GET OUT! - Foreigners Being Kicked Out of China

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Foreigners are leaving en masse, and also being forced out by new policies of the Chinese government, which is only promoting xenophobia and nationalism.
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@ADVChina
@ADVChina 2 жыл бұрын
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@dtsai
@dtsai 2 жыл бұрын
Umm... Aren't they going to have a population collapse soon? Don't they have 300 million angry single Chinese Men who want to get married? Don't they want immigration to help with those social issues?
@China_Secret_Police
@China_Secret_Police 2 жыл бұрын
Looks like C-Milks 3rd concern is correct. Go F-ing figure.
@Will_Smith_Slapping_Xi_Jinping
@Will_Smith_Slapping_Xi_Jinping 2 жыл бұрын
@@China_Secret_Police If Xi wants these hands, he can get it like Walking Street in Pattaya.
@David_Lo_Pan
@David_Lo_Pan 2 жыл бұрын
@@Will_Smith_Slapping_Xi_Jinping How about giving him a job at the White Tiger?
@CHINESE_PRIDE
@CHINESE_PRIDE 2 жыл бұрын
@@David_Lo_Pan More like Orchid Towers. Featuring a Xi Xi dance in Galang.
@KW3IMANN
@KW3IMANN 2 жыл бұрын
👍I live in China for over 20 Years.. Left China for good 2019.. I have to tell, that all what you Guys say about China is 100% true!!!
@Pssst.ByTheWay
@Pssst.ByTheWay 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for speaking your experience. Knowing about a situation is the start to dealing with a situation Truth 💪
@uwanttono4012
@uwanttono4012 2 жыл бұрын
I likewise spent a considerable period of time in China (15 years) and like you I left for good in 2019. Overall I had a great time in China but what the guys say about long term foreign residents of China been treated as if they just got off the boat (or airplane) is so true. China makes it very difficult for foreigners to make long term plans to live there and then the general rule is that once you turn sixty they kick you out irrespective of your contribution to Chinese society. The exceptions to staying beyond sixty are honored more in the breech than in the observance and when granted are due more to guanxi than the exemptions permitting foreigners to stay after sixty.
@dongshengdi773
@dongshengdi773 2 жыл бұрын
@@uwanttono4012 What a Coincidence ! ! ! my friend had lived in China for almost 20 years , and Also left in 2019 because He couldn't renew his visa . I knew then that foreigners were being slowly expelled from China . As a Chinese , I vouch for SerpentZA and LaoWhy that They are speaking the Truth and I totally agree with what They're saying
@silvervixen007
@silvervixen007 2 жыл бұрын
I agree! I haven't been there that long but long enough to see what's up
@Mattsta2010
@Mattsta2010 2 жыл бұрын
@@dongshengdi773 10 years and I agree. Vietnam, Thailand, Indonesia...less money but less mafan!
@katiemueller4978
@katiemueller4978 2 жыл бұрын
I traveled all over China in 2010 and loved it because I saw the glimmer of growth and hope. I was finally able to move there in 2016 and left in 2021. I felt a really swift decline in 2018 when the term limits were removed and by the time I left, Grandparents were telling their grandchildren to hold their breath and cross to the other side of the street to stay away from the foreigners. I still have coworkers there buried in toxic positivity or oblivious as to what actually going on. I cannot express how grateful I am to have you guys speaking the truth, keep waking people up!
@joseph3036
@joseph3036 2 жыл бұрын
You wouldn't realize how toxic and evil China is until you've lived there for at least 5 years.
@jamesdrake2378
@jamesdrake2378 2 жыл бұрын
When I read this I thought if they "kicked out" all the foreigners who would they blame for whatever they wish to place blame upon.
@wisdomleader85
@wisdomleader85 2 жыл бұрын
Good to see you were able to leave in 2021. I'm Chinese myself. When "The Great Firewall" was imposed across China around 2006, I already had a feeling that something wasn't right. I left China in 2010, and you're right, 2018 was the benchmark for many. The Chinese constitution amendment allowed us to see Xi's true color eventually, and the disastrous fate of China in the future.
@aoeu256
@aoeu256 2 жыл бұрын
Dude is xenophobic xenophobia in China really that bad, I got my Japanese to n2 around 2015 and I noticed insane amounts of xenophobia from the Japanese, and I had Chinese simply offer to teach me Chinese, and I noticed Chinese were much warmer and easier to talk to so I decided to stop learning Japanese and learn Chinese. Lately I notice the Chinese seem more xenophobic than before, although Japanese still seem colder and getting colder. If I learn Malay or Vietnamese they will start to get cold as soon as my linguistic abilities improve, hmm. Maybe I can live in a cheap area with tons of Chinese like Malaysia or Latinamerica...
@jamesdrake2378
@jamesdrake2378 2 жыл бұрын
@@aoeu256 This is my understanding as well from listening to these channels, many people have no understanding of this
@realfloridaredneck1988
@realfloridaredneck1988 2 жыл бұрын
I'm one of those foreigners that stayed in China, almost everything you're saying is true. However, many of us that are still here are absolutely not shills for the CCP, and I definitely don't hope that you guys stop telling the truth. Thank you for being the voice of those of us who aren't able to speak our voice without fear of retaliation. I'm only here for work, I'm hoping I can get transferred back to the United States soon. I've been in China since 2010, it will be hard to leave a place that I fell in love with, but it's definitely time.
@aoeu256
@aoeu256 2 жыл бұрын
Many things about the US suck though... suburbs were built by lobbying by koch brothers to make people car dependent and use oil with residential areas and business areas far away, its hard to maintain friends b/c of how many of the suburbs are built, the health costs are insane, there is no flexibility around laws like in China, the cost of living is high and getting higher, US spends a lot of its spending on the military.
@steeevo0136
@steeevo0136 2 жыл бұрын
@@scintillam_dei
@scintillam_dei
@scintillam_dei 2 жыл бұрын
@@steeevo0136 Hilarious, original and truthful.
@ytdertignulses201
@ytdertignulses201 2 жыл бұрын
I'll bet that USA is happy too.
@TimeTraveller010
@TimeTraveller010 2 жыл бұрын
@@scintillam_dei Are you for real? I would never renounce my freedom as a westerner for what is happening in China now. I'm in Australia, I left China mid March. You don't feel the anti-foreigner sentiment? I would be glad to return to the U.S. China is not the place to be now, re-evaluate what is priority, money and possibly jail, or Freedom the U.S and the West.
@JoytoHisWorld
@JoytoHisWorld 2 жыл бұрын
I left China last week after twenty years there. The airport was like something out of the apocalypse. My flight was the only flight on the board, and the regulations for getting out were so stringent that the flight was delayed for hours. It was the same for my family this week, and the same yesterday for my friends who were expelled after 30 years there. I love the Chinese people and much of my family is Chinese. It’s truly heartbreaking to see the tremendous harm these governmental changes are bringing about. The China I lived in and loved for so long is no more.
@Video2Webb
@Video2Webb 2 жыл бұрын
Oh so sad to read your testimony - and damned scary. This type of thinking is definitely pumping people up to go to war with the West... Just like pre-War Germany did. Fascism is abroad again in both China and Russia, god help us all.
@asouma231
@asouma231 2 жыл бұрын
Twenty years !!!! So should be so difficult to leave after all this period that is sad
@JoytoHisWorld
@JoytoHisWorld 2 жыл бұрын
@@asouma231 yes, so difficult. It was home.
@yongbobe478
@yongbobe478 2 жыл бұрын
so true... I miss that China...
@uwanttono4012
@uwanttono4012 2 жыл бұрын
I sympathize with your plight for I too had to leave after living there for 15 glorious years!! Never mind what (little) contribution, taxes paid and family connections I made to the country. It's a shame that the government's policies are so short sighted, To paraphrase WB Yeats, "romantic China is dead and gone; it's with XJP in the grave".
@robmchardie1982
@robmchardie1982 2 жыл бұрын
I lived and worked in China from 2003 to 2019 starting in language schools then onto Universities. My last contact and visa was valid until July 2020 when i would be then turning 61 years old. However, in May 2019, the authorities turned up and told the College that as I was turning 60 at the end of the month, they could no longer employ me and I had to leave the country within 3 days of the notice.....Shock to the System and a frantic 72 hours. .I was escorted to the Airport by College police to make sure I left on my flight back to Australia....but in hindsight, how lucky was |....now happily living in Uruguay...
@benjamintoh3873
@benjamintoh3873 2 жыл бұрын
They made you leave in 3 days!??? You are legally entitled a 30-days "humanitarian" visa! Bastards!
@benjamintoh3873
@benjamintoh3873 2 жыл бұрын
Thinking back, it is probably during the time when China-Aussie relationship is going down-under (pardon the pun). They probably wanna boot any Aussie they can lay their hands on, thinking it will pressure the Australian Government if its people are chased out of their jobs in China.
@TheDrearydroid
@TheDrearydroid 2 жыл бұрын
Hi There...What is happening/ what are you doing in Uruguay?
@robmchardie1982
@robmchardie1982 2 жыл бұрын
@@everydayisabadday Hi Andrew, Im so sorry to hear of your bad experiences which has left you with this opinion...I started with the ESL gigs and worked my way into University specialising in IELTS and conducting British Council testing and over the final 5 years I was earning around $4000 USD a month after taxes including return airfares once a year, 12 weeks holidays, medical coverage, accommodation....thus my longer stay as to answer your WTF.....and now able to live comfortably retired in the most liberal country in the world while you pollute the earth....whos the bonehead...
