China Airlines Crashes 747 in Chicago | Viral Debrief

[@maxcorey8144]

An a retired A&P mechanic. Back when I worked on the big airplanes on the ramps, taxiways and runways, I saw a lot of stupid things that barely missed being a serious accident. Now I enjoy watching videos from a safe spot. There was a mechanic sucked into an inlet but he hug on to the cowling opening for dear life inside and they shut it down in time.

[@john-zf1yb]

What did he loose his legs?

[@dannydaw59]

Wow that guy was into engines I guess.

[@wfemp_4730]

@@john-zf1yb No, luckily he had tightened them up earlier that day...

[@annemargaret5562]

Good grief!

[@elongatedshrew5902]

How far away can those engines suck you in if you say weigh like an average of 180 pounds?

[@PintoPopProductions]

"We regret to inform you that your luggage was temporarily misplaced on board a China Airlines 747, but has been located on the tarmac at your departure airport." "That's great! I was afraid you were going to tell me it was in a million pieces in an industrial shredder or something." "Yes, about that..."

[@ptorres7951]

I'm honestly more sad for those people who lost their luggage lol

[@Ogmuffinman01010]

lol

[@mgrudt5024]

Your luggage just went through one of the largest shredders, we can retrieve it, but you'll never be able to wear those clothes again!

[@jeepdude7359]

Taxi Way… not “tarmac”

[@ChrispyByDefault]

Seeing that whole container get sucked into the engine like it was nothing was crazy! Great video as always!

[@ibrahim-sj2cr]

bits of metal came out the engine looking like paper

[@lobsterbark]

Engine would need to be taken apart and inspected after that. It would probably be mostly fine, but probably isn't good enough for airplanes. Expensive work.

[@pokeysd3886]

Hey Kelsey, I don't know if you are still reading comments on this, but I'd sure like to see your comments on the 737 crash in China. Thanks for doing what you do!

[@lila2028]

Yes!

[@Tachychick]

Please!

[@chssky]

@@dirttdude literally facts right here

[@childofcascadia]

@dirtdude What? It crashed. Its on international media all over the world, including bystander cell phones and dashcams not just US "news" organizations. The worlds way bigger than america.

[@DementedDamsels]

I’d also love to hear his thoughts, but I think more information needs to come out before he will have much to speak on

[@Kevin_747]

I spent 23 years in the left seat of 747's. That spot is not that difficult if you have your head out of your azz. If the video is normal speed then the taxi speed was excessive. I feel for the pilots. They get to sit at that long table in the company headquarters for a debrief. That one looks like the Captain might be looking for a new job. I taxied like a grandma in a toyota corolla in those wx conditions.

[@74gear]

Ya me too but if those guys continue to fly I’m sure they’ll be taxing a lotttt slower in the future.

[@DrFiero]

Check the timer in the top left corner - seconds is moving at a normal speed! So, not sped up.

[@jingle1161]

Looks like they were slipping sideways. Dont think thrust reversers would have helped much.

[@Liggliluff]

You can see the second tick at about normal speed

[@glasshalffull8625]

This happened decades ago when I was a brand new pilot. I had finished my training in C-150s and got checked out for Piper Warrior. Anyway, it was my first solo flight in the Warrior and afterwards I was taxiing to park. Only problem is I had forgotten the Warrior has a hand brake instead of the toe break on the rudder pedals as the Cessna. I was almost standing on the pedals to try to stop the plane and was really Iucky I wasn’t zipping around the airport or I certainly would have hit another aircraft on the line. The Flight Gods saved my A$$ that day!!!

[@thetaterman7317]

Hey Kelsey, love watching your videos proud truck driver here. There is a huge difference between an empty and loaded trailer. But just to point out it is easier to stop a loaded trailer in adverse weather conditions. When I was in training to become a truck driver I had an empty trailer stopped a little too quickly in the rain, the trailer jackknife onto the shoulder luckily there was nobody there at that moment but that taught me you can't drive the same in the rain as you can on dry roads luckily that was years ago and I have plenty experience now

[@MrNicoJac]

"Hello there, I'm from the airline company, and I'm afraid your luggage was lost." - Lost? What do you mean lost? How can you lose sight of a suitcase?? "Oh, well, we _do_ know _where_ it is, it's just that it's been shredded into millions of tiny pieces..." - Wait wha- "... by an aircraft engine" - 😳

[@adde9506]

I seriously doubt they'd tell you. You'd get the standard $100 dollars and a promise to call you when it's located. And then the rarely used but still standard "estimate the value of your lost belongings and we'll reimburse you" a week later.

[@wgraham2410]

Those cans were all empty.

[@lionelwalton6784]

😂😂😂😂

[@jandoinc]

I can definitely understand; I've had my share of close calls when I was a mechanic for the big airlines. I've had to use the trust reversers to keep an MD-90 I was taxing from skidding into a snow bank...thanks for all the videos you share with us!

[@mneugent7658]

Absolutely correct about the tractor-trailer comparison. Our trucks are much better suited for having weight on the suspension as opposed to no extra weight. They're designed to handle load, and when running empty they can act like a balsa wood toy airplane. They can just kind of drift when trying to control the vehicle. Especially on snowy/slick ground.

[@Redbikemaster]

Owner-op here. I was impressed with the comparison. Like you said, it's absolutely right.

[@arinerm1331]

As I understand your type of driving, there is one type of load that's arguably more difficult to haul than an empty trailer. Driver friends of mine tell me that hauling sides of beef is extremely tricky, because as you know it hangs from the roof of the trailer.

