Have I Changed The TV Licence Goon Job

I found a new ad for a tv licence enforcement office job, and it looks a lot sweeter than it used to. Are Capita struggling to recruit for this job now because of us? I hope so
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[@chrisgironde6669]

“Visit customers without a TV license” ? If the person doesn’t have a TV license, they are not a customer. They are only a potential customer.

[@MikeEves]

I'm a gun customer without a firearm's licence.....

[@jonathanwright1507]

I do not see the point in a TV Licence, my TV works fine without one!

[@firestar7774]

Hahaha

[@brimkathstampex2306]

Mine and millions of others too.

[@stevegee8010]

So they think people who don't have a TV licence are _customers?_ Someone should tell them that anyone who doesn't buy their licence is absolutely not a customer.

[@grahamturner6119]

I ain't got a licence (2 years now) in Bournemouth come and get me

[@frankanderson5012]

I like how the call them 'customers without a TV licence'. They have a funny way of treating their 'customers'. Besides, you're not a customer if you don't need a licence.

[@AlexKingsfallen]

As Chilli said. Don't answer the door, but if you do, say "no thanks mate" and close the door.

[@KiwiCatherineJemma]

or perhaps "No speeky da Ingrish !"

[@FuelPoverty]

Makes no difference to me how they have sweetened the job, the only thing they will get from me, the cat, the kids, the kids boyfriends etc, is "No thanks", and a door clicking shut. You have trained us well Mr Chilli.

[@RandomNoob]

I would just go round and say I visited without visiting.

[@brummiali1998]

And a sprinkle of paprika in their eyes

[@craigcoopertowers]

I would apply for the job and go to the addresses and just sit outside and do nothing and screw the company over

[@StickySauce101]

sadly they are scummy and track their own "workers" via GPS to ensure they are productive little gestapo.

[@Heneggsboss]

Haha yes

[@anonnemo2504]

I doubt that would work. Assuming this is a genuine job advert, you can bet your bottom dollar that a "probationary period" will be involved and anyone not selling enough licences and/or initiating prosecutions will be out on their ear with no redundancy payment.

[@stevegee8010]

At first you'd be going around with an already trained goon to learn the ropes. Then they'd let you do the goonage yourself while under supervision. If they keep you on after this training period they'd expect the same, if not better results for sales. So you're finally out on your own and suddenly no sales... they're gonna know you're skiving.

[@westendisbestend]

the job is mainly bonus paid they get 80 pound for every catch ontop of wages thats why ther so cruel

[@BedsitBob]

I think being a Traffic Warden would be a massive step up. 😊

[@DashDriver-z1r]

Pays less 24-27 in my area and you dont get a car or travel other than when working

[@frankbrodie5168]

I drove for a living for the Post Office throughout the 80's and 90's and never had any issues with Traffic Wardens. They're not commision based as far as I know, so quite a few of them just literally wander around making sure that drivers aren't being tits. (which 50% of drivers usually are, so it's not a freebie job even then.) Personally I'd consider being a drug dealer standing outside a primary school gate to be a considerable step-up from TVL goon. Like Chilli touches on in this video and others, it's not a job you could ever tell anyone that you did. Like the coppers in the 1970's who had to have their own pubs to drink in even. Because they were pariahs of society.

[@klawlor3659]

I'd sooner sign up to be Ukrainian missile fodder than work for TVL (or be a traffic warden).

[@Polecat54941]

@@klawlor3659 While all the Ukrainian males are over here getting TVL jobs whilst dodging the draught?

[@WillCamx]

A Traffic Warden can't stop you and demand that you prove you don't own or drive a car.

[@steviethompson1746]

Defund the BBC. Cancel your direct debits

[@jammiedodger629]

Yep, done it. Still watch live TV. come for me goons.

[@timothywilliams4089]

I have, and after a few letters and threats , they're going to send the boys down from Cardiff!,....well they'll have a 160 mile wasted trip.

[@cplcabs]

Done it years ago and recommend to all to do it.

[@jammiedodger629]

@starbarhippo2091 Good work mate. Welcome to the brother and sisterhood that is defying the left wing biased, govt approved bunch of thugs. If ever we meet, first beer is on me!!

