China's Belief in Fate Causes Untold Death

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[@mattparker9726]

LMAO "Truck Juice"

[@Sunfried1]

The title of this video is misleading. I'm sure many people assume the title refers to the threat China poses on the geo-political scene. The actual content is a fairly mundane talk on Chinese folk concepts of fate. Humdrum stuff.

[@Lucifer-fj7mg]

Hello 你好啊！我很高兴你们懂中文。这两天我去 Quora上面看到好多 小粉红！都在维护 中共！看得我好生气！我就去微博上 截图给他们看 国内的舆论！我不想那些看不懂中文的人被骗！

[@NoNoNoNopeNopeNopeNo]

@@Sunfried1 ''humdrum stuff''. That ''humdrum stuff'' kills so many people in China every day. Just because it doesn't affect you/you don't understand it, is precisely why ADV/Chinashow/Serpentza/Laowhy do what they do: to bring attention to it.

[@Martin-xh8pf]

I love your channel can you guys go back to vlogs or reviews to mix it up with content everything's been nothing but green screen footage

[@wlemonte]

A college buddy told me his first experience on his FIRST day in Beijing was witnessing a guy get run over by a bus. He said people actually laughed and went on their merry way. Nobody cared.

A Chinese death is not even a number

[@Retard244]

Chinas messed up

[@MasterIceyy]

After recently watching a video of a room full of chinese guys ignoring a dude trying to rape a girl, i can absolutely believe this story

[@doltBmB]

Look up the book "Ways that are Dark", full of such stories from pre-communist china. It's deeply ingrained into their culture.

@@doltBmB thanks

[@TheSteelerider]

My wife and I took a trip 2 years ago to the Grand Canyon, and a number of other parks in the area. Every day we saw Chinese tourists doing the most absurdly stupid and dangerous things, that it was quite shocking. For instance, groups of them standing taking selfies wearing nothing but sandals literally inches away from a thousand foot drop into the Grand Canyon. Crossing over and ignoring safety barriers, ignoring signs, and just being incredibly unsafe. We could not make any sense of it. This explains why.

[@Earthneedsado-over177]

Since 50,000 Chinese are born every day a few falling into the Grand Canyon wouldn't make a dent.

[@markvogel5872]

Wasn't just the Chinese... everyone at the Grand Canyon were being idiots the day I was there. Just standing on the ledge.....so close to the end.

[@alan59395]

About 10 years ago when I visited Canyonlands, a Chinese tourist climbed up onto the Mesa Arch, which hangs over a several hundred foot drop down a sheer cliff, and danced while his buddies filmed him and laughed. No care in the world for how dangerous it was.

[@keosan]

Nothing but sandals? That’s hot even for the Grand Canyon

[@esthermas4703]

i was thinking that was either Germans or Australian I never heard about Chinese but well, cannot say I'm surprised

[@andersonomo597]

We have a LOT of Chinese here in Sydney. They seem to have this 'you have to look out not to hit me or get in my way' attitude, rather than "I have to make sure I don't hit you" In other words, selfish and self centered. My Chinese neighbor goes on all the time about "stupid selfish Chinese people" It's quite hilarious!!

[@teza6969]

Bugger that, when I go in there I don't Gove them that, I had a Chinese woman once standing beside me and my daughter waiting to get of the fairy in darling harbour, as soon as the gate opened to get of the boat, she tried to push strait between my daughter and myself , I stopped that strait up, my arm reach strait out,pushed her back to where she was and took my daughters hand and got off boat getting abuse but the Chinese woman in her native tongue and receiving grace and cheers by others who seen what she did at the sametime.

[@daifeichu]

I noticed the difference between Hong Kong and the mainland the first time I went there in 2001. You could easily get off the metro or a bus or elevator in Hong Kong because people would wait for you to exit. In the mainland the people there would immediately try to get in an elevator or whatever and not give you a chance to get out. I just ended up plowing people out of the way and didn't care if they were pissed or not. I know a lot of Hong Kongers and they complain about the mainlanders. My last visit to Hong Kong a few years ago, I noticed its getting bad like the mainland.

[@damocles8417]

Are they Australians? Are they loyal to Australia or do they need to leave?

[@damocles8417]

@@teza6969 as soon as she would have touched my child she’d be on a cooldown period for consciousness.

[@Lopezflies888]

@@damocles8417 They are always Chinese first. There is a joke in China that "China owns Australia". From my eyes as a foreigner, it appears Australia bows to 💩China

[@cindychapman5900]

I remember the sister of a friend worked in China about 30 years ago. She said bodies were left on the sides of streets for days to “teach” others they needed to be more careful. Can’t imagine!