[@mneugent7658]

@@arinerm1331 That's more of a constantly shifting load/inertia thing than the empty trailer issue. The problem with the empty trailer is less weight on the wheels and that gives problems on slick surfaces and in high winds. What your friend is referring to is the same kind of sensation the driver gets when hauling large quantities of liquids. Especially bulk liquids. When you start/stop, make large turns, etc you can feel the freight's momentum still trying to push and pull the trailer until it settles. You get used to it as a professional and know how to mitigate it as mush as possible. In those huge tanker trucks you see they have sets of baffling inside the tank to mitigate the sloshing of the liquids otherwise on any kind of hasty stop the truck would likely be pushed forward by the surge of the liquids.

[@StefanBacon]

Worst is bobtail. Pulling an empty isn't too bad in an underpowered fleet truck. Without a trailer, most tractors are totally undrivable.

[@Redbikemaster]

@@StefanBacon yup. Had to recently bobtail for a whole day driving from TN to northern IL for personal reasons. Was sawing at the wheel all day.

[@frejaforrest795]

I just wanted to say, I randomly found your videos a few days ago and have been pretty much binge-watching them since. Full of lots of interesting information, some genuinely funny ones, and I love that you don't tear other pilots down for making mistakes but give a fair and balanced assessment with suggestions for improvements. It just gives off a really nice atmosphere, and as someone who does not enjoy long-haul flights as a passenger, I would be very happy if you were my pilot, if you ever decide to swap freight for commercial :D I want to add something mean so I get in a mean comments video... but I got nothing.

[@74gear]

Well I do passengers sometimes but they’re usually professional athletes or military personnel

[@williammedenwald502]

Me too just found his video's on Saturday, been watching them ever since. They are very informative!

[@ivorybelle6072]

Ditto

[@boruff68]

I do as well. I have learned A LOT about avation from what Kelsey explains to us in more basic terms . He breaks it down pretty well on here...

[@wgraham2410]

Thanks for not defending the China Airlines Cargo pilots! I work Airport Ops at ORD and when that video came out people kept saying it was ice or to much snow on the taxilane but they came in WAY to hot! The contractors just made a pass there and if you look in front of the aircraft on the right in that video, you can see a large blade (snow equipment) almost get run over by the aircraft. Thankfully he was already in reverse and just kept reversing out of the way! He was sacred shitless needless to say! We have pictures where you can see the centerline so it wasn't an issue of not seeing markings.

[@wahahah]

Share a link to the picture? Bc even if the markings are visible, in these kind of conditions is possible for humans still miss them.

[@wgraham2410]

@@wahahah you are correct, small deviations from centerline are expected and actually planned for in design groups for RWY/TWY Safety Areas. But these guys were WAY off centerline and past the shoulder markings. So if the American cargo ramp wasn't there, the left mains and possibly nose gear would've been in grass. But they are no stranger to that, doing a touch and go on the grass of RWY 10L and not saying anything. Unfortunately I can't share a picture as it's under investigation and I value my job. I'm sure "what you haven't seen" KZbin channel will get it eventually though lol

[@razzwilmz7970]

i saw that too. i thought it was a loader staged to off-load the plane. Dangerous driving none the less.

[@petertsai09]

I heard the CAL pilot was trying to avoid hitting a nearby UPS aircraft nearby because the ramp wasn't deiced so the brake didn't work and Reverse thrust was used as a last measure. Can you verify that? thank you

[@Snow-xi2by]

For those who may not know, this plane from Taiwan, China. Shit

[@eclectichoosier5474]

I worked in a factory that made leading edges for wings. Our price for just one of those the formed sheet metal leading edges was usually upwards of $4,000 US each. That was for an unpainted, unpolished part with no holes drilled, and no milling, sold to a factory or wholesaler. Add in the work of fitting it and adding in any gussets, and then installing it, and it could easily cost $50,000 - and that doesn't include the loss of the use of the aircraft for that time. Or the test flights after major work is done. And the leading edge wouldn't be the only thing damaged in a collision like that.

[@alexandermartincausey7333]

As a professional driver, I'm looking at the tanker incident in a different perspective. I think it was simply a case of pedal misapplication. As Kelsey quite correctly points out, there's NO way he doesn't know he's hit the first plane. As a knee-jerk reaction, he slams his foot to the floorboard. Unfortunately, his foot was over the accelerator rather than the brake. The pedal box in these cabover trucks is really tight - I drive one for my day job. In that model the pedals may even be identical in shape and size - I've seen trash trucks like that, and this may be an identical cab-chassis but with a tank on the back as opposed to a trash bin.

[@PFCKruger]

Iw as thinking the same thing, he simply wasn't able to stop his truck. Either from shock or, if you look at how much his cabin was damaged, maybe it wasnt even possible to apply the brakes.

[@dirttdude]

yep! what a great comment, i was just about to remark that 747 cockpits are identical to garbage truck controls. pilots and garbage men can easily move from one career to another

[@smoothknyte]

I think another possibility is he saw the red truck coming, got distracted by that, heard the crunch of the first wing, spun around in his seat to go "what the heck did i just hit?" and then while he was looking for that he went right into the second. Just a bad bad day.

[@CynthiaRaxter]

@@smoothknyte i did that. I ran over the garden hose with the riding mower. While trying to figure out what I hit i smashed into the pumphouse. Sears Roebuck Riding Mower 0 - concrete block pumphouse 10.