[@rogermellie3781]

Take the job + car (insured for business) then just use the car delivering takaways = double the wages 👍😂

[@MELLYBOY58]

Would that be taking the pizza ??✌️✌️🇬🇧🇬🇧

[@markfindlay8636]

Then get into the house and stitch them up if have a TV without a licence 😅

[@KiwiCatherineJemma]

...almost, but could I slightly amend that, to say if one was delivering takeaways for a shop selling Black Forest Gateau, then that really would be, "taking the cake" !

[@stevegee8010]

It would be very satisfying to have a second job delivering TV dinners.

[@Rediroth]

I would almost want to take the job for that 30k just to go to people's houses to tell them how much they don't need the TV licence and see how long it lasts 😂.

[@janeturner124]

Me too 😂

[@mandypeters8082]

My thoughts exactly 😂

[@RachaelMorgan-om4xw]

I was thinking the exact thing! I'm going to tell my brother about this

[@Littlepocketrocket81]

Omg 😂yes 😂😂😂😂😂

[@nubie1100]

please someone do it 🙏 then report back 🙏 I'm sure it wouldn't last long without any results, but the vids would be funny 👍

[@AzguardMike]

I know a goon who does it. He got it through the Job Centre of all things. He doesnt even knock their doors. He does the full journey, parks up, and just has his packed lunch. Told me once he did knock and told the person "Im with TV licensing, dont worry, im not here to sell a license." and gave the woman a form that was a TV license exemption form. Said if she could fill it in, he'd hand it in. Even advised her to put "the occupant" as the name on the form. I'm half tempted to do it too. 30K a year plus 300 a month for fuel. thagts £2.525 a month before tax, to doss in the car and maybe advice people to not get the license. Hell yes. Lets take a page out of a certain other groups book. Infiltrate and take over.

[@WillCamx]

If they dont have a TV licence then they are not customers.

[@malcolmstarkey1062]

Very good point.

[@lillymcewen6309]

Exactly what I was just about to say. Beat me to it lol

[@alphanov2009]

If you are not a customer then they cannot legally hold your personal details under GDPR. The letter that they send out to get you to renew your 'opt out' should just be addressed to the occupier not a named individual!

[@derekwarren6171]

Not contracted to the BBC.

[@neilgoodall1768]

The TV licence is dead, it just does not know it----yet. Keep up the good work 😀

[@ThePstorm]

Hey Chilli, you should apply, then put the whole process on your channel. It would be a great insight.

[@loopi7126]

Would make an interesting undercover film

[@orangcurl]

No commission, 30 grand ,sounds like the perfect opportunity to educate people on how not to require a licence.

[@MrG-ESP]

Couldn't of said better. Going round, getting paid the BBC to do what they don't want you to do. COOL JOB!!!

[@MrJordanwain]

Agreed!!!! This sounds like a good job advising the public what they can do.

[@peterthomas5792]

Nice thoughts, but they'll still have 'performance targets' to meet. You wouldn't last very long :-)

[@reggriffiths5769]

It would be niaive to think that these "Field Officers" would be any different from what already exists; they are at your door because you don't have a licence, and if you don't wish to purchase one (for whatever reason) they're still going to want to gain entry to your home - it's as simple as that. No company retains salesmaen who don't produce the goods, so do not expect better treatment when they turn up. What this is, is merely a ploy to win the government over in continuing to provide the BBC with another ten-year licence; after all, it's up again for renewal very soon. The BBC and Capita have certainly been working hard to make themselves look sweet, but we allshould know it's just a sugar dusting, because what's underneath is still the same old crap.

[@OMGAnotherday]

I've been thinking differently these days, Its not that the gov. needs our £160 pa fee, Its that they want their propaganda in our front rooms! All the more reason to dump the evil shit!

[@brianengel3487]

They need to dangle the recruitment carrot 🥕, as more people cancel their TV Licences because its not fit for purpose and still in the dark ages.

[@iskrajackal9049]

@brianengel3487 Dark ages! Totally agree. It's also a 'we know where you live' tax.

