Chieftain Reborn!

[@Pedram_Aphotic]

PohX wanna know your location

[@WH4TSHISN4ME]

He already knows it. They spoke before they both did there videos.

[@thangnofuture]

While pohx is known for rf cuz he plays it every league, we all know the better player is chapy lancy

[@Grippeh]

WeirdChamp ​@@thangnofuture

[@cazperw3557]

Every single char now:; HUUUUA HUUU HUUEEEEE HUAAAA HUUU HUEEEE HUUUU

[@VoyKarma]

This is literally why i avoid warcry builds its so fkin annoying lol.

[@FrankenKarn]

my favorite part of this comment was the option to translate this to English lol

[@AndThenShwarmaAfter]

@@FrankenKarnlmfao fr

[@despairge]

Blade Vortex Chieftain Pog

[@akn3207]

Please!! I had a great league exploding the screen in previous league

[@TheModdedwarfare3]

2x blade vortex berserker with sione forbidden jewels 🤯

[@unknownexile7956]

Too bad rage and berserk nerfed no movement speed anymore😢

[@trilegiance3446]

@@unknownexile7956 Unless you take the mastery

[@AnDrExRuLeZ]

I'm not even playing POE atm, but man, for all the good vids, all the work, cmon, i'll come back to poe one day and enjoy any build that you creat and xplain. Regards from Brasil my man

[@marksutherlandjr.2121]

Remember Gentleman, this is just the good stuff that he is gifting the YT community. We all KNOW the mad scientist has a few tucked away for 3.25.

[@Stridshorn]

Of course this is blatant misdirection, the words ‘The Traitor Keystone’ were not spolen!

[@AklyonX]

​@@StridshornTraitor Keystone being hidden by the Tincture Mob

[@rhettorical]

I'm sad that we won't be able to full shift phys to ele but I'm still gonna start RF Chieftain because I live for Hinekora booms.

[@Billy4321able]

The Eternal Apple is going to go so hard now.

[@gehirndoper]

Oh, that's great. I was thinking about building a HoT autobomber with all that base crit, but of course pressing buttons would've been bad. Eternal Apple solves that. Get say 3 min and 4 max endurance charges, enduring composure and you're all set.

[@banishedbr]

been some time since last warcry with apple, i think it was the titan chad when you could perma stun bosses =D and triple your height

[@Sherudons]

Yeah I saw the infinite warcry power node and went, I guess I am making a slammer chieftain.. also with the return of penance brand I might even get to try the explody man. I just loaded up the new tree and feel like some maths, coffee and frustration.

[@mariomcp]

Very curious to see a slam build from you!

[@ceckoangelov7449]

Path of infused endurance 💪

[@vicdasick29]

Just a comment on the war cry buff effect and the enduring cry regen. I was doing some testing (on POB) and it seems that the buff effect is applied to the 2% before it is multiplied by power. With the way poe rounding down works it seems you need 50% buff effect to push enduring cry to the next break point....not sure if its intended or not but that is the way it shows up on POB atm.

[@mike_purple]

epic vid man got my rf chief to lvl100 in necropolis, looking forward u starting him this league so i can yoink some of ur knowledge on this matter

[@ZwrP]

all these buffs affect allies too, a warcry based minion build would go so hard into being a "chieftain" lol.

[@khiljaz9245]

For warCrying out load... this patch is massive!

[@deveyous6614]

I saw the new league video the other day, with the massive melee rebalancing etc and all I could think about was the insane builds youll be making haha

[@ricksticksgaming]

Really good ideas. Thanks for sharing CaptainLance9!

[@S3frog]

I think there's potential in using the eternal apple and socketing seismic cry and abyssal cry. You could then use enduring cry and some passive endurance charge generation to trigger the warcries at full power. The Mob Mentality notable (cluster jewels) comes to mind.

[@Scyzzles]

Chieftain stood out to me as well as a warcry fan. Probably gonna league start General's Cry and leave room open to play around with all the different warcry stuff. Plus Rage and Valour generation on cries for a mastery each, yes please. I just hope the wording of "Enemy power" isn't there to forestall that free Rage generation.

[@blurpleshark]

i'm looking to try a Dominating blow chieftain and buff them using warcries

[@mel27853]

Id really like to do Righteous Fire also. Would love to see a pob or video for it if youre doing that

[@kevintram1207]

Pohx and captain lance collaboration gogogo

[@KnightMaresX]

love to see people like you who explain stuff with numbers and logic ,do you think armour stacking Chieftain will be OP??.

