I bought my DM570s for £80 the other week, best money I've spent on speakers for years tbf..
@АлексейПетрович-е9ъ5 жыл бұрын
Такие корзины в Совке есчо 30 лет назад делали, начиная с пресловутых 10гд30, 25гд26 итд... Хотя, диффузоры очень качественные... Мне лично, звук кевлара не нравится, картонный какой то (чисто субъективно). Автору большой респект👍 за то что показал из чего на самом деле сделаны хваленые B&W, сразу видно, что проектировщики экономили где только могли, не дай бог пол пенни переплатить!😁😁😁 Но в целом аккуратно!👍👍👍 Хотя и по дешмански🤔
@socksumi4 жыл бұрын
"Bowers and Wilkins" changed to B&W in 1970 after Wilkins parted from the company after the first year. Wilkins was merely a business man who had nothing to do with the design or much of anything else. It was John Bowers ran the show as president and head designer for several decades. Bowers is now parted but he never intended that B&W should go back to using the original name they stopped using 50 years ago.
@ike7539 Жыл бұрын
good info, i had no idea
@faithless88885 жыл бұрын
I still use a pair of B&W DM580 tower speakers. They are from 1989, but still sound amazing! The buildquality on them is really good! Even after all these years, the rubber surrounds of the low frequency drivers, are still in superb condition! I could never get tired of those speakers! :-). If you have B&W speakers which are from the original factory in Worthing England, you just know you’re solid! :-D
@notagunfreak81465 жыл бұрын
nice, i got the dm 560, that is the same speaker minus 1 8 inch, so 1 8 inch and 1 tweeter instead of the 2 8's. i love them also
@faithless88885 жыл бұрын
notagunfreak nice indeed! :-)
@unDeadPiksel5 жыл бұрын
I have got the same speakers and DM601 as well. I just didnt liked the color of the speakers in DM580 so i painted them with black ink for stamps. They look great now. My friends just cant beleive they are from 90's.
@differentname80515 жыл бұрын
I got the dm2 from 1975 that sound sublime
@notagunfreak81465 жыл бұрын
@REAL TRUTH fuck off man. All that made in china bullshit. Not everything thats made in china is bad. For example Definitive technology, klipsch, svs (ultra's) all of them are being made in china. Also EVERY COMPONENT in ANY speaker that is from 1995 - 2019 is made in china. So please stop with the china bullshit. Before china you had japan, they made good and great products they also made like 60 % of all audio products. Just stop with nonsense please.
@tomislavukraden41512 жыл бұрын
That solid metal ring around the mid/woofer is made of magnesium. I can't remember now why the engineers at B&W chose that particular shape and material, but it's not because of a nicer look (maybe just a little) :) Btw, I bought a new pair of DM601's in 1997, sold them around 2003, and found them last year in the third owner's garage. They worked hard for more than ten years in his hard rock cafe. They were in poor condition, so he gave them to me for €30. I spent several times more money and work to get them in decent condition, but I have no regrets. They are now connected to a 1980' Yamaha CR-440 receiver and they are matching nicely.
@englishsteve14655 жыл бұрын
For all those who are knocking these speakers, don't forget that they were budget speakers when new in mid 1990's. Sure the cabs are thin and the x- overs cheap but the drivers are pretty good. I used to have a pair,sounded great for the price. You can pick them up now for £50 and as such they are a massive bargain. I would take the x- overs out of the cab and fix it to the back of the box, put some cheap bitchumin pads, of the type used for sound deadening on car panels on the inside surfaces of the box and on the backs of the magnets and the legs of the bass drivers frame. Make an MDF or wood brace to go across from one inside surface of the box to the other, just to stiffen it up. Total cost of improvements - maybe £5 for the sound deadening panels and a scrap bit of MDF for a brace. Better than most new speakers up to say £250.
@kildogery2 жыл бұрын
I've been putting off, replacing a dented tweeter for about a year now, but you make disassembly look easy. Thanks
@Boorock705 жыл бұрын
Love your "A Look Inside" videos... Very informative & Thank you for making these videos. Just keep going !
@marekhdsoftail95262 жыл бұрын
Díky za video konečně vím jak je rozdělat bez problémů
@tee-jaythestereo-bargainph21205 жыл бұрын
I took my Polk Audio Lsim 703 completly apart because they sounded so good , no one else took the 703 all the way apart the 703 has inch and a half total depth of mdf board and real cherry wood 2 huge crossovers one for woofer one for midrange and tweeter lots of bracing and inside the speaker is a spliter 6 inches back with all kinds of sound damping material even the speaker wire inside was doubled shielded no wonder they was 1500US new polk didnt skimp anywhere i caught them on EOR sale for 450.00Us best deal i ever got !