[@malio9382]

We should treat them the same as gas and electric company's, if we don't pay up, stop piping it into our homes, 😮

[@Jimages_uk]

I recently retired early but this looks like a good opportunity, basically £33,500 for knocking on doors and explaining to people that they don’t need a licence as long as they don’t watch broadcast TV or iPlayer. Money for old rope really. Decisions, decisions !

[@SirJimmySavileOBEKCSG]

I'd never apply no matter how in need of a job!

[@mrobo9037]

👍

[@laceandwhisky]

I would just so I could tell chilliejoncarne about the training and how it works as a goon 😂

[@alanrogers8535]

30K And no commision ? I'D do it just to ride around the country side and see new places.

[@debs1701]

😂😂

[@mathewnicholls5881]

There just getting desperate. More of us are getting wise to the BBC. Me and the wife have just cancelled our licence and we won’t be going back to paying Linekars salary again!

[@richardkinghorn4729]

Won’t stop them lying about the absolute need to have one even if you don’t watch live TV.

[@cemctaggart]

We've cancelled ours now. Wasn't wasting any more money for nothing. Thanks for all your well informed advice. Keep up the good work 👍👍

[@CHRIS-xm1do]

I wonder if they’d give me a job, as someone without a licence thanks to you John.??

[@brimkathstampex2306]

Ahh, but are you watching anything on TV that requires you to have a TV Licence?

[@MikeEves]

@@brimkathstampex2306 what makes you think Chris has a TV? And me for that matter. Do you own a gun without a licence?

[@Sadie595]

Lets hope it's because of all the great work you are doing Jon with your channel! Keep up the great work mate 👍

[@robbiecox]

The hand held device tracks them 100%.

[@Simon.0000]

If I got that job in my local area . My windows would be put through every day

[@anonnemo2504]

Assuming this is a genuine job advert, you can bet your bottom dollar that a "probationary period" will be involved and anyone not selling enough licences and/or initiating prosecutions will be out on their ear with no redundancy payment. Also, this will only apply to new recruits. The vast majority of TV licence "enforcement officers" will still be on commission, so don't expect much change in attitudes to people unwise enough to converse with them on their doorsteps any time soon.

[@mogden2803]

Yeah, take their money for the probationary period, and the car. Thrash it about on long family journeys, and then walk away at the end. Screw 'em!!!

[@mandypeters8082]

Just what I was thinking 😂

[@alanjones9101]

🤔 ​That's a good idea ...why didn't I think of that! 😆

[@anonnemo2504]

@@mogden2803 That would be tempting, I suppose, unless one already had a fairly secure and well paid job.

[@mogden2803]

@@anonnemo2504 Yes, I was thinking more about people without a job at the time.

[@ds911-vh1te]

whats a betting we will see people straight off the boat / masked up and agresive getting these jobs 🤔

[@iskrajackal9049]

@ds911-wh1te There won't be anybody "straight off the boat" (as you charmingly call it) because they are not allowed to apply for jobs until they have been processed by the Home Office, which at the moment is not very quickly at all. You really should get a grip of migration facts and avoid making ridiculous comments.

[@Polecat54941]

@@iskrajackal9049 The fact that you think the Home Office knows where they are is more ridiculous as a comment :)

[@iskrajackal9049]

@@Polecat54941 Fair point.

[@spent808]

£30k a year and just go to the addresses giving out advice how not to pay the licence.

[@meljen8592]

Capita will need to renegotiate the tv licence contract if they haven’t already,less customers equals less reward.

[@-11114]

First Class Video as always Jon people are getting the message. I’d happily see the BBC out of business

[@JupiterThunder]

The job description pre-supposes that people always need a licence. Are life insurance and emergency private dental cover part of the benefits package?

[@The.brigadier]

I could never be so low to do a job for the tv licence company.

[@crawford1083]

Well done Jon. Spreading the word about the licence fee and how outrageous it is and how easily it can be avoided.

[@loopi7126]

They will still have targets to meet each week. Nothing will change

[@christopherkelly283]

If they are being payed that much then we are paying for it even more and one more reason to stop paying for your TV licence now

[@paulosullivan3472]

They couldnt offer me enough to be a tv licence goon, if the salary was 150k a year I would still turn it down, my soul is worth more than that.

[@brimkathstampex2306]

Like millions of us.