[@mcfireballs3491]

A friend of a friend had a motorcycle accident yesterday, he was on his own and wanted to cut a corner through the opposite lane, his back wheel slid through, hit a median island and made a horrible highsider, he died yesterday in the hospital. The roads in my country (NL) are very safe, but (even on your own) you are very very vulnerable on a bike. Minimizing risks is a must

[@mikeconley9590]

Sorry about your friend.

[@Spookshow1000]

My condolences to you and your friend. May he RIP. I've had 2 friend killed on bikes and another 1 seriously injured his back and another maimed for life. For anyone thinking about riding please be safe and overly cautious.

[@andersonomo597]

My sincere condolences on the loss of your friend. Life is so fragile and precious. 'Minimizing risks is a must' Absolutely.

[@littlehandsgivescovfefe4837]

Sorry for you’re loss bro

[@phangirlable]

I'm sorry about your friend. :( I read that (in Germany at least) the chances of dying in a traffic accident is 6x higher for bikers than for car drivers. And this is Germany where people drive really will (have to considering the speeds that are allowed). It's a bit of a miracle Winston and Cmilk are still alive with all the bike driving they did in China.

[@LyndseyMacPherson]

Love it when you guys explain nuances in language differences.

[@randyross5630]

Like Tomato or Toemoto

[@BixbyConsequence]

@@randyross5630 Let's call the whole thing off!

[@isnisse3896]

The nuance is cha-bu-duo

[@Yes-bn6yy]

@@isnisse3896 the nuance is fei-chang-hao

[@isnisse3896]

@@Yes-bn6yy ni shuo de dui

[@carlmanvers5009]

I have held a motorcycle license for about thirty years now. I have never heard the term 'Truck Juice' in my life. What an epic phrase! Love it!

[@LoremIpsum1970]

Now this makes sense, I was told by a friend that when he was on a bus in China going over a bridge and a bus in front went off the bridge. No one stopped, or showed any concern....

[@Earthneedsado-over177]

Watch some of the Chinese dashcam videos. In the Russian dashcam videos people always stop to help. In the Chinese dashcam videos it's a rarity.

[@serwombles8816]

Everyone has the country they deserve

[@bleuemoone8710]

@@serwombles8816 What? You can't choose where you are born and grow up. There are plenty of good people in every country, including China.

[@MEATOGRE]

You guys nailed it. That whole "fate" concept is dangerous because YOUR carelessness puts OTHERS at risk. Chinese concepts are just so alien. Value of a human life is null there.

[@willblack8575]

they are bugpeople

[@andrewmack2161]

Not just China. Many Religions, especially those where reincarnation is involved, use the same fate concept.

[@Xenon255]

Damn, it's just mei ban fa applied to human lives.

[@thelastquincy1457]

Every culture has a notion of fate.

[@MEATOGRE]

@@thelastquincy1457 it was moreso the fact that letting a specific belief in “fate” spurned the massive disregard for basic safety and puts others into a much higher chance of being hurt because they have a case of “I don’t care, why try cuz fate dictates anyways” Real insightful though.

[@NMOCAO]

The way you blend the video and concept together is particularly effective. Insightful.

[@owenh906]

not gonna lie, love the idea of trucks having their own road, they really do cause so much damage, bloody nightmare

[@adejal]

If all truckers decided to stop going to work the whole world stops working no supplies no food.

[@owenh906]

@@adejal how does this relate to anything i said?

[@ladieslilbitch]

I have always thought that. Get those dangerous fuck-ng monsters off our damn roads. When I ever seen one, I get around and far beyond it as soon as possible. One of those assholes falls asleep, and they often do, and a whole lot of people are going to die. Not me, because I keep the F away from them. Hate them. I often imagine pulling out a rocket launcher and blowing them right off the highway. Many also act like they own the damn road. They are not even careful. Bullies. Totally with you on this.