@Ufthak
@Ufthak 2 жыл бұрын
How is it in Uruguay? Is it a good market for international schools and university education in general? I think South America is a wise choice to emigrate to in light of recent geopolitical developments. In case s**t really hits the fan.
@onewhoisanonymous
@onewhoisanonymous 2 жыл бұрын
There are many of us who remained in China because the money was good and we were comfortable with our lifestyles. After the pandemic, the mood shifted. The foreign population significantly decreased resulting in less foreign business and less communities for foreigners. During the lock downs, many business were treating their foreigners like crap. Yes there were lock downs, but many school/companies were telling foreigners not to leave their campus or making the foreigners' lives hell if they tried to leave their cities or community. Local business were acting like foreigners had the plague and treated foreigners like they were carriers of COVID. I know many people who been in China for 10 plus years that leaving because it has become too much. Unfortunately, I reached my limit too. I am leaving as soon as I can.
@CrimsonMenace1
@CrimsonMenace1 2 жыл бұрын
I’m still here. I’m in Jiangsu, and I’m in the same boat. But, I’m helping family financially, so I can’t bounce. To be honest, I’m just tired. Days all feel the same. I can’t smile anymore. I just want to be happy…
@chowfurnowmeow
@chowfurnowmeow 2 жыл бұрын
Get out before the CCP find a reason/make up a crime and lock you up.
@piked261
@piked261 2 жыл бұрын
Hurry up and bugger off
@hanfucolorful9656
@hanfucolorful9656 2 жыл бұрын
@@CrimsonMenace1 If you read his post carefully, he (onewhoisanonymous 17 hours ago) is unhappy because he is not allowed to leave the city during the lockdown. I also noticed foreigners complain that they cannot receive their online-ordered Blueberries.
@90deltaderivatives35
@90deltaderivatives35 2 жыл бұрын
@@CrimsonMenace1 I am curious since you are in China you still have free access to KZbin my friend!?
@realrhetoric
@realrhetoric 2 жыл бұрын
When HK was being handed over to the Mainland, there were some 24,000 people who had no clear ancestry/nationality other than HK and who were not Chinese. The Chinese refused to give them citizenship in China because they didn't have Chinese ancestry. Finally, the UK relented and gave them UK citizenship. China is an ethnostate. Not only do they not grant citizenship to those who are not of Chinese ancestry, other ethnicities -- like the Manchus, the Southern Mongolians, the Tibetans and the Turkic speaking peoples of Eastern Turkmenistan get genocided. It has been this way for many, many centuries.
2 жыл бұрын
That only happened since Nanking Government (1928-
@Markus451
@Markus451 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, what a coincidence.. Russia is like that too. They're both empires where the ethnic majority has used force to expand their borders and incorporate vast lands full of involuntary subjects. Tibet, Siberia, etc.
@realrhetoric
@realrhetoric 2 жыл бұрын
@@Markus451 No, not at all. Russia is not like that. Russia is a multi-ethnic Empire. Always has been. Now, there are of course conflicts between different groups, and they come into and out of imperial favour (not to mention rivalries between them), so if you take a snapshot at any one time, it may seem like this side or that side is getting the better end of the deal. But it is not comparable to China's Mono-ethnicism. Much of the "soul" of the Russian state has rested, historically, on the concept of it being "the new Rome" and there's a civilizational responsibility tied to Christianity. A good case study in recent times which highlights the contrasts between the Russian and Chinese lies in Mongolia, which was split. The Chinese side got genocided. The Russian side had their culture respected and to a certain degree nurtured. Yes, it got dragged into modernity kicking and screaming, and the Russians were not always that kind to it, but it did survive and continues to thrive; whereas in China it was hounded out of existence and into the underground.
@johnr9763
@johnr9763 2 жыл бұрын
When I was first in China, I remember feeling a positive vibe coming from the Chinese people. I made friends and had some wonderful experiences. When I came back in 2014, I noticed that things seemed to require much more effort. I was told that foreigners were being moved out of China then. If China is an ethnic state, then that explains the plight of the Uighurs and the Tibetans. However, the Manchus seemed to have fewer problems. What I read was that many years ago, even before the 20th century, the Manchus had lost their native language, and that the only noticeable sign was that theyspoke very standard Chinese without any regional slang. Those living nearest to Beijing did not use "Beijinghua," and had no trace of "erhuaying," (putting an r at the end of every other word, as Beijingers do).
2 жыл бұрын
@@johnr9763 Mandarin is Manchurian accent of Chinese
@bskok82
@bskok82 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting timing of this video, considering that another youtube channel I frequently watch called Chinese Cooking Demystified just announced they were leaving China as well. They mainly mentioned the quarantine and difficulties in traveling back to America to visit family so chose to move to Bangkok instead, but I also wondered what wasn't being said as they try very hard to stick entirely to cooking topics and the wife's family all still live in China.
@RealJohnnyDingo
@RealJohnnyDingo 2 жыл бұрын
it's a little suspicious, isn't it... I wish them luck either way. maybe end up in Taiwan if things don't get better?
@oxman7
@oxman7 2 жыл бұрын
Yea and even the shills like Jayoe nation has left and Barrett is leaving.
@Christofinity
@Christofinity 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I got the same vibe. The reason he gave for leaving wasn't the full story. Obviously he couldn't be entirely truthful for obvious reasons.
@davidneufeld26
@davidneufeld26 2 жыл бұрын
I saw that announcement this week and thought there was no way he would even insinuate anything else as his reasons for fear having him or his family exit banned. Wish him and his family luck in getting out.
@Rodrilechan
@Rodrilechan 2 жыл бұрын
Other countries should threat Chinese the same way
@pepperhu2959
@pepperhu2959 2 жыл бұрын
I’m a Chinese living in China. I totally agree with your point. Actually some Chinese already know these Kind of impacts such as injustice and no freedom living in here. But nothing we can do. The government filtered all negative news from public as always. We can’t see what’s really going on in our country our city our community. Which is really crazy. If we as a Chinese saying something bad of our government, we might go to jail. That’s the reason why I m learning foreign language prepare to immigrate to another country.
@mona1711
@mona1711 2 жыл бұрын
Help your country to learn about justice while you are there still.
@thewholeworldisbeautiful
@thewholeworldisbeautiful 2 жыл бұрын
Please be careful.
@mikejones24
@mikejones24 2 жыл бұрын
Stay in your country dont be a coward
@sgperformer
@sgperformer 2 жыл бұрын
Come to the USA, we need good people like you! But, of course you can go whereever you want.
@Vsm426
@Vsm426 2 жыл бұрын
Much luck
@krunkopolis1921
@krunkopolis1921 2 жыл бұрын
Hi guys. Long time viewer, first time commentor. I taught ESL in a smaller city in Hubei (and one year in Wuhan) from 2004 to 2013. Met my (future) wife on an overnight train from Xi'an, had our first child there. I was warmly welcomed into my wife's family, and was eager to experience everything the Chinese culture had to offer. For the first few years things were really great, we were treated like minor celebrities (at least in our town). Lots of requests for private tutoring, having the DJs at the local clubs give us shout outs when we arrived, lots of preferential treatment for sure. The local PSB would throw Christmas Galas for all us foreigners (maybe 50 of us the first few years). Even did a bit of the White Monkey stuff too. But the "mood" definitely began to change, maybe around the Olympics or shortly after. It was subtle at first, hard to put a finger on, but it seemed as time went on I felt less and less welcome. I've returned twice since to visit the in-laws, but its not the same place I travelled to in 2004. I'm glad we left when we did, but it still makes me sad. Keep up the good work and take care!
@Ufthak
@Ufthak 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, the PRC is slowly but surely becoming a typical paranoid, closed-borders marxist-leninist state which has to blame outside forces and foreigners for its own shortcomings to ensure political survival. I hope I am wrong but the writing is there on the wall.
@PerfectSense77
@PerfectSense77 2 жыл бұрын
You had your first child on an overnight train? Quite a story 😯
@GUITARTIME2024
@GUITARTIME2024 2 жыл бұрын
What happened was Xi and a campaign of hostile nationalism.
@simonsong1743
@simonsong1743 2 жыл бұрын
@@GUITARTIME2024 Trump and Joe did something to China beforehand, you started feel bad after rebounding.
@kloneo
@kloneo 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like Germany 1933
@russianguy1341
@russianguy1341 2 жыл бұрын
When the Chinese Embassy in Belgrade was bombed my friends knew I had absolutely nothing to do with it, yet they blamed me and treated my badly for months. These were people I had taken to meals and treated kindly. It only took a day and local news from the government to make them turn on me. The Xenophobia runs deep.
@ms-jl6dl
@ms-jl6dl 2 жыл бұрын
That was your first lesson in human nature. I don't think you've learned much. The western civilisation was/is the most welcoming society ever created. Hope that changes soon.
@russianguy1341
@russianguy1341 2 жыл бұрын
@@ms-jl6dl - How would you know what I've learned?
