren't the ship would just spin out of control. This doesn't mean the necessarily need to line up physically, but the total thrust vectors have to equate to a CoT that lines up with the CoM.

[@d.b.4671]

Given that the warp coils and the deflector are likely the heaviest parts of a starship, I find that the impulse engines usually do align with the center of mass. The saucer just makes it look top-heavy because of its wide diameter, even though it's mostly open space inside.

[@bigfootwalker5399]

The center of mass is within the primary hull (the saucer section), not the secondary hull (the drive section)! So you are wrong.

[@spiritofthewolf15x]

I always loved the look of this ship.

[@90lancaster]

I have the Eaglemoss one of these on my Lampbase so I see it constantly... I kinda wish they'd update these Battle of Wolf 359 era designs to modern versions... not everything needs to be a Miranda Class Update after all. I think they are often a bit nuts looking so they family of them adds visual interest.. not to mention the elongated Excelsior prototype is even in one of the movies for a few frames so is technically canon.

[@jamesi8594]

I’ve been a big fan of this design since I first saw the miniature in a picture with the Springfield years (decades?!) ago. I remember thinking “Why the hell didn’t they use that more in TNG?!” 😂 I think it’s a gorgeous design that imho has been terribly neglected. I love seeing it finally get the attention it deserves, and from the CI crew, no less 👍

[@WyrmLimion]

My favourite ship class. I use the Mirror Universe Cheyenne Class as my main ship.

[@RandomTrinidadian]

Love this class ❤

[@jasonworlock5113]

The USS Ahwahnee Cheyenne Class ship that was made for the Worf 369 battle wreckage was notable for being the one Starfleet vessel to be salvaged from the battle. I would later appear, in name only, as one of the ships in the Romulan blockade in Redemption Part 2.

[@stevieturner9338]

Thank you again Rick. For the informitive video.

[@Kreachie]

Ahwahnee is a pretty under-appreciated ship, also she actually survived the battle, the only one of the 39 vessels to that fought in Wolf 359 to do so, a year later, after repairs were finished, she participated in the tachyon grid to prevent Romulan interference in the Klingon Civil War along with the Excalibur, Enterprise-D, Aries, Tian-an-men, Hathaway, and Sutherland. Also the USS Cheyenne’s registry number (I got this from Ex-Astris-Scientia) was NCC-73531

[@chrissonofpear1384]

Hmm, maybe that was from Star Trek Online? The Ahwahnee is often listed (including in the tachyon grid display) as NCC-71620, instead, not 73620 (on initial model) @Kreachie . I've also seen NCC-70611, and NCC-50000, for the Cheyenne, in assorted sources.

[@sillypuppy5940]

It seems that every Federation ship with two nacelles loses its warp power after a gentle tickle on one nacelle... so maybe having four nacelles would negate this problem?

[@jono_cc2258]

Honestly if I were to pick my favourite design from the TNG shows it would be a toss up between the Nebula and the Cheyenne, great little ship and the Eaglemoss model is fantastic.

[@entropy11]

I'd like to imagine the Cheyenne can do saucer separation too, only as an emergency lifeboat as there's no way the engineering hull could operate on its own at that size. The height would give it a pretty substantial warp core though.

[@MrApplemat]

Really loved this design of star ship would liked to have seen more of these in the actual show.

[@chrisbritt4266]

Just saw this video my feed. I didn't see the notification but I just wanted to know you just did one of my more favorite classes. I love those four naselle vessels.

[@Sh_rib]

Todays a good day, a Certifiably Ingame video and i just achieved platinum in STO 😁

[@JeremyBuxman]

I think we have to assume a deflector is "a really good idea" but not actually needed for warp travel.

[@lnlraven079]

Supposedly, the USS Billings which Tuvok and Janeway served on was one of these vessels, but that goes into beta cannon with the mention of the Billings herself being the only thing from the show. Now to see crew members from ships like these, you can see where they went if they were in STO and try to use that as a guide.

[@redfishtex738]

Ahh you engineers. Cut and paste. Cut and paste. Run your simulations. Just keep making so many different ships like the Enterprise D spitting out run-abouts like a Pez dispenser. Gotta love the variations for sure.