[@TheDiner50]

That is called a train. You know the kind of things in China they use to transport people around fast in? And in USA mainly cargo travel by instead of people? And both system are bad for no reason but politics and such. Even in non named countries and places are trains missuses or underutilized. It is the electric car/van/lorrie/airplane we need. And we have had it for so long that it predates almost everything in transport! Yea lorries are a bloody nightmare since so much of lorries are going around instead of staying on train wagons and keeping roads safer and the climate in check. It is really insane to have heavy vehicles unnecessary travel on roads when trains are just so much better in almost every way. To make a road just for lorries is really dum. Only time it makes sense really is for forests and places that do not need a railway but need roads for transport ones in a while. But normal people do not require the road for everyday life. This roads are often made with dirt and rarely used for anything but lorries. Or to make roads to stop lorries from going into cities and instead go around congested areas with a already high usage, like a city. Since if the cargo have nothing to do in the city why go in there? But lorries are cool. We can almost not exist without them. Maybe tractors can do the jobs of lorries but really lorries are very often called tractors. Very purpose built tractors. Think about it. We need tractors and they are basically essential. Trucks and SUV's are the real nightmare! Only reason to own a truck is to have a fifth wheeler so basically a medium/light duty lorry. Or it is used as wagon/trailer vehicle on a farm. Like they did back in the day moving hay and such instead of the tractor. And having a way into town. People that use trucks for a purpuse I have no problem with but truck/SUV people are like Ferrari and such owners just bad people. Lorries people! Trucks are the stupid things that never do anything useful and do not even have seating like a SUV got. Lorries are heavy and do useful stuff. And usually only driven to do work for others. Trucks are a SUV but without seats. And SUV's are heavy made only to be safe on the road by being the bigger on the road. And luxuriously and what not. Any real "trucker" call there rig a tractor. Lorries makes it clear that your talking about a tractor and not a SUV.

[@anomitas]

Or I have a great idea... Rails

[@numgun]

"China is one of the safest places in the world!" -Winston, circa 4 years ago

[@Jayfordays89]

Here in Vietnam, I witnessed a large crowd gathered around. I got closer and saw a young girl, probably no older than 18yo unconscious and being savagely beaten up by 4 men. The entire crowd stood round watching, some of the filmed it. But not a single person stepped in to intervene or help this poor girl. Yet if I step in to help, everyone will turn on me as the foreigner. And I've actually told Vietnamese girls about this and said that Vietnamese men are cowards, for both doing this and also not helping. And they actually get angry at me for calling them cowards. Asian cultures are horrifying.

[@jamesgarner327]

I've seen that in Europe too, I was always the only one to move...Most people I know tell me I should mind my own business and not get involved.

[@prdalien0]

"The truck stalks its prey, its favoured method of attack is catching prey by surprise around sharp bends. Today the bikers have escaped, but the trucks will return and in greater numbers."

[@davidneufeld26]

Ah. Back to showing us a unique, raw road trip perspective of actual China. That's why I watch you guys. To understand a place (in this case China) as best I can -- at a very human level -- without being able to go there and do the same thing. Makes China look human, not exotic. But still fascinating in the ways it is similar, yet different from my own "world".

[@davidneufeld26]

@Master General 🙄

[@DisgruntledDoomer]

Makes China look human? More like *in*human...

[@LuvBorderCollies]

I have never had the desire to visit China..ever in my life. But C-Milk and Winston make it super interesting sharing all the nuances and details of life in China.

[@davidneufeld26]

@@LuvBorderCollies Glad you have the interest and "nuance" yourself to be curious of seeing China in detail even while not having ever had the desire to visit. I hope you can see the humanity in what Winston and Matt portray. There is a subset of their "fan-base" that gravitates to using their material to entrench their own isolated perspectives, agendas and even prejudices, which is disturbing. Winston and Matt get a bit too sour at times -- particularly Winston -- due to their own raw life experiences. But the diversity of humanity connection still prevails in their content, and they try to make a point of it when realizing their take gets too bitter.

[@robertlee3778]

" a unique, raw road trip perspective of actual China." I'm not sure if it is unique to China because I have seen similar risk-taking, dangerous behavior exhibited in Thailand as well (this was about 30 years ago, taking an overnight bus trip to northern Thailand from Bangkok; I'm not sure if it has changed and I suspected that it has not). I suspect that this is either an Asian (including India) mentality or a non-Western mentality (i.e., I don't know how African culture compares). I suspect that this type of mentality has to do more about overall wealth of a nation (Singapore and Japan does not really this type of culture) because there is a cost to providing safety. In any case, yes, it is interesting to see how different cultures exist.

[@phleef]

You two gentlemen are my lens to into lives of a billion plus humans on the opposite side of the globe. Been watching both of you from the jump and what an incredible education you've provided here. My sincerest thanks.

[@LebowskiDudeful]

Well put. I married a sociopath monster created by Chinese government, because these videos didn't exist back then. So consider yourself super lucky, you dodged a bullet learning this way.