@andersandersen6295
@andersandersen6295 2 жыл бұрын
@@ms-jl6dl I hope it changes too, but im afraid its already too late, we have been flooded by muslims, and like ghadaffi said " we will conquer you with baby strollers"
@vitocorleone8323
@vitocorleone8323 2 жыл бұрын
@@ms-jl6dl You're right but we have too many liberals. China isn't wrong to push ethno nationalism. The West should basically do the same. All people should.
@alanpartridge5199
@alanpartridge5199 2 жыл бұрын
And we know if the Chinese bombed an American Embassy in a' freak accident' killing the people in there. It would hardly hit the news in America, and America would be fine and unthreatening about it.
@zachcounsellor7331
@zachcounsellor7331 2 жыл бұрын
I've been watching you guys each for about 7 years now. Love your guy's content, so educational, keep it up!
@VegaTakeOver
@VegaTakeOver 2 жыл бұрын
@nfw did you just assume their gender??????????:????????????
@tliew3846
@tliew3846 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, loving fake news about China is in these days.
@whoami66669
@whoami66669 2 жыл бұрын
@@VegaTakeOver what?????????????????????????? thats a serious crime
@ianslade22
@ianslade22 2 жыл бұрын
I first went to China in 2014, I found life in Shanghai phenomenal. Returned for a masters program from 2015-2017, best time of my life. Right around the end of 2017, I felt a very strong, undeniable sea change, a sense that it would be unwise to stay and cement my career there any longer. A random thing happened when my landlord asked me to move out as the owner of the apartment had to move back in. Relieved that I had an official reason I left. Two weeks later was 2018 and the rest is history. 2014-2017 Shanghai was an amazing time.
@tperk
@tperk 2 жыл бұрын
A landlord kicked me out of my place in the Beijing CBD in 2010 claiming he was getting more money renting to other foreigners. Chinese think foreigners are made of money, otherwise how would you make it to China?
@physicsonline8853
@physicsonline8853 2 жыл бұрын
Scary- the banging of pots and pans in Shanghai. Sades of George Orwell's "1984" whose most famous line is " Big brother is Watching You."
@SwedishSinologyNerd
@SwedishSinologyNerd 2 жыл бұрын
Been living in China for over a decade, and untill recently I was dead set on getting a local medical license to practice TCM here, but these last couple of years man.... Long story short, soon as I get my diploma I'm out, and sadly I may never come back. Which breaks my heart in a way because I love this country and its people, it's just the leadership I can't stand.
@adaada4523
@adaada4523 2 жыл бұрын
The United States and Europe are besieging China around the world, a Why do you think China still needs to be kind to you? Respect is mutual, and friendliness is also mutual. You are ridiculous.
@SwedishSinologyNerd
@SwedishSinologyNerd 2 жыл бұрын
@@adaada4523 Greetings new Wumao account, your English is better than the last one! Still surprised your masters allow you on here, don't you know accessing KZbin is a Crime Against the People? =D Also: The CCP rapes and murders its own people, why do you think I need to respect them? You're a hypocrite.
@Klassenfeind
@Klassenfeind 2 жыл бұрын
Shut up ada ada CCP shill
@westmax8491
@westmax8491 2 жыл бұрын
I have lived in Kenya, Zambia and briefly in Tanzania. I was both of these 3 countries at the start of Chinese coming in to Africa to build infrastructure. My observations with the Chinese were they are not thankful or mindful to interact with the africans. They are far much racist to the locals and they treat African laborers like total garbage to the point of frequent fights between Chinese bosses and African workers. These is happening allover Africa. The diplomatic ties does not extend on people to people relations. What I predict is a massive backlash between African civilians and Chinese foreigners in most of Africa.
@jackmariner
@jackmariner 2 жыл бұрын
Han supremacy mixed with censorship and authoritarianism, is a much bigger problem than people think.
@westmax8491
@westmax8491 2 жыл бұрын
@winterbreak who are lazy?
@jackmariner
@jackmariner 2 жыл бұрын
@winterbreak I live in the southern US. Given that most of the work done for hundreds of years was done by black people, I can say pretty certainly that African people as a whole are not lazy lol. Chinese work culture (example: suicide nets on factory windows) is probably why you think so.
@shanemac7185
@shanemac7185 2 жыл бұрын
@@jackmariner Well, they were given the appropriate motivation in those days.... watishhhh.
@billpetersen298
@billpetersen298 2 жыл бұрын
Kick them out, before all the resources, are stripped out.
@Baldcafe
@Baldcafe 2 жыл бұрын
Can't tell you how much I miss that intro tune and miss the adventures. I'm sure you guys feel the same
@TheMixxon2
@TheMixxon2 2 жыл бұрын
Well, If you hear it every week by watching the podcasts, you don't miss it, you love it :D
@MikeInHalifax
@MikeInHalifax 2 жыл бұрын
I don't miss it.
@mitchtherighteous
@mitchtherighteous 2 жыл бұрын
*WHEN I CLOSE MY EYES JUST FOR A MINUTE... I CAN SEE LOADS OF FOREIGNERS GETTING BOOTED OUTON THEIR ASS BY THE CEE CEE PEE, I REMEMBER THE WARNINGS AND ALL THE FOREIGNERS THAT IGNORED THEM...*
@GoatDust
@GoatDust 2 жыл бұрын
They should switch to ADVAsia and go tour Taiwan and the south Asian countries. Maybe Japan.
@matthewitt2276
@matthewitt2276 2 жыл бұрын
Song sucks
@studiokiselbach
@studiokiselbach 2 жыл бұрын
Left Shanghai in 2014 when it was still good. Hopped back to Japan and have watched the slow decline for foreigners of China since then. Japan even with it's crazy work culture, low wages that haven't changed since like 30 yrs ago, it still is quite peaceful, allows for permanent residency, work permits, etc.
@youtubedeletedmyaccountlma2263
@youtubedeletedmyaccountlma2263 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t live in Tokyo and you’re good lel
@tubeyou6514
@tubeyou6514 2 жыл бұрын
Food shortages coming
@asianbeowulf4276
@asianbeowulf4276 2 жыл бұрын
@@youtubedeletedmyaccountlma2263 Most foreigners in Japan live in Tokyo. The costs of living are completely manageable for most people as long as you reside outside of central Tokyo.
@asianbeowulf4276
@asianbeowulf4276 2 жыл бұрын
Crazy work culture: Problematic mostly in specific sectors but certainly exaggerated by foreigners. If you're one of those types who think that the majority of full time employees are working 60-80 hour weeks then you need a reality check. Low wages: Japan has an average per capita income of $40,360. Higher than that of France or the U.K. and within spitting distance of countries such as Canada, Israel, and New Zealand. So going by that data, "low wages" is a matter of perspective and is a useless metric by itself anyways. Cost of living needs to taken into consideration as well and if you stay out the most expensive residential areas and control your spending then that should be more than feasible. Of course, inflation is affecting everyone around the world right now so some have to be extra considerate with their expenses. Btw, what is your source on 30 years of stagnant wages? I'll have to look into this some other time but I wouldn't be surprised if several European nations and North America have had years to decades of their own stagnant wages. And yes, it is quite peaceful here. In fact, that is an understatement considering how Japan is consistently in the top ranks of safest countries in the world. A far cry from America, that's for sure.
@mikenekosama4426
@mikenekosama4426 2 жыл бұрын
@@asianbeowulf4276 As someone who has lived in Japan for more than 30 years, I will say that from my perspective wages have not gone up so much during that time, although some prefectures have raised the minimum wage. However, the cost of living has not increased so much, either. I'm seeing a bit of inflation, but mostly with gasoline. My food and utility expenses have remained relatively stable, although they recently raised the price of one of my favorite snacks-- Umai-bo-- from 10 yen to 12 yen, the first price increase since 1979!
@kayn4388
@kayn4388 2 жыл бұрын
As a former teacher employed in China, I can tell you the money to be made there was amazing. It's changing now because now foreign teachers have to pay tax etc. The days of living the high life in China for foreign teachers is over.
@jackpeipei820730
@jackpeipei820730 2 жыл бұрын
Tax is duty in every country, and language skill is must, but too much language teacher now in China, lower salary is reasonable.
@adaada4523
@adaada4523 2 жыл бұрын
Do you not have to pay taxes in your own country?
@kayn4388
@kayn4388 2 жыл бұрын
@@adaada4523 Yes, but you only FILE taxes in America.. If your income is ONLY from China then you don't OWE/PAY any taxes in America on Chinese income.
@stormygcannon1229
@stormygcannon1229 2 жыл бұрын
Probably the real reason I was denied a visit. I always have been into Civil Rights. Gees this is not good for the average Chinese People suffer.
@CrimsonStrider
@CrimsonStrider 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I noticed the change and I was completely removed from the expat scene and didn't follow any news. It was around when Xi came into power. It started off as nationalism, and very quickly influenced those with an inferiority complex. It was now acceptable to complain and whine about foreigners. That bled into all aspects of life through people in positions of power (teachers, business owners etc.) I guess the easiest way to describe the change was people stopped being friendly (though not hostile). We were a welcomed a guest; a symbol of positive change. Then a marker in the road. Tolerated, but only because it had a use. Next, the nuisance. Patience had started to run out, and you were (still are) expected to behave way better than the locals themselves just to keep your head down. Now we're the enemy. Heh
@artificemdeomnibus9059
@artificemdeomnibus9059 2 жыл бұрын
Can confirm. I'll be out in a few weeks.