[@smoothknyte]

@@CynthiaRaxter Exactly. and also I forgot to add, when you're driving a fuel truck a sound of impact at the back is much scarier than the sound of impact at the front.

[@woodencoasterfan]

You are 100% correct with heavier loads handling better on icy and snow covered surfaces. I’m a truck driver with over a million and a half accident free miles and I pray for heavy loads during wintertime. I also increase my following distances and reduce my speed in icy conditions.

[@adamrosenbaum6518]

Hey Kelsey, I can very much appreciate your comparison to it being similar to handling a heavy truck. When the roads are icy I always have the mentality that my brakes are essentially useless and I just have to adjust my driving accordingly with the conditions and use my transmission and engine braking to slow down safely, maybe these guys had only flown in warmer climates🤷‍♂️. Thanks for all your great videos, always have appreciated them

[@74gear]

Just a couple of guys and our 18 wheelers. No if they’re flying this plane they’ve flown into Chicago, Anchorage and a bunch of other cold icy places. We may never know what the voice recorders said. Glad you’re enjoying the videos

[@imanuelcaushi4711]

The timing of this video is mesmerising, seeing how only a handful of hours after this was posted a China Airlines crashed...

[@zackmusic570]

Yea, it’s crazy

[@dalewong7643]

The China Airlines in the video is based in Taiwan. The crash you are thinking about is a China Eastern 737 that happened in China.

[@chrisschack9716]

The 747 video on the ramp wasn't sped up, there was a timestamp you could sometimes see. By my rough estimate, they were going 12 knots (simply nose passed a point at 30 seconds, tail passed it at 42, but the plane might have twisted so it could have been faster).

[@junxianglan2907]

12 kn still sounds fast.

[@whoknows8264]

@@junxianglan2907 it is

[@tomriley5790]

I wonder if their brakes had failled/not been working properly from further back - I doubt they intended to come in at that speed.

[@MikeyFirst]

I like the expressions on your face while you're watching the clips. I'm a paragliding pilot and those things you tell about assessing the situation you're in and the processing of the response/action to that situation, is exactly the same, and this you learn by doing and simulating it a lot. Keep the vids coming.

[@KarmaFlight]

Kelsey, we have both been on that ramp many times. They never should have been going that fast on the South Cargo Ramp, particularly under those conditions. I wish we could hear the voice recorder. I saw this jet myself not he ramp afterwards. It was a mess!

[@Supersheep.]

Can you make one about MU5735 (The recent Chinese plane crash)

[@ralph17p]

I can sympathise with those pilots - I remember as a teen, mowing the lawn and running over the mower's power lead. The annoying thing was, I saw it half a second before I went over it, but it took my brain that half second to think, "Oh, shit", rather than "maybe I should stop pushing". Not quite in the same league as destroying a plane, but I don't think our brains run the numbers when figuring out how quickly to act.

[@matthewmcclain1316]

I can totally relate to that. 😂 we all make some pointless mistakes here and there.

[@WitchidWitchid]

I did a similar thing with a snowthrower. I saw the plastic trash bag partly covered in snow ahead of me about a half second before I hit it. It got scooped up by the mechanism, torn apart and blew uaed Kitty Litter everywhere.

[@travelbugse2829]

@@WitchidWitchid I bet when your other half found out, the **** really hit the fan...

[@pauly260]

I know for a fact Kelsey is wrong. I showed this video to my dad, who works for United as a maintenance chief. He made a comment about how the pilot must have been distracted, possibly by texting. My mom overheard the entire conversation we were having and jumped in. My mom started yelling about how “Mister Professional” never makes mistakes & someone moved the handicapped sign, hence why she hit it. Besides, she was in a parking lot driving at six miles an hour and her boss needed the text now. She was screaming about it not her fault that cars are made so cheaply today that a six MPH collision with a handicapped signpost cost dad $3000 in damages. My dad got really upset and screamed at her that she was going a helluva lot faster than six, she could have looked up while texting so she wouldn’t hit the two other parked cars & the whiskey bottle she hides in her dresser doesn’t make her KZbin’s reigning champion on aviation or car insurance law. Mom yelled back that the red headed floozy that lives down the block seems to need flight lessons in dad’s Cessna quite a bit. Dad barked back that she’s a nice lady he knows from church & he’s flying her so she can get photos for a property dispute she’s having. Mom lost her cool and threw my phone at dad. Dad picked up a chair and threw it at the TV, breaking my PS5. Those two screamed at each other until my red headed neighbor stopped by & explained everything to mom. She said she is a lesbian, so her and dad wouldn’t be like that anyway. After she left, mom and dad started kissing a lot then ran upstairs giggling together. So, thanks to Kelsey’s stupid video, I can’t play Call Of Duty. So Kelsey, if you’re reading this, you’re wrong. Live with that, jerk face.

[@danielhawley6817]

@@pauly260 clever - it might play as a comic book

[@marv5078]

Shout out to all the truck drivers watching! Maximum respect for you guys!!

[@raven4k998]

well even the chinese get into planes crashes as you can see🤣🤣🤣

[@Odin029]

That 747 came through like some of that baggage owed it money, and that was the last warning. Next time that 747 sees that bag, its going to get ugly.

[@L4N4OnPaws]

74 GEAR IS THE BEST KZbinR!

[@topthrilldragster20]

I was a baggage handler at O'hare for 3 years. Those carts are very heavy

[@AzazelsWings]

Is that what they sucked in? Luggage?

