The last episode broke my heart but at least nick wasn’t lying they were endgame 😔
@Alexis-dq5ko3 жыл бұрын
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@ughdays3 жыл бұрын
He drowned just to be with her. That’s true ❤️
@madisonespinoza75863 жыл бұрын
I’m happy I’m the only one who noticed but gosh I’m gonna miss the show
@isaa.51873 жыл бұрын
@@ughdays What a way to romanticize suicide
@ongseungwu43113 жыл бұрын
@@isaa.5187 well romeo and Juliet started it 😂
@dollyandolls25693 жыл бұрын
Kieran: people will be happy with the ending Me: *continuously crying for 2 hours straight*
@justuninformed62583 жыл бұрын
I just finished and i feel you been like an hour and a half 😭😭😭
@Grace-ju1gp3 жыл бұрын
Literally me
@meganthegreatandamazing75613 жыл бұрын
omg i have watched it 3 times and cried everytime
@Joshimr13 жыл бұрын
I'm still crying Til this day 😭
@Alexis-dq5ko3 жыл бұрын
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@elizabethgray93403 жыл бұрын
Season 4 is so sad literally I can’t believe that this happened and the show ended it was such an amazing show and it will be missed!🥺❤️
@anasmostafa88073 жыл бұрын
There is a possibility that there will be another season
@aldaghestaniya43323 жыл бұрын
@@anasmostafa8807 how you know that ?
@Alexis-dq5ko3 жыл бұрын
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@mariahhannah40843 жыл бұрын
cannot believe this show got cancelled 😭 we, the fans, and the actors deserve better! 😭
@saltymoon92873 жыл бұрын
seriously I NEED MORE THROBIN
@pristhewonderful3 жыл бұрын
I hate that this show is ending 😭 Listen to the fans and the writers!
@winniewinkles3 жыл бұрын
I.know.right.?!?!
@xsierraz15443 жыл бұрын
It’s been 3 hours since I finished part 4. Does anyone want to have a metal breakdown with me?
@thanvipirangi22463 жыл бұрын
Me, I think the ending was kinda rushed maybe. Probably because they had to end the show.
@DrDre9993 жыл бұрын
Metal breakdown? You wanna go back to battle of the bands? 😉
@AndreaRodriguez-xr5re3 жыл бұрын
Bet 🥲👌
@Alexis-dq5ko3 жыл бұрын
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@aroseinwinter053 жыл бұрын
@@DrDre999 lmao
@thewatcher85733 жыл бұрын
what, it's crazy it's been 4 seasons but it feels like this show just started
@Alexis-dq5ko3 жыл бұрын
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@thewatcher85733 жыл бұрын
@@Alexis-dq5ko Done!
@theoblack45923 жыл бұрын
@@beo1282 they mean parts
@joshjosh75983 жыл бұрын
We only witnessed Sabrina’a growth through a literal YEAR. She died at 17. Imagine how much growth and development we could have witnessed 😭.
@xmaa9x3 жыл бұрын
kiernan said: "my gosh is that an ending" sis no...it was literally bullshit. here's to hoping for a part 5...
@popppyyyy13 жыл бұрын
Netflix cancelled it last year so no hope :( its so sad cause show like riverdale keep getting renewed
@Alexis-dq5ko3 жыл бұрын
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@spydercorpsefilms3 жыл бұрын
@@popppyyyy1 thats because riverdale isn't a netflix original and riverdale was originally made by other people its just streamed on netflix 🙄 but yea riverdale should of gone and this should of stayed but hopefully someone will take over and renew the show we can only hope
@popppyyyy13 жыл бұрын
@@Alexis-dq5ko ive already signed it i hope enough people do
@popppyyyy13 жыл бұрын
@@spydercorpsefilms its a netflix series backed by Netflix after its first season was on it and yeah the first season is alright but compared to show like Sabrina and even other show like the society(although i know that was due partly to covid) they dont deserve to be cancelled when other shows can carry on
@silversweet92113 жыл бұрын
I have hopes that we get another show out of Sabrina. I think Prudence could hold her own in a spinoff series.