@dianapovero7319
@dianapovero7319 2 жыл бұрын
I'm holding good thoughts, congrats.
@aquafishsoup
@aquafishsoup 2 жыл бұрын
Better hurry, or you might be navigating the the boarder of Vietnam to escape.
@chocmilkisgood
@chocmilkisgood 2 жыл бұрын
I left China 2 months ago. Things are incredibly hostile all over the country if you are a foreigner. The root cause is ofc the propaganda but the hostility is felt in your building, at the grocery store, at the gym, subway, etc. It really is a shame and it does make me sad for myself since I genuinely had a great time living in China and ofc the chinese ppl who are stuck in China. It's so crazy to think how radical things became after COVID. And yeah, there was just so much hope for the future. The future now looks bleak in China. I will miss it but nothing I can do to change things Nord/Express suck btw.
@generalawareness101
@generalawareness101 2 жыл бұрын
Most VPNs suck as I watched a video about them done a year or two ago I think. Not gonna get my money. Are you a foreigner or a native born in China? I ask because the people in the USA (the far left) loves to shout about systemic racism in 2022, but they have no damn idea. Chinese, and North Korean, racism are the leaders and Japan is in the top echelon as well. I love the Chinese countryside and just how damn big the country is, but no way can China progress with Mao 2.0 being in power.
@DrTubeman
@DrTubeman 2 жыл бұрын
What's the best VPN you have found or used, is there one you would recommend?
@bidujador
@bidujador 2 жыл бұрын
@@DrTubeman so far all of the highly advertised ones only work well for about a month after your trial period so you have no complaints and you can't get your money back
@dangalanga6941
@dangalanga6941 2 жыл бұрын
Your KZbin profile shows what kind of account this is lol Always click the pic next to someone’s name if you want to know if their comment has weight and truth
@dangalanga6941
@dangalanga6941 2 жыл бұрын
@Tulak Hord no lol pics don’t matter Commenting on and following a channel everyone does while living in China as a foreigner is what I’m talking about 🙄 Wake up to what the CCP is doing to stop these people
@jaasonmorton4058
@jaasonmorton4058 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Guys. I lived in Shenzhen and Guangzhou from 2010 - to 2012. Probably the peak time for a laowai to be in China. Always enjoy your insight and peeling back the layers of the onion.
@cptmalcolmreynolds3623
@cptmalcolmreynolds3623 2 жыл бұрын
I lived in the northeast in Fushun city for 7 years, from 2009-2016, and I loved every second of it. I see your videos and I remember the sights, smells, difference in culture, the fun chaos, and friendly people! I have several foreigner friends that are now moving out, because they lost their English teaching job. So sad. I wanted to go back to just visit, but I won't now. So sad. Best 7 years of my life
@78bollox
@78bollox 2 жыл бұрын
Spent 11 years living in Shanghai. Of the 25 close friends I made, one is left there. I left 3 years ago. Unless you are Chinese you have..no future... In China
@Cau_No
@Cau_No 2 жыл бұрын
If you are Chinese, you also have no future in China …
@PibrochPonder
@PibrochPonder 2 жыл бұрын
A very racist country
@doujinflip
@doujinflip 2 жыл бұрын
Even if you are Chinese you have no future, hence the explosion of applications for the already limited civil service jobs. COVID lockdowns are coming at the worst time as a surge of college graduates enter the workforce right after XJP cracked down on tech firms, real estate, after-school tutoring, and foreigners (tourism) which absorbed a lot of those new hires.
@oveidasinclair982
@oveidasinclair982 2 жыл бұрын
What I been reading is that the Maoist economy is starting decline, foreigners become some what of a liability when the economy starts to tank. Now a lot of foreign investment is going to other countries like Vietnam, India, Indonesia and Malaysia. As for the blame of the Covid virus, it came out of their Wuhan level III bio-weapons lab.
@Mattsta2010
@Mattsta2010 2 жыл бұрын
Occums Razor...of course it did! Why not Hangzhou? Wuzi? Fuzhou? Chongqing?...no Wuhan! What makes that city different?....The Lab! Still the animal vector between bats and humans hasn't been identified. SARS1 has Civet Cats...why the big mystery here? The deeper story is the US paid for it via Danszak "Ballsack"'s research company.
@sb_dunk
@sb_dunk 2 жыл бұрын
.....any evidence for these claims, or does it just sound true?
@mrniceguy7168
@mrniceguy7168 2 жыл бұрын
Foreigners being around for potential unrest is the reason why Tiananmen was such a big deal, because Westerners were around to witness and cover it. So that part makes sense.
@jrocks6969
@jrocks6969 2 жыл бұрын
The great depression was worse in usa
@andrewtaylor940
@andrewtaylor940 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mattsta2010 Actually Laowhy86 here did a fascinating investigative documentary last year, showing receipts, which seems to present a rather compelling case for a specific WuHan lab, and possibly the most likely patient zero. To summarize there is or was a level 3 lab, adjacent to the first hospital to see Covid cases, and a few hundred feet from the infamous wet market. This lab was working with live bats. Outside their rating. And there was a recorded breach back in mid to late 2020 that put several young lab techs in quarantine for a week. A week or two later a female tech came down with a severe respiratory distress and was rushed next door to the hospital. The doctor that treated her was the first doctor to die from it.
@biblehistoryscience3530
@biblehistoryscience3530 2 жыл бұрын
I've seen videos recently about how China is entering a severe energy and food shortage because of Russian's wars. Western workers who were operating the energy operations between Russia and China have left, so many things will grind to a halt with no expertise, no parts, no tech support. That made me wonder whether China is telling the truth about the new lockdowns. Are they really about medicine, or are they planned to conserve supplies?
@TommyT777
@TommyT777 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting 🤔 Sounds possible
@StarlightEater
@StarlightEater 2 жыл бұрын
Also stress test society for total war against Taiwan
@ubuynow
@ubuynow 2 жыл бұрын
I think they are planning on invading Taiwan before 2024. They know Biden is weak and will do nothing but use sanctions. That's why they are storing up grain and other commodities. They are also humbling the high class elite into a more Communistic life since there will be little to no trade for however long (10 - 20 years?). This is the Great Crises of our lifetimes. it's a cycle. but afterwards will be a new golden age.
@smoxesss
@smoxesss 2 жыл бұрын
@@TommyT777 agreed
@aoeu256
@aoeu256 2 жыл бұрын
What if lock downs allow the government to get even with certain people by starving them to death by denying supplies...?
@duangmandarin4835
@duangmandarin4835 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this wake up call, I can totally relate to what you were saying as I lived in Shanghai in 2013 and 2014 As a student. I came back to Beijing in 2017 to work and I felt the atmosphere has already changed. I’m glad my wife and I made it out of China in 2018 already, now raising a family in Germany safely.
@TrancedFury
@TrancedFury 2 жыл бұрын
Really good stuff and also, your guys cut-a-ways for commercials are on point ;)
@SanityUnknown
@SanityUnknown 2 жыл бұрын
I lived in Tianjin from 2015 until late 2020. I can absolutely say firsthand that all of this information is accurate. I had every Intention on calling China my home, I truly loved it with all my heart from the small rural areas to the large cities, but things have changed.... I can't tell you how many times I got turned away from staying at hotels, especially in Beijing, including in Sanlitun with my Chinese girlfriend. 2015-2017ish was the best time of my life in China, I never personally experienced any issues during that time anywhere. I felt extremely welcomed by all locals, including the local police. But sometime after that I began getting yearly checkups at my work checking my Visa, and questioning me leading up to the pandemic, including a year or two beforehand. As well I began getting harassed multiple times a year by the local police in Tianjin. I travelled all over China and experienced things from the most rural areas to areas most foreigners wouldn't ever see or experience unless with a local Chinese, to seeing some of most beautiful mountain ranges including the Shaan'xi (mountains) to the Xi'an terracotta warriors, to Xiamen's old foreigners' headquarters, to the great wall, the forbidden city and to some of the biggest cities, even got to see some Buddha monasteries/temples high up in the mountains, and much more/etc. I never had a single issue until Xi JinPing started stepping up his bullying mentality. The last year or two I lived there began becoming increasingly more uncomfortable. But don't get me wrong China is absolutely a beautiful country and the locals are very kind, loving and welcoming people but brainwashing really takes its toll on the population that watches state ran television and politics to often. I was even in HongKong during the street riots and got to truly experience how much Xi JingPing and the CCPs rule has affected the well-being of most. That being said I hope China gets back on a healthy, loving, welcoming path like most Western countries do to foreigners. I can't wait until the time in which I can return for travelling and feel completely welcomed.
@thefighterboy6681
@thefighterboy6681 2 жыл бұрын
That will never happen again
@aquafishsoup
@aquafishsoup 2 жыл бұрын
@@thefighterboy6681 sadly, Xi says let them eat cake, well in this scenario they don’t even get the cake.
@generalawareness101
@generalawareness101 2 жыл бұрын
There is something I really wonder but have you heard of the New World Order? It is not a conspiracy as the world's elite freely admit it. What I wonder is how will China fit in with that? When we are to no longer have any borders, and become one world how that is diametrically in opposition to how China thinks, and does. I get a sense the world elit (the Klaus Schwab of the WEF types) are going to force China to fail and fail hard soon. Consider it a spanking and Xi will fall replaced by a Klaus Schwab puppet to further the WEF objectives.