[@DS-wo8wr]

@@AzazelsWings This is a cargo ramp at ORD. The container that got sucked into the #1 engine looked like an LD3. Empty, they weigh about 75 kilos--Loaded with freight-they can weigh several thousand kilos. So, to answer your question, if this container was loaded, which I don’t think it was, it would have been loaded with airfreight-not luggage.

[@AzazelsWings]

@DS2353 thank you so much for taking the time to explain, I appreciate you. ♡

[@TheBrownSys]

Would really like to hear your assessment of the China Eastern Boeing 737-800 that crashed today killing all on board.

[@abdullahnaeem5349]

Fax shot was crazy

[@Maxid1]

5:24 I was stationed on an aircraft carrier in the 70s. We had an f14 pilot waiting to taxi to the catapult. He was between two jets that were being moved to the elevator and were pulled at the same time. He thought he was rolling backwards so he slams his breaks to no effect. I think he killed his engines and did one other thing that I don't recall but it didn't stop him. Finally he dropped the knee (front landing gear) which slammed a few millions dollars in technology in the nose against the flight deck. I can only imagine how he felt when he climbed out and saw his wheels were still chocked.

[@john-zf1yb]

What happened to him?

[@jjohnston94]

I've heard of people pulling that as a prank at a stoplight. When conditions allow, start backing up and watch the guy in the car next to you start jumping on his brakes.

[@cedrienenglish6344]

@@jjohnston94 as childish as it is I still do that from time to time 😂

[@Maxid1]

@@john-zf1yb I don't recall. I was ships company, not airwing. I never heard the result.

[@kitsunelegend7976]

Its a crazy experience let me tell you. As a trucker in the US, I've had multiple times where I've backed up into a parking spot at a truck stop, set my parking brakes, and then the truck I parked next to started slowing driving forward to leave. Especially when tired, you instantly think you're rolling backwards, so I end up slamming my foot on the brakes and reaching for my parking brakes only to realize I'm not actually moving. Its a real heart attack/brown pants inducing moment of shear panic, and you totally feel like the worlds biggest idiot afterwards lmao

[@kd5byb]

About 20 years ago, I was on an early-morning commuter flight from KHSV to probably KATL. Apparently, there was no ground crew or something, because to back away from the gate, they used the thrust reversers. I thought it was strange, but all the other PAX were chill so..."when in Rome..." ;) REALLY enjoy the channel! You and Mentor are the best there is on here. :)

[@Michael_Wood]

Always the professional. I like your explanation of situational awareness, Kelsey! Great video!

[@onlinemodus]

He looks like Voldemort

[@laras678]

@@onlinemodus ...and?

[@onlinemodus]

@@laras678 No nobody else, jusr him.

[@74gear]

@@onlinemodus wait nobody else? Not even Voldemort looks like Voldemort?

[@74gear]

Glad you enjoyed it thanks for watching Mwirish

[@billcooke4413]

Hey Kelsey I kind of like when there is no music during the clips I like seeing and hearing your reaction just a thought keep up good work thank you

[@kenbrown2808]

on the fuel truck, I can't see well enough to be certain, but it looked to me like there was no driver in the truck while it was moving. there didn't appear to be any control input going on. I suspect it was an automatic transmission, and the driver jumped out without taking it out of gear.

[@jackofalltradesmasterofnon4835]

My thought as well. If there was a driver, you can clearly see the cabin being deformed from the impact with the wing so its likely that a driver would be shocked/wounded/incapacitated. The impact could also have caused a mechanical failure making it impossible to control the truck..

[@tehpw7574]

It goes without saying that the driver was fired... but that alone won't replace the $$$ spent on both repairs of the planes or probable lawsuits from injured on the Jet bridge. All fuel trucks have some form of automatic trans. What is varied is the engine and bells & whistles that come with each unit. Example: on a Former ASIG now Menzies fuel truck, in 2014, the unit had some BS emissions device that required the unit to driven at speed along the airport parameter at CLE. Like most airports on the cheap, the actual 'fleet' of vehicles is a mixed bag of make/models in the inventory.

[@margotrosendorn6371]

Of all the vehicles to roll off without you, the fuel truck is one of the worst...

[@MrYfrank14]

I dont know how airport fuel trucks do it, but many trucks use a PTO to deliver engine power to the pump or whatever the truck is using. Sometimes the PTO controls are next to the pump, or whatever. Driver may have been outside of the truck operating the pump, increased idle to pump, truck was in gear, CRUNCH.

[@Nunofurdambiznez]

Dude.. I'm not sure how much more adorable you can get, but, today's video proves you are absolutely THEE most adorable pilot around!

[@wongowonga]

It looks possible that the plane at 8:05 saw the person in the way of a right turn. The pilot could well have made that split second decision that you were talking about. After all, planes are expensive but can be fixed. Humans are much more costly on the conscience. Did he turn left to save the guy? I know I would have.

[@verybarebones]

Yeah, no matter what corporate says, there are things money can't pay for.

[@onlinemodus]

I think voldemort explained it very well in the video

[@toddsmith8608]

Pilatus was still going way too fast. The ramp area is basically a parking lot, you should taxi slow enough that you are able to stop quickly if another aircraft or vehicle pulls out in front of you. You only apply enough thrust to get moving, then reduce. The Pilatus appeared to continue accelerating. Why? Who knows.