@sumdood2035 Жыл бұрын
Are these foam or rubber surrounds? You'd think foam would have rotted apart long ago.
@chrisb58385 жыл бұрын
Probably the last entry level B&W series made in the UK, had the dm602,601,center chanel and a asw sub about 15 years ago sounded great can handle serious volume! lets see some late model B&W import internals lol .
@djijspeakerguy462811 ай бұрын
My set of B&W DM303, made in March of 2002, were made in England. I say, those were probably truly the last product before production moved to China on the entry level products. Mine are decidedly less robust than these, being probably the most entry-level product B&W ever produced. The woofer frames and front panels are plastic, but again, that’s less likely to ring than metal. Tweeters are quite robust, being the 1 inch metal domes with the nautilus tube thing on the back. Sides of the box are MDF, and the back is extremely thick particle board. They have the “flow port” on the back, but they are not bi-wired. Also of note, the woofer cones are black “woven glass fibre” instead of the yellow Kevlar. I think the crossover on mine looks similar to the one in these.
@Pityssakes4 ай бұрын
Hi. I can see that the visible cap is 4u7F, but can anyone tell me the value of the covered one, please? And, why are Electrolytics used instead of Polyester? Thanks :-)
@hi-fihaven22575 жыл бұрын
Hey thank you for posting this, great video! I have a pair of these, and love them. Really cool to see how they are built. Very nice quality built speakers.
@frankfarago28253 жыл бұрын
Nice? Compared to what?
@hi-fihaven22573 жыл бұрын
@@frankfarago2825 Trolling a 2 year old comment? Doesn't need to be compared to anything.
@sharky33333333333333 Жыл бұрын
I have these speakers and the rubber around the yellow cone is starting to deconstructed, can i change it? is there any part number? thank you.
@HomeTheatre101 Жыл бұрын
Perfect time for new Electrolytic Caps, After 10-15 years they change values, which changes the crossover points and could end up sending bass to the tweeter destroying it!
@fadhlulazzam50194 жыл бұрын
Love B&W..the best British speaker. Its hard others speaker to compete with B&W
@chaosextreme76375 жыл бұрын
А что с передней стенкой? Для такой компании не позволительно делать такое
@iampuzzleman2824 жыл бұрын
These have Bigger speakers, and in many ways these older speakers are better than the newer models - ie. 700 series. Thoughts? Thanks.
@truthfinder68794 жыл бұрын
It would have been better if you would have mentioned the box mesurement as well.
@a0r0a75 жыл бұрын
Great video as always. Nice speakers for the money. Quality drivers but don't let the audiophiles see the internal wiring 😂
@dotita15 жыл бұрын
Yes, the wiring is not ideal, thin cables without soldering to the speaker. The crossover seems to be cheap too. The walls could be thicker. But the basket of the mid/bass seems to be good enough, not the thin sheet steel
@a0r0a75 жыл бұрын
@@dotita1 totally agree. MDF surprisingly thin. Crossover using basic components and spade connectors to the drivers. Mid Bass driver looks reasonable. Much improvement could be had by focusing on those areas. Not sure what these retailed for? Like many modern products these days, sold on name rather than true talent of the product.
@themafia31195 жыл бұрын
@@a0r0a7 i think these speakers were from 1997? I think that's when i bought mine. Then from these i jumped to the s3's which were also nice. I still have the 604 s3's in beautiful condition just stored away.
@a0r0a75 жыл бұрын
@@themafia3119 I am sure they sound very nice. Punchy and detailed. At least you have another pair to fall back on should you need to.
@a0r0a75 жыл бұрын
@FuegoCruzadoLatino I am afraid I don't know the exact price but in 2000 they were around £250
@Andrewatnanz3 жыл бұрын
If I replace the woofers with some Bose that I have, does it now become a Bose & Wilkens speaker ?
@symsyhq3 жыл бұрын
Very useful , if tweeter not working , any ideas how to check if its cross over or the tweeters? The rest of speaker works fine still , thanks , any simple test? I m no expert but have multimeter .
@matzi3035 жыл бұрын
Super Video. Vielen Dank!
@victorbikov75805 жыл бұрын
Ну и дровааа( спасибо что показали
@clintonschubert50915 жыл бұрын
Good speakers
@yvesboutin56045 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised that B&W put substandard parts in their crossovers! They must be trying to save on parts to keep prices low because of the competition.