[@Proclivitytolife]

Ahhhh yeah. Ready to learn yet again from the seemingly only source I can get the real low down on China. You guys understand China even better than my own wife (Chinese), who admits as much herself. As she is used to saying "that South African and the Milk guy know what they're talking about."

[@ConsciousOne369]

I lived in China for 3 years from 2015 to 2018 and these guys are on point , miss those days 😢

[@theaveragejoe5781]

😂 the milk guy

[@ashtoncouch476]

@Master General I can't stand Steve Turley 😂

[@tsnap6446]

The milk guy 🤣

[@dangalanga6941]

As much as I loved these guys content while they were in China, they haven’t been there for many years now and the content shows it Can’t wait for them to leave the states again for new content

[@sandie157]

What you said about 'fate' and India struck home, especially with regard to dying, but also with regard to allowing social injustice to continue. Did you see that in China too? I truly appreciate your commentary and also the visual experiences of the regions rarely if ever seen by foreigners.

[@ReedoTV]

Do you think fate lowers voter turnout in India? I imagine it must be a factor

[@sandie157]

@@ReedoTV I wonder?

[@LuvBorderCollies]

Islam is very fatalistic too. "its Allah's will". The mentality also effects other aspects of the society as a whole.

[@elzoog]

"with regard to allowing social injustice to continue." Can you give me some examples of this? One I can think of might be, defending the caste system, but maybe you have better examples?

[@kavousniamir2375]

Definitely Iran too... nothing happens unless God wants it... it's all predetermined... God's will

[@Guildofarcanelore]

I understand the lack of altruism. Whenever I did something just to help I got people questioning my reasons, although I didn’t gain from it.

[@gordonliu3972]

In China?

[@Guildofarcanelore]

@@gordonliu3972 yes, I was a teacher in Wuxi and Nanjing from 2017-2020

[@glorioustigereye]

During London bombing raids during Ww2 I heard people got really careless about the raids because after surviving multiple they got the idea they where immune.

[@arlenbell4376]

I really enjoy you videos from on the road in China and hope to see you posting motorcycle adventures in the US.

[@chromabotia]

Thanks for this guys. As a life long biker this pov footage from China is very enjoyable.

[@AnabolicAsylum]

I’ve been listening to both of your channels while driving all day today, great timing with the new upload!

[@picorodaimacu00]

This is was a fabulous chapter graphically & textually, keep up the good work!

[@utha2665]

I've experienced a little of this yuen fen or fate when I made a trip into the mountains near Chongqing and on our way home we came across a motorbike that had hit a truck. The truck driver either didn't see him or decided just not to stop as the poor guy was dragged underneath for hundreds of metres. The traffic was at a stand still for over an hour and the amount of people that got out to get a better vantage point was almost obscene, something I'd rather not see.

[@somesortofdeliciousbiscuit3704]

The Chinese Boomers grew up in famine that was traumatic - that sort of thing leaves marks on the children (Millenials) both in terms of parenting and also genetically. Even in the best case scenario that would take a lot of time and resources to heal such damage.

[@MrKillswitch88]

I wouldn't count on that damage being healed given how things have gone over the last few years with the world going to shit. So now it will be an global food and energy crises coupled to economic problems so the younger generations are doomed so no wonder why many of the young in China have subscribed to Bai Lan.

[@corndog2780]

famine causes greed in descendants, remember the prawn video where the chinese tourists take as many as possible?

Previous starvation makes you suicidal in driving? It does not even make an excuse

[@alect5953]

Gen X are the kids of Boomers.

[@youtubeshadowbannedme]

@@alect5953 only the younger gen X'ers, older millennials are the vast majority of boomers' kids

[@OmniCausticInfidel]

i loved this video because your commentary is really focused on the video and explaining things as they are happening. it felt just like an old in-China ADVchina video!

[@AndyJarman]

You guys were lucky not to have ended up ironed flat on the road. That footage was exhausting.

[@xulapostasy7132]

The thing with taxis is: it's not an issue if you're a good driver or not. I'm worried about other idiots on the road that might crash into us. Then it doesn't matter how good of a driver you are!

[@andersonomo597]

Completely agree! I've been driving far longer than I care to admit and at driving school, we were taught to think/believe/assume that all the other drivers were idiots. Have taught my daughter to drive with the same careful regard for other drivers.

[@Elenrai]

@@andersonomo597 on 2 wheels that is always the mantra; any car on the road is to be presumed to be on the road specifically to hit ME.