[@avfx111]

@@toddsmith8608 the pilot was probably more focused on turning left than slowing down, because turning would be better than braking at 10knots ...

[@ginaquad3305]

Years ago, I was driving in a van on the ramp to meet an aircraft on a hardstand. There are roadways on the ramp just like there are on the street for cars. When the big truck in front of us stopped, so did we. But when the van started rolling forward and was about to hit the truck, I started to panic. Then we looked up and saw the 747 engine coming right towards the truck. We weren't rolling forward. The truck was backing up to avoid getting hit by the aircraft

[@ryanwho4433]

I've been that tanker before. I backed into a tug to avoid an aircraft. Tug operator was fuming mad and demanded my job, your company aircraft would have made it much worse. Pilot lost his job, tug driver never apologized to me. Later when I was hired by that airline, I learned he had a reputation of being a dick. So I called him dick and refused to learn his name. Again tried to have my job for it because I was a disrespectful probation agent. Told him to eat shit in the managers office, union rep laughed. Miss that rep.

[@Jay-dz1qy]

These videos are wild 😳 I'm just glad no one is seriously hurt. Love your videos Kelsey! I hope you have a long, safe career in aviation 😁

[@trentcruise3084]

Kelsey's my Dad thank you for the great comment

[@baseballmomof8]

Waiting to see four bars 😉

[@moonmanmoonman9400]

@@trentcruise3084 LMAO sure bud

[@trentcruise3084]

@@moonmanmoonman9400 Thank you for subscribing and watching my Dad's channel. Your support is appreciated.🤣

[@trentcruise3084]

@Ttothepose Yes and I must add, My Dad was a little bit upset by my comment. But he's ok now😊In fact, given that the cats out of the bag, My Dad is going to feature me in one of his future Videos. Look forward to seeing you all.

[@Chucklesrailarchive]

Hi Kelsey Always great videos thanks. Ice and snow, stopping a train with leaves on the rail can also be a nightmare. It,s rather like a 600 ton or more pair of ice skates.

[@Guantar90]

I landed about 15-30 mins before the 747 that morning in Chicago. Where they likely taxiing a little fast yes. But I definitely had some difficulty stopping my E175 as well it was terrible conditions on the taxiways. Not gonna totally out the blame on the pilots for this one.

[@Boeman767]

So the taxiways were terrible and he was still taxiing at that speed and just before turning onto stand? Sorry but in conditions like those I always assumed it was icy and taxied accordingly. 5 kts would have been pushing it in that location.

[@noahrivera2092]

You gotta do the china crash the just happend please

[@marigeobrien]

One thing I love about your videos is just that you're a pilot and seem like a regular guy. Pilots -- along with doctors, lawyers, judges, politicians and movie stars -- are some of the mystical people in our society. They're the people most others never know on a personal basis. We only know them in their professional capacity. I even wonder, sometimes, if doctors ever go to the food store. They might. Unless it was my own doctor, I wouldn't know. Same with all the others. Besides all the normal stuff (like going for milk or bread) they just don't seem like they ever have a conversation with average people. Not outside of their professional capacity. And, even though you are talking about flying, it's interesting to hear your views and attitudes about these things. Thank you.

[@hamsterama]

My sister and her husband are specialist physicians. Both are brilliant, high IQ people. I can assure you that doctors are just normal people. My sister is not a mystical being, she's just a regular person who just happens to be good at math and science. Doctors go grocery shopping just like everyone else. Oh, and my sister's husband has the sense of humor of a 12 year old boy. He thinks fart jokes are funny.

[@marigeobrien]

@@hamsterama I'm sure they are. But they are mystical to the average person who never knows them outside of medicine. I almost think it's deliberate.

[@hamsterama]

@@marigeobrien The average person doesn't think doctors are mystical. That's all in your head. Doctors are just the nerdy kid from high school all grown up, the kid who got straight A+'s on their report card. When you were in high school, did you think the nerdy kids were magical beings who rode on unicorns? I'm guessing the answer is no. You need to change your mindset, because you sound like the type of person vulnerable to malpractice or bad care. Being a doctor is just their day job, they are not authority figures. Once they go home, they're just regular people doing regular people stuff. There's no big conspiracy to keep them hidden from the public.

[@mikelakner5622]

Thank you for never being crude. It adds to your credibility.

[@zeberdee1972]

That's no way to load cargo and baggage into a 747 !!! 🙂

[@toddsmith8608]

You're not supposed to load them through the cowling?

[@kerrryschultz2904]

That was just a pilot run of a test of how to shred bulky items similar to how a tree chipper reduces the total volume of a tree top into a small space. That way all those big bulky items would take less space so as to allow maximum weight on the plane. Once flown back to China with the cheap labor the bits and pieces would be glued and reassembled and no one would know the difference. Not sure is engine maintenance would increase though.

[@shuttleman27c]

I'm a ramp agent and bring in planes every day. Sometimes pilots will come in super fast and sometimes they will come in at a crawling speed from the beginning of the line. Sometimes they will go another foot or 2 after I give the x and sometimes they stop the very moment my sticks barely overlap to start an x

[@palanthis]

6:19 - It was at that moment he realized, that this was his last day working anywhere near aircraft.

[@lionelwalton6784]

It was at , "THAT" , moment, he just KNEW that he had "F"lowered up......🙈

[@danielkb250]

today (one day after you made this video) china crashed a 737 in the mountains

[@geebonzo]

To hit one jet with your fuel truck is almost understandable, but to hit two suggests carelessness.