@jasonahdjfhsdfg4 жыл бұрын
I’ve got a pair of DM3s from the 60s and DM2As from the 70s, crossovers are so much better quality as are the cabinets and drivers. It’s a shame how modern stuff is so poorly built. Wasn’t long ago B&W were known for quality, it seems they are really looking to build speakers to a cheap level and rely on the name they once had.
@marktuyet3 жыл бұрын
Still rockin' my 602 S2 B&W speakers and really enjoy them . Wish I never saw this because they look cheaply built even though they sound nice .
@tech4life8842 жыл бұрын
This speaker was made for the Black Friday shopping season in 1996. Lol. According to the date on the speakers.
@gabeeedition4 жыл бұрын
Thonet and Vander copy?
@harrothepilot5 жыл бұрын
A very good video, thankyou for posting. Always look forward to your ' Look's Inside '.
@mimoshwarring14325 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video Nicely shown every thing
@jamesminor12023 жыл бұрын
When i see you disassembly this one. i realise that the reputation of speakers doesn't deserve .
@Andrewatnanz3 жыл бұрын
Why? How should it be made?
@jamesminor12023 жыл бұрын
@@Andrewatnanz Material of this speaker is so cheap. But they sell it on expensive cost.
@materusendic48965 жыл бұрын
I have those same speakers i love them but mines are in not that good condition they have replaced tweeters which are not as good
@englishsteve14655 жыл бұрын
Mate Rusendic - They can be picked up very cheaply these days (£50/$55) and the drivers are good quality for what they cost when new. Massive bargain at that kind of money, even up to £100 is still good. The beat speaker from that era though is the Heybrook HB1, if you see these cheap grab them quick, any audiophile will tell you how fab they were and still are. I really regret selling mine, better than the £600 Kef I have now in many ways !
@gemetcetera4 жыл бұрын
hey i have these how do you plug or connect them to anything pls someone help
@chicagomen014 жыл бұрын
ebay.to/3niJ089
@venturarodriguezvallejo15675 жыл бұрын
Nice video soundtrack! If these B&W sound better in reality (that is: without KZbin limits), they are great value loudspeakers, indeed.
@666Necropsy4 жыл бұрын
thank you for showing the best part. the crossover. that tells me everything i need to know.
@linkdude644 жыл бұрын
Building your own?
@666Necropsy4 жыл бұрын
@@linkdude64 this shows me what im paying for. they could use a bit better electric components in the crossover.
@PavelUrusov4 жыл бұрын
This is an extremely cheap and simple crossover, one might even call it "primitive". Very surprising considering the nice quality of the cabinet and drivers, the woofer with its cast basket and large magnet must be rather expensive to manufacture.
@vallalc11924 жыл бұрын
Excellent sir
@blarkdexture88995 жыл бұрын
These are 25 years old and was about 200 pounds new then. Budget speakers.
@paulkennedy2675 Жыл бұрын
I have 2 pairs of 601's, quality of sound from them is still impressive & recreates an era of music modern speakers cant replicate.
@fernandogomes45854 жыл бұрын
What is the name of the songs in the video?
@chrisvinicombe99475 жыл бұрын
That's the woofers I'm using in my speakers. They have very nice midrange but bass transient performance isn't great.
@RBS225 жыл бұрын
I love these b & w speakers with stud cone, they are beautiful and well built.😎👍What's the name of the first song?
@djverhulst5 жыл бұрын
a lot of plastic, and the speaker cabinet itself has been made cheaper than I thought.
@lifeisneverthesame9105 жыл бұрын
Titanium is a great choice..
@tomfrank27075 жыл бұрын
I've always been a fan of the 800 series' sound and of course the build quality. Not sure what these in this video would retail for, but based on my impression of the build, they better not be more than $400/pair. Cabinet doesn't even have any internal bracing, and as others have already said, the wiring and components used in the crossover look cheap. I think there are many other newer brands nowadays that would sound better, have better construction, and cost less. From what I can see, the only thing quality about these are the drivers.
@Jeschitown5 жыл бұрын
Anyone know where I can get some grill covers for these series speakers? I've had mine for over a decade still sound perfect
@eirikwang61025 жыл бұрын
yeah i have 2 extra
@miguelacorca-mig67925 жыл бұрын
Y have a B&W DM 604... damaged.
@ДмитрийПростой-ф6х5 жыл бұрын
странно что используют поролон а не как в других моделях синтепон :\
@miguelacorca-mig67925 жыл бұрын
Now have a 803 Diamond.