[@andersonomo597]

@@Elenrai Great attitude ! I see SO many bike riders who think their nimbleness makes them invincible! Dad always said when you have an accident it doesn't matter if you're in the right. It's still a horrible problem you have to deal with. And cars/bikes can be replaced but even if people survive, their lives are usually changed for the worse.

[@ChakraVart1]

Driving in India is exactly the same. Literally I saw your video and I thought you guys came here. But we do help people in trouble so that’s different.

[@arthurjohnson9135]

Actually, wearing a seat belt in the front seats of a car is required by law in China, and drivers of taxis and other car services routinely insist that front seat passengers wear them. In addition, many auto insurance companies now include a clause in their policies requiring back-seat passengers in a car to wear seat belts as well. One of the results is that drivers of taxis and other car services now often insist that back-seat passengers buckle up. In China, fate doesn't stand much of a chance against the power of the insurance companies.

[@youtubeshadowbannedme]

lol insurance companies are a pain everywhere

[@briansmith2163]

My grand nephew has a leap frog brand talking globe. Touch it with a stylus and it describes the country. I was SHOCKED that it has the 9 dash line, and worse, when you touch Taiwan, it says that it is the peoples republic of china. SUPER EVIL !!

[@napalmholocaust9093]

The road I grew up on was the death road. It only had a few spots straight enough for the line to not be double yellow and pass safely. The semis ran in packs 20+ deep. It was 2 lanes for 150 miles along a curvy river. They refused to take the tollroad 20 miles away when tolls shot-up and clogged the secondary overnight. How many semis can you pass at once in a mile? 7? 9? 13 at 90+mph? Sure. So many died they built a whole new 150 miles nearly stick straight between the river and the pike. Coulda dropped the tolls back down and not built a whole new 8 lane interstate parallel to the pike.

[@TheHughzt]

This reminds me of Steven Spielberg's first film, "Duel". It was about a menacing truck sparring with a guy in an underpowered car. Thanks again for another interesting insight into Chinese culture.

[@javaskull88]

I had no idea that was Spielberg! I saw it on TV when I was a kid.

[@BenjaminLupton]

When I was motorbiking in Indonesia, got absolutely winded by something striking my chest. Felt as if I had been shot. Had a bruise for weeks. Turns out it was one of their huge moths that impacted me.

[@danblumel]

Big Cajones to ride a motorcycle in Indonesia. Craziest drivers of any place I've ever been

[@thelcbond]

Do you think that "let it rot" could be in part a rebellion from this expected attitude of fate? I kinda get the sense that many in China are tired of expectation that they recklessly risk their life for the greater glory of(fill any one of the many possible reasons). Just throwing this out.

[@colette8022]

Toll roads in Japan were the bane of my existence. They could cut travel time in half in may places but they were so expensive to use if you’re a solo traveler like me.

[@Woodscraps-lr5vz]

You've got a good point, but I'd also recommend you drive across Wyoming after a winter storm. You could probably jump across turned over trucks and wrecks for miles and miles in places. There's something about the motoring culture in general that accepts a certain amount of carnage.

[@atticstattic]

Been there, done that - never again!

Wyoming is such a harsh place. I drove on interstate in WY in Nov 2017. Miles and miles of windy dry highland. I met young a driver outside of a remote convenience store and his lips were all cracked and he apparently had some vitamin deficiency

[@Awakeandalive1]

In Latin America there's a similar concept to those you introduced at the start of this video. It's summed up in "Si Dios quiere" -- "If God wills it." In America or the UK you might say "God willing" as almost an apotropaic statement, intended to ward off harm and hoping for the outcome expressed. But in Latin America "Si Dios quiere" we generally understand to be a fatalistic excuse, a way of attributing to God (or Fate or Providence or what-have-you) the fact that we probably won't do or don't want to do the thing under discussion.

[@theaveragejoe5781]

I see, still the old office setup 😁 Seriously, great footage!

[@Jyryp]

This kind of thing or rather in somewhat different form a thing especially for guys around age 18-20, i remember someone who lectured about these things in school calling it "immortality complex", basically what you guys said "it wont happen to me" mindset without fate/luck and all that with it. Theres a good reason why people especially guys around that age have spike in accidents or deaths involving traffic. I remember time when in 1970's seatbelts became mandatory in my country, some people didnt like it, there was short program about it and one of the last things they show is guy saying "is it really such bother to take a few seconds out of your life to put seatbelt on?" then they show him in wheelchair and he says he drove around 30km/h hit his head on steering wheel and became permantly paralyzed from waist down. It does not take much to get really bad damage on body even on low speeds if you dont have seatbelt on.