@meganthegreatandamazing75613 жыл бұрын
it was cancelled
@Alexis-dq5ko3 жыл бұрын
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@meganthegreatandamazing75613 жыл бұрын
@@Alexis-dq5ko no it's been cancelled
@amberschultz92343 жыл бұрын
That’s hence what signing the petition is for!!
@meganthegreatandamazing75613 жыл бұрын
@@amberschultz9234 yh but they won't do anything
@ayelamasangcay72443 жыл бұрын
The cast members are perfect. I want a part 5. WE NEED MORE!!!
@giadadebani43553 жыл бұрын
Can we all appreciate Leanne Aguilera for a moment? Her questions were super interesting and well thought, you could see that she was really invested in all the discussions and she was kind to everybody. Plus, when Lucy was talking about saying goodbye to the Spellman House, Leanne’s eyes filled with tears and that was so relatable because I actually started crying in that exact same moment 🥺 It’s always good to find professional interviewers who are passionate about their work! Okay, now me and my Nabrina heart can go back to the Void, because that’s where we belong after the emotional devastation of last episode. Bye.
@reynaldallenc.madarang5813 жыл бұрын
i hate netflix cancelled this show! it's my favorite! :(
@Alexis-dq5ko3 жыл бұрын
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@evilphuk3 жыл бұрын
netflix has a habit of cancelling shows and leaving the fans hanging. A series from Netflix has a max production span of 3-4 seasons :(
@em42003 жыл бұрын
here after finishing part 4 😢
@adrianaroscala54443 жыл бұрын
It’s not fair
@michaelj17293 жыл бұрын
That ending never happened for me. Sabrina went from resurrecting witches and burning angels and saving everyone in part 1 and 2 and 3 to dying in seconds in part 4. Shes half witch half angel damn it her power shouldve never been taken away from her cause its in her blood.
@joshjosh75983 жыл бұрын
Why was her power taken away btw??
@sarahhui65423 жыл бұрын
@@joshjosh7598 because in the season 3 finale (after her doppelgänger saved her) she and the other Sabrina decided to live both endings that she would want. Sorry it might not make sense, but basically the Sabrina who becomes queen of hell has all her greater powers
@joshjosh75983 жыл бұрын
@@sarahhui6542 Ohhh really?? I thought they had equal powers
@sarahhui65423 жыл бұрын
@@joshjosh7598 nope there could only be one ruler of hell I guess, so that means the ruler would have the greater power since she’s split as two people
@aufsandgebaut3 жыл бұрын
technically she is half angel& half mortal..
@carljosephacanto13323 жыл бұрын
Dorcas ang Agatha scene really breaks my heart, I know it's only a few seconds but that really hurts 😭
@alfiecavallaro3 жыл бұрын
Rest in Peace Sabrina Spellman
@Valerie_lepelchfp3 жыл бұрын
I cried for like 10 minutes
@ernests7613 жыл бұрын
And sabrina morningstar
@erwinmendoza86963 жыл бұрын
I just finished it 😭😭😭
@geminizodiac75793 жыл бұрын
i have mental break down after seeing the ending
@t_929293 жыл бұрын
Same guys I had a full on mental breakdown and now I’m forcing my friend to watch it.
@virlinehonore97673 жыл бұрын
how dare they make me cry at the end, honestly so rude 😭😭😭 but i'm glad nick was there with her
@hobimysunshine73 жыл бұрын
so sad that it's ending :( can't wait to see part 4
@530misha3 жыл бұрын
I wish they would do season 5 to actually wrap it up
@samhewsn3 жыл бұрын
yeah it was so rushed and brinas death was so abrupt
@Alexis-dq5ko3 жыл бұрын
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@amberschultz92343 жыл бұрын
Well they do it’s seasons in parts. So part 4 just finished & was released December 31,2020!