[@grimmjowthepantera]

I play volcanic fissure of snaking soooo hard holy, this changes my Chief going buffed holy ! ♥

[@kaydenvortex1984]

burning arrow of vigour is looking very juicy this league

[@que5650]

Here's the question tho, is Relic of the Pact possible/good? 👁👁

[@CaptainLance9]

Relic got very solidly buffed with just kaom's change and flat life on various gear pieces

[@lavq7000]

Lance you won't even need to use the two warcries all the time. The new "call to arms" can support multiple warcries now and wont make them share a cooldown. It will cost some mana reservation but I think it may be worth it for the cozyness. Also no charges from enduring cry if you use it with this new support.

[@valjohnson7112]

With that you don’t get the benefit of the war cries. It only gives you the exerted attacks not the shout powers. 😣

[@lavq7000]

@@valjohnson7112 oh god. Thank you for the correction I was tired when reading that lol

[@mikevakoff8330]

Hm... haven't played last league and a bit rusty on my theorycrafting... but with all that life regen and Warcry Buffs... could Energy Blade-Ivory Tower + Zealot's Oath Chieftain be a thing? Or am i missing out on too much dmg compared to Inquisitor? Should be tanky as fck, only problem would be the damage.

[@jwdubz7]

Energy blade pennance brand sanctum farmer still viable for 3.25

[@Vulgaels]

I am sad that 90% PDR is gone:( enduring cry was essential, funny that Transcendance was killed. However enduring charge stacker can become immune to all elemental damage now....

[@slyace1301]

I can almost see your face, could you turnoff lights on the back too lmao

[@midknightcrisis8612]

I'm just sad that the enduring cry changes killed the trauma stackers i built and had in mind to build again bc now getting 90% PDR without armor has become unrealistic :(

[@n0mad602]

That's some huuge copium tank for RF right there😂god bless

[@spaycen]

ahh a fellow f.lux user

[@Azarath26]

Hi, do you think there is an update needed for an energy blade inq league starter? I have high hopes for this build.

[@CaptainLance9]

I will be doing an updated guide for it, i think itll be one of the best possible league starters

[@Azarath26]

@@CaptainLance9 you're the bestest ;) thanks for your reply.

[@Ruzzy23]

10/10 for the thumbnail 😂

[@benc2789]

You do know they added Autoexertion support which reserves warcries to repeatedly trigger them

[@mosssnake]

Yeah…. Except that auto exertion disables the warcries buffs and charges. Which ruins the whole point. It’s unfortunate that chieftain warcries is power balanced by being super obnoxious to play. I hate when annoyance is used as a lever of game balancing.

[@vi8799]

Is it a big deal if Red banner shield exists? Overall warcry buffs are insanely strong, I see them as auras replacement now.

[@kitterrell7461]

It is a big deal for quite a few build concepts. Red blade is an easy way to get this going but sacrifices a ton of offensive power that you can get from 2hander attack or 1h+shield/2hander caster setups. Outside of the warcry stuff redblade banner has pretty mediocre stats and so this tech for chieftain specifically along with the new warcry effects is pretty amazing.

[@TheTerspet]

but to automate the warcrys and keep them up etc, you have to reserve 30% mana before rmr just for 2 things :/ not sure if worth it

[@CaptainLance9]

Keep in mind the automate now disables charge gen/buffs, it should only be used when the primary use of what you are buffing has exert benefit like intimidating cry for example.

[@TheTerspet]

@@CaptainLance9 oh, that must have slipped by me , havent read that Part :0

[@gabrij12]

the automation gem for warcry still exist ?

[@PraiseTheStun]

Unfortunately not 😢

[@chrisditmi7119]

lol when he said chief rework wasn't good.. I thought he was great... now with this rework chief is unfortunately dead for me because he can only be played as a piano or macro user and neither is an option for me... . and now he likes it :D

[@SWTORDREKKIN]

Exactly - I remember when he said how badly the Chieftain rework a few updates ago was. He ate those words, ended up being super popular and awesome. I also remember he specifically said Hinekora was going to be garbage. LOL, good times. Anyhow, I agree, I don't care how strong this crap is, piano playing isn't for me. Pushing buttons is fine, but pushing buttons every 'X' seconds in sequence is not skill. Ever since the cheiftain rework a few updates ago, I have pretty much only played Chieftain. Was an awesome build. RIP "Call To Arms".