@DrTubeman
@DrTubeman 2 жыл бұрын
@@aquafishsoup They don't even get the plate, let alone the cake!
@chowfurnowmeow
@chowfurnowmeow 2 жыл бұрын
Did you take your Chinese Girlfriend/Wife out of China with you?
@russianguy1341
@russianguy1341 2 жыл бұрын
One of my expat friends in China has been locked up for 32 days. He has had 64 C19 tests, all negative. He cannot leave his apartment, lives alone, and they make him test twice per day. It is clear they are waiting for the first false positive to send him packing, he thinks. Since he is foreign-government connected, he is treated a bit differently.
@SanityUnknown
@SanityUnknown 2 жыл бұрын
I'd be surprised if they hadn't already planted or faked one by now if that's the case.
@Monatio79
@Monatio79 2 жыл бұрын
And this is how they are treating someone who is "foreign-government connected" ? As in VIP status ? Damn, makes you wonder how bad it is for those further down the food chain.
@doujinflip
@doujinflip 2 жыл бұрын
Could be a diplomat working at the consulate, which if you know about the Vienna Conventions, multiple embassies have complained to the Chinese government those diplomatic immunities that are legally guaranteed (and are still granted to the Chinese diplomats abroad) are being violated... starting with the PCR tests -- host government officials must not enter the bodies, residences, cars, and offices without permission of the diplomat's ministry. So if those with diplomatic credentials are being violated so readily, yeah imagine how it must be as regular folk who are not publicly aligned with the Party.
@Ufthak
@Ufthak 2 жыл бұрын
@@doujinflip PRC has zero respect for any conventions and laws at all, as everything is done either through discretionary measures (connections and trust) or arbitrary ones (coercion and dictat). It's worse than Soviet Union in a broad sense since the latter one was the product of Western ideology and European great power system and as such it respected treaties and contracts. In People's Republic you don't have that and now it's going into legalist direction which is further exacerbating violations of all sorts. Power is the ultimate arbiter of any conflicts in that environment which necessarily nullifies any treaties it might be part to unless there is a power differential in favor of the counterpart.
@RheaEl
@RheaEl 2 жыл бұрын
One of My friend In beijing do quarantine even.shes negative because shes foriegners and She been To a local stored thats has positive person So they get her rush i just don understand 20 days quarantine and Shes negative Like why they need To do that...
@phillip105pv
@phillip105pv 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to see you guys going strong, missed seeing you in Huizhou when we lived there at the same time. Keep up the great work.
@garnetsome
@garnetsome 2 жыл бұрын
Both your channels are. Thx for getting together for this one! Fascinating and enlightening.
@paulstock4407
@paulstock4407 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely fascinating. Thanks gents for the insight and thoughts. Great stuff!!!
@vteck9
@vteck9 2 жыл бұрын
I'm really glad I got out when I did. I hope my friends ( Foreign and Chinese) are doing alright
@rodiculous9464
@rodiculous9464 2 жыл бұрын
I love yalls videos so much! It's like a window into a whole different world, esp when you have such nice travel footage. It's a shame what happened to China, I hope we can visit someday without fear.
@centarkcentralarkansasweat5137
@centarkcentralarkansasweat5137 2 жыл бұрын
I learn something new each time I watch and listen to these guys. I feel they openly and honestly care about and love China but not it's government. Thanks guys! SUBSCRIBED.
@defenceman7461
@defenceman7461 2 жыл бұрын
Good video guys, thanks from Canada !
@JazzyArtKL
@JazzyArtKL 2 жыл бұрын
I lived in China from 2017 till 2021. Left the country just in time. It's getting worse. These guys speak the truth.
@motokiheights
@motokiheights 2 жыл бұрын
In the US, as a LPR (Lawful Permanent Resident) you have almost all the rights as a citizen except for voting, serving on a jury in some states, and some SSI benefits. Many people live here for decades and never have to get citizenship.
@MitsukiHashiba
@MitsukiHashiba 2 жыл бұрын
That is what the West makes better
@orneryokinawan4529
@orneryokinawan4529 2 жыл бұрын
Jobs. Places of employment that pay well and require background checks do require citizenship or proof you're on the way to getting.
@CN-beziiz
@CN-beziiz 2 жыл бұрын
@@orneryokinawan4529 Only when the job is higher level goverment job or one that is affected by national security laws. Or law enforcement. As a foreigner, you can do a lot and work in well paying jobs without getting citizenshiip or be asked to take up citizenship.
@orneryokinawan4529
@orneryokinawan4529 2 жыл бұрын
@@CN-beziiz Naw.
@cameronbird118
@cameronbird118 2 жыл бұрын
@@orneryokinawan4529 liar
@JamesLaserpimpWalsh
@JamesLaserpimpWalsh 2 жыл бұрын
The first time I watch this channel was to see what life was like in China for the man on the street. Years ago it was the white monkey video I think. I was just curious. Thanks for all the great pieces over the years. Good luck and keep up the good work boys.
@da1anonly000
@da1anonly000 2 жыл бұрын
They found a dead resident in our building, here in SH, last week due to this lockdown. Not sure the exact cause of death but she had been in there for at least few weeks. She hadn’t been down to take PCR tests in a while and they ended up taking her body out in a black van in the middle of the night. More people have died from the policy than from Covid itself. 🤷🏽‍♂️
@ibobeko4309
@ibobeko4309 2 жыл бұрын
It is time to leave, their covid strategy is disaster. When they open the Airports i would leave immediately.
@RheaEl
@RheaEl 2 жыл бұрын
@@ibobeko4309 us too.
@archimedes2261
@archimedes2261 2 жыл бұрын
ADVChina is awesome keep it up guys, very few KZbin channels keep you engaged for every minute of the entire video. Been watching since 2016.
@MohsenTabrizi
@MohsenTabrizi 2 жыл бұрын
Hey guys, Thanks for the good job, as a foreigner who lived there 12 years and left on 2015 I speak. the work permit limit is right at 60! my friend after 40 years leaving in China was forced to marry his employee for stay in China after 60!!!
@jackieroberts6316
@jackieroberts6316 2 жыл бұрын
Both my parents are immigrants to the US. I have always thought how hard it must be to leave the culture you grew up with. But also, how bad it must have been there that you would leave to go someplace new. It must be hard on you and your family. Some family are with you and some are still there.
@andersandersen6295
@andersandersen6295 2 жыл бұрын
Then imagine how hard it is for the people in the country you immigrated to, if you are one of those immigrants that take your contrys politics, culture, and religion to the new country and refuse to embrace its values and culture, and politics.
@germslover6662
@germslover6662 2 жыл бұрын
As an American, I love seeing legal immigrants from all around the world who come to America to become an American, but if the only reason they came to America was for the standard of living, and believe me anyone born in the US can pick them out of a crowd because they stick out, those people need to stay where they came from and allow those who really want all the US has to offer, not just it money. So, if you really want what the US has to offer, and don't believe the lies of the elitists, you're welcome to come and personally I'll welcome you with open arms, but anything else please don't bother. P.S. I would love to see as many people as possible escape Hong Kong as possible and hope the world will open its doors to them.
@aghileshemdani3144
@aghileshemdani3144 2 жыл бұрын
@@andersandersen6295 . What does it mean embrace it culture ?! You mean they lose their culture ?! IS that your démocratie and Freedom you talk about to the World..
@aghileshemdani3144
@aghileshemdani3144 2 жыл бұрын
@@germslover6662 ..hein ?! What do you mean by becoming américain ?! And why it IS problème if ppl Come for Mony. .you know Many ppl from World Come for économic reason ..and there IS no problème in that. If you dont accepte économic migrant ..then all white ppl who are in other countries should leave bcz those white ppl immigrate there ..i For ..business ..in other word économic migrant.
@andersandersen6295
@andersandersen6295 2 жыл бұрын
@@aghileshemdani3144 If you want to keep your stoneage culture then stay in your stoneage culture, dont come and push it on the modern world. im not ready to sacrifice democraty and freedom to make you and your stoneage beliefs happy and let you advocate for less freedom and non democratic rule.
@mytwocents777
@mytwocents777 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah. One peculiar thing we found out today, when we went to the Bank of China to update them with my new passport, is that they said I could not reinstate the bank account because it was originally opened based on a Q2 (family-visit type) visa. Keep in mind the account was opened 12-13 years ago and I've never had any such problem using it over the years, and that I have been on a residence permit -- rather than a visa -- for a couple of years now. They say this regulation went into effect 5 years ago. I updated my ID with them less than a year ago, and there was no issue then either. So, it really makes no sense. It just looks like they are trying to arbitrarily make life for foreigners more difficult. Consider also the major block they placed on foreigners to prevent them from returning to China at the start of the pandemic and during the longest holiday which is when many foreigners go home each year -- even those who already had valid visas and residence permit. That surely caused many foreigners to abandon whatever longer-term pursuits they had in China never to return. The only way I was able to remain here with my family was to obtain a residence permit which did not require me to leave, in contrast to the 10-year family visa I previously had which required me to run across the border to HK every 3 months to maintain the visa.
@rickandrygel913
@rickandrygel913 2 жыл бұрын
As bad as they treat their own people, coupled with their extreme hate for outsiders makes it obvious the world would be a hellscape if they became the sole superpower...
