China's $66 Trillion Dollar Plan For The Moon!

[@Hystericall]

Gotta give them credit, they have excellent landing technology. Have nailed every single landing on both Moon and Mars.

[@Miheil1]

I appreciate this channel because they actually talk about other countries' achievements even though those countries might not be aligned with US interests unlike many others which just downplays or just criticises China regardlessly.

[@austinwilliams3448]

Sounds like he wants to defect and become a citizen of China. Hell, give him the boot, USA will send our regards on 2027 from the moon. China is well past time for their Challenger/Columbia mishaps. It's going to happen, one day China won't be able to steal all our tech and will have to depend on their noncreative minds...their Short Dongs x 10 will land everywhere in the world when it's blown to smithereens

[@ronschlorff7089]

it's the World all we "little monkeys" live on, regardless of ideology!

[@bin.s.s.]

It's about how to face yourself.

[@jimmy16573]

Agree. Good or bad, at least it's telling the truth

[@danilomariano1726]

This is the common American mentality, not recognizing the leadership of others, appropriating the knowledge of other nations and sabotaging those who are rising

[@humanity1581]

WE still have to wait till the two astronauts return from ISS. NO HURT FEELINGS

[@ronschlorff7089]

home for Christmas, God willing!

[@_apsis]

@@ronschlorff7089they won’t, it’s already long been planned for 2025; not like they’re not busy working on things up there with the other ISS astronauts anyways

[@benmunko7228]

Please read something more than a headline

[@tierdropp7544]

They’re home.

[@macwchan]

@@ronschlorff7089 Christmas? They won't be back until Feb 2025!

[@rodinvillarosa2924]

Im all for this, "For All Man Kind"a new Space Race, is a heck of a lot better than a Shooting War in Taiwan, which no one will win.

[@Gravitatis]

when they say "mankind first" they mean "mankind next"

[@glenrich-uu9zr]

Next a high speed train route of different regions in Moon.

[@otterpossum9128]

That would be interesting. Makes a lot more sense than rovers. I am sure it will at some point.

[@MrMoon-te5xw]

@@otterpossum9128 there is no atmoshphere on the moon either so if you go the maglev route, i don't think there is even a limit on how fast you can make them go. Basically it would be the same as hyperloop. To create a hyperloop on earth you need to create vacuum, but in space or on moon you already inside a vacuum

[@ronschlorff7089]

I like the rocket busses used in "2001 Space Odessey", more maneuverable and flexible, not a fixed "rail" route.

[@saaddudin7163]

If it's worth it, I don't think to build base there is worth it, need huge amount of money, to maintain, but so is space station, it's need commitment.

[@ronschlorff7089]

@@saaddudin7163 right, there will have to be good reasons to spend that money on a moon base, but we spend a lot on military already, so I guess money is not the object, but clear goals are needed. Good telescope viewing on the far side might be enough. Antarctica bases are there to study the cold, and they all say "yes, it's damn cold here". LOL. Might be something like that, "yup, it's pretty desolate here on the moon". But I think the main reason will be "because we can do it"! LOL ;D

[@RuralJuror420]

$50 TRILLION?! For context, China’s entire economy is only $18 Trillion. China also only spends $14B a year on space program. They are secretive so let’s assume they spend 4 times that, or $56B. China would devote their entire space budget for the next 893 YEARS to get to $50 Trillion. I’m assuming the thumbnail is a typo!

[@Richgetmoney3k-xu5jh]

That’s how u know he’s a communist his china numbers don’t even make sense.. he’s being paid to put this bull shxt out.. china run KZbin

Don't panic microbrain.

[@todaysevnewstevnews5774]

i think it's just for people to click on the video...

[@quinton6258]

18 trillion PER year, so if they spend 5 percent of thier GDP it will only take 50 years assuming no growth and no help from other countries

[@Yutani_Crayven]

Either he switched trillion for billion or he switched the currency, lol

[@thespartan8476]

The biggest giveaway, when asked why we haven’t been back, is that NASA Said publicly We used to have the technology, but we no longer do. Also, Say they don’t have the budget anymore. Nasa had numerous failed attempts before the Moon Landing” and somehow convinced the public that they figured it out and had a flawless execution on 1969 tech but now no longer have the technology available in 2025.

[@otterpossum9128]

China can move so quickly and accurately because they don't let ignorant people decide on leaders and don't have stupid politics.

[@ronschlorff7089]

sounds like you need a puppy to pet!! LOL

[@Gobbldeegoo1]

They don’t let anyone outside the CCP decide on leaders lol has nothing to do with education level. I agree with your sentiment, but make sure you don’t slip over the edge into spreading misinformation. China has its faults, and many of them are the same as the United States, but let’s call a spade a spade when the time comes. China is a capitalist, autocratic, and self-serving nation just like the USA (only USA has two parties, but they have the same economic and geopolitical positions, and both see the American people as a threat to their power)… but the one real difference between them is their domestic visions for their people. China sees a healthy and educated population, as vital for the future growth of China. The USA sees a healthy and educated population, as a threat to their ruling class. That’s the fundamental difference between the two nations, and why China is continuing to pull ahead.