[@juergensmolinski4448]

The exception is the island/province of Hainan. I have lived there for more than 10 years. There is no motorway toll because they have added it to the price of fuel, which is 1 yuan higher than on the mainland.

[@DeptalJexus]

This happens in Thailand too and I think it's a stupid mindset. People commit shenanigans on daily basis due to their believe in "fate"

[@vls3771]

I work in construction in a city ...we closed one lane around a building for a few days so it was one way only a group of Chinese in a hired mini bus came in the Wrong end and made their way down until they met cars coming toward them we had to run out and sort the problem however the Chinese driver would not open his window and would not take instructions he just kept staring at the Google map pushing buttons! ... incredible!? Google didn't know the road was altered so the Chinese ignored us as locals and traffic built up on both sides for over an hour the police came and ordered them to do as we say .....finally got them out bizaar indeed.........trusting google maps instead of local people while stuck on the wrong side of road with dozens of horns going off ..go figure??

[@slidenapps]

Typical Chinese.

[@FrugalPCOG]

It's exactly why the Chinese Military was able to send mass waves of unarmed Chinese soldiers into a wall of American fire during the Korean war. Because the average soldier was of this mind. It's fate as to whether I live or die. That's something that should terrify everyone in a military scenario. It's how the Japanese felt during the 2nd world war which is why they were so feared in battle.

[@Pewpew1789]

I am so glad you guys survived your adventures in China. I absolutely love you guys you show so much love for China every day. Keep it up and I can’t wait to learn more about your life’s and about China

[@Pinkwolf1234]

haha use our word is ,these two guys fates are two god damn good😁😁 they can escape from Ccp police ,they can survive from terrible traffic ,they can still alive from our poisonous cooking oil. that is awesome. but frankly speaking they are tellig the truth .those are the real life we faced everyday😢

[@Aurkus23]

One of the first things I hear about in China is the crazy traffic. Thank you for giving an explanation on it.

[@Kevan_VG]

Very glad you guys are stilling putting out videos driving in China is insanely dangerous especially on bikes much love for you both

[@elzoog]

I drive an electric bike in China and I can tell you that it has improved the past 2 or 3 years. This is because the police decided to get really anal about people obeying traffic rules and they had police at almost every block in the city I live in (Shangrao)

[@romanpolanski4928]

I can attest to the truth of this video from my own experiences on roads in Northern Sichuan. I witnessed some absolutely terrifying driving there.

[@gordonliu3972]

This was a baddass episode. 👏

[@porsche9302]

I have always been curious why the trucks or cars are just left there on the side of the road after accidents.

[@HappyQuailsLC]

The concept of "fate" seems to be a reflection of their overall sense of powerlessness in light of their various government systems over the years.

[@ericvulgate]

This idea is big in India. My father interviewed men who cripple children and put them out on the street to beg. They feel no guilt for what they do, take no responsibility- The children must have bad karma from previous lives.

[@Morphfromx-men]

Does this actually exist in india? This made me physically ill to find out. This world is turning into a fucked up nightmare.

[@spac18]

@@Morphfromx-men younger generation doesn't believe in those stuff mostly, but yes, people believe in fate.

[@Horseofhope]

What a beautiful culture

[@darcyking14]

Damn that truck juice would be hell for a rider 😅 never really took notice of how good at riding you guys are!!

[@romanregman1469]

"Survivor bias" at its finest, refined in Mao-Mao's school of hard knocks, practiced under the fatherly care of Ping-Ping.

[@waynebernitt2806]

You haven't been in china long enough until you see a scooter with three people on it and think " I could get two more on there"

[@lamwen03]

"Just another guy whose luck ran out".

[@javaskull88]

This attitude may help explain the inadequate safety protocols in China’s research laboratories.

[@gordonliu3972]

🤣

[@peggysue457]

Thailand is similarly not worried about dead bodies in roads. They assume the person went on to a higher life.

[@DicePunk]

As a Chinese person I'd say "predestined" is a decent enough translation.

[@thesearchernow]

Most of Europe has this thing as well with paying on highways for the distance traveled, especially on vehicles above 3.5 tonnes - but rules can differ.. for example: UK's price is a fixed amount per day regardless of distance traveled (depending on the type and size of vehicle), Germany's toll is the same everywhere (price/km) and even has an on board unit that monitors your journey and constantly updates your balance, while France and Spain has toll gates and the price is fixed on that portion between them / yet once you do the math, some portions have 1.5x or even double the price / km compared to others!!