[@adamwilder2943]

Thanks Rick sir, for a wonderful episode covering an interesting ship.

[@cernstormrunner7263]

Just realized its missing a Deflector - that would make it perfect imho. Always wonder if some day we will get a Hero ship in a series with 4 Nacelles. Hoped the new Stargazer would be that ship but i guess we get the Titan-A / Ent-G instead

[@dragonsword7370]

This setup of so had always been in the category of, "VERY STARFLEET designed, but still probably the farthest away from it's "boilerplate idea" of how ships should be connected. I mean the classic quandary they always have of "Do we put the nacelles up or down from the engineering hull?" Here, it's a sauce and No question on the nacelles. Easy for the designer at least 😂. I think there should be another variant to this class of four nacelles designs. There us the Atlas Dreadnought, starlet ship on STO that has four nacelles, but they are stacked, two on eachother vertically instead of separated. Into a four way box. Another in the pile of intriguing ways to put parts around on your ship. I forgot, the Cheyenne really jibes with me because it puts the main deflector in the fore end of the saucer. Makes more sense in a "monkey engineer logic" fashion, I think?

[@Nalehw]

The ship from 'What We Left Behind' doco uses stacked nacelles too!

[@stevenewman1393]

🖖😎👍Very cool and very nicely well done and very well informatively explained and executed in every detail way shape and form possibly provided indeed, And I myself have always liked the 4 nacelle designed starship's like the Constellation class and so forth, And I myself have quite a few of the Eaglemoss models of these classes of vessels,As well as various model kits that I still haven't got around to building yet...

[@Macintoshiba]

My biggest pet peeve with this ship is that it lacks any sort of navigational deflector. In STO, when you scan something, the visual effects come out of a row of windows on the lower part of the saucer.

[@CyrusB1]

"This is Captain Shran, of the Cheyenne ship Yucatan; if you have a plan, then I'm your Andor-i-an"

[@balrighty3523]

I'm looking forward to the episode dedicated to the oddball Springfield.

[@CoralCopperHead]

Hearing the four pens story reminds me that a good chunk of Doom's textures are just pictures of the same toy minigun they bought to play the role of the Chaingun.

[@peterhans3791]

It makes me sad how little love this ship gets because it's my favorite wolf 359 design

[@KaiCrafted]

That's a very attractive design, too bad we didn't see more of it

[@themount6549]

Please do a video about the Miranda class next

[@breembo]

Is there a reason why starfleet in picard season 1, can pull together such a massive fleet of vessels so quickly, yet in all borg encounters they can barely scrape together enough?

[@CathrineMacNiel]

copy&paste wasn''t invented yet.

[@danielseelye6005]

Because Picard Season 1 is set after the Dominion War and they had a massive mothball fleet, reminiscent of the US mothball fleets after WW2. The earlier Borg Encounters were during the Golden Age/Malaise of the Federation

[@scttydsntknw]

I would like to offer a suggestion regarding the pronunciation of Cheyenne. It's the correct pronunciation is "shai-ANN", I understand Native American pronunciations might be hard to figure out as they are spelled way different than they are sounded out. i hope this helps.

[@aristotle29]

The Constitution class had the Constellation class, and the Galaxy class had the Cheyenne class. What did the Excelsior class and Sovereign classes have?

[@JammyONE]

The ship with marker pens for engines.

[@Jonny-317]

Love this video. There’s no way you would know this but it’s actually pronounced “shy-ann” It’s a Native American tribe.

[@brianberthold3118]

this is 2 1/2500 scale galaxy class bottom saucer.neck parts with a 1/1400 scale Galaxy Bridge with the pens im not sure what the Pylons are from or if they were custom parts

[@DanielSolis]

Being a marathoner, I think I have a new favorite class.

[@hawk7825]

I could see this design separating into 2 - 4 sections!

[@warwolf88]

i love this ship i wish it had got more screen time😊

[@smartgoku9048]

one day i was looking at a spoon upside down and it looked like voyger. ever since then i can't not see a spoon when ever i see the intrepid style voyeger. mundane items are amazing.

[@longWriter]

It looks cool, but...where's the navigational deflector? I'm kind of a junkie for navigational deflectors...