@celina38103 жыл бұрын
Actually it had part 1a and 1b(season 2) then the actual 2 and 3 so it is theoretically part 4 we want now
@chumairaanindayudina44023 жыл бұрын
His first kiss on stage make my heart melts 🥺🥺💜💜
@divineu94473 жыл бұрын
Netflix needs to bring this masterpiece back
@KR-dk3eb Жыл бұрын
I want moreeeeee Sabrina episodes ❤❤
@nirvanawilder98753 жыл бұрын
When titi said we were going to be so mad I was like DUHHHHH😂🤦🏼♀️
@rinhubi74473 жыл бұрын
Nick and Sabrina my loves found peace 💔 her final “Goodbye Nicholas” I don’t know what I’m going to do my heart just hurts Also I shipped Caliban and Sabrina Morningstar too and was so upset at how they just brushed their relationship off we didn’t see any moments of them bonding and it hurt that Caliban couldn’t mourn his wife 💔
@Alexis-dq5ko3 жыл бұрын
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@mariaa.15723 жыл бұрын
Caliban dindn’t love her, he was using her to be the king of hell. He did his sacrifice because he wanted her to trust him.
@rareandshinytrader3 жыл бұрын
I believe in HBOmax. Please pick the show up. Give us home, give us some magic in 2020-1
@KR-dk3eb Жыл бұрын
I Love Sabrina series ❤❤❤
@morganpettipas91983 жыл бұрын
Y'all know hbo said if the ending had high ratings they would pick up the show? Hence why they made it look like sabrina and nicks "afterlife" was just like the void. They left it open if someone will pick it up!
@agne10163 жыл бұрын
And I oop where can I find them saying that
@Alexis-dq5ko3 жыл бұрын
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@livingclosedoors82593 жыл бұрын
And sabrina's body was buried in their land, like how many people resurrected while being buried there? Aunt Hilda, Agatha...
@marika62273 жыл бұрын
it already has 365k petitions to bring it back!said by netflix
@morganpettipas91983 жыл бұрын
@@marika6227 actually it had over a million within the first day but netflix still refuses to bring it back. People don't understand that shows like that, the society WAS renewed but because of covid dead lines netflix choose to get rid of the shows completely instead of making fans wait another year or more which is so annoying because we would of
@zhanealexis3 жыл бұрын
They didn’t pay homage to all the ships because Prudence and Ambrose never gave closure. I feel like Prudence only experienced the shitty end of things in this entire series
@aroseinwinter053 жыл бұрын
Agree. Loved tati gabrielle’s pru. She stole my heart from the beginning. Her pain paved the way for her initial vileness. Blackwood was such a prick. Amazing actor.
@matthall1133 жыл бұрын
It will come back, its too good to let it just end. Hoping the cw picks it up. The show just has too many fans 😁
@onyxx57133 жыл бұрын
No. a cw season would be awful
@UtterChaos263 жыл бұрын
@Aron Toulouse I mean its true...cw kinda sucks...look at what they did to Riverdale...
@shehreenasim28193 жыл бұрын
Loved the Sabrina chaos missing this show alot... lots of love to the team 💜💜🤗 waiting for the next season plz release it soon
@aufsandgebaut3 жыл бұрын
What a great interview! CAOS will always hold a special place in my heart 💔
@jaredseoadriano85852 жыл бұрын
I still haven't recovered from it... so, kiernan...happy?, joy? but still I LOVE YOU AND THE CAST
@karalynnlovison45963 жыл бұрын
Yay go Gavin! Kissing Kieran for the first time and never kissing anyone WOW!
@fernsvlog19683 жыл бұрын
I cried myself to sleep after watching the ending. It was such a sad ending 😭😭😭😭 Nick didn’t need to give that explanation either. It just made everything worse
@catalinarojas2933 жыл бұрын
@Audrina Ferruccio Sabrina died from bleeding out to get everyone out of the void, Nicholas kills himself basically and they aré reunited in some kind of heaven
@maddierchd13 жыл бұрын
I finished the show a few minutes ago and I can’t stop crying 💔🥺
@savannahheard99763 жыл бұрын
8:54 I didn't even think about the fact that that would be Kiernan and Gavin's last kiss together unless they are casted in another love-interest role omg :/ Gavin did seem pretty sad about that lmfao
@zekelither58143 жыл бұрын
I honestly wouldn’t mind if they left us on a cliff hanger. I love that Nick and Sabrina are endgame but it was just too sad.