[@simonfranklin7659]

Come on people, cancel your license. It feels great

[@MikeEves]

Plus the only thing that happens is that you save £160+ a year....

[@noelward8047]

The clause that is missing in the job description is how many 'conversions' / 'convictions' that will be required per month to keep the job . Someone needs to apply to find out how many ? Haha

[@Kingcarparpeggio]

Why not you then…..HaHa !!!

[@peteradams408]

Stopped paying the licence fee years ago.

[@pelocitdarney5718]

Chilli, it's great to see that you've just been featured, and recommended, on today's UK Column News, a leading independent news service.

[@scousepie2]

I would rather stick needles in my eyes than do a job like this... !!

[@dannycrotch5188]

While visiting a friend's home yesterday she was watching a programme about the excellent BBC comedy the Good Life, which I watched in the seventies as a young boy at my parents. Anyway there was a segment when the fantastic Penelope Keith was saying that she had a lot of fun going to Harrods to choose the glamorous and revealing outfits she wore in the show. I said to my friend that's when the licence fee was giving you something for your money.

[@BedsitBob]

I think they'd need Class 3 business insurance:- *Business (Class 3)* If you do a lot of travelling for work, you might meet the criteria for Business Class 3 insurance - designed for people who are frequently travelling between business locations. This level of cover would be appropriate if you’re a salesperson visiting numerous clients, an inspector visiting lots of sites, or a community support worker working at service user’s homes.

[@klawlor3659]

Lancaster chap here...that LA postcode area extends a fair way, if that's what they want you to cover. You're going to be covering areas like Barrow to the west, Ambleside to the north and near to Settle in the east. Quite a fair few square miles. Pretty sure they have a handheld device which records the addresses they visit and the result of each visit.

[@iskrajackal9049]

Allegedly, Crapita are also advertising 2 other roles on exactly the same pay and expenses package: 1. 'Beating Up Old Ladies Officer' 2. 'Pulling The Wings Off Flies Officer.

[@deaconjohn6838]

Alf garnet was right about the TV licence

[@andreashaynes3346]

Desperate times Jon. I’m retired but when I was working as a Crisis team nurse in the Mental Health Service, I’d have taken a job as a street cleaner other than a “TV licence Field Officer”!!! Capita are BS!!! 🙄🙄🙄

[@willNotwork126]

Instead of getting commission they will be held to ridiculous targets to keep their job and car

[@harryjervis4666]

Keep it up/ Behind you. Love your stream

[@Jeannette-op5qe]

I'm hated enough, I don't need that humiliation thank you.

[@carolynq1487]

I've had two visits over the last few months - I just don't answer the door. I'm playing it straight and don't need a licence but I'm not putting myself in the position of a potential stitch up and they have no right to inspect my home. Still got Chilli's 'No thanks, mate' response ready for if they catch me gardening.

[@patrick-ez8hi]

chilli! we are not "CUSTOMERS" IF WE DONT NEED A LICENCE???

[@georgedavidson957]

think I'll apply for the job. when I knock on a door, I'll hold up big signs out of camera range saying "SAY NO THANK YOU AND SLAM THE DOOR".

[@GypsyHunter232UK]

Prince Andrew is said to become a BBC licence investigator it was said by a friend close to the Mccanns the friend said.

[@mharris7380]

If it isn't a commission based job it is one I'd consider doing, because I know then that the people I call on will be spoken to with respect and by someone who themselves understands the law. If any did engage with me I'd probably even tell them I don't watch TV and so I don't have a license, but ultimately I'd do it because I know then they aren't being lied to and manipulated into giving me information they didn't have to give me.

[@zee9000_]

someone should create a bot which applies to this job 1000s time with fake cv and profiles...

[@Kingcarparpeggio]

Perhaps you could do it bright spark !!!…..Or is it too much effort for you ?

[@mickman0073]

A job for Billy no mates.

[@TurboTimsWorld]

Take the job Jon and then give us a view from the other side ! great videos Thank You !

[@James-cs2wi]

I was on 30 grand 30 years ago as a diesel mechanic😅😅😅

[@dannycrooks8462]

Go for it apply for the job and see if there's still commission involved

[@silverclive]

They may not get commission as such, but they will still have to reach a sales target. That salary and benefits have to be paid for.