[@RichardRichiuso]

Fuck China

[@TheKkpop1]

​@@ronschlorff7089 The height of democracy is oligarchs who prefer presidents who are brainless, dementia, actor and felony.

[@thechloromancer3310]

@@ronschlorff7089 Save the puppies for the people who have to live through 4 years of Trump (not that 4 years of Harris would have been any better).

[@myvideos1707]

Trillion? Billion, I think..

[@Pr0toPoTaT0]

Cant send 10 rockets to the moon with stuff let alone hundreds which is what this will require. Seems legit

[@otterpossum9128]

No cupcake, trillion.

[@ronschlorff7089]

either way, sounds like some "serious" cash!! :D

[@Gravitatis]

china's yearly gdp when accounting for the cost of goods and services in china is 38 trillion dollars, which is the highest in the world and higher than the US's by a considerable margin

[@ronschlorff7089]

@@Gravitatis Good, then they can afford to absorb the new tariffs coming on January 20th. Just kidding, sort of!! "The ball is in their court now"! They will do the right thing for their country, I'm sure. LOL ;D

[@hl6055]

I for one hope they make it happen. More space exploration and occupying other planets and moons the better.

[@pkurz3288]

The key is to have a cooperative effort as a planet to settle space, we don't need the my property, your property issue and wars fought in space.

[@Wesley-wg2qi]

It's also good to drive political support for space in the US. I hope both the US and China are successful in space.

[@ronschlorff7089]

Yup, I agree, let them (anyone) go first. It's sort of like when I'm hiking in the "rocky" mountains, and a "tricky" part of the trail, with a shear drop off, of 200 feet, is ahead of us; I usually say to my friends, "Yeah, it looks pretty darn sketchy out there, ...so, you guys go first, ...and I'll follow, ...if you make it across!! But please leave me your I.D's, just in case". ;D But I have not "lost" any friend that way, ...not yet!! LOL ;D

[@ronschlorff7089]

@@Wesley-wg2qi yup, for China, ....and the USA... once again! ;D

[@PortsmouthCherokee]

You hope china colonizes the moon first? Are you a communist??????? They cant even play well on earth

[@0.0LEE-n8i]

According to the latest report from China News: On June 14, 2024, the Long March 10 series rocket used for manned lunar landing and other missions successfully completed the test of the first-stage rocket power system. This test is the first large-scale system-level ground test of the Long March 10 series of launch vehicles. It fully verified the matching of the first-stage booster delivery system and the engine, the propellant filling process, the multi-machine parallel power transmission and environmental characteristics. The Long March 10 rocket is a three-and-a-half-stage rocket with a total length of 92.5 meters, a takeoff weight of about 2,189 tons, a takeoff thrust of about 2,678 tons, and a carrying capacity of no less than 27 tons in the Earth-Moon transfer orbit. In the future, it will be used to launch a new generation of manned spacecraft and lunar landers.

[@3dfxvoodoocards6]

The USA isn’t able to do it so let’s hope China will succeed

[@ronschlorff7089]

sounds pretty much like the media talk in 1967, then a year later,......Boom!! That would be the N-1. LOL ;D

[@Gravitatis]

@@ronschlorff7089 the USSR of the 1960s is nothing like the china of today china has already eclipsed the US in basically every meaningful category except maybe military power

[@saellenx3528]

Yeah, year later Hoolywood studio was working on max.​@@ronschlorff7089

[@EdWeibe]

The USA can do anything when its ready to.

[@JKTProductionzIncNCo]

Huge difference from back then

[@Ai-he1dp]

Humanity should ask themselves...Can We Do It, not, can we afford to do it.

[@xv6701]

I always ask, “can I own a home. Not, can I afford a home”. 🤡

[@MollyGermek]

@@Ai-he1dp A rat done bit my sister Nelle, but Whitey's on the moon

[@larry5272]

I always ask myself... "Do I even wanna?"

[@tonyug113]

well even mighty china opting to copy the spacex re-use functionality -- makes sense , any moonbase will make good use of reduced cost --- the aertemis $4.1 for sls completely unsustainable.

[@Melkur1981]

Their lander looks quite...practical. Their launch methods seem simple, too. Simplism and practicality.

[@rogerphelps9939]

But not extendable.

[@David-Kynaston]

​@@rogerphelps9939 A stepping stone that is witnessing far more progress than America's 1.6 anti-Chinese propaganda campaign could ever dream of halting.

[@ThomasDuffney]

I agree, it's simple, I think space x is great with their ambitions but such a tall lander seems sketchy as hell to me, I'd be concerned it would tip over if it landed wrong. Imo

[@Melkur1981]

@@ThomasDuffney After Intuitive Machines, and thinking back to Apollo 15, you're right to have a few reservations.

[@otterpossum9128]

They aren't stuck on the model, they will evolved over time.

[@WestonRosch]

Let’s go humans. We got US and China trying to make a moon base. This is a truly great century to be alive and for that I am forever grateful

[@rockekoreis3160]

Thanks!