@zachralte2763 жыл бұрын
I'm sad and happy at the same time 😭🤒😌
@carmennn79743 жыл бұрын
Anyone talking about Gavin and Kiernan? I meen Gavin is completely in love with Kiernan💖💖💖
@camile24553 жыл бұрын
can't wait for season 4 🥺👉👈
@nimivanity92683 жыл бұрын
i need atleast 2 more seasons of sabrina m not ready to say goodbye
@l.x.s.tg.a.m.x.r84983 жыл бұрын
i want part 5😢
@saraismail54033 жыл бұрын
I miss them so much 😭❤️
@jadegajadhar47103 жыл бұрын
At 19:00, did kiernan really say that there were different versions of the script😳???? Why did they choose that ending😭, I think the other versions would have been better no matter what is was 😂
@virlinehonore97673 жыл бұрын
Jade Gajadhar i think it's cuz originally season 4 wasn't supposed to be the final season, so they had to change it
@Alexis-dq5ko3 жыл бұрын
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@Alexis-dq5ko3 жыл бұрын
@@virlinehonore9767 YESS!! Part 5 was already planned out! It was going to be “battle of the witches” kind of theme...but Netflix decided to not renew it so they had to pretty much rush everything if they wanted a “true ending.”
@virlinehonore97673 жыл бұрын
@@Alexis-dq5ko i would've loved to see that! screw u netflix
@virlinehonore97673 жыл бұрын
@@Alexis-dq5ko signed it
@stephansfx58983 жыл бұрын
I for sure see another network taking Sabrina in
@jsnsbdjsiemens35253 жыл бұрын
I hope your right
@joshjosh75983 жыл бұрын
Let’s all manifest this PLEASE 😭
@tommy50653 жыл бұрын
Tati is so gorgeous 😭
@heatherkeal60063 жыл бұрын
well i’m crying after watching it actually broke my heart so much like did they really have to kill he off and then nick dies to be with her like tf my heart can’t handle that it’s so sad but so sweet what he done, he was so right they were endgame absolutely loved the show though wish their was another season though.
@stiras13 жыл бұрын
The ending was shit. It made me mad, and I am not changing my mind about that. It's like "Oh yeah... Sabrina died, but it's okay because Nick committed suicide so they could be together in death. How romantic." No, it's fucking not. It's not romantic at all, it is fucked up. It glorifies suicide in a way. Not to mention that the ending just left everyone upset because Hilda and Zelda are completely heartbroken after losing Sabrina, and they just have to go on with their lives without her. It was a bad ending, and that really annoys me because I have loved this show since it started.
@mrierie253 жыл бұрын
The ending is one of the worst endings of a show that I have watched ever... and I’ve seen a lot of bad endings. I feel like the entire season was very random with almost no reason to it. Spoilers ahead! From Agatha enlisting Wardwell to Blackwood’s new “church”, the ENTIRE Mambo Marie storyline, Roz finally figuring out that she is a witch, Nick being with Prudence and then out of nowhere misses Sabrina and they are back together, Morningstar Sabrina coming through the mirror with the Endless “Salem” and only her body is found and dies and nothing is said about “Salem”? Also, who the heck was that Luke guy?! I thought he was the Weird, but then he wasn’t, and then he was gone??? The trinket guy was sus too! No explanation of that either! Also, I don’t get the last scene at all. How/why does Nick do that? It’s ridiculous!
@julyy.x3 жыл бұрын
YES the writing is full of plot holes and things that just doesn't make any sense. The plot between Robin and Theo is pretty confusing too, they never really explain what happens to them and their relationship after he moves to the forest
@everydaytales39453 жыл бұрын
I agree, this season had the worst ending😑
@morganroselle14283 жыл бұрын
You could see salem when they went into the mirror. He died because he was in the wrong realm same with Sabrina Morningstar.
