Chicago - 12/19/82 - Dortmund, Germany - [29fps]

Chicago - December 19, 1982 - Rock-Pop - Dortmund, Germany.
1. Ballet For A Girl In Buchannon
2. Make Me Smile
3. So Much to Say, So Much to Give
4. Anxiety's Moment
5. West Virginia Fantasies
6. Colour My World
7. To Be Free
8. Now More Than Ever
9. To Be Free
10. Scrapbook
11. Chains (Ian Thomas cover)
12. If You Leave Me Now
13. Free Form Intro
14. Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is?
15. Love Me Tomorrow
16. Hard to Say I'm Sorry / Get Away
17. 25 or 6 to 4
18. Gimme Some Lovin' (The Spencer Davis Group cover)
19. Got to Get You Into My Life (The Beatles cover)
#chicago #concert #germany

[@twinpeakswithoutthemagic]

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[@johnswogger1037]

Peter and the boys, early 80's. Oh my!! Parts of these songs, and the way they harmonize it, still ... makes my heart tingle. "it's always lonely til the dawn..."

[@twinpeakswithoutthemagic]

@@johnswogger1037 Hard to Say I’m Sorry introduced me to Chicago about 20 years ago and it’s still their signature song for me but Love Me Tomorrow is so overlooked for an equally great song.

[@lamarravery4094]

I would love to see more Chicago from this time period.

[@eisbaerbel]

Saw this concert on German TV in January 1983 at age 16, and it blew me away, what musicality. As a drummer I like Danny best but as second it is the trombone player...

[@kbrewski1]

You missed the real Chicago in the 70s.

[@prokastinatore]

Of course it was a great time when Terry Kath was onboard of the team!

[@adammaybloom7276]

Chicago is Peter Cetera: bass, guitar, vocals Robert Lamm: keyboards and vocals Bill Champlin: keyboards, guitars and vocals Danny Seraphine: drums Walter Parazaider: woodwinds, percussion and background vocals Lee Loughnane: trumpet, percussion and background vocals James Pankow: trombone, percussion and background vocals Chris Pinnick: guitars

[@MissComptine]

Terry Kath😢

[@USAAF]

One of the greatest Chicago concerts ever. I was at this show at the age of 19 while living near Dortmund in Germany. Other bands like Gary Moore, Tom Petty, Rio Speedwagon and ZZ Top etc. were among the other performers during a few days of great events. It was later broadcast on TV and I did tape it on VHS. The tape was destroyed and lost a couple years later after watching it a zillion times either by myself or with friends. Very happy to revisit it here on KZbin after 42 years just brings tears into my eyes. The good old 80s when there was no cell phones and at the concerts people use to light up their lighters live and enjoy the moment... Thank you very kindly for posting it 🙏🏼🙇🏻‍♂♥

[@twinpeakswithoutthemagic]

Thank you so much for sharing, I’m glad this concert video brought back memories. It’s really had a life of its own lately.

[@malhardeman3247]

Cetera is such an underrated bass player

[@twinpeakswithoutthemagic]

A musician can happily be underrated or be an overrated douche like Kurt Cobain.

[@chavaportillo7277]

But his singing makes up for it DEFINITELY!!!

[@prokastinatore]

I heard Chicago and Earth, Wind & Fire last night ( September 1st, 2024) in Concord /CA/USA. Like decades ago great bands!

[@moodylicious]

Chris Pinnick (guitar) played beautifully!!

[@pierceelyhibionada342]

an Underappreciated Part of Chicago!

[@moodylicious]

@@pierceelyhibionada342 for sure. He seemed to be a kind, obscure man who had no taste for attention or the spotlight. But he played well; very well.

[@pierceelyhibionada342]

@@moodylicious yes like his just doing his Business.

[@moodylicious]

@@pierceelyhibionada342 true. Not a show-boater. Solid, unassuming, proficient musician.

[@PauloHowlett]

Th best Chicago guitar player

[@warrenenglish942]

Chris Pinnick was a good fit for the band. Great player. Too bad it wasn't seen that way by everyone else.

[@KevinMichaelWinterfield]

he's killing it on that 25 or 6 to 4 solo. so good.

[@dfgall]

issue was he couldn't sing

[@warrenenglish942]

@@dfgall Pankow doesn't either! Ha!

[@waltersimmons946]

@@warrenenglish942 Pankow sang on the 1977 single YOU ARE ON MY MIND .It's on 1976s CHICAGO X album. Pankows song was the 3rd single that followed ANOTHER RAINY DAY IN NEW YORK CITY and their first number one IF YOU LEAVE ME NOW .

[@warrenenglish942]

@@waltersimmons946 Yes. I am aware of all that. Jimmy also sang "Till the End of Time." He's not a good singer. The first time I saw Chicago (around six months before Kath passed) I was really disappointed when JP sang "YAoMM" live and there was no trombone solo. Lee played a trumpet solo and it went into a percussion jam.