[@AkashPatale-fw8ey]

Give as well

[@raytribble8075]

Not sure about the estimated plan cost. But, I fully expect China to land taikonauts on the moon by 2029. They have the drive to make this happen. Unlike what the US did with post Apollo plans, once they start this program, they will not stop until they succeed. The US private sector can pull it off if the government will stay out of their way. Then begins the race to Mars

[@David-Kynaston]

China will persist in advancing without any 50-year pauses, surpassing the US at an exponential rate. Despite America's criticism, China's progress continues as America faces decline. These are undeniable historical truths, reminiscent of Great Britain's fall from global dominance. American denial may parallel the lasting effects of history.

[@thecomment9489]

Yrs just like the private sector has played greatest role in making America what it is today. For example in the 19th century the private sector was the one who laid railway lines all across the US. The private sector was also at the forefront in anti-slavery efforts. In fact the private sector was the obe which forced Lincoln to sign emancipation proclamation 🙄 And the the private sector was the one who built all of the interstate roads 😤 And it was the private sector that created NASA and and it was private sector that funded the Apollo programme which allegedly landed humans on the moon. So many contributions. And it was private sector that also rallies for worker's rights.

[@liongjiahwong5478]

What Mars are you talking about 😊!! We can go to Mars except never to come back again. All this bullshits, will never happen for the 50 years or more. I hope Elon Musk will be the first to volunteer for this mission.

[@bobmusil1458]

The US private sector will not pull anything off without public funding 😂

[@bobmusil1458]

@@thecomment9489 1. ​​⁠The private sector made a lot of money by building railways. You can’t make any money by going to the Moon or Mars. 2. NASA used private companies for the Apollo program. But all the money was public money. 3. NASA did not “allegedly” go to the Moon. The Moon landing is a fact. 4. The private sector was always opposed to worker rights. If you don’t realise that you live in an alternate reality. Lobbying from the private sector is the reason why the minimum wage is so low. You can see what Americans think about the private sector when you look at the reactions after the CEO of an insurance company was killed

[@dincoox1725]

My prediction is that China could send humans to Mars by 2049 for 100th anniversary of PRC

[@myvideos1707]

Prc Will not exist anymore in 2049

@@myvideos1707 Easy there slow boy.

[@MollyGermek]

@@myvideos1707 Literally delusional. There's more chance that the US won't exist, and that's still slim to fucking none.

[@RSCB]

​@@myvideos1707more like roc

[@starlights006]

@@myvideos1707China is big words , they Chinese civilization exist since 5000 years ago they won’t disappear until the entire human race dies o fell .

[@jimgreen5788]

Space Race, just for the record, when you use both the dollar sign ($), and the word 'dollar', you're saying "6 trillion dollars dollars". Oops!

[@Ignacio.Romero]

That sign is used for many other currencies

[@ronschlorff7089]

Ha, interesting, that that figure, coincidently, is about the distance traveled in a light year. Cue the "Twilight Zone" theme music here!! LOL

[@silverismoney]

Go China! I bet they will keep to their deadline too unlike Artemis

[@Neo-Ghost777]

Do u know china? They will most likely start developing super weapons and start strip mining

[@liongjiahwong5478]

Let's see America can land man on the moon in 6 days to and back. China took 53 days for unmanned craft on the moon.

[@otterpossum9128]

@@liongjiahwong5478 Yes, but the US was fully evolved in moon landings back in the 60's but now it seems too hard. Apples and oranges my friend.

[@pkurz3288]

@@otterpossum9128 @otterpossum9128 The Apollo missions were so dangerous with the primitive technology controlling the ships, it's a miracle they landed and returned with one tragedy and one near tragedy. They landed drove around, gathered samples and got off the moon in a short period of time The danger today is they are attempting to stay there and become self sufficient, this has never been done on any space mission to a planet. It's hard enough to survive stranded in the desert or wilderness on earth but to have no hope of sending a quick rescue to the moon in time if they are in trouble. The initial missions will have to be automated building machines making infrastructure and sending machines that will process the ice into fuel. Elon may help push that along if no red tape and delays hold him back. The Chinese may get to the moon and land an astronaut but establishing a base will be at least 20 years along. They need to just team up with the international community and go together

[@TheCharlos64]

​@@liongjiahwong5478that's false. What. China took about 4 days to go. (But not go back)

[@steffen6987]

Loved the video. Keep up the great work. I personally hope that China wins the space race considering how the US is acting :)

[@SirSayakaMikiThe3rd]

With SpaceX, that's highly unlikely.

[@greegorygrimlee5487]

​@@SirSayakaMikiThe3rd with Space X, its more likely to be a multinational effort. With Boeing, Northrop Grumman and Origin involved, likely no US on the moon at all unless hosted by someone else.