@amberbernay3 жыл бұрын
The whole nick thing here’s an explanation to that: Nick told Sabrina they were ENDGAME Meaning they will always be together. Sabrina ends up dying by saving the world! She says her goodbyes. Later on Nick goes to the sea of sorrows basically to drown himself & to commit suicide to be in the after life with Sabrina b/c they are end game. Honestly, i knew him & brina were getting back together from episode 1. He didn’t seem happy with Prudence. 😊
@amberbernay3 жыл бұрын
With the luke explanation as well from what i gathered is that The weird was already in sabrina’s head & body. The weird knew she had a crush on luke. They used his face to get a message through to her.
@ch.venkatasudheer16953 жыл бұрын
Crying after long time heartfully...last episode of Caos.....😭😭😭 want season 5....
@silverguy5263 жыл бұрын
The show LITERALLY contradicted itself with the ending of season 4. In season 3, Sabrina is seen on the side of Zelda's death bed and they are all old including Sabrina. When Hilda wouldn't rise from the dead, Zelda said "that's nonsense, I've seen the future and Hilda lives to be an old crone". So if that's the case, why the fuck is Sabrina dead???
@carljosephacanto13323 жыл бұрын
Sabrina already fucked up the timeline and caused paradox, and remember that mambo marie is now the guardian of life and death (I'm not sure what's that called) she could easily revive all of those who died.
@lalaikangkong72503 жыл бұрын
We need season 5 sabrina wake up!!!
@geminizodiac75793 жыл бұрын
just give us I more season I think the season was rushed and i want a happy ending so i can breath happily
@estellevancol81243 жыл бұрын
I wanted closure between Prudence and Ambrose!
@madialba3 жыл бұрын
Sabrinas white hair just ages Kirnan. But this hair fits. Look how gorgeous this hair is with her skin tone !!! Gosh
@chumairaanindayudina44023 жыл бұрын
This show makes my heart hurt for the ending 😭😭😭😭
@lucyharrison42343 жыл бұрын
i kind of liked the ending. Yes it gave me emotional distress and scarring probably forever BUT sometimes it’s good not to have a complete happy ending
@quovadis91883 жыл бұрын
We want Sabrina! Kiernan is so sweet!
@jw69483 жыл бұрын
Can't believe they cancelled this show!! Freaking Netflix.
@jaygrvnt3 жыл бұрын
Gavin with mustache: YES
@gaq15143 жыл бұрын
Kiernan do be looking stunning
@ilovecupcakes3293 жыл бұрын
Such a good show deserved a Big Bang of an ending!!! 🥺
@theoblack45923 жыл бұрын
Please bring this back !
@redapples42163 жыл бұрын
Hail High Priestess, Zelda Spellman played by Marvelous Miranda Otto 🔥🖤👑 #COVENForever
@JuanRivera-iw3fo3 жыл бұрын
there aren't words to describe how i'm feeling rn. i just finished the last episode and sis............................i can't eve...
@stepmamas3 жыл бұрын
pls that ending shattered me. we need CAOS part 5
@funart96903 жыл бұрын
waiting this show for long😊
@aengusog34153 жыл бұрын
Did you like the ending? 😭💀
@iluvvkeii3 жыл бұрын
it’s 2 am and i’m still waiting for season 4
@gabrielgonzalez56523 жыл бұрын
I was and still am emotionally attached to this show🥺. Literally, it was my favorite show and something I can watch and never get tired of it. Even though I am sad about the ending and happy she is with Nick. I wish there was more. But it is mostly Netflix fault for canceling. But yet River dale keep getting renewed( even though that is the worst show to watch and is so boring). Like how is it keep getting renewed but yeah they canceled Sabrina and IT WAS THE MOST WATCHED AND ALOT OF POEPLE WANTED MORE.
@lucyharrison42343 жыл бұрын
20:00 omg she described it perfectly
@kiernakirkpatrick7223 жыл бұрын
Who else wants to see Zelda and Helda try to bring Sabrina and Nick back to live on the rest of their days.And continue the series of course.