[@Erelyes]

5:33 what does Lance mean that you can play Jugg and 'steal' the chieftain node?

[@justinkyletan81]

Using a forbidden flame and flesh

[@Erelyes]

@@justinkyletan81 gotchya ty

[@TheModdedwarfare3]

It is going to be really annoying to keep the buffs up, especially when you are reading an item or something.

[@rasavadi]

Maybe consecrated path will finally be useful

[@joshchilton2336]

I think I'm going Marauder acendency then Champion as second if good 👍 😁

[@OoLiKeVioLenCeoO]

tbh i dont want to warcry every 10 seconds if i play rf, rf is chill gameplay xd

[@renisrrenis9225]

will you make hexblast miner league starter? 😀

[@JoeSchmoe-oc8kq]

thats alot of words to say you start eb inquis sanctum on friday xddchatting

[@dambofambo8562]

Are you gonna update the EB PoB for this league mister Lance?

[@CaptainLance9]

Yes I will be doing an updated guide for EB

[@dambofambo8562]

@@CaptainLance9 love ya !

[@PersonManGuyDude]

You use Regen warcry to support RF, I use Regen to support Her Embrace, we are not the same.

[@zedoac6037]

chieftain has been great for multiple leagues :/

[@DHAVOS]

And we will get rage out of warcries

[@cashandraven2369]

There were already real builds that could be made but Chieftain was B teir, not great but not bad, this definitely bumps him up to at least A tier, that warcry node is gonna be absolutely dumb.

[@Valkaneer]

Would this make Chieftain an Tectonic Slam Powerhouse? Can you use that infinite warcry power and turn it into damage?

[@valjohnson7112]

It would work great for that…but doing 5 shouts every 10 seconds in between attacks sounds miserable.

[@548Benatti]

eternal appple 📈📈

[@frsm_]

hmm sorry when i play RF Chieftain i dont wanna pianoroll buttons,.. i just wanna zoom and see shit exploding. 🤷‍♂

[@SWTORDREKKIN]

Amen, this is really stupid. Playing this concept of a build is about a stupid as it can get. To get "excited" over pushing buttons in sequence every 'X' seconds is simply busy-work. Not skill. I mean, sure... Whatever floats his boat, but this is just dumb to me.

[@frsm_]

@@SWTORDREKKIN i mean. Rf is notorious for hitting the ceiling regarding DMG very quickly and pushing RF in damage is very tough. I think thats his train of thought. But yeah,.. If i wanna do tonz of DMG, i play Something else. 🤷‍♀️

[@BlackbeardKNAC]

Sounds like the new RF guy is Lance cause Pohx seems completely blackpilled on RF

[@michelsouzapaula]

They took out Call To Arms?

[@Zylosio]

changed it so it can support multiple warcries but it only exerts attacks, not apply the buffs

[@michelsouzapaula]

@@Zylosio sad

[@kakawett8362]

Fire EK here i come

[@MNtoCali]

Slick haircut mang

[@Valkaneer]

Well, the survivabilty is good, but what about the damage?

[@asdadfafafafffallslsldd8068]

It's garbage. Getting good regen and max res was never an issue with the previous chieftain rf either. The chsnges to more max life from gear will raise the rf dmg, but fire trap st dmg will still be atrociously bad. People will play this as a chill strong map clearer that can do rather juiced content, but this is not a boss killer

[@CaptainLance9]

Realistically RF chieftain would probably be 1mil on low end/very early gear to 10mil on high end gear with good playstyle, it won't compete with insane dps chars like the tri-stack hexblast i made last league but would probably be a lot of fun to play.

[@NSink1]

No early sanctum this time around?

[@thyala3582]

am i missing something or why dont u make it to reserve mana and have it automated?

[@alexcole76]

New call to arms no longer grants you the buffs from the warcries

[@thyala3582]

@@alexcole76 oh i see then what is the damn point of the new gem just to exert or what? thats kinda bad

[@alexcole76]

@@thyala3582 Some of them apply debuffs, but also yea for exerting mainly.

[@TalkativeTri]

omg do not start RF please play melee bro (im joking)

[@Yaz]

1% max res per 10 power with max 30 power, wouldn't that be 3% max red total?

[@jojochickenstrips4146]

You can get increased warcry effect.

[@vi8799]

This is the maximum in terms of the power limit, but warcries also have a buff effect multiplier.