[@SirSayakaMikiThe3rd]

@@greegorygrimlee5487 Considering Trumps focus on NASA and the Space Force, DOGE, and reducing financial support for other nations, I can easily see the American Space industry erasing any of the gains China has made. (Well, the gains they made by copying)

[@ronschlorff7089]

The "space race", to the moon, was won, 6 times, long ago. and Hint: America is "acting" like "America First" again, that should be clue to all "interested parties" for who gets to the moon, once again, next! LOL

[@SirSayakaMikiThe3rd]

@@ronschlorff7089 Yeah. This incoming administration is making space a priority as well as slashing government waste. Not to mention that SpaceX is way ahead of China. So I expect that the US will step foot on the moon before China.... again that is.

[@annatsai7631]

The LM-10 is a 3-core rocket, each with 7 YF-100K liquid fuel (RP-1/LOX) engines. The video misstated that there are 2 solid fueled side boosters.

[@otterpossum9128]

Thanks comic book guy

[@pipersall6761]

I hope they buzz the Sea of Tranquility and get some good shots of our stuff.

[@Slaeowulf]

No need. There are extensive photos over the past 60 years that show the lunar lander in situ. Most recently, and therefore most clearly, India's probe. Well worth a Google!

[@vls3771]

True China mapped and have hundreds of photos of apollo missions landing sites from their 3rd mission to orbit moon years ago Russia and India have done the same ...apollo lander bases/ rovers /tracks /and waste left behind are all documented from those 3 countries .

[@yoskarokuto3553]

@@Slaeowulf LIARS!!!

[@yoskarokuto3553]

@@vls3771 LIARS!!!

[@Slaeowulf]

@@yoskarokuto3553 people with an invested interest in undermining the USA...are lying about the moon landing? Do kindly shut the fuck up

[@jacque1331]

To those who doubt the 50T moon budget, you're not thinking far enough.

[@57hound]

Hmmm…it’s almost as if fighting constant pointless wars was a poor policy, meanwhile, China has been quietly taking care of business, thus making incredible progress.

[@brianpaton6687]

You said it, and now they have the United States Marine Corps Forces Space Command. All they think about is the possibility of conflict. Of course if they have no enemies in space you can bet your last dollar they will create one. Does the Gulf of Tonkin incident ring any bells. They are pouring billions of tax dollars into their defense budget while the Chinese are flooding the auto world with affordable sleek looking electric vehicles, leaving the legacy auto makers scratching their heads. The US is bringing in the Korean ship builders to teach them how to build warships faster as they are vastly out numbered by China. Don't get me started on high speed rail. The winds of change are upon us..

[@yvanpajevic9680]

incredible progress = nonsense! China has had first stage boosters crash into it's own populace! They are plagued by incompetence and corruption! I can't take them seriously until they make LEO practical the way SpaceX has.

[@thrackl3]

I'm assuming you are a bot, but just in case: America fight twice as many wars and still get back to the moon, if it really wanted to.

[@Deramirezv]

China achieve all this by going to war with its neighbors! Don't understand how people that doesn't live in a dictatorship wants such a system to thrive when it would mean those same people would probably not make it!

[@prajnasamadhi60]

@@thrackl3 First get back the two stranded astranauts

[@zackatwood2867]

I though "no country can claim any plot on a heavenly body"

[@allowedme]

How can anyone object to something one cannot reach.

[@amentco8445]

who.. the hell cares?

[@MollyGermek]

They're not claiming it. They are attempting to make it an international mission.

[@apricotcomputers3943]

​@@amentco8445haha exactly. this is so abstract, it's like really? can anyone survive there😂

[@Gravitatis]

@@amentco8445 someone make this man the head of NASA

[@StanCave]

Great to hear that they are working towards the moon

[@chilzone966]

China has embraced technology. They keep getting better and their pace keeps quickening.

[@kohanrains776]

13:56 thats literally not true at all...there can be multiple equally efficient fully reusable designs... thats a WILD thing to say 😂

[@ThomasDuffney]

I agree, I don't like the tall design of starship, even if it is practical

[@kohanrains776]

@ThomasDuffney I love the design but I mean it's incredibly unstable... there is absolutely more effective and safer options than just starship

[@ThomasDuffney]

@@kohanrains776 100% I know SpaceX wants to be different, but I'm sure we'll see what happens, they'd have to do a test landing before people go to the moon, right?

[@byhyew]

Elon Musk bought a 2 billion ancient Chinese mansion in Beijing, his mother is staying in China more than the US. I wouldn't be surprised that Elon Musk is making Space X a multinational company, especially given CNSA's better track record over NASA for the past decade.

[@thorin1045]

@@ThomasDuffney full unmanned run needed before anyone allowed to go, so yes. and that is why the 'current' 2026 date is not realistic. the entire nasa and company attempt is lucky if they manage to land before the chinese. if any major delay happens, lucky if this happens at all. of course unless the next president decides to spend apollo levels on the space x based lunar landing, but that would only happen if they are very good friends...

[@peterclarke3020]

$66 Trillion ? - You must be kidding. Unless you’re talking about expenditure over the whole of the next century… Then 40 seconds in it says $50 Trillion, which is still wrong. Sounds like they have been taking lessons from Boeing..