[@sbeers88]

This attitude reminds me of the time I lived in Thailand. Whenever a farang would die, the Thais would just shake their head and say, well, it wouldn't have happened if they weren't here.

[@leunisvandewege9651]

I know exactly the same "fate" culture from Paraguay. I think overthere it comes mostly from the indigenous (indian) population. If you live a "natural" live in nature you have very little control over your environment and what is happening to you, so a culture of "fate" is the best option. Then when you get more and more (technical) control over your environment and what happens a culture of responsibility gets to be the better option for your society. Of course these changes are a process that takes (a lot of) time and have huge overlaps.

[@Josh.Stovall]

7:00 In Florida trucks are not allowed in the passing lane on the interstate. US DOT requires all trucks to be weighed throughout the country on interstate highways. There are other regulations that are specific to wheeled vehicles, and we have restricted roads throughout the country. California has the strictest regulations in the country. And to travel in the metro areas of the tri-state area (i.e. NY, NJ, PA) is heavily tolled.

[@ケンヤ10]

I was involved in an accident on one these roads in 2002 while riding in a mianbaoche. A guy on a motorcycle coming from a side road hit the side of our vehicle and we ended up being flipped on the side. Fortunately, none of use were injured. That was the last time I rode in a mianbaoche during my 17-year stay in China. I guess fate was with us that day.

[@cam5816]

Crazy that you were in a van and a motorcycle could still flipped YOU over

[@roopi67]

I was told that if a Chinese person is about to make a risky business decision, they would go gambling at a casino just to see which way their luck is taking them , which would influence their business decision. Is that a thing?

[@spac18]

This one actually makes sence tbh. When you are taking a risky business decision, you need a little bit of luck, as it's really about chance.

[@ElenaKomleva]

In Russia it used to be like that, that using seat belts was seen as disrespectful to the driver, as if you don't trust his driving skills. (At least that was the case 10 years ago or so, not sure if that has changed)

[@gamecubekingdevon3]

7:08 ---> we actually have something very similar in france, in some portions of highway that got privatised, you have to pay to get there (so, you got like checkpoints where you got to pay, and then once you have paid they ley you trough thoose checkpoints) (worth noting that the price each time is often double digit, stuff like 15 to 20€, wich equate to approx 2 hours of work at minimal wage here, and that thoose privately owned portions of the highways aren't in any better shape than the tax-payer funded publicly owned ones)

[@rosiecatbandit]

Lots of really nice healthy young tree plantings on the side of the highway around minute 11:35. Certainly healthier looking than I've seen here in the UK, where they just plant them to tick environmental boxes but never look at them again.

[@kshred3043]

3:18 Really ? You were in a taxi in China with an accessible seat belt ? More often than not they are covered by a seat cover.

[@chuckwhitson654]

Nice side-by-side tour in reverse through rural China

[@Jayfordays89]

Exactly the same in Vietnam. I live here and feel like every time I go on the road will be my last. Seen so many horrific accidents, partly due to the incompetence of motorbike users and the carelessness of these awful, disgusting trucks. People ride bikes like a child on GTA and people will even let their kids stick out of the sunroof of cars. And also, nobody will ever step in during bad situations. They're basically the same. Yet they vehemently deny having anything in common with China.

[@Anonymous-iw4hx]

wow, i had a much better impression during my two short stays in hanoi, i am actually considering hanoi to be my next step after china

[@Jayfordays89]

@@Anonymous-iw4hx Its better than China overall but far more similar than they'll let on

[@jaspermartin7444]

thank you for that. I've been wondering how the other asian countries compare to china. (All but japan that is, I'm familiar with japan and like it a lot.)

[@mgancarzjr]

"You can get on the interstates, and it's free." *cries in tollway* Gentlemen, allow me to introduce you to I-390!

[@teeg7078]

Great video!

[@cfc1001001cfc]

I'm grateful that you survived China, and I'm a bit sad that a similar trip across the U.S. would probably be...kinda boring. Any plans to drive your bikes down to Central America, or up the ALCAN to Alaska?

[@fupopanda]

You guys were in a convoy though. That's quite dangerous driving.

[@googlemonster3011]

The way Winston speaks these days and sometime on the edge of belittlement , how is Matthew (aka C-Milk) continue to put up with him?

[@RoseNZieg]

i recalled having a talk with someone about how a criminal who is not punished in life will be punished in the afterlife. my reaction was: i don't care about the afterlife. i only care about this life.