[@Yelficky]

Where damage?

[@dungeonandkitchen]

Doryani’s Fist

[@zachstone2750]

Can’t you just use call to arms and automate everything?

[@VictusBcb]

They changed CTA. You don't get the buff effects, just exerts

[@zachstone2750]

@@VictusBcb damn, only one league to use it

[@pridefulworm]

Chieftain based

[@taiwanisacountry]

Why are nobody talking about the endurance charge buffs? 4% redued ele damage taken! That affect RF! 5 charges, bam! 20% reduced RF damage taken and all other elemental damage taken. What implicit on a ring can be better than 4% reduced elemental damage taken? (+1 max endurance)? It is bonkers!! And nobody seems to have noticed.

[@SWTORDREKKIN]

Because you won't always have endurance charges - mobs can "steal them" and they can expire. Even if they didn't, RF degen is nearly nothing when you get to mid or end-game. So 20% less degen from an already trivial degen isn't going to really change much in net regen. Maybe a few hundred more, but the difference between, say, 1200 regen and 1500 is pretty much negligible.

[@Ashtarte3D]

Dear Lance, please flesh out your Wintertide Elementalist build for the league. Nothing got nerfed, only buffed. It's going to be cash money.

[@Oathiel]

Should I invest into Wintertide stocks? 😅

[@GobbleMoushe]

Sick

[@168bansrul16]

Let's go rf army 😂🎉 all league

[@mertuygun4825]

With changes to endurance charges, lightning coil Will be Best item on JUGG cheiftain slayer type end charge stackers 😅

[@josephsmith7023]

Maybe I'm misunderstanding here, but to me infinite power means no cap on stacks. But it feels like from the content of the video you take infinite power to mean always max stacks?

[@epyjacek]

Yeah I think that mod technically takes you to max warcry effect based on power. It's not really infinite.

[@_Titanium_]

How would that work lmao

[@frederikthorup6785]

It basically means it get power as if there were an infinite number of enemies nearby, but still caps at max power. Infinite power is probably not the best wording.

[@vi8799]

Formally, the power of warcries is contained not in the cry itself, but in the enemies around it. The cry only has a limit on the amount of power it can use. Ttherefore, it is correct to assume that enemies number around the hero is infinite. But it’s easier to understand that the cry will always have maximum output.

[@CaptainLance9]

infinite power simply means you will get whatever the "cap" is for benefit on various buffs based on the gem, then you can go beyond that with buff effect as a multiplier. The game isn't going to give you infinite regen/infinite gain as fire/ect.

[@Sherudons]

IF I have it right, you could just automate 5 warcry's they heal, cleanse and generate rage for you on warcry, you have infinite healing, rage regen. Provided rage masteries work with the call to arms gem, if I remember the warcry one's won't because.. spaghetti code and technicalities... even if they don't you should still be able to drop warcries down to permanent uptime quite easily and make it a non-yet-why-not-issue.

[@Jellounseen]

You cannot automate them and receive buffs. You lose the buffs and only gain the exerts with the automation for warcries

[@Sherudons]

@@Jellounseen Ah yes.. last line gets me, well that idea's in the bin, still could be ok for the trigger effects.

[@gamingandlifeonwheels2104]

What about automation with warcrys?

[@Zylosio]

doesnt work, warcry arent spells and the new call to arms which automates warcries doesnt provide their buffs, only exerts

[@SpazerLaser]

@@Zylosio which is still good for intim cry so i dont see the issue, unless im missing something

[@mrghostmrghost6469]

rip str stacking ,

[@MyNameIsSalo]

classic melee rework, ends up buffing spells more and now spell casters can abuse warcries lol

[@462seb]

Reaptain LOGIN

[@Tsukigato]

Tsk, calling it an increased duration support. Get with the times, lancy. It's More Duration Support now. lol

[@Sawyoh78]

If you read further on Ancestral Cry it says counting maximum of 30 power so it’s capped at 3%

[@RossBossly]

The comments complaining about pressing buttons. Lol. Just don't play warcrys. Move along.

[@WesleyCremonini]

cant you just automate the warcries?

[@jevrap]

No, automation of warcries removes the buff effects but it keeps exerts (hence it's now called auto exert)

[@ReggaeTroner172]

​@@jevrapit now also reserves mana per warcry.