[@bruceperkins2921]

nasa isnt going to accomplish squat concerning landing on the moon

[@bjorntorlarsson]

Artemis with its very strange orbits and multi-stages with different rockets... It's an excersie of the madhouse of representatives.

[@ronschlorff7089]

Been there done that, landed six times, many years ago! Good luck to those who try now; we'll congratulate you or console you, whichever is appropriate!! LOL ;D

[@EdWeibe]

Elon will .

[@tj7870]

@@EdWeibe when? next year? i call BS!

[@taiwanstillisntacountry]

​@@ronschlorff7089 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Tell us about the caste-system

[@peterclarke3020]

The China plan for 2029, sounds like an Apollo style mission. Boots & flags.

[@evergreenhills]

appolo is fake

[@FilipSwoboda]

The mournful music in the background is oddly inappropriate.

[@undertow2142]

It’s fitting for the sad state of the US governments approach to space.

[@michaelreid2329]

Imagine what could be done with a cooperative base build with India and China.

[@soumyashankar7568]

Maybe you should say China and USA.

[@greegorygrimlee5487]

That would be nice to see. Even better with more countries. Like the ISS but much larger and much more useful.

[@justdadstuff5171]

That may work, as long as it's the Chinese that take care of the human waste management systems.

[@RealBenPurple]

I think Chinese would never cooperate with indian😂cuz Indian have no majority of achievement in space now😂

[@hwg5039]

That would become just China teaching India how to do things

[@TobiH-3D]

A really interesting video, awesome show! The only thing missing from my perspective to make it even better would be: The sources linked in the description. Keep it up!

[@MyCatFooed]

You put out really good videos... Thanks!!

[@peterclarke3020]

I see that, the on-stage performance had them tethered with an air hose leading off stage - so the back pack is not yet functional. (Much the same as the new USA back pack)

[@dingodog5677]

If we can cover the moon the a glass sphere, we could create an entire atmosphere and living biota.🧐 days are a month long so plants would need to adjust. Silica makes up most of the ground. Turn it into glass. Build it bit by bit until it’s totally covered.

[@peterclarke3020]

Good luck with trying that idea.. /s

[@colinbarnard6512]

Remember, with a demonstration of space suit flexibility, to get a true picture (literally), the suit would have to be overpressured by 5 pounds psi.

[@lluow]

I love the fact that when discussing China’s space exploration, people never forget about its political consequences and China’s sinister motives. While speaking about western space programs, it’s just pure scientific exploration and good for all mankind. The level of racism is off chart. 😂

[@agusedyanto3324]

You don't present any facts except personal assumptions and prejudices.

[@mathamour]

🤣🤣。病 疾 神 精 的 人 国 中 愈 治 法 无 也 神 药 是 使 即

[@__sir7557]

they are useful idiots and comie sympathizers

[@JaneNewAuthor]

I'm sure the Chinese have their reasons, but they're far more likely to be about minerals, resources, and trade. Whereas USA has been at war with some country or another since its inception, and is the world's biggest manufacturer of weapons. I know which one I'd rather do business with.

[@stephenpahl7538]

Planes, Trains and Automobiles, why not Rockets and then Spaceships

[@ThomasDuffney]

Elon has you in his payroll, you guys are the biggest glazers i have ever seen for space x, i get that space x is promising, but actively wishing for everything to fail for space x to succeed is nuts.

[@avgjoe5969]

I don't wish for Artemis/SLS to fail, they already have. They're simply too expensive and Starship and Dragon could do the entire lunar landing with $4 billion per launch saved, allowing multiple launches per year within NASA's current budget. Artemis/SLS bring nothing to the table... Why switch astronouts in lunar orbit when they can switch in LEO? Does that even make sense when the word "pork" is deleted? The entire mission: Lander, LEO fuel depot, Tanker flights, crew Dragon flights... all for maybe $1 billion per flight with all the development paid for. No need for an additional $4.5 billion per flight for Artemis.

[@ronschlorff7089]

right, there is room for Everyone in space: "it's big, Really Big, so mind-boggling big....etc". as Douglas Adams said in his book THHGTTG. LOL

[@Jayy9320]

They really are massive Elon glazers

[@ronschlorff7089]

@@Jayy9320 what is a glazer?

[@chiluco2000]

Should he side with ... Boeing??

[@中国-e8c]

中国🇨🇳👍🇨🇳👍🇨🇳👍🇨🇳👍🇨🇳👍

[@Honorablebenaiaha]

But I thought our “diversity” made us the best? No?

[@kevinstav4757]

And here I was thinking a trip to the dark side was to mine for some helium 3 .

[@rosainca]

The Japanese lander did misjudge the height of the lander during the final moments of descent and ended up landing on its side , after depleting its fuel but, by spending extra lunar days to recharge its batteries, it successfully operated the camera to take pictures of its surroundings, as expected. One of the goals of this mission was to determine how accurately a lunar lander could set down near its target landing spot, which was also achieved to within a few feet (orders of magnitude better than the Apollo landers 50 years ago). The landing has been recorded as successful, placing Japan as the fourth country to achieve a soft landing after the US, Soviet Union, and China.