[@altvamp]

How are you a customer if you don't have a licence?

[@dannycrooks8462]

Take the job but don't sell any licences just tap slightly on the door then say there's no answer 😂😂

[@kurtsteiner8384]

A shipmate of mine was a trafic warden many years ago. He would never talk to anyone if you knew him if he was traffic wardening. Did not do this long. I cant see military people doing this as they hate that sort of petty rubbish.

[@RachaelMorgan-om4xw]

Well done our ChilliJon!!! Outstanding progress!! 🤗

[@queenberengaria9626]

Please SOMEBODY tell us what that handheld device they all carry actually DOES? Does it record conversation, or images of who opens the door at the address or is it just a handheld computer to log details? Even if you only heard from a "customer" (ha!) that they don't require a licence why would the person answering the door feel comfortable giving out personal information to a complete stranger, given half the time the goons are reluctant to show ID on arrival??

[@fuzzybobbles]

There will be performance strings attached that you won't find out about until you start the job. My employer does this and is in one sentence. Expected to hit general performance targets. Then once you start the job, you find out that most are basically impossible unless under ideal conditions. This is why most young people quit within 6 weeks and the only ones left are those who have been there over 2 years and can claim unfair dismissal, and a lot of new people from the religion of peace who play the race card.

[@karl8049]

Realistically, they will have to recruit a lot of staff if they lose another half a million tv licences this year. Will they be able to afford to pay them if the bbc keep losing money. Looking after their pensions will be more important. Karl

[@JohnResalb]

Hi friend. There's a huge point you've overlooked. That £30,000 vacancy is for just ONE town. How many of these mafia agents are there all around the country ? Multiply that by £30,000 - the total wage bill must be mind-boggling.!! And how does any of that contribute to producing popular TV programmes ? Also, when any BBC channel is watched in Southern Ireland or indeed ANYWHERE outside UK, their licence fee has no legal status and cannot be collected.!!

[@alliedatheistalliance6776]

Sounds like they're getting desperate for applicants tbh. The only reason they'd move from the commision system is because commision-based sales jobs really suck, and it seems like they don't get enough to make it worth the while. Getting someone to open the door now must be like winning the lottery.

[@baronblaze]

Have just received another call from our local jolly enforcement officer. I said you only visited 3 weeks ago. The response was that he had to keep visiting until he is allowed inmy house to view my television. I showed him my television through the window and repeated that i stream all programmes through apps. I will expect another visit in 3 weeks.

[@Ginger_Dalek]

I think you need to keep an eye out for TVL recruiting in your area Jon. Then apply and go through the application with us on camera. It'll be a laugh if nothing else!

[@StickySauce101]

they'll still give people bonuses and so on (they'll just not proclaim they do so) - much like DWP they can just blatantly break laws and get no consequences.. while they search everyone else's bank for "fraud" they will happily plop extra money in the bank of their enforcement officers.

[@eartheart3694]

👍💯👍

[@azyfloof]

You should apply! Ask some probing questions at the interview :D Also that mic sounds amazing for 25 quid :D The previous one had some weird stereo panning issues (?) so this one sounds miles better

[@gerrimilner9448]

sounds like a great job. feel so sorry for people pushed into this job at the job centre, can you refuse a job on moral grounds?

[@christopherckarkson5605]

Hello, plenty of people that use the job centre will be forced to apply. Seems to me this new job title and perks smackes of desperation.

[@ForeverSouthendUnited-fb2eb]

How do I apply for the job? Do I have to send application off in red envelope?

[@carolhersey]

I DONT watch bbc, iPlayer or any other live stream but I’m still so scared of not paying my license. I’m scared they can just lie me into court.

[@Kingcarparpeggio]

Well just say when/if they come to your house “No thank you” and shut the door…..nothing else needed. They have to have proof that you watch Live TV etc before they can do anything ( even to get a warrant “) . A magistrate isn’t going to issue a warrant to some low-life scumbag who “ just wants access to your home” . He will need a damn good reason before he’ll get one and it’s too much trouble for them anyway. Good luck.