@ford15465 жыл бұрын
It is made too many not so good speakers! It doesn't help if you have good bass / nidrange to treble if you don't have good crossover. The factory does not spend much time on the crossover and then it does not help how good speakers you put in. the crossover in many speakers is not so good! the crossover must be carefully matched to the speaker
@ganeshgovindarajan63595 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/pH6Xn5mropJlqK8
@elvinechevarria80795 жыл бұрын
I have the same speakers very nice.
@KocuRisko5 жыл бұрын
That crossover is cheap. Both capacitors are electrolythic, which is the worst possible type of cap for a crossover. But it's the cheapest one, of course. Coil placement on the PCB is also very bad, coils will be affecting each other. Thanks for the video!
@edjackson43895 жыл бұрын
I used to think the same thing, but I have ran into a couple of tweeters (both vintage horns) that sound a little smoother and warmer with electrolytic.
@KocuRisko5 жыл бұрын
@@edjackson4389 yeah well, my opinion is that HiFi should be about being true to the source. That's why I don't use electrolytic caps in tweeter section of my crossovers and why I don't use lamp amps.
@edjackson43895 жыл бұрын
@@KocuRisko To each his own ridiculousness.
@sandyshoremann75245 жыл бұрын
Even my entry Boston CR8 have poly cap on the tweeter. But hey it's a $299 dollar a pair speaker. Built to a price point. I'Il take Wharfdale Diamond 10.1 over Blower and Whistlin's DM601 - Sandy
@edjackson43895 жыл бұрын
@@sandyshoremann7524 I love Wharfdale anything! If they choose to go with electrolytic caps I'm not gonna argue with them. Poly vs electrolytic kind of reminds me of the synthetic vs conventional motor oil arguments in the automotive world. Cars ran hundreds of thousands of miles for almost 100 years on conventional motor oil. Now these days people consider it crap just because they heard synthetic is better. Its ridiculous
@RobertKohut5 жыл бұрын
Nice!!
@marcinandrzej90245 жыл бұрын
I Love Bowers Wilkins
@alonsochavez41295 жыл бұрын
very nice video... thanks.
@garyhunkin4 жыл бұрын
Good attention to detail aesthetically. Look inside though and it is built to price. That crossover is shockingly made and cheap. The box is horrendous. Why the huge slot hole in the front covered by plastic..
@matrempit28855 жыл бұрын
My goodness......its very simple a crossover...!
@janfric15075 жыл бұрын
Simple does not mean bad :)
@shredder8074 жыл бұрын
Jan Fric But it is also cheap, so in this case it’s kinda shit.
@MrsZambezi3 жыл бұрын
@@shredder807 Not necessarily.
@fireninja24x4 жыл бұрын
anyone know a good amp and cheap amp for this? Around $40-$60
@AROTTWEILERR5 жыл бұрын
solid metal as opposed to what, hollow metal?????
@djijspeakerguy46284 жыл бұрын
Plastic.
@realflow1005 жыл бұрын
pole piece vent blocked by label. lmao wow quality is not there
@seluj69215 жыл бұрын
the woofers dont have magnet venting. i have the same speakers
@panblue435 жыл бұрын
Hi! The video is great! But: the midbass driver and the tweeter are great... The cheap plastic front plate, the cheap wires and low quality electric caps and plastic screwed terminals not the best at a B&W loudspeaker. I like older pieces in the brand...modern new series sucks.
@alonsochavez41295 жыл бұрын
waooo.. amaizing drivers
@stanislavp22445 жыл бұрын
Обидно что бренды с историей делают такой продукт, здесь нормальные только динамики
@randomguydoes29013 жыл бұрын
I got the first revision of these and boy are they shit. The bass drivers are excellent for a small near-field subwoofer, hence why I switched them for eachother. The treble? Well better have these 10 meters away from you or they cut your ears like a laser. Sounds good for half a minute before you get tired of it and turn that shit off. Canton GL-260 sound a lot better, just not as loud or deep bass, but these have jack shit against floorspeakers anyway, and even then you need a billion watts to push any volume with their sensitivity of -99999 dB/W unlike the cantons which sound good from the first watt. This is why I award these the most overrated speakers I've ever had.
@vanoanguyen43742 жыл бұрын
doi nay may tien
@warlockboyburns4 жыл бұрын
why are you tearing it apart? You want to replicate it or something??
@АрташКурдоглян5 жыл бұрын
Нужны пищалки на 602, куплю.
@PrinceFluffy5 жыл бұрын
Look like they cost about £5:50 to make....