[@youerny]

Artemis is no more real in reaching the moon than my discovery program to reach Giove in a manned mission of my personal design. How can I call it… a small step for a man, but a very delusional one

[@jimdavis5230]

I get the impression that the western world has had it's day and it's down hill from now on.

[@beewee4987]

Most Likely Not. Seeing how China is still copying Western Technology just to keep up with modern tech, it doesn't seem as if the West will fall any time soon...Also now that the West has placed an Embargo on Advanced Chips, China is now going to be set back on tech independence for years.

[@thrackl3]

There is nothing special about China accomplishing this other than the fact that they desire to do so. Big surprise, when China copies western capitalism, and specific inventions, they gain similar capabilities to the west. China is still a country where if you have the wrong beliefs of ethnic background you can just be disappeared. The Chinese people seem nice, but they are pawns to a single old man. Sooner or later they will get a string of bad monarchs, just like all monarchies throughout history.

[@Neo-Ghost777]

Rlly? Starship? Elon Musk? I don’t think so

[@MollyGermek]

@Neo-Ghost777 Doesn't mean shit when multiple crises on Earth are piling up and up and up on top of each other. Better hope the trade war doesn't cause a recession.

[@oceanwave4502]

So true in paradox for western europe: in one hand, they are aging fast; not allowing immigrants in will result in massive economic decline; in the other hand, if allowing in immigrants, those will surely create parallel societies and lead to rise of Far Right (maybe another Austrian painter in some form?).

[@LelandReview]

It's nice to see the reality of Space Exploration instead of the Starship fantasy.

[@nishgriff1]

Great content, thanks for posting!

[@guss77]

Stoke Space would disagree with "there can only be one correct answer to building an ideal reusable upper stage rocket"

[@JZsBFF]

I would have guessed that the huge Sea Dragon would come to play a part at some moment in time.

[@szymonmaciak8930]

Im not gonna lie, at 0:50 i thought bin chilling was playing, but that was my discord XD

[@evergreenhills]

我们的人一定会完成任务

[@4-SeasonNature]

Very informative and educational.

[@JojahMensah]

Remember, Nasa has contracted the building of the lunar lander in addition to SpaceX' heavy lander(starship) Give or take, 5-years is what it'll take to be ready to transport logistics and equipment. It has the Initiative.

[@wildfoodietours]

Such exciting times for space exploration! To the moon and beyond we go.

[@TheAlchemisification]

Well your out of date. Artemis II has been pushed back to April 2026 and the landing to 2027 at the earliest. At this rate it will more likely be 2029 depending on how Space X does with LEO refueling. LOL

[@vegamoonlight]

Artemis and their corrupt leadership 😂😂😂

[@patmigroin2808]

The CCP does realise water cannons don't work on moon😂

[@zhang2928]

Thank China for the space race. It's better for allocating a portion of its military budget toward the advancement of humanity's future. Regardless of whether it is the USA, China, or any other nation that ultimately succeeds in space exploration, as humans, we are investing in the right cause by prioritizing such endeavors.

[@danieltam3923]

The anonymous American cameraman was the first human landed on the Moon. China won't be sending their cameraman but their Taikonauts to the Moon. 😂

[@LeoAndersson-og8ki]

Space race V2. USA VS China

[@greggweber9967]

It's a race between corruption and other bad things in CCP China against corruption and other bad things in the US to get the goal before those bad things stop the effort's success.

[@bryanlee7295]

I'm sorry but on the contrary, your government is hell-bent on making you slaves, China on the other hand is working to lift their people up.

[@dayeah765caoni3]

US has Hollywood😂

[@christophmahler]

10:08 It's interesting that people can't see that the Chinese Moon program is a direct continuation of the Soviet LUNA program - including a permanent robotic base. The notion that the current world war would alter that fact is naive - the more the power blocs consolidate in escalating conflict, the more obvious the quiet coordination will become.

[@jkimo1178]

They need some Tesla Bots.

[@tj7870]

very funny!

[@sooma-ai]

China plans to land astronauts on the moon by 2029, followed by establishing a permanent lunar base in the 2030s. They are developing new rockets, spacecraft, and technologies to achieve this, while also conducting robotic missions to explore the lunar surface.

[@fireyecat]

If US and China can cooperate, there will be no need to develop multiple systems for outer space exploration.

[@Ahgsb456]

China don’t need 66 trillions to do this, they can go on cheap and still manage to land on the moon

[@rickace132]

China's approach to this is realistic. By the 2030s, they will have their big ass Starship rocket version ready to go. This is when they will build the Moon base. By 2040s, maybe they will be ready to go to Mars.

[@charlieloo2470]

Comparing to deep space race, 1000km/hour high speed train project that has been announced weeks ago is more important to all countries.

[@sirfer6969]

Let's hope they keep it public so we all can learn...

[@jimmyscreen]

China, getting 8:01 refills and life skills sorted first. How 'neattindo'😂

[@user-dave56]

Very good post. Thanks.