@leratomokone59603 жыл бұрын
Well Tati was right I am mad about the finale😂😂😂😂....but time will heal me
@Hannisbias3 жыл бұрын
Sign the petition to continue the show 😁
@Momofhorror283 жыл бұрын
yea, this season was not it. I am still in shock and cant really process everything that happened. I am sure they wont bring it back for a part 5 but heres to hoping for a riverdale cross over or something.
@musicmakeup84813 жыл бұрын
I wonder how the real demonic and biblical themes affected the cast spiritually? Especially the ones who believe in God, cuz I researched everything and they really got biblical and real with everything.
@justsabria75403 жыл бұрын
Don’t worry we started a petition to save the show.❤️❤️ We loved the show I hate Netflix now.
@lolfala1013 жыл бұрын
It was not good! you can tell how rushed it was and very little episodes for ending a show. I hope HBO Max or warner bros continue it cause there was lots to uncover
@TBHNotGonnaLie3 жыл бұрын
Omg Gavin is just 👌
@charlisse27233 жыл бұрын
she’s right about all the ships.. we even got dorcatha (,:
@kassidypattain3 жыл бұрын
I’m never going to except that it ended I need another season
@allyssagarcia99583 жыл бұрын
19:54 gavin got me on that shakespeare
@feidhaniabdallah3 жыл бұрын
Not Gavin talking about his last kiss with Kiernan😞💔
@e-lee-sah3 жыл бұрын
No one is happy Kieran! We want more!
@ayelamasangcay72443 жыл бұрын
CAOS is the only show I actually love. It's so sad that Netflix canceled it. It's literally one of the best shows on Netflix!!
@theoblack45923 жыл бұрын
I don’t consider it the ending considering aunt Zelda saw the future with a living sabriba in part 3
@alessianotfound15063 жыл бұрын
Still crying for the ending
@momusthafa98973 жыл бұрын
We want more Sabrina
@sabasadeghi67193 жыл бұрын
We want moreeeeeee
@fercho36893 жыл бұрын
I hate Netflix always ends good shows or never complete them.
@chongchang11103 жыл бұрын
I wish they create a spin-off about Edward Spellman (with Georgie Daburas still playing the role) and his early life like the ones in the CAOS comics and they feature the weirdsisters along with it.
@missrache43 жыл бұрын
I’m sad that they cancelled this show 😩 after I finished the last episode I went back to the damn beginning
@BozeDoesGodsWork3 жыл бұрын
Sabrina: *Can I have it all or is that too much cause imma real bad witch and I'd die for love* Netflix:Umm yes and no, your getting cancelled.You got one more season left and a bit of a small budget so make peace with it.But I do like the idea about you dieing for love, might wanna consider that for a good ending. Byyyyeeee!!
@lunamarroncamille19893 жыл бұрын
Woohoo s4 chilling adventures of sabrina can't wait, question she's not really pagan witch so is she a satanic witch I like the ritual aspect of the show I haven't noticed any voodoo or hoodoo what will be the elements of magic in season 4
@lunamarroncamille19893 жыл бұрын
@@beo1282 no season 4 I know what I mean
@bobbiemunoz41913 жыл бұрын
I wish it could get a reboot😭
@angelokarlcanaleta58073 жыл бұрын
Sad that both Tati's show ended
@syeda163 жыл бұрын
i knowww i was disappointed at her small role in season 7 of the 100 so i was really excited to see how she would do in caos and she did amazing!!
@marcusfsproductions3 жыл бұрын
Everyone go sign the save caos petition (it's got 270k signatures so far). It's a longshot but its still a shot ;)
@4fawksake7073 жыл бұрын
Netflix have a habit in cancelling great show. Why can't they cancel first the Riverdale before this show
@ShaunnahBlaney3 жыл бұрын
Riverdale isn’t a Netflix show
@kriyaprashant41413 жыл бұрын
This show deserved better. #covenforever
@tommy50653 жыл бұрын
can the weird sisters get their own spin-off? ☹️☹️
@celina38103 жыл бұрын
Yes and the weirder sisters 2 (Michelle,Miranda and Lucy)I would pay a lot for those