@zettcompact8586
@zettcompact8586 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! I liked your bike travel eye view. You really caught the real China in your video. The one common folks (like majority of us) live in. Thanks a lot for sharing. Your videos are invaluable.
@MustadMarine
@MustadMarine 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent and valuable insight into life in China, thanks!
@PM2024-
@PM2024- 2 жыл бұрын
I lived in China from 2004 to January 2020 🦠 EVERYONE I know who lived there and used to like or love China, no longer does. Seriously. You guys are on point. Can you ever go back for a visit?? 🇨🇳 💺 I specifically remember around 2014 that things in China got wacky. I visited Hangzhou (from Shanghai) and got denied by multiple hotels I had stayed at in previous visits (Home Inn, Motel 168). I’ve got a ton of stories like that. Around 2008 to 2010 there was so much optimism in the air. Disappeared.
@MrJessicaalexandra
@MrJessicaalexandra 2 жыл бұрын
i got locked out in march 2020 after several years living in shanghai and it was a gift from god. lol
@garyoz1821
@garyoz1821 2 жыл бұрын
I hated always being told "Welcome to China!" even though I'd already been living there x amount of years.
@pipiqiqi4010
@pipiqiqi4010 2 жыл бұрын
who knows you are living in China for x amount of years, you didn't write it on your face.
@Legomanfred
@Legomanfred 2 жыл бұрын
Love your videos, always provide a great perspective. Keep up the good work. 👍❤️
@dionoliveira4058
@dionoliveira4058 2 жыл бұрын
Hearing this story time and again I cannot understand how foreigners stayed so long through all these trails and the ostracizing place. I've lived in other countries and its difficult and challenging enough especially with a foreign language, but to go about daily in such a separatist place is untenable.
@waynehewett4017
@waynehewett4017 2 жыл бұрын
China has alot to offer The normal Chinese people are very friendly the culture, traditions that's why people went to China to make a living and raise a family even tho there were hardships But now that is long gone with the zero cov policy but before that things were going down hill fast Chinas heading to be another North Korea
@aoeu256
@aoeu256 2 жыл бұрын
I haven't been to China, but online Chinese people are less ostracizing than say online Japanese, however, Chinese are very unfiltered so you'll see open racism more often. The xenophobia of Japanese seems more difficult to deal with for me.
@waynehewett4017
@waynehewett4017 2 жыл бұрын
@@aoeu256 it seems the Japanese are alot reserved and keep to themselves I have Chinese friends here in Australia they seem to integrate more into society alot easier when they have lived here for a while and realise that the CCP is not God However been brain washed since early child hood it's not easy for them and only seeing with thier own eyes helps how much lies and propaganda the CCP really is It will be the same for my finance ,her 5 kids and her mum as they have never been to Australia so it will be my job to keep them safe I'm sure they will settle in once they have got over the culture shock tho we are pretty easy going here in Australia despite what has been told about Australia It will be interesting to have an instant family with 4 teenage girls and a boy of 7 plus my finance and her mum living under the same roof Plus I have a boy 11 and a girl 22 from a past relationship So it won't be boring
@bgt54rfvcde32wsxzaq1
@bgt54rfvcde32wsxzaq1 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Guys For Keeping Us Informed On What's Really Going On With This Very Important Subject Matter 👍
@unbreakableldorado7723
@unbreakableldorado7723 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, keep it up! Its super important to address this issue
@lukasklister7206
@lukasklister7206 2 жыл бұрын
Concerning the inbetween zone of rural and urban, this has an actual name in urban research, which is called desakota, which is Indonesian for “desa” village and “kota” for city. Thought it might be interesting for you. Props for the videos I’ve been a long time viewer and I have learned a lot from you guys. Thanks a lot for your ever improving content👍🏻
@GandalftheWise
@GandalftheWise 2 жыл бұрын
What about the ginger boss himself Richard from England. Did he have to return home back to London?
@scintillam_dei
@scintillam_dei 2 жыл бұрын
@@GandalftheWise London doesn't exist anymore. You mean Londonistan.
@warrenpuckett4203
@warrenpuckett4203 2 жыл бұрын
Well the horse and cart is green. No combustion induced CO2. I have stated that even here in the US there is a elite intention of bringing the workers back to the 80s. Yep the 1880s. Of course the privileged few will continue on down the road with their Belchfire 8s. The destination with central heating and cooling. A well off peasant will have a horse and cart from which he sell wood for the fireplace. If you can afford to heat, cook and eat. It is the kind of thing I learned from my relatives when I was just a young pup from the Appellations 70 years ago. Mom wakes you up early in the morning hands you the .22 & two bullets and says come back with two squirrels or you won't eat. Only this time around their will NOT be a .22 rifle or bullets.
@aghileshemdani3144
@aghileshemdani3144 2 жыл бұрын
@@scintillam_dei ..if it IS londonistan it IS good then .. ..you hater
@Doggieman1111
@Doggieman1111 2 жыл бұрын
"Exurban" in America
@elanor2123
@elanor2123 2 жыл бұрын
I am a Korean who have been living in China for most of my life. There are quite a lot of Koreans in China, especially concentrated in a few cities like Shanghai, Hongkong, Beijing, TianJin, Qingdao etc, and if u visit international schools in China you'll probably see a lot of Korean students as well. Over the years, China undoubtedly has grown really much. It is true that major cities have developed so much and are much cleaner than before, and now people are more aware of public etiquette. China was a really awesome place to live in during the early&middle stages of 2010. The people were awesome, my parents have made quite a few Chinese friends (Shops, businesses, neighbors, teachers) and everyone, foreigners and Chinese people alike were forming great relationships. Foreign businesses were blooming and English academies were popping up, inviting more foreigners to come to China. And of course the Chinese culture, it was awesome. But now, in my opinion, the relationship between foreigners and Chinese started to crack a bit since 2017, especially for Koreans. This was when THAAD, a defense missile system, has been proposed to be installed in South Korea with the U.S' assistance. China claimed that this was the U.S trying to spy on China and have missile range over their country. This was total bs btw, since the missile system could only be activated when foreign hostile projectiles are in range, and the U.S and China already has spy satellites all over Earth's orbit. Chinese people started boycotting Korean products. Hatred on Koreans, ramped up by the government, could be felt by people. There were news coming out in Korean media that some Korean residents in Beijing and Shanghai got beaten half to death by communist party thugs, and were forced to lose their job. Meanwhile, in China, new apps were created, which was mostly cool but propaganda started to get spread by their government on a much larger scale than ever before. All of these apps were regulated (some indirectly controlled by the government) and required a lot of the user's private information. Try reading Wechat's privacy policies..you'll be surprised. Private businesses, personal stores etc started to disappear, and more and more large companies (many controlled by the government to some extent) started to appear. A few years later, in around 2019, I'd say the overall atmosphere on foreigners have changed.. Propaganda could be easily spotted if u take a look on Chinese social media platforms and news, and even Chinese people who we knew started having biased opinions as well. For example, they became members of the communist party and took a part of their events. They believed they should now buy Chinese products instead of foreign ones if possible in order to support their country and since their product quality is better now (especially ekectronics). They started to take more part of politics as well, and if the government says something, they follow and agree. A whole lot of regulations and government policies were introduced, and nationalism began to appear in a sick way. Now there is this rule among the Chinese, which is to cooperate and agree with all government policies, support and love the country(but really for the CCP), and do not complain but rather congratulate the government's efforts China started to crack down hard on poor people in my opinion. One day, all the beggars in my city disappeared. I hope they are fine. Soon after that, government propaganda of China alleviating poverty and everyone living happily were pumped out. More cctv cameras. More censorship on media. More Chinese trolls fighting with Koreans over small things on the internet. And around a year or two ago, China and Korea had another huge fight, this time over culture. Chinese TV shows and people started claiming that some of the most famous Korean cultures, like Korean attires, food like Kimchi, hats, other inventions, Taekwondo all came from China. Many even claimed it was in fact, China's not Korea's. Korean businesses slowly started to get pushed out of China. English academies started to have Chinese teachers instead. Not so good Chinese international schools nowadays only have a few foreign teachers. Korean barbecue restaurants run by Chinese people bloomed while less people went to restaurants run by Koreans. Nobody really wanted to become close friends anymore. Even kids started to have different opinions. It became insanely hard to get visas and work permits. Honestly, at this point it's hard to get a good life in China now.. More than half of the Koreans in my city (and in other cities too )have left the country over the past 7 years or so. The leftover Koreans could now be only seen concentrated in a single area inside a city. Not only Koreans, but a huge amount of foreigners (English teachers and restaurant chefs)left as well. Right now, there are less than 200 foreign teachers left in my city, and it is a big city. 2 of my teachers left to Shanghai right before the lock down started. I hope they are doing well. They suddenly decided to leave to Shanghai because it is one of the only places left in China with a job demand for foreigners. I know it's true. But if half of the foreigners really want to leave Shanghai like Laowhy&SerpentZA said, then the situation is bad indeed..
@jileelmcdaniels5549
@jileelmcdaniels5549 2 жыл бұрын
Fact is Korea is a better country than China anyway. I've been to both, China would be great without the mad government in Beijing. Until then Korea and Japan are the best countries in east Asia.
@mrtaoroo
@mrtaoroo 2 жыл бұрын
They don't want to leave. Half of them have ALREADY left in the last two years. And of course nobody was going in almost.