[@StephenLawson]

I listen to your lore playlist everynight as I sleep. That and Exploring Series spc and 40k playlists, but you more regularly

[@5505daniel]

That's one way to keep other galaxy powers guessing. Just kickbash your starships so they appear new models

[@AGaiman]

Please give a review of Vulcan starship designs. I'm interested in the circular nacelles.

[@danielseelye6005]

Check out Venom Geek Media 98, he did multiple Ship Chat videos on the Vulcan ships/warp ring design among other classes and designs.

[@kaitlyn__L]

If you look closely at the models in Enterprise, the glowing parts inside the ring are always split into 2 or 4 sections! Also some of them animate two opposing glowing sections rotating between all the positions. Implying the ring design is really not that different, except in sharing the load amongst even more warp coils (possibly rated for lower power than Starfleet designs).

[@2490debrick]

This is what the Stargazer should have been... Just needs an Enterprise style deflector in the front!

[@obsidian179]

Still holding out hope for a look at the New Orleans class one day. 🙂

[@valerie93_]

The fact that STO changed the saucer to be correct to the canon breaks my heart, because their original interpretation of it was great 😂😭😂

[@tiegedean2991]

Its pronounced Shy An. Named for the Cheyenne people and/or the city in Montana

[@d.b.4671]

Wyoming.

[@pyeitme508]

Wow 😮

[@vallettapetracyneran8587]

I argue the Cheyenne is a good "let's get something done" ship. It's not flash or diplomatic. It's job is to go out, survey and come back. Nothing more. Thus she is typically Starfleet

[@eisenklad]

i'm suprised these 4 nacelles ships didnt do double duty as cargo ships. like the Nebula which supposedly can be used to transport a galaxy saucer. i'm sure the cheyenne can transport massive items between the pylons.

[@hybridt]

A simple but effective ship design

[@baystated]

320 crew in that tiny saucer with no sizeable engineering section? That would be an awful assignment!

[@kaisershipyards]

This design also has a published but not official paper book bout it released in 1995 or 98 :)

[@kaitlyn__L]

Saucer separation on this ship is basically just an emergency nacelle jettison! Maybe losing main engineering but that’s gotta be it.

[@Rockwolf50]

Great lore and all, but I doubt it was this deep. My guess is they likely only built a couple of these. My guess is this is a small scale test of the galaxy saucer with separation ability. Someone thought “Well shit…. How the hell is the saucer supposed to get anywhere without warp engines?” Then someone said “Let’s just slap on some extra nacelles that stay connected to the saucer!” Voila, this is what they came up with. You can see it, given how the upper pylons aren’t connected to the lower hull so they won’t separate with the ship. This also makes sense as to why it was at Wolf 359. It like the Freedom which was a full test of the Galaxy nacelle, with the same small saucer as the New Orleans and Springfield, which was just a test of this saucer and nacelle combination. The New Orleans was a small scale test of the galaxy nacelle design…. I digress…. Like I was saying, this is why it was at Woof 359. It was sitting around at the shipyards and they scraped up every ship they could get. So given that it is a very unwieldy design, I doubt they built very many. Likely a couple and that is it. Even the Springfield was likely more than a couple, same with the Freedom. The NO, Nebula and Galaxy seem to be the only real ones that saw mass production and it makes sense. Although I will still say that I believe the Nebula was originally the final design for the Galaxy Class, but was rejected. Given the design is so damn good though, they went ahead with it anyway. I think it was likely brought into service to replace the Excelsior in that role. Sorry for the rant here.

[@shadowgl9]

Never made sense to me that every starfleet ship wasn't armed to the gills regardless of what the ships main function was considering how dangerous it was with every encounter, known or unknown is.

[@CaptainDonut0]

Plz. Do the Sheliack corporet index. Atempt nr. 6?

[@erikerice9068]

It's a slicker looking Stargazer, which is fine by me.

[@Nethershaw]

It does strike me as quite odd that there isn't an obvious deflector dish on the model. It's weird not to see at least a little one.