@Mickparrysstepdad4 жыл бұрын
Compared these to Kef Coda 8 in the mid 90s and the Kefs blew them away.
@FrightfulAccountant5 жыл бұрын
Hmm I was expecting more from B&W. Looks more like a Cerwin Vega speaker with ugraded drivers.
@harpalchauhan4284 жыл бұрын
Why can't they put that extra touch of decent cable inside just looks like live and negative power cable lol. I'd pay that extra £20 or £30 for that finish inside fuck even £50 speakers not cheap anyway won't kill you. Just shows class from start to finish. SMH
@Alex-Paganini9 ай бұрын
Из видоса видно,что это бюджетка...
@tyeman30394 жыл бұрын
That’s it? $600 for what?
@theaylesburycyclist87568 ай бұрын
I hav deez speekerz
@StragaSevera-ArLeg5 жыл бұрын
Какое плохое качество (
@yeshuamashiaj51264 жыл бұрын
LA VERDAD A MI NO ME GUSTA SU SONIDO Y SU TECNOLOGÍA ES MUY ANTIGUA, NO TIENE NADA QUE OFRECER Y SU COSTO EN MÉXICO ES MUY CARA, SU RELACIÓN COSTO BENEFICIO DEJA MUCHO QUE DESEAR. VI QUE ALGUIEN CRÍTICO A UNAS PCB Y ESTAS LAS CONSIDERO MEJORES EN MUCHOS SENTIDOS Y EN PRECIO ES MAS ECONÓMICA QUE LAS B&W Y CON MAYOR EQUILIBRIO ENTRE GRAVES Y AGUDOS. LOS INGLESES NORMALMENTE SUS EQUIPOS SON CON ALTOS NIVELES DE AGUDOS. TODO VA EN FUNCIÓN DEL OÍDO PARA ESCUCHAR LA MÚSICA
@edward_vetrov5 жыл бұрын
No 500$, no
@waynepollard6879 Жыл бұрын
No dialogue !
@blackdaan8 ай бұрын
omfg normal caps XD
@Colnago16135 жыл бұрын
The real price of the English garbage is € 50 for a pair. Crossover unit without foil capacitors and coils winded roughly. Since I listened to them, it is not worth 50 €. 100W a good joke.....
@MrsZambezi3 жыл бұрын
Point out some superior Serbian speakers for the money. The inductors are fine. Later versions used film caps, better than electrolytics because they don't deteriorate with age. There are many classic expensive speakers that used electrolytics.
@Colnago16133 жыл бұрын
@@MrsZambezi facebook.com/groups/2626481714109749/members......On this forum you will be able to find my projects, my lab as well as some tests with pictures of the projects. I’ve been making speakers for a little over 40 years. In one of the pictures, I am next to the speakers that won the self-construction fair and are estimated at € 300,000......I am from Croatia!
@MrsZambezi3 жыл бұрын
@@Colnago1613 That page is missing.
@sundaru15 жыл бұрын
What are you expecting from inside of this simple speaker dude ....are you surprised and thought that you spend too much for this simple cross over ? LoL
@rn27344 жыл бұрын
стрёмная конструкция
@mare2785 жыл бұрын
LF driver 8ohm, HF driver 4ohm.... Funny!
@JoJanDiezel4 жыл бұрын
Cabinets and crossover are really cheap...
@Denito_legal4 жыл бұрын
Hm.....looks cheap. The crossover is a joke...
@soundart97024 жыл бұрын
plastic!! Poor us
@ПользовательскоеСоглашение4 жыл бұрын
Чето фирмОй и не попахивает даже, скорее тухлячок..
@galesd19715 жыл бұрын
toys
@henker3725 жыл бұрын
Все это говно походу делают на одном китайском заводе.
@dj_paultuk70525 жыл бұрын
Too much talking, I had to mute it...….
@Женяженек-т1о5 жыл бұрын
Я такой бред не когда не видел .😊
@Русский_Мыслитель5 жыл бұрын
Хуйня, а не колонка.♡
@MMSound-zl4eo5 жыл бұрын
И сколько стоит такое дерьмо?
@macinasek100005 жыл бұрын
only crystal acustic
@jpsabbey5 жыл бұрын
Just get Elac and enjoy life !!!
@MrsZambezi3 жыл бұрын
Or Bowers!
@520Trance4 жыл бұрын
感觉好垃圾
@andyo44625 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! Hmm.. but, unfortunately, what I see here is cheap shit, sorry. Mid bass driver is okay, but all the rest is just garbage. Sorry for being uncompromised.