@Sarablueunicorn
@Sarablueunicorn 2 жыл бұрын
That's what they do. They get rid of who they don't want. Homeless poor people don't deserve to live so they were probably taken to camps or just killed. Same goes for elderly people. Only the wealthy elite will live long lives in comfort. People now paying social insurance for pension will probably not get it when their age to retire arrives.
@sandrab6489
@sandrab6489 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this post. It has explained a lot of things to me. I was abit confused about the attitude to kpop etc coming from China. Now I realise. Really interesting post.
@wheresmyeyebrow1608
@wheresmyeyebrow1608 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for telling your story bro
@randomgrinn
@randomgrinn 2 жыл бұрын
Darn! I really wanted to go to a country run by an evil dictator who will throw me in jail at any random time for no reason! Such a loss!
@AsbestosMuffins
@AsbestosMuffins 2 жыл бұрын
"They're organizing so called hitting bowl music festivals!" Man I remember going to Hitting Bowl 2016 before 'Rona was a great time
@rickhamilton2093
@rickhamilton2093 2 жыл бұрын
I lived in China from 1998-2008 and it was great, I did feel a change around the start of the Olympics in 2008. What is happening now is very sad. Great work guys.
@hanfucolorful9656
@hanfucolorful9656 2 жыл бұрын
Everybody, Chinese and Foreigners both in China and outside China, is a victim of the fake news, such as from the BBC, CNN, FOC, CBC, to name a few. Keeping spreading 3 million Uyghur genocided, make people hate each other, go to the war so that they can make big money, they funded the BBC, CNN, FOC, CBC...
@Klassenfeind
@Klassenfeind 2 жыл бұрын
Accurate. In 2008 the foundation was laid.
@hooligan2005
@hooligan2005 2 жыл бұрын
I heard John Salley say on Adam Carolla's podcast that the NBA game is different now than it was in his day manily because of the Chinese influence. There used to be more disagreements with officials and rougher play with occasional fights. The Chinese do not want any sort of rebellious behavior displayed. They want authority to be respected absolutely
@Ufthak
@Ufthak 2 жыл бұрын
That's an interesting take-on. Do you have more sources on that subject? In particular the covert, behind-the-scenes influence on decision making in the NBA?
@jesusramos778
@jesusramos778 2 жыл бұрын
as a foreigner in America I can say people here don't know how lucky they are
@LarsAnders54
@LarsAnders54 2 жыл бұрын
I have been in China more or less since 2006, and I have witnessed many of the swings in attitudes which you speak of. Up until recent years, I field quite optimistic about the future here, but it is almost all gone now. Very sad. I also realize one day I might simply have to get out. That is the reality.
@eltoroloco8320
@eltoroloco8320 2 жыл бұрын
It all changed when XJP came to power. Hu Jintao was very good when it came to opening up and I felt the same as you guys (I was there from 2001-2006, 2010-2017), it felt as if China was going to open up and be more and more receptive towards foreigners and foreign concepts. However, that all changed when XJP came to power. It is a shame. I am married to a Chinese woman and she does want to go back eventually and live there (when we are older and the kids are all grown up), but I am very hesitant to even move there in retirement/semi-retirement.
@chowfurnowmeow
@chowfurnowmeow 2 жыл бұрын
Tell your wife in China you hardly get anything in retirement, pension is non-existent, no free/senior health care, no health insurance...etc.
@eltoroloco8320
@eltoroloco8320 2 жыл бұрын
@@chowfurnowmeow We know that. I'd be self-funded.
@hanfucolorful9656
@hanfucolorful9656 2 жыл бұрын
@@chowfurnowmeow Living in China with the US pension, you have more financial power and freedom. 5 times more in a small town.
@hanfucolorful9656
@hanfucolorful9656 2 жыл бұрын
@@eltoroloco8320 She is right, don't believe media these days.
@chowfurnowmeow
@chowfurnowmeow 2 жыл бұрын
@@hanfucolorful9656 the problem is if the CCP wants to strip your piggy bank or worse, lock you up (for ANY reason)...they can at any moment, any time.
@Big_Tex
@Big_Tex 2 жыл бұрын
Wow happy to hear Viv is an American citizen, didn’t know that.
@blackflagnation
@blackflagnation 2 жыл бұрын
This "blame foreigners" thing is so childish, but also very irresponsible and dangerous for the foreigners stuck in China. I have a friend who is French (wife Chinese) with a daughter in primary school locked in their Shanghai apartment. He and his family don't deserve to have a target put on their backs because the CCP dropped the ball.
@glennhumphries9444
@glennhumphries9444 2 жыл бұрын
Have you forgotten the Russian collusion hoax against TRUMP.
@Wonderseeker7
@Wonderseeker7 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been in china for 8 years now and I can attest to everything you said. Just the other day, I was super offended by the actions of a guy at a mall in Guangzhou when he spotted my friend and I (both wearing our face masks) walking just a few steps ahead of him and his girlfriend, so he’s done the usual “foreigner alert, 90° escape plan” and literally began walking by the wall. Now I personally don’t pay attention to this kind of behaviour, since generally speaking, it’s old people who do such things and I wouldn’t confront them out of respect (and understanding of the history of the country). But what surprised me this time is that this guy was in his TWENTIES!! even worse, I tried to be sarcastic about it, so I coughed loudly after he passed me and he immediately insulted me IN ENGLISH😂. I was like oh my, I think it’s about time to leave this country. To those who haven’t been in China, young people are usually the most favourable towards foreigners especially in big cities, and the fact that the propaganda machine has began to lay waste on their minds too, tells me that things will only get worse from here on. Time to pack and leave 🧳✈️👋
@woodsmachinery3670
@woodsmachinery3670 2 жыл бұрын
This thing happens to us Africans every day Here in China
@BlackbirdArtandDesign
@BlackbirdArtandDesign 2 жыл бұрын
What will happen in places like Australia with Chinese who don't assimilate at all, only consume Chinese media and socialise with other Chinese and hold these atttitudes? I met one guy who'd been here for 17 years and didn't speak English. There are enclaves where they can do that but it's pretty hypocritical. I'm betting they won't go home.
@Wonderseeker7
@Wonderseeker7 2 жыл бұрын
@@woodsmachinery3670 My heart goes with you. Indeed, I've seen it happening many times and it got accentuated during the pandemic. I mean I got in arguments with my Chinese in-laws about this on many occasions. Unfortunately, they see themselves in a superior position than non-whites.
@Wonderseeker7
@Wonderseeker7 2 жыл бұрын
@@BlackbirdArtandDesign during my time in the university back in 2012, I remember seeing a large group of Chinese students living together in enclaves, as you said, and never mingling with the locals. Most of made very little progress learning English. It's understandable when you consider that the Chinese have been cut off from the rest of the world for centuries earlier and get to remain so even in our current globalised world (internet censorship). It's the fear of rejection and fear of the unknown I would like to think.
@TheJay37
@TheJay37 2 жыл бұрын
@@woodsmachinery3670 That's your fault as you have decided to stay regardless of how you are treated.
@davidchang2015
@davidchang2015 2 жыл бұрын
this reminds me of the Jews who stayed in Germany right before WW2. The writing was on the wall, and prudent people got out. The ones who ignored the signs of the times got rekt.
@c0ya1
@c0ya1 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I can see that. What's next? Lynchings for English-speaking foreigners? I can't imagine.
@craig8727
@craig8727 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate all the videos, stay safe out there
@stevensonDonnie
@stevensonDonnie 2 жыл бұрын
I lived there for 7 months and left in March. I never knew the ‘Golden Age’ of modern China. I just knew the COVID insane China.
@RheaEl
@RheaEl 2 жыл бұрын
its is really insane.
@lesptitsoiseaux
@lesptitsoiseaux 2 жыл бұрын
My wife is Chinese and we lived there 3 years. They are dead on. This was 2011-2014. They are very xenophobic and this translates, at best, as them pointing out you're a foreigner in a multitude of ways: Wow! you can say a word in Chinese! Here! Have the best table! etc. At first its all fun and games, but then you start to realize you'll never be accepted nor really welcomed. You'll always be pointed at like an extra-terrestrial. You may have some close friends, but you'll never be treated as we treat them here. Chinese is a race, its a skin color. Its racist as hell, in essence.
@starshot6785
@starshot6785 2 жыл бұрын
Have some good memories of China, but so glad I got out when I did! Simply not worth the cost of living there, not worth the shifting political landscape, not worth the struggle. Peace out China!
@JAdams-jx5ek
@JAdams-jx5ek 2 жыл бұрын
1996 & 97 - some small town hotels wouldn't allow foreigners to stay. 2000 - 2002 "You can't stay, but, here's the key, checkout time is noon." 2010 things were starting to get a bit more strict again.
@PibrochPonder
@PibrochPonder 2 жыл бұрын
Very racist country
@mayuri4184
@mayuri4184 2 жыл бұрын
The last time I've been to PRC was on 2017, in Beijing. It was nice, but I wouldn't go back to the PRC anytime soon, even if one were to pay me a billion dollars.
@anthomanjay
@anthomanjay 2 жыл бұрын
Have loved your channel for years now. Starting watching you guys when moving from TW (where I started my expat adventure) to China in 2016. My wife and I went back to TW for new years in 2020, thank god! Weren't able to return to the "mainland". Met your boy Prozzie where we live in Taichung now. Seen your Changhua shots, know it well, that was my first digs in TW. Glad you all are well stateside. Heading there in Aug.