[@danielwardin4688]

You're channeling Oscar Wilde! Good one!

[@randysmith9715]

Especially that he ran over two warning poles!

[@joshgoodman5667]

Years ago, my shop supervisor was doing a high speed taxi in a Piper Aztec when a fuel truck pulled out in front of him. His only two choices were to hit the fuel truck or a line of 152's and 172's. Fortunately, the driver saw him at the last second and got out of the way. When I heard the Aztec squealing tires, it sure got my attention! When he climbed out, he said he was done for the day.

[@agentv1240]

It could've also been something along the lines of a diabetic episode. I've seen a friend's parent do basically the exact same thing in a windstar.

[@halfdeadfactorygirl1824]

I just recently stumbled onto your channel and I think your videos are great! I'm a nervous flier but love to travel so I just endure it. Your videos have really helped me overcome this "lack of control" anxiety! Thanks for what you do!

[@hsbvt]

Ground ops crews on the first clip..."Well, that's going to be a fun write-up..." The 2nd one I'm thinking the guy is no longer employed...3rd going too fast and hitting some ice maybe? Great video Kelsey! Have a great week everyone!

[@Ny_babs]

I love how humble he is, he flies one of the most expensive planes ever built, and makes comments about being average intelligence.

[@alexclement7221]

Former truck driver here; just for comparison, a fully loaded 747 is roughly the weight of 6 fully loaded 18-wheelers.

[@cdesha]

Only 6? I would think it’s more.

[@mytech6779]

I suppose it depends on state but around here a most trucks are licensed at 60-70k, 100k is a bit rare. The 747-4 has a gross of 880k and -8 is 970k. Which is 12-13 fully loaded 70k 18-wheelers. Empty is 435k, payload 295k (adds up less than gross, the balance can be used for fuel.) Former 767 load planner here: We had low density cargo so volume limited but it was about 10 trailers of cargo on a 767-300 (the mid size model).

[@bjbeardse]

6? Try 24 bucko. Imma bet you have a few scale tickets in your short driving history there hand.

[@mytech6779]

@@bjbeardse Ha, You got it just as wrong in the opposite direction.

[@mytech6779]

Oh and the 767 has about 25-35k per tire. Not much bigger than truck tire but 36ply rated 230psi.(and like 250 mph) 8 mains and 2 nose (smaller and 24 ply) 777 and 747 have more tires, 12 mains and 16 mains respectively. HA! I just realized the 747 is an 18 wheeler!

[@ravenlord4]

I swear, the first one looks like a scale model set. Even after several re-watches.

[@ccreutzig]

A scale model set shredding one of the cargo boxes? Damn, those things get really realistic these days.

[@ravenlord4]

@@ccreutzig These days? Try the last 50+ years. Kubrick's "A Space Odyssey" was done in 1968 and the miniature effects still hold up today. TMYK ;)

[@timengineman2nd714]

First story: I'm surprised that you didn't point out the guy in a forklift, crashing into things just to get as far as possible from the China Air 747!

[@jobertding9316]

China air Boeing 737 crashed after he posted the video

[@zuluwhiskey9049]

@@jobertding9316 this is China airlines, belongs to Taiwan, the 737 crashed belongs to mainland China’s China eastern airlines

[@Nypartcannon]

Crazy timing on this Chinese related video.

[@munozcampos]

The Fuelers are unaware of their vehicles size similar to common folks renting a large size Uhaul. I known. It takes a couple of weeks to realize and drive a a much larger vehicle. Truck driver here speaking.

[@SirFloofy001]

2:30 can confirm, fully loaded semi-trucks ride smoother, have more traction in poor weather, and stop sooner then an empty truck, not to mention the wind can blow a fully loaded truck back and forth in its lane so driving an empty truck in strong winds is like piloting a sailboat in a storm.

[@toddsmith8608]

except in a sailboat you can reduce sail, fall off, change course, etc

[@steelefarmllc142]

I don't think he (fuel truck) "Ran off". If you look close, when he hit the first one, the cab of the truck gets thrown back. He gets pushed back in the cab as well. Either he got disoriented from the first hit, or more likely, the cab getting moved pulled on a throttled cable and increased engine RPM. All that said, where the heck was his guide person? That would have prevented the whole thing. PS Always enjoy your video's

[@kenbrown2808]

I don't see a yellow vest in the cab at all, and when the person is looking into the cab, you can see there isn't much room to hide one. I think it was a no driver scenario.

[@rabbit251]

I loaded UPS jets for years at Portland. One December we were (one of crews) was de-icing a 747. The jet is really big so we use truck with a bucket where a person then sprays the formula on the jet. For safety purposes there is a guide, same as a wing walker, to make sure the truck doesn't hit anything. These guides always carry lighted batons to make sure you can see them. For some unknown reason the guide positioned himself under the wing they were de-icing. If can't guess how this plays out, he's getting sprayed with the formula and again, for some unknown reason, he doesn't tell the truck to stop but instead cowers trying to avoid the formula. The person in the bucket realizing they were about to hit the plane yelled for the driver to stop but the pumps on those trucks are really loud. The jet was grounded for 4 days in the middle of December. I took a day for UPS to find a replacement 747. We had to wait another 3 days for the FAA to come out with their engineers to inspect the plane and say that it was ok to fly. Everyone on that crew was immediately fired, of course. We heard later that it cost UPS $4,000,000 for the replacement jet. At our airport we always ran really tight ship. Later that month one of the new guys hired to help with the Christmas traffic drove over the line separating our cargo space from the taxi way. The tower saw and it reported it and he was fired within a few minutes. I cringe at when I fly into some airports and see the lax wing walkers and ground crew not following procedures. There are a lot of rules and most of them are there for safety. As Kelsey points out, airplanes are expensive equipment and it's really easy to get sucked into the engine if you get too close. That almost happened to our clerk who wasn't paying attention when a jet was pulling in. We usually all wear earplugs at that time because of the noise. Luckily the guide immediately crossed his batons to stop the plane and the suction knocked her down to the ground before she could get pulled into the plane. Yeah, she was fired immediately. And the pilots weren't happy because they had to stick around early in the morning to fill out an incident report.