[@ThePegasiPony]

This is fascinating. I kinda believe this way too. Like, if I'm meant to die in some weird accidental way then that's the way it is. Like for example the other day I told my mom I wanted to go to the county fair and she was saying how those rides are set up in like a day. And I was thinking, if I'm on the one ride that fatally malfunctions, then there's nothing I can do about that. But I also take all common sense precautions I can and I don't recklessly put myself into situations that are dangerous just cuz I think "fate" will protect me. You still have to have common sense and your wits about you about these things.

[@MaynardGK]

Hmm. Soldiers who rely entirely on fate may make for a fearless and extremely effective army.

[@ruthanneseven]

Thanks guys! I've missed these road stories. 👍

[@chrisbowman9578]

I was going to school in Shenyang in 98'. I was in a Taxi and the driver hit a boy on a bike. He looked out the window and then i looked out my window. The boy was still moving so the cabbie drove off. I kept my mouth shut

[@vindiesel5466]

Guys as a trucker down under, I wouldn't say the brakes in their trucks are primitive, but on hilly terrain with alot of steep descents brakes in trucks heat up really quickly which means you loose stopping ability really quickly. However in western countries we don't use the spray water on brakes to cool them down method. We use engine brakes and have to go really slow on long descents so our brakes don't heat up. Having been to China and Vietnam I observed bus and coach drivers always looked really stressed , worked really long hours and did crazy overtaking maneuvered. Travelling by bus in Asia on their interstate routes would be a big no no for me

[@kcgeil]

The more I see of modern China, the more I'm reminded of the UK in the 1980's and earlier. Societal immaturity was the norm, and doing the sensible thing was mocked.

[@Fireneedsair]

Very interesting guys

[@scarletpimpernel230]

9:30: "I''m not going to get graphic about it, but....I've seen people's organs spilled out on the road....I won't say which ones, so you don't have a mental picture...and whole families burnt up inside their breadbox cars...." Thanks for sparing us, Matthew...

[@issecret1]

It's really interesting, because Romania had the same attitude up to the early 2010s. That being insulted when people wear seatbelts in your car was a real thing here too. But we grew out of that, surprisingly

[@tessw9744]

If I lived under all that hardship from that government, I might be kinda feeling like "If I die I die" not exactly a hopeful place.😂

[@PushyPawn]

I missed these SO much!

[@lukelu8042]

totally enjoying your riding show, I wonder since you are not in China, these videos must be old stock videos, when do you run out of them?

[@Foche_T._Schitt]

"You don't think I'm a good driver?" No, I think everyone else is a bad driver.

[@Earthneedsado-over177]

That's sort of what I would say. I'm not worried about you it's the other drivers that worry me.

[@CasaFassa]

Can’t stand trucks on the road! Great explanation why they’re so reckless even on the E bikes! Also, I was always shocked how some pedestrians would walk in the E bike lane rather than the proper sidewalk. “How on earth can they trust the E bike riders not to plow into them? Why be so dangerous for nothing other than simply walking somewhere?” But I didn’t know they thought testing fate everyday is a good idea 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@Anonymous-iw4hx]

When i visited chongqing some years ago, we took a cab from the airport to down town, the driver went 160kph on a fairly empty road, but still, he then even started a "battle", so to speak, with a BMW driver, after we told him to take it easy he went slower again, really really mad

[@jontsang7334]

Thanks guys. It always puzzles me why main lander doesn't like seatbelt whereas Hong Konger feels naked without them.

[@methanial73]

Funny you mentioned dangerous trucks. I saw within one week two semi's turned over because they were going too fast around a corner. One was right in front of me. They didn't slow down to the 25mph speed limit.

[@teebosaurusyou]

Were there two trucks in that collision or just one? Your cell phone is always blocking your helmet cam.

[@_faultee_]

Over here in NJ, USA there are mainly two highways that go north to south. The NJ Turnpike and the Garden State Parkway, the Turnpike has very expensive tolls but is way less garbage. Less traffic, better upkeep and it safer because of less people. Even though there are always thousands of cars on the highways because of the insane population of NJ but the Parkway is so trash. Sometimes the way people drive here reminds me of ur guys videos of driving in mainland Asia.

[@Jabberstax]

It seems strange to see blue skies in your background video.

[@closetheark]

Acceptance of Fate would probably be beneficial to their army. It would bring additional courage & acceptance in dire battles. Probably is why the government doesn't persist against it.