[@rislinandar3413]

happy to see Pete still with the band...thank you for sharing....

[@coasterdude407]

No he is not. Chicago went into the rock n roll hall of fame. They asked Peter to return he refused.

[@lamarravery4094]

Peter would be in the band until the end of the Chicago 17 tour in 1985. He really rocks in this concert, what a performer.

[@waltersimmons946]

​​@@coasterdude407They (the band) insulted Peter that's why he refused. I don't blame him for doing so. 37:48

[@aprilgosa5779]

this is from 1982 Cetera left in the mid 80s Champlin had just joined in 1982

[@waltersimmons946]

Cetera left in July 1985. ​@@aprilgosa5779

[@prokastinatore]

Heard them a few weeks ago in Concord/ CA / 🇺🇸 together with earth, wind and fire and they’re still on stage since 1967. Great artists, musicians and human beings. I talked to Robert Lamm after the concert and suggested to play scrapbook on their next tour again. Robert is now 79 and still young!

[@twinpeakswithoutthemagic]

@@prokastinatore That’s amazing that you saw them recently. I’ve been a fan since 2003, even though I’m only 39 this year. Man I’d love to chat to Robert myself, he’s young at heart, that’s what keeps him going. I was in a tiny bar Saturday night wanting to do karaoke and they had a picture of Chicago 17 on the wall, naturally I sang You’re the Inspiration as a tribute. My voice is too deep and untrained for Peter’s vocals but it was still so nice to sing it.

[@coasterdude407]

I love this band. I wish Peter Cetara would of stayed with the band.

[@traghettatoredelcrostolo5266]

yea with dacus and without champlin

[@tonyde52]

This was 1982. He left the band in 1985

[@waltersimmons946]

​@tonyde52 The band and management forced Cetera's hand. They agreed to him (1) Spending time off with his newborn daughter Claire (born in 1983) She's now 40. (2) They agreed to let him do his second solo album but deep down the band/management weren't happy about Cetera wanting to do a solo album though Robert Lamm put out an album himself in 1974 with no issues over it. The band and management reneged on that agreement and Cetera already dealing with jealousy, attitudes and band members (Seraphine and Champlin had no part in none of this) money grumbling. Cetera really had enough and telling him if he didn't comply saying "We'll look elsewhere for a bass player " was the final straw. That's why Cetera left. The horn players and Lamm talk a lot about DEMOCRACY in the band. Yeah right look how many people have come and gone in that band since July 1985.

[@mrJimCharles]

Everybody wishes that

[@EvLopez-u7z]

Cetera had a very “distinctive vocal tone” that made him so special in my opinion as a musician. But it was GREAT when Jason at the age of 23 joined the band and to be honest… his distinctive voice was uniquely special and his style was amazing following Cetera’s footsteps 🎼🎸❣️

[@susanreid9789]

Love, love, Bill!!!!

[@alansewell7810]

Robert Lamm's all-time best piano solo. I would like to see him do an album of piano solo interpretations of his songs.

[@prokastinatore]

Are you serious man? Listen to Herbie Hancock, Chic Chorea or Robert Glaser, if you wanna listen to solo pianists. Mr. Lamm is a pretty good musician and composer but not a pianist.

[@VICEvsVIRTUE]

Great quality - thank you!

[@aniskywalker93]

Thanks for this! Full show!

[@don4476]

I saw this version of Chicago in Kansas.

[@twinpeakswithoutthemagic]

Ahh damn. I’m green with envy then. I wasn’t even born until 1985 when Peter had left.

[@mikeolson7296]

Omg I was at th😅s concert! REO Speedwagon, Tom Petty, Chicago, and more!

[@twinpeakswithoutthemagic]

What an amazing lineup, that would have been great. This video has gone viral in the past few weeks, got so many comments on it recently.

[@justatalismanpassingby4106]

Cool to see Lee playing acoustic guitar.

[@trancosomarcus]

So rare! Thanks

[@Beanrock124]

39:04 Hard to Say I’m Sorry / Get Away one of my favorite live versions there is!

[@twinpeakswithoutthemagic]

It’s the only song I can play of theirs every time and not get sick of it. Thank you man 👌

[@TonyGMusic]

A few months before I saw the band for the first time in Toronto ...

[@twinpeakswithoutthemagic]

That would have been amazing Tony.

[@TonyGMusic]

@@twinpeakswithoutthemagic It was ... pretty well the same setlist. A treat to see Cetera and Seraphine in the band, although I never got to see Terry Kath.

[@twinpeakswithoutthemagic]

@TonyGMusic Yes I think Jason Scheff is very talented but Chicago were a different page with Peter and Danny. Terry Kath was a big part of their early sound.