[@MsJubjubbird]

He might have also just been trying to find a good place to park before he got out to talk to someone

[@djs2006]

@@kenbrown2808 I think you are right. There doesn't appear to be a driver in the first part (collisions). The video is stopped and, later, restarted with a worker looking at the damage. I would expect the worker in the work truck would have been at the scene. Since only one person is looking, I am assuming that he is from the work truck.

[@chrishill6729]

so what is your understanding of the current 747 crash in china what do you think is the main factors that could cause such a terrible thing

[@yrunaked4]

that moment you realize its cold but you're coming in hot! 🤣

[@robertheymann5906]

By far the best aviation channel!

[@mwestie12]

Just an FYI. Those cargo cans aren't really that heavy when they are empty. 2 people can easily lift one of the small ones. Or one strong person can manhandle one. Now the ones that are bigger than the one that got sucked in can be manhandled by 3 people when empty.

[@garymcaleer6112]

In 1974 I flew from DC to NYC once a week in Eastern DC9. Always enjoyed the flights. Only two events I faced: 1st just after take off, the luggage compartment opened and we had to turn back. 2nd, while returning from La Guardia, there was huge storm causing a lot of turbulence. I went to the front and asked the captain about plane safety. He said, "In these conditions a prop plane is safer."

[@slimgoodman]

Well this aged well a little too well.

[@Shasha_Mynx]

Fill me in?

[@slimgoodman]

@@Shasha_Mynx just a day after a China airlines crashed properly so just an odd coincidence

[@larryehrlich57]

As an X cargo pilot flying DC-10's and MD-11's all over the globe...you never pull into a parking space without "ground handlers" guilding you. Otherwise you sit and wait for a ground handler to arrive. If it takes 20 minutes for the ground handlers to arrive...that's more money in the your pocket because you are being paid any time the engines are running!

[@Alirezarz62]

"I've been in a car crash myself and I can only imagine the feelings" perfect time to hear that just had a terrible car crash 3 hours ago!

[@fj59]

Hope everyone is doing okay, glad to see you’re still here to comment!! 🙏

[@dongleberry4397]

First time in a civilized country traffic? N.O.intentended.

[@Alirezarz62]

@@fj59 Thank you for the kind words. Thankfully no one was injured and I had insurance so all is good

[@Alirezarz62]

@@dongleberry4397 I'm sorry, What?

[@74gear]

Well sounds like it wasn’t too bad if you’re here 3 hours later. It’ll be a good life lesson if you learn from it.

[@geddesjimmy]

I discovered your channel last week, awesome job; my wife is addicted to it as well. Better than going to the movies.

[@ibanezrg320dx]

The timing of this video is blowing my mind.

[@jemmrich]

It always surprises me just how structurally strong wings are!

[@laratheplanespotter]

The F1 fan in me laughed at that Lewis Hamilton reference 🤣

[@sunninho]

Yep, Lewis Hamilton and his brake magic incident LOL

[@bikeny]

Thank you. Saved me from having to look him up.

[@daemanj]

My wife worked for Hertz. A driver once drove under a wing of a Gulfstream. He hit it, cost 1.2 million in damages.

[@illuderebeliarh1260]

Another one just fell from the sky, 130 people perished. This time a 737

[@stefanhoimes]

Kelsey seems like the kinda guy that just _really_ doesn't like paperwork. That's pretty admirable! I feel like this is a paperwork avoidance video and I'm all for it.

[@michaelsarna2008]

I have a friend that is a 747BCF Captain. He told me that spot can be a b!tch in poor ramp conditions

[@dantheferrariman]

I listen to you everyday as I work driving my truck, thank you so much for the great content im starting my aviation study next year and you've given me such valuable knowledge and you break it down in such a way that it sinks in. keep doing what your doing my man!.really appreciate you

[@jaxbutterfly9186]

This was an amazing one. Makes my day. Your energy is just so delightful.

[@Yokosumari23]

Hey Kelsey! So I've always been curious: how many chief pilots does an airline typically have? How many people is a chief pilot responsible for?

[@behindthen0thing]

One

[@BobbyGeneric145]

My airline has 2,000 pilots. 1 official chief, one at each of 6 bases. The FAA is only concerned about the 1 main guy though.

[@vernyjm]

😂😂😂😂

[@74gear]

Depends on the airline. I’ve been places with one I’ve seen there be a chief pilot at each base. Usually if the base is too big they have an assistant chief to handle all the crying and whining

[@behindthen0thing]

@@74gear yeah chief pilot be like "you fly this airplane now! I dont care if both fms and nav 1 and 2 are MEL'd. We have cargo that needs to go NOW . If you dont like it we will find someone else. There are tons of younger pilots willingll to do your job for less!"