@timtuttle4894
@timtuttle4894 2 жыл бұрын
I am still in China, no longer allowed to work here because I am over 60. I am getting out very soon and will never return here. I agree with most everything you say.
@sebastianprimomija8375
@sebastianprimomija8375 2 жыл бұрын
If you look at the history of China since the Tang Dynasty this really isn't out of the normal in times of great stress China always isolates and when there is peace (in general) opens up. Edit: Now that I think about it, this fact really cements in my head that CCP is nothing more than another Dynasty.
@RealJohnnyDingo
@RealJohnnyDingo 2 жыл бұрын
Future caption: "Emperor Xi expels the foreigners during the CCP dynasty"
@cooldudecs
@cooldudecs 2 жыл бұрын
Same for America..
@Tommykey07
@Tommykey07 2 жыл бұрын
Actually the Tang Dynasty was open to foreigners. Where China really became xenophobic was under the Ming, in response to the Mongol occupation.
@Maelstromme
@Maelstromme 2 жыл бұрын
The CCP is doing that because they’re larpers thinking China is a different breed of human from everyone else, thus must follow a completely linear path in history. It’s mind boggingly arbitrary.
@Tommykey07
@Tommykey07 2 жыл бұрын
Mongols had a similar effect on Russia. Before the Mongol conquest, Kievan Rus and the other Russian principalities were part of European Christendom, but the Mongol occupation turned Russia into a xenophobic Asiatic despotism.
@Whatupitskevin
@Whatupitskevin 2 жыл бұрын
keep up the great content guys
@urath11
@urath11 2 жыл бұрын
I currently live in jiangsu and almost every American, British, Canadian have left or planning to leave after the lockdown ends. Most of the foreigners still in China are Russian or African
@uwanttono4012
@uwanttono4012 2 жыл бұрын
Is your statement "Most of the foreigners still in China are Russian or African" based on fact or is this only YOUR opinion?
@urath11
@urath11 2 жыл бұрын
@@uwanttono4012 fact. I have lived in China for 10 years my job is to hire and train foreigners. China isn’t welcome to foreigners anymore and it’s difficult to travel. In my company and my friends companies there were all Americans, British, Canadians and Australians but now they have mostly left China or soon will.
@uwanttono4012
@uwanttono4012 2 жыл бұрын
@@urath11 You still did not answer the question! All you did was justify your answer. BTW, I lived in China for 15 years and left n 2019 before C19 broke out but I was aware that the atmosphere towards laowai was changing even then.
@urath11
@urath11 2 жыл бұрын
@@uwanttono4012 I said based on fact about the nationality of foreigners in China. My opinion is since 2018 and 2019 it slowly started to change but after COVID started the change became faster that foreigners are less welcome in China
@hopefromtokyo3783
@hopefromtokyo3783 2 жыл бұрын
You both guys are amazing who survived in China quite long time. Your video gave us real feeling what happening in china. It’s terrifying actually.
@wgalloPT
@wgalloPT 2 жыл бұрын
I dont understand why the change in time. You have always made my Friday and its frustrating when you do it earlier in the week....
@DBZ483
@DBZ483 2 жыл бұрын
Never stop what you guys are doing!
@anarki777
@anarki777 2 жыл бұрын
I'm married to a Chinese woman. She's one of the nicest and most pure hearted people I've ever met. However, she isn't well educated. Whatever the state media throws in her direction, she believes. Recently, the propaganda has been getting worse and worse. She's started to really hate Americans and foreigners, because the government is telling her that they're the source of all the country's problems. She's also fully on the side of Russia, and blames America for the entire situation. I try my best to reason with her, and provide some balance to her perspective, but it's difficult. Her mind wasn't given the tools to see past the propaganda she's being exposed to, and that's intentional of course. It's causing some strain in our relationship, obviously.
@Monatio79
@Monatio79 2 жыл бұрын
Very sad. Where do you live now ?
@PibrochPonder
@PibrochPonder 2 жыл бұрын
She sounds like a very dangerous person. That is what most Germany were like in 1939
@anarki777
@anarki777 2 жыл бұрын
@@Monatio79 We still both live in China together.
@Monatio79
@Monatio79 2 жыл бұрын
@@anarki777 I don't know what your long term plans are, but I guess it's only a matter of time before push comes to shove so to speak. As far as not being well educated goes, the same can be said for the vast majority of Chinese in the mainland. And by that, I mean they lack worldly wisdom. Every Chinese is indoctrinated ad nauseum from birth about how great their country is and how evil the Japanese were/are. I recall how many college students had never been outside of their own province and most assumed that western = USA.
@mrtaoroo
@mrtaoroo 2 жыл бұрын
Good luck. One way might be to focus her attention on other things. Some people are more susceptible to propaganda unfortunately.or you introduce her to other foreigners doing great things there.
@PureBadBreath
@PureBadBreath 2 жыл бұрын
Very sad to see that China is reversing so many years of societal progress. The fundamental problem is that their government simply do not trust its citizens.
@bruderschweigen6889
@bruderschweigen6889 2 жыл бұрын
I think the bigger problem is the citizens just take it even seem to welcome it most governments have a distrust of the populace it's a game of power for politicians difference is we hold them responsible for the most part
@nicklostable
@nicklostable Жыл бұрын
I always love the footage you guys play in the background. It looks like it would’ve been a fascinating experience. It’s like another world compared to the developed Western metropolis.
@kovicrisi1726
@kovicrisi1726 2 жыл бұрын
Everytime I watch your guys videos, I always get an ad about learning how to speak chinese. XD
@tileux
@tileux 2 жыл бұрын
This makes me so sad. I love china and have similar experiences to you. I was there in the last half of the aughties and before Xi came to power. Everything you have said, I agree with, except for one point. It DOES make a difference if you are black in China. I met a guy from Kenya in HK and shared a trip with him to Guangzhou. Lovely guy. He was studying medicine in Wuhan and was headed up to Wuhan via Guangzhou, cant remember why, but this was before the bullet trains. His Kenyan wife and son were in Wuhan. During our trip together he told me how he got treated in China and it wasnt nice. In comparison I would wander into small towns and cities in China and locals would - literally - line up for selfies with me (even happened to me on that square outside the Birdsnest in Beijing). I didnt prompt that by the way; people would just come up and ask if if they could take a picture with me. No idea why.
@Monatio79
@Monatio79 2 жыл бұрын
I remember back in the day when I would ride the subway in Guangzhou, on more than one occasion I witnessed the locals giving black Africans dirty looks.
@CormacHeron
@CormacHeron 2 жыл бұрын
You never mentioned about how Christmas and Halloween have been banned. And yet the Chinese championing the success of Chinese New Year celebrations abroad. Imagine if CNY were banned in any country. That would be an outrage and all global media would be all over it. Oh and, as a teacher ,it's normal for us to have to hide our English books. 2 months ago I was intending to start a new job in shanghai this summer, but now I'm leaving with my 2 biracial children to start anew in Ireland in 4 weeks time.
@kaischmidt730
@kaischmidt730 2 жыл бұрын
Especially Liaoning and much of Dongbei - you can drive for hours on end and not find one place that looks inviting enough for you to stop.
@seanbinkley7363
@seanbinkley7363 2 жыл бұрын
Got a good foreign (non-Chinese) friend who lives in China. He's been there for the whole pandemic. For him, he was engaged (now married) to a Chinese woman so he had a reason to stay. The school he works at was raided by the police as part of Xi's crackdown on "foreign textbooks" and now he and his wife are waiting for her visa to his home country to come through so they can escape. I really hope they both get out ASAP in case the CCP decides to close the gates for good and they're stuck there.
@chrispate4512
@chrispate4512 2 жыл бұрын
thanks for the insight guys!
@freechburner4993
@freechburner4993 2 жыл бұрын
If Winston becomes American, he’ll be an African American like Elon Musk 😂, now that’s awesome.
@adamdeste7376
@adamdeste7376 2 жыл бұрын
China has 'normal' citizens who live and work in the US. They use them for espionage activities and technology theft. CPC is fearing what if the "laowais" are also doing the same here in China. CPC infighting has left the leadership in paranoia.
@motokiheights
@motokiheights 2 жыл бұрын
It’s 60. I had gone every summer to do education camps, but now I’m 61 and can’t get the visa anymore. I tried to get the 10 year version when I was 55, but because of my age, I couldn’t get. My colleagues were 20 years younger and got theirs without a problem.
@PibrochPonder
@PibrochPonder 2 жыл бұрын
What a racist country
@chowny1977
@chowny1977 2 жыл бұрын
Thailand is very similar. This might be linked to the Chinese immigrants that moved to Thailand 300 years ago and basically outbred most of the 100% Thais. The main riches families in Thailand are Thai/Chinese as well as businesses.
@davidantonsavage6207
@davidantonsavage6207 2 жыл бұрын
A friend of mine, who was in Beijing for the past 15 plus years, just bailed back to the US a couple of months ago. She said so many foreigners had already left during C-vid.
@hjackson.92
@hjackson.92 2 жыл бұрын
"hitting bowl music festival": I never thought I'd say this, but this is one time where you have to mention the CCP and "copium" in the same sentence.
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