[@GeneKing-lz8xg]

Vintagechicago1982yacantbeatit!!!!❤❤❤❤❤❤😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊

[@Icebear3434]

TOP!!!

[@Chicago_Podcast_Authority]

Except for Bill oversinging every note this was great to see

[@kbrewski1]

I think I saw Chicago in the 80s at a free July 4th concert and Champlin's over singing voice drove me nuts. I didn't see them live again until after he left. Thank God I have my 1976 original 7 concert memories.

[@aprilgosa5779]

he does no such thing its called passion

[@kbrewski1]

@aprilgosa5779 Its called over the top strained horrible sounding "singing". I'd rather listen to your cat caterwaul all day.

[@davidwright9166]

Obvious he over sang everything. You got the job buddy.

[@tonydegiuseppe9484]

And he was finally asked to leave in 2009😅

[@brucep9729]

I also think this piano solo by Robert might have been "stick it to David Foster" damn it I can still play!

[@twinpeakswithoutthemagic]

You simply weren’t there at the time. Without David coming in Chicago would’ve been dropped by a new record label and be stuck playing in lounge bars full of drunk people smoking cigarettes.

[@petedembroski6622]

@@twinpeakswithoutthemagic- Foster may have made them relevant for a short run but he completely put Lamm on ice and handed the reins to Cetera. Lamm always was and still is the sole of the band.

[@twinpeakswithoutthemagic]

@@petedembroski6622 Yeah, I thought it was shitty how he effectively blindsided him and made it a Peter Cetera and David Foster record. And I know Peter is adamant that it was for the best and it was just a bunch of “shit songs” but I don’t think they really gave Robert a chance to write on that record. Interestingly, even Danny says that the band was falling apart by then. But weirdly no one mentions “Sonny Think Twice” which was a song they wrote and demoed before David Foster was even there, and it’s not bad at all.

[@petedembroski6622]

Pinnick got boned also. Didn’t fit the “look”0f the ‘80’s. Closest thing to Kath they ever had

[@twinpeakswithoutthemagic]

@@petedembroski6622 Ohh man, because to them he was only a session player and touring guitarist, and that’s shitty. I still get a buzz every time I hear his solo in “Hard to Say I’m Sorry”.

[@cahyoh.harimurti8554]

Great!!!

[@pierceelyhibionada342]

Chris!!!!

[@LoyalOpposition]

Did he really get kicked out because he was overweight? He was the best guitarist they've had since Terry. And from everything I've read, he seemed like a very easygoing guy who didn't seek the spotlight, and was always punctual, professional, friendly.

[@Nacios007]

That's terrible! Didn't know.@@LoyalOpposition

[@waltersimmons946]

​​@Nacios007 Chris was kicked out because he DIDN'T SING. Terry Kath was very overweight before he took his life there are many photos and live concerts that confirm my points. He was very unhappy in the band Chicago and was poised to be the first member to leave . Terry even had music written for a solo career. Terry also wanted NO HORNS in his music 9:49 .

[@kbrewski1]

Why does the list of songs leave out If You Leave Me? And surely they didn't start with that tune? This is about the time I got off the Chicago bus. I had seen the original 7 in fall 1976 and I will always cherish those memories.

[@twinpeakswithoutthemagic]

It’s been years since I played the concert video in full, so I can’t quite remember if the song is featured besides the heavily edited version they put at the start.

[@mrJimCharles]

​@@twinpeakswithoutthemagicyes it comes later they just show that snippet of it at the beginning

[@Bls-of1ld]

They played it ..its here

[@artvandelay8090]

I've never heard Bill Champlain sing Chicago songs without totally butchering them.

[@twinpeakswithoutthemagic]

Ouch. I admit I didn’t like his voice initially listening to his early songs with Chicago.

[@kbrewski1]

Yep. Never liked Champlin's strained way of singing.

[@artvandelay8090]

@@kbrewski1 Right, it's just terrible, plus,. he's the wrong style, he sings like a twangy country/western singer. - And he goes over the top trying to scream out these high falsetto ad libs, and he gets all snarled up just wailing out stuff that doesn't fit. The made a big mistake bringing him into the band.

[@headbandbybrianlundeen3132]

I used to be critical of the liberties Champlin took with his vocals but now I love every note he chooses. I think of him as the new Terry putting that soul on the spot. Priceless.

[@twinpeakswithoutthemagic]

He does alright on most songs but Chicago kinda became a business more than a band after Terry Kath died.

[@Bebe-if5pl]

I like Champlin too but sometimes he over did it with his vocalizations on some songs. In my opinion he messed some of them up big time although he does have a good voice.

[@mattstickle2725]

Yep but he lost his mind with power.. Yes he was instrumental on a couple of hit songs but he thought his sons of champlin was a force to be reckoned with. He had his golden moment, tried to overstep, and they told him to hit the road.

[@prokastinatore]

Bill Champlin doesn’t join the band anymore.