[@gregprince2523]

Spot on with the loaded and empty semi truck comparisons...... empty when braking we bounce and slide.... loaded we squat and grab ahold of the ground quickly

[@danuttall]

Man, how much damage did that cause in the first clip? I imagine engine 1 needs to be replaced and condolences (and hefty cheques) to the owners of the bags that got sucked through it. Engine 2 also looks like it got hit for cowling damage. I think you are looking at millions of dollars of damage to be repaired (in a foreign country) before this thing flies again.

[@jasonmurawski5877]

I would say engine 2 needs to be swapped too. It looked like something got sucked in it too

[@EasyModeFishing]

I know that first clip. They were sliding on the ice. They couldn’t stop.

[@nameunknown007]

Ah god I watched this video and then saw the news about 737 crash in China. China!! I feel bad for the victims

[@richardhall9815]

6:07 The caption for this part should read: "Drunk fuel trucker hits plane, attempts to flee, hits another plane, loses job"🤣

[@jobertding9316]

OMG, China air Boeing 737 crashed a day after you posted the video

[@TheBadCivilServant]

I don't understand Kelsey's animus towards chief pilots. My late grandfather retired as a long-time chief pilot at his airline. He even kept snacks in his office to share!

[@jayzo]

Wow, I'm shocked at how the engine literally just ate those baggage cans, I was expecting more resistance than for it to just disintegrate like that. They're relatively flimsy (compared with the structural strength of the 747 eating it) but they could still do a fair bit of damage.

[@dongleberry4397]

volume against weight.

[@howardtucker2423]

HOW DO YOU GET THAT SIGNED OFF IN THE LOGBOOK? A BIRD STRIKE? CARGO WAGON ATTACK? WE'RE THE TURBO FAN BLADES INSPECTED? I WOULDN'T SIGN IT BACK INTO SERVICE.

[@jjhhandk3974]

I saw a video where a person was sucked into a military jet engine. He survived

[@HDJess]

It's even more viral now, sadly, as one of China Eastern's 737s just crashed.

[@consortiumxf]

There's a medical diagnosis code for that.....V97.33XA - Sucked into jet engine, initial encounter.

[@alpha_echo_diDi]

The 747 was coming in so fast all the pilot had to do is pull up! Then positive rate, gear up…then ignore air traffic controller asking you to get a paper and pen to write down a phone number…

[@GoodLookingGentlemen]

He's on the taxiway

[@caput_in_astris]

@@GoodLookingGentlemen I am assuming this was a joke, not to be taken literally

[@KaiHenningsen]

@@caput_in_astris And in any case, that's why the phone number.

[@GoodLookingGentlemen]

@@caput_in_astris my comment base on harrison ford story where he land on taxi way.

[@rachweishaupt]

Whoa. Your timing with this video 😳

[@samc3617]

'China Airlines Crashes 747' title 10 hours before a China Eastern 737 crashes, that is a horrible coincidence

[@PFLEONARDI0906]

I used to work at air cargo at ORD. These Chaina pilots are always hot in bad WX….no excuse…scratch that equipment for a couple of weeks at minimum LOL. My brother used to work for sky chef and clipped a wing with their truck. Last day he worked there LOL…That one that nose clipped that parked biz jet should have just asserted take off power LOL

[@Hartbreak1]

The plane that crashed with the biz jet seems to be a PC-12. Those do have thrust reverser. I wonder why it ran away like that, probably the pilot forgot the parking brake before startup?

[@douglasleathem622]

@74gear Are we sure there was anyone in it?? It might not have been tied down or chocked correctly and could have just rolled over there. It seems to me that the prop wasn't turning.

[@wdwerker]

Fixing or replacing the 747 engine is probably a multi million dollar job !

[@CorvusUniversus]

The one that crashed with the parked jet is a PC12, it does in fact have thrust reverse.

[@charlesoxley7242]

Even more reason if the pilot saw the person on the ramp to try and avoid them.....if the prop was spinning, that would be a very bad day if that person had gotten hit.

[@74gear]

I thought they made some with that and others without it. I didn’t want to make the assumption they all had it.

[@Pwn3dSentry]

Feels good watching you again man

[@sams2960]

Looks like the PC12 might even be a case of "head down" finishing up avionics programming without realizing they were moving until too late. I'm thinking if he had seen the person on the ramp, the nose strut would have compressed down as he stomped the brakes hard. Those single engine turboprops can giddyup quickly on the ramp in idle .... 208 and Kodiak manuals both say to use beta prop instead of brakes to control taxi speed to save brake pad wear.

[@Redbikemaster]

It's absolutely true about heavier loads for us truckers. In the winter I love getting heavy loads, especially when crossing Wyoming

[@NikovK]

"He would possibly, or she..." How dare you verbally overlook a woman's right to be sucked into a jet engine.

[@QueenCityHornets]

@studio732jrl2 I live and North Carolina and can confirm 👍

[@stephaniecoomey2356]

I can’t stop watching your videos along with ATC recordings, I’d really enjoy a flying lesson. One day. Thanks cap’n take care.

[@andybonneau9209]

The moral of most of today's tales is always be ready to use thrust reversers. 🙂

[@aneita01]

Another Awesome Video Good Job Kelsey

[@penguinwithwifi]

I’m looking forward to you discussing the China Eastern Airlines plane (flt MU 5735) that did a 90 degree nosedive and crashed yesterday. in China. My guess is it’ll turn out to have been caused by the pilot or someone on board.