[@almostsmartq674]

Kung-Fu Cosmonauts.

[@Raussl]

I think they call them Tychonauts...and Kung Fu just means "practice something with patience"

[@almostsmartq674]

@@Raussl Now you know why I called them 'Kung-Fu Cosmonauts'. Congrats. 👏

[@ronschlorff7089]

@@Raussl Then that would apply to space travel too!

[@petermacris8260]

6:14 bro thats mercury

[@jorgesolis7891]

And they are not gonna start playing golf, they are going to play Maghonj...

[@jonihiu3954]

There are many similar videos. This one stands out!

[@richardknapp570]

I would disagree there "can only be one correct answer". StarShip is one of the better options with what we can do right now. There a likely better options but they may currently be cost prohibitive or we can't yet build them. Powered flight has been happening for over 100 years and we are still learning better ways to build the vehicles and engines (like the adaptive cycle engines).

[@geraldkhoo88]

The problem with Elon musk is his ego. He wants to build "trophy" projects. He wants to win trophies. China has a long-term plan. Take for example, their moonbase plan. They have set their missions to achieve the plan. And, they use proven rockets which they have used many times with complete success to achieve these missions. Whereas, Elon musk is interested in building the most advanced rockets but no clear plans. It is ought when one thinks of US space program, one mostly hear Elon musk. Even Nasa is less often mentioned. It is like the US space program is owned by one person. This is a joke.

[@zhengling2668]

NASA is OK as long as the Apollo sites won't be not touched.

[@momiriseni5320]

Prepare for new hordes of naysayers who will foam at their mouths yelling how Moon landing is shot in a studio. 😄

[@Hystericall]

I doubt they'll waste that much money. They are still a developing country and not all are out of poverty. Unlike USA, they take care of their poorest.

[@jorgesolis7891]

IS America specting to find oil....?

[@sterben5405]

maybe then NASA would get it together

[@ronschlorff7089]

That would be great; it would mean that there were prehistoric creatures there too, many millions of years ago!! LOL

[@FLAM1nWaffl3x]

Ask israel

[@suleman2151]

if they have decided they will going to do that with no failure,im sure of that

[@BS-vx8dg]

As a member of the species _homo sapiens_ I am glad to see this progress happening. As a member of the tribe _hetero americanus_ I am depressed and jealous to see this progress happening.

[@ThanhNgocNhu-ic2yx]

You have such a great voice 💝

[@asmael666]

I am less interested in the fact that china is copying starship than in the reasoning why.

[@bjorntorlarsson]

Why? To sell them to SpaceX at a lower price than the cost for them to produce them?

[@bryanlee7295]

​@@bjorntorlarsson😂 I wouldn't be surprised Elon relabelling them Made in USA 😂

[@avgjoe5969]

@@bryanlee7295 Elon's planning on having robots build robots by 2029... working in factories by end of 2025 in large numbers...so how is it that China will be building cheaper space ships when Spacex is already building cheaper and larger spaceships than the LM9 that has yet to launch? China's big advantage on cost is labor. This will be minimal compared to Spacex at best. Not to minimize the laudible achievements of China, but They don't currently hava a cost advantage vs Spacex and with Tesla's edge on automation tech... I would expect any such advantage to shrink dramatically over the next 3-5 years. Remember, truely useful robots need to navigate... much like a tesla car. Then there's XAI and its ability to learn and interact with humans... this will become part of Tesla's cars and robots... and Spacex production robot/exploration robots. Then there's Nuralink and the ability for people and machines to interact much more directly and efficiently. Then there is the new Prufrock 4 tunneling machine that weighs only 400 tons (easy to break into sections for transport to the moon to mine while producing inhabitable reinforced tunnels well below the radiation and meteorites. The Chinese will be in the thick of it, but for at least 7-8 years, Spacex/NASA will be at the bleeding edge.

[@vegasflyboy67]

You have ignored that Starship has siphoned 5 billion from NASA in a supposed joint effort with Artimise to put America back on the moon. Starship has yet to prove it can put itself into orbit let alone land people on Mars by 2024 as predicted in 2016 in a sales pitch for Starship.

[@petergorian535]

Be fair they can get into orbit - it's getting back in a reusable manner that's proving difficult. Not an easy problem.

[@Nobody-Nowhere]

@@petergorian535 they can get to orbit with an empty rocket

[@vegasflyboy67]

@@petergorian535 When has Starship been in orbit?

[@trooper5157]

Think of where SpaceX and the Starship will be by 2029, or certainly by the 2030's. Do the Chinese not realize how silly their plans look comparatively?