[@kaitlyn__L]

The Nebula class has this problem too, but also lacks impulse vents lol

[@MisterWileyOne]

New Orleans class next please

[@TheGameGetterKuzuri]

I still think the scaling is off on this ship. The dimensions seem pretty big for how huge those windows are

[@matthewjay660]

Rick, we Yanks pronounce it as "shy-ANN." 🇺🇸🤝🇬🇧 Sarcastic Vulcan salutes. 🖖🏻🖖🏻

[@BrowncoatInABox]

sitting in Cheyenne, Wyoming

[@Revkor]

the saucer is actually the bottom of two galaxy saucers

[@anthonylasalle7392]

the 2360s ships are funny. there all just Galaxy saucers with various thingy-jingles attached to it.

[@jerrybot7321]

It has 4 nacelles so it must go to warp 20 right? more nacelles = more speeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed

[@CathrineMacNiel]

Only if its red.

[@danielseelye6005]

Until it tries to tear the ship apart pushing through subspace.

[@LMG1792]

Rather like the look of this ship

[@cryptohivemind205]

Any1 know if you can play STO on the PS4 or does it only work on a PC?

[@DeaconBlues117]

There are versions on both Playstation and Xbox. Personally I prefer the controls on PC, but there are plenty of console players too.

[@cryptohivemind205]

Thanks for your help it's very much appreciated 👍

[@adonijahmorningstar493]

Is it me or does this look the Federation's version of "the Orville!"

[@terrancechilds3049]

I am not the only one who has noticed that this ship is upside down right?

[@radionoakmont7756]

and they mis pronounced the name it is ARAPAJO, j has the h sound and m8 id love to have one for exploration and trick it out with some extras a secret extra shield and bonus warp core as well and ablative plating armor for extra coverage i would love to have it always liked 4 nacelle's and named after a great Native American tribe as well, Navajo and the Cheyenne class right on, this is bonzariffic and with of course extra scanner abilities for my personal one always, for extra plant scanning and medical needs tooto be an extra hand in bigger exploratory missions.

[@sullythemic]

Where’s the navigational deflector ??

[@hanshawks5088]

Is Cheyenne West the Captain ?

[@ryalsian1]

Where is the deflector dish?

[@ericmci]

Good video. But it's pronounced as 'Shy-Ann' class. This is important bc it is the name of tribe in North America. Can't al-you-mini-um this one. ;-

[@vic5015]

In his defense. I doubt he learned much about u Native American tribes in school.

[@stevengalloway8052]

Is it standard to name a class after the first ship of that class being built? 🤔🤨

[@davidb4715]

320? A high school in space. Gimme a ship with 2000-3000 personnel.

[@philipmetts8831]

How does warp work?

[@PhilDrury]

Now come on! It's basically a TNG Constellation Class... but frankly needs a thicker saucer and... Well... all Stargazer types since then... sort of ....eh...suck.

[@shaalis]

USS Highlighter

[@hansmeyer7225]

Stabilo Class

[@casbot71]

Why didn't they just copy/paste one or two wrecked ship types for the battle of Wolf 359 /s

[@nixboox]

I was right with you up until you made the constant, omnipresent mistake of suggesting that the Intrepid was "faster". We've pretty much exhaustively explained to all you and your channel brethren that the warp FACTOR is not a speedometer. The Intrepid was a SLOW ship. Just look at the tiny nacelles it had and you know that it wasn't breaking any records. Canonically the Intrepid was NINE times slower than the Galaxy class. Canonically...not imaginarily or beta-canonically... This ship with its four nacelles (which I applaud you for not suggesting 'make it go faster') was faster than the Intrepid at Warp 9 by about four times. This is because the WARP is unique to each ship. In the same way that the RPMs of a propeller don't directly equate to the speed of the craft using that propeller. You can be at Warp 9 and not be moving at all - which we, again, canonically know to be true. The Intrepid had a sustained high warp FACTOR because it was a very tiny ship and would be utterly useless if it had to limp along at a lower Warp factor. As it was, the Galaxy at its maximum warp would still have been able to make it back from the Delta quadrant in about 8 years. Had the story been about a Galaxy class the show would have had a running life of about the 7 year mark...but who would root for a ship that "would be home in 8 years" instead of nearly 80?