[@beatapt5]

I liked Champlin. BUT, he absolutely butchered Colour My World.

[@twinpeakswithoutthemagic]

Noticed a lot of people commenting don’t like Bill Champlin’s singing much haha.

[@fortheloveofgoodmusic..4549]

mmmmm… Anybody who knows me, knows that I love Chicago. … but when I watch this , something’s just … missing 🤔

[@twinpeakswithoutthemagic]

Are we talking about Terry Kath? God rest his soul.

[@brucep9729]

Yes, Terry😢

[@twinpeakswithoutthemagic]

@@brucep9729 Everybody loved Terry, especially Peter and Danny. Sadly he was on the wrong path and it led to his premature death. And like most bands that are destroyed by grief but ultimately decide to carry on, it became more of a business than a band as years went on. I’ve seen many bands do it, especially the likes of Queen, AC/DC, INXS, New Order etc. and they all turn into soulless cash cow bands. A few exceptions would be Alice In Chains, Stone Temple Pilots and Metallica.

[@kathrynyanetta2809]

I beg your pardon I never promised you a ROSE GARDENN

[@brucep9729]

I thought Robert looked pretty good here, not all coked up like him and Peter did in a prevous concert for '79 i saw

[@tooter1able]

Pinnick was great. Why gone?

[@twinpeakswithoutthemagic]

I think he may have signed a three record contract and parted ways afterwards.

[@kbrewski1]

I never even heard of Pinnick.Which one is he? I was pretty much done by 1980 w Chicago because I don't recognize some of these guys.

[@mrJimCharles]

​@@kbrewski1Pinnick is the guitar player

[@gordonellis4756]

Chains must be the most unusual Chicago song ever. Serious Champlin guitar shredding.

[@pierceely1197]

I wonder why Bill didn't become the lead guitarist, he's real good considering his main thing is the keyboards.

[@Eighties_Child]

Forget Champlin, whose main instrument is the organ/keyboard. What about CHRIS PINNICK, who was the heir apparent to Terry Kath?! Dude could shred like nobody's business. Chicago was insane to let him go!

[@pierceely1197]

@Eighties_Child I Agree though, i wonder how would they sound like if he had stayed around.

[@waltersimmons946]

​@@pierceely1197Champlin in an interview years ago said he didn't think he was a good enough guitarist to fill Terry's shoes but later upon joining the band to sing Terry's songs he said he was comfortable with doing that though he plays guitar and keyboards

[@waltersimmons946]

​​​@@Eighties_ChildThe reason they let Chris Pinnick go was a very stupid reason 👉 It was because he didn't sing . Notice later how Dwayne Bailey and Keith Howland sang the high parts in the background over Scheffs voice ?? I'll leave it there.😮 29:32 30:14

[@lamarravery4094]

When Robert sang Scrapbook, it seems like he was on coke. I think he hadn't kicked the habit at that point yet.

[@mattalan5025]

Color my world sounds like FLUSH My World. Awful! Too bad!! Especially when the horn section is so tight.

[@twinpeakswithoutthemagic]

The amount of people I get in the comments talking shit about that song lol. It must be bad I guess.

[@psychodelicrock12]

Fender should have made a signature guitar of Bill Champlin and Chris Pinnick.

[@twinpeakswithoutthemagic]

Why would they care? Seriously, they’d probably laugh and ask how much money does Chicago make in a year.

[@j.c.ortega1313]

I love Bill but he destroyed Colour My World. That was horrible. Lee does a much better job singing it now.

[@LoyalOpposition]

Bill always destroyed this song.. Robert sings it the best, and his voice has deepened a bit, and can sing all of Terry's songs, and also sings "Introduction" very well.

[@Gem0674]

I think he sang it perfectly! ❤

[@pauli6043]

Lamm's voice is in bad shape now. He turns 80 this year, it's crazy

[@pocopico7409]

Man, Peter Cetera was always my favorite in this band but he looked absolutely awful during this period! It was the period where he decided to get “healthy“ and he lost way too much weight and he looked halfway gay with the way he started dressing. And what is with his awful hairstyle here?😬

[@lamarravery4094]

Peter was in good shape here, he was the focal point, the lead singer, but I agree he needed a new hairdo here.

[@waltersimmons946]

Cetera quit the booze and drugs . You should've seen his hair around 1980 😂😂😂. The main thing is important is that Cetera got it together and his songwriting/singing did save the bands careers along with David Foster.

[@waltersimmons946]

Speaking of his hairdo . Ceteras hairdo during the 1980 CHICAGO XIV period really cracked me up. ​@lamarravery4094

[@markteboe4757]

But I bet PC got way more chicks during that time period with Chicago than you got in your entire lifetime!

[@pocopico7409]

@@markteboe4757: Well I hope not, since this was in 1982…which was the year he got married.