[@theforsakeen177]

the us had already landed on the moon when ch1 was still just an agrarian economy, this was true right up until the 2000s, since then they have nearly overtaken the us economy and due tothe us they are the only country in the world to have their own independent space station, don't worry about them

[@avgjoe5969]

@@theforsakeen177 Agreed, but just putting 3 people on the moon for a few days or weeks seems like wasted time. They need to build put longmarch 9 and put something bigger on the moon. They are already working on a rocket like Starship, I imagine they will work on a lander like Starship so they can put Real tonnage (50t/100t or more), robots and personnel on the moon. I find it hard to believe their plan is to recreate Apollo. I would expect their real, more ambitions (like Spacex) plans to reach fruition around 2030. Putting many more people on the moon with robots to build a permanent base. Also, Orion isn't really needed. Just a Starship series and a dock with one or more Dragons after refueling or escape modules for 40 people in a Starship human transport to LEO... This would obviate Orion completely, docking with the lander in LEO. At first, there is no need for 40 people and a few hundred robots that can mostly be controlled from earth (Using Starlink relay). So Dragon + Starship lander works well. Later larger numbers when an escape capable Starship is built.

[@rickace132]

China isn't racing Spacex, they are doing their own thing. We'll see who's more success in the coming years. Considering Elon said he will land on Mars by 2024, I'd be very wary of them accomplishing anything anytime soon.

[@trooper5157]

@@theforsakeen177 You're thinking in the now. China is thinking a decade from now and that's when things look ridiculous for them. Sending unmanned rovers to the moon in 10 years... that's their goal? SpaceX will have humans, many humans, on the moon and even on Mars in advance of 2034. I hope one of those Americans that ride up with SpaceX walks over and gives one of the chinese robots a good kick up there. ;)

[@gilbert1975nf]

3:53 - very clever! Let they do they work. There is plenty of space in the space.

[@KM-wn3cf]

Haha they upped the numbers to 66 trillions after people were complaining about 50 trillion. Based

[@Jacnl1]

4:07 recently released information shows that it will be three days on the moon

[@EBalagot007]

i computed it & it will cost $ 50 to 70 Quadrillion for all with the future Chinese Moon, Mars, and beyond missions & no typo error here : )

[@andrewgrandfield7214]

The Chinese flag would be suitable as a flag for Mars.

[@i-love-space390]

Whenever a Party or Leader plans a program for a propaganda anniversary, you can count of something superficial, if they succeed. I have no doubt that China will succeed in a "boots and footprints" mission like Apollo, as long as they stick to the equator. I have serious doubts that they can build the logistics infrastructure for a real permanent base. I also would not expect the Taikonauts to land at the poles or on the far side either. America will only succeed in creating a base if we develop the permanent logistics to support it. The Starship design could be sustainable if on orbit refueling proves reliable and not expensive, because of the massive cargo capacity of the vehicle. Building a reusable landing shuttle to go between lunar orbit and the surface, and an orbital transfer vehicle to move between LEO and cis-lunar space will also be required for longterm existence of a lunar surface base. Enthusiasts seem to give little concern to the actual COST of sustaining a base on the moon. Until we make an affordable resupply system, a lunar base is an Opium Pipe Dream.

[@Gravitatis]

im surprised youtube didnt auto-delete your comment since you mentioned opium and china in the same post

[@fijillian]

They can’t even launch rockets without endangering their people. Boosters falling from the sky isn’t a good look.

[@KVUAA]

Well cuz it made to fall to the ground

[@vladazco9068]

In China and rest of the world they use million, milliard, billion, ,trillion. So it is not 66 trillion but 66 billions. This is often neglected even by professional reporters

[@middletnpyro]

Great episode! But did you not hear artemis 2 & 3 were both delayed again / pushed back a year 🤷‍♂️ so it's now 2026 & 2027

[@avgjoe5969]

It was always going to be 2026 & 7. No one was going to be ready in 2025. But that's not a problem. Spacex is setting up its factory to mass produce ships for Multiple lunar flights (and disbursal of some tens of thousands of Starlink satellites). The latter filling Spacex coffers to eliminate delays by government dithering if such is likely at this point.

[@costasspartan1894]

Why is it so hard to go back to the Moon??????? We went back in the 60's with a quarter of the technology that we now have , so what's the damn problem.

[@lexneuron]

Retrograde(d) evolution or atavism of some sort in some society in the North America land mass?

[@hagankeys3610]

Was Moon landing in the 60's real?

[@thewildcellist]

The most important tech that gets you to the Moon - rockets - hasn't changed that much since the 60s. Just like cars: cars go a BIT farther on a tank of gas than they did in 1969, but not _that_ much. It's still a big, expensive deal to get to the Moon. And the technological advances we've made since the Apollo era haven't fundamentally altered that fact.

[@christianmorais7575]

You know dawn well the answer. No one ever walk the moon.

[@Gravitatis]

americans (and westerners) are just of generally lower quality than they used to be

[@PeteCasey-i4m]

Soooo in 2029 the Chinese will have moon rocks 60 years after we brought them back and shared some with them. Sorry if I'm not too worried about them establishing a moon base. ;-)

[@mauriciolevien7679]

They already brought back Moon rocks from previous missions. In fact, in Xi Jinping's recent visit to Brazil, he gifted Lula some rocks from the Moon.

[@PeteCasey-i4m]

The reference was more about humans, and I think Peru got some last time.

[@mauriciolevien7679]

@@PeteCasey-i4m 👍