[@WesleyCremonini]

@@jevrap uuuuh, thats bad

[@at_]

I think this is such a weird change 3.24:"we automated your buffs so you need less buttons" 3.25:"automating your buffs no longer gives you buffs"

[@spamstabber]

​@@at_well warcries were pretty irrelevant last league, not so much now.

[@ChrisBrown-jq2ox]

Meow

[@xe3014]

What about Automating them? Isnt it Possible since last League?

[@failor3235]

There are automation for warcry, but now it only for exert attacks (no buff effects)

[@yoelthepianista1427]

​@@failor3235 call to arms gem.

[@TheJaZooka]

​@@yoelthepianista1427which if you could read "doesn't grant any buffs or charges to you or allies" anymore

[@yoelthepianista1427]

@@TheJaZooka still existd

[@TheJaZooka]

@@yoelthepianista1427 yeah, but only for exertion of attacks AND NOT THEIR BUFFS and reserves 15% mana per warcry

[@nasghul01]

kaobs lost its incr dmg though

[@SWTORDREKKIN]

50% increased damage at end-game is fairly insignificant, and with RF, the increased life increases the damage of RF more than 50% increase fire damage would do. New Kaom's (technically old, as in original) is an definitely upgrade.

[@stifer0X0]

You are mistaken with the full uptime of warcry buffs since warcries don't go on cooldown while the buff is active.

[@jmtl]

This isn't true unless it is an unannounced change in 3.25.

[@IllNacs]

them removing call to arms RUINED warcries for me, why give us this seemingly OP league then nerf something very new into the ground?

[@therocklau]

Wait, Lance doesn't know? Juggernaut is dead, the fundamental Juggernaut node unbreakable is gone, you no longer have armour applies to ele hit.

[@CaptainLance9]

Fundamental armour node that was insanely strong could not exist with Elemental DR change that occurred on endurance charges which btw is INSANELY strong defensively. Look into eternal damnation + min endurance charges or ralakesh with endurance charge stacking, you might just find this new various of jugg to be much tankier than previous one. The armour required to mitigate big hits even close to as efficiently was only possible on armour stackers. Jugg fell apart on ubers generally(unless extremely minmaxed) outside of armour stacking now it won't.

[@SWTORDREKKIN]

@@CaptainLance9 They changed eternal damnation, so it won't combo with ralakesh. So that isn't going to work. No way ED is worth it at this point.

[@marcosdheleno]

he calls it buffs, i call them atrociously convoluted and the opposite of fun. this is basically the old flasks all over again. needing to press a thousand buttons every couple of seconds. yeah. sounds like hell to me.

[@462seb]

2 extra buttons every 10 seconds. Not for everyone, but also not a thousand buttons every couple of seconds. Not to mention it is for RF, ya know the build that you just walk around on 😂

[@marcosdheleno]

@@462seb you are forgetting something. you have to stop to warcry. it has an animation. so you will lose between 1 to half a second, depending on how much you invest into casting warcry speed. it might not seem like alot, but it will get tiresome fast. before you could just put the skill on the left mouse button, with call to arms to autocast it with no issues. and again, it will be annoying if its 1 or 2. but if you decide to go all in, and have 3 or 4 it will REALLY get to ya.

[@matthewbrown6397]

@@marcosdheleno This is what is called "projection".

[@arei2422]

If pressing pressing anything but right-click couple times per 10s is not fun for you, don't play a build that rquires it then. I happen to like pressing button constantly so this definitely not the "opposite of fun" for me :)

[@marcosdheleno]

@@arei2422 the issue is not pressing a button every 10 seconds. its having to press multiple buttons one after the other every few seconds. you know, like how D3 is. this isnt the only button you will be pressing. you will be using flasks, your main skill, your movement skill, this skill, the counter skill. this is getting more and more tiresome to play. as they keep adding stuff like this. also people keep thinking the skill will last for 10seconds+. it wont. its a warcry, meaning, you will be pressing it, every 2-3 seconds at most during fights, because of running out of exerted attacks.

[@knaz7468]

I really wish they got rid of the war cries along with the totems ... war cry playstyle is SUPER cringe and not fun at all.

[@marcosdheleno]

i still think chieftain is far from being good. its now playable. and has uses. but i would not call it good yet. it has 3 good nodes. with the potential for a 4th in the new sinoe(or however its called). but at least its nowhere near as bad as what they did to the champion. so that's a good thing.

[@CaptainLance9]

I think sinoe is much better than you are giving it credit for, check out eternal apple on a phys to fire caster for example :D