[@mrtecsom6951]

This is superb, based on Mr Chillis 🌶️ fantastic job spec and recommendation I’m applying on Monday 👍🏻

[@thetruthwillwinoneday]

I’m not a customer or a potential customer…!

[@the_once-and-future_king.]

Jon, you need to look into the bit about them getting body-worn video cameras mentioned in the 'perks'. As they'll be facing into people's private residences, that is a HUGE red flag on its own.

[@colinlacey9993]

Need permission to use by land owner. At private address

[@DaRanged]

Imagine if they went around and advised people not watching Live TV or iPlayer, that they could walk them thru the process on the website to declare they do not need a license. I've not had a visit for almost 10yrs since I first did that.

[@Tiny-One]

Nah... If they're desperate, they'd be advertising in job centres next to Amazon. That way, you get "employees" who can't refuse the job without getting sanctioned.

[@loopi7126]

And they need more goons because there is a larger pool of people cancelling.

[@MikeEves]

The default is that you must opt in for a TV licence, not opt out.

[@BrumKid]

How can they say customers currently without a TV Licence, i dont consider myself a customer of the TV Licence as i have not had one for about 6 years now.

[@tonybeards2978]

Theve involved capita for one reason, they do other government contracts including questioning disabled people about pip and so on. Nothing different as they'll all try and stitch you up

[@jenniriley482]

Depends on the area you are in. Atos has just done my pip assessment. I'm in sw England. X

[@michaeldevanney4796]

I have sign an my door which simply states "no cold callers" when anyone knocks I simply point to the sign and close the door.

[@blackcitadel9]

I'd happily take this job and tell people to go No Licence wherever possible. Unfortunately I don't live in Lancaster or have a car.

[@tekmakerUK]

Go on John, get applying!

[@alexscott1257]

I'd just like to say that I have personally known many security guards in my time and I can tell you that the violent bullies are very much in the minority. When I worked in a late night fast food restaurant our best doorman was a guy called John. The first night I met him I was terrified because he was short and weedy looking and talked with a very soft voice and I thought that he would never handle a real situation of violence. But sure enough his approach never failed! He would talk really calmly to people even if they were holding a chair over their head and somehow they always saw sense and calmed down and left peacefully! Many of our bouncers had very jovial attitudes and as soon as the customers were inside the door they would greet them in a friendly way to establish a relaxed atmosphere rather than a "what your step" kind of atmosphere. If we needed someone out (as was sometimes the case at 4am in a large English city centre) they wouldn't hesitate to escort them to the door but they would never hurt anyone on the way out they would simply put them in a grip that said "I'm the boss" and then as soon as they were out of the door they would release them and just calmly tell them to not come back tonight. The security guards wage is a fair bit above minimum and if you lack other skills there are much worse jobs to do. And what if you are not so bright but are a naturally massive person! Standing on a door all day and night isn't a bad way to make a living. The most enormous guy I ever met worked as a doorman and he could pull a menacing face if he needed to and nobody would ever step beyond that line. He was one of the nicest and most sensitive guys I ever knew.

[@a6m41]

they literally have the same behaviour tactics as scammers, misleading people with who needs and doesn't need it and threatening people without proof lol

[@CortinasAndClassics]

I got another letter Jon. apparently they are going to visit even though they already have 😂

[@ChilliJonCarne]

The letters certainly are a constant source of amusement

[@noelward8047]

They must like you if they are going to come again Haha

[@laceandwhisky]

If they come back they suspect some dodgy viewing going on 😂

[@CortinasAndClassics]

@@noelward8047 I know, it's madness 😂 I might have to get the tea and biscuits out next time.

[@CortinasAndClassics]

@@laceandwhisky They always come back. And I don't watch TV 📺

[@dale8048]

They will still have targets and the incentive will be to meet the target, or lose your 30g salary and company car.

[@dandylion1987]

Might take this job, then go round telling people that i'm just a salesman and not to buy a license XD

[@akoola7853]

I'd do the job. I wouldn't care how many doors close in my face for 30k. I'd be polite. I would NOT stitch anyone up. I'd probably be sacked in a week though. I hate sales and I certainly couldn't give two monkeys who's watching what. And I'd have enough to have a pint with my mates.

[@BedsitBob]

"Television Licence Field Officer". AKA TVL Goon. 😊