China's One Ocean Problem

[@morning-brew]

Want more Maxinomics? Check out Phil's latest video on his channel: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rauWhHqAjpWLq6s

[@drewmqn]

Great content. No 'yay, China!', no 'boo, China!'. Just context and info.

[@cheezeckez6843]

Yes. The best news and content is unbiased.

[@ravenkk4816]

Another propaganda channel

[@John_Doe448]

​@@ravenkk4816 propaganda is to be extremely one sided. Read again the op's comment

[@augustuspetrov7844]

@@John_Doe448it is propaganda though. The idea that china is in any way food dependent is laughable to anyone with surface knowledge on the subject. China produces enough staple grains and vegetables to support its populace and then some. In fact 50% of all vegetables come from China. Though lots of pork being imported may seem like china being food dependent, the calories provided could be easily replaced with chinas insane domestic grain production. Meat imports are more of a luxury

[@ULTIMA2YD]

Comparing China with Germany is a good comparison. They both have limited ocean access with other countries close by that can easily block trade. Germany learnt from the world wars that you need to keep good relations with powers that can easily block your sea access, China is still yet to learn but it may also be too late.

[@TheAlchemist1089]

Guess that's why they didn't colonize as much as other European powers

[@chillxxx241]

@@TheAlchemist1089China and Russia did colonize Central Asia. China is still composed of over 55 ethnic groups all dominated by one. Russia dominates over 200 ethnic groups.

[@augustuspetrov7844]

Special education tier comment

[@augustuspetrov7844]

@@chillxxx241LOL “Dominated by one”

[@augustuspetrov7844]

@@chillxxx241that’s not what colonization means

[@johnl.7754]

That’s why China has a large strategic reserve of most commodities and is pushing electric vehicles hard (can create electricity from many different sources). Will it be enough don’t know.

[@merdufer]

A lot of the electricity is generated by dams on rivers that originate in Tibet. It's all connected, and it's all strategies.

[@Myanmartiger921]

@@merduferchina is so advanced they make bio weapons from bat meat soup

[@catinbootsnow4267]

​@@Myanmartiger921 Seems that you have tasted it happily.

[@dereumell28]

Man was I stoked to see Bremen being mentioned as someone who is from there! Especially when talking about harbour cities Bremen usually gets forgotten next to Hamburg!

[@tobybartels8426]

At least we know about your town musicians. 😁

[@gene3297]

it's almost like making enemies of everyone around you could pose some challenges for trade 🤷‍♂️

[@merdufer]

When China had friendly neighbors, the US promptly invaded them. Why did you think the Vietnam War happened? China knows the US would never allow it to have friendly neighbors.

[@chillxxx241]

China is at the mercy of all of its neighbors. They are projecting power in order to try to determine outcomes.

[@catinbootsnow4267]

Make friends with carrot in one hand and a big stick in the other hand. You can achieve what you want if you are powerful enough.

[@chillxxx241]

@@catinbootsnow4267 There neighborhood is really dangerous. The year fought Russia, Japan, Vietnam, and India and lost every time.

[@TheBooban]

Even in this video, it shows there are so many ways China can trade that it is impossible to blockade such a large country. It also misses the Laos connection, to Cambodia and Thailand.

[@burtan2000]

Idk how developed China's inland sea route is, but that can be critical. Most Americans don't fully appreciate how fortunate the US has been in geography. Mississippi- Ohio river system allowed America to blow up quickly. Even traveling upriver, barges are 4x more efficient than freight trains.

[@Maxinomics]

100%. The Mississippi river system is arguably the most important piece of the United States. Two ocean access and isolation is hard to put at number two, so I'd say they're tied for first. But the MS gives us an overwhelming amount of food as well as ways to transport it.

[@nfuryboss]

Three Gorges Dam is China's Achilles heel. Also other hundreds of dams. The KMT blew up some dams during WW2 to foil the Imperial Japanese troops. Historically, floods, famines, and drought are the main worries of the past Chinese emperors. It's the same today.

[@shutincharlie3461]

Great report. This informs how i see their current military postures

[@danielbenner7583]

Part of the reason for China’s massive investment in renewable energy is to wean it off oil/gas imports that have to pass through the malacca straight.

[@cliffwoodbury5319]

1:35 - "carring loads equal to entire freight trains.... They carry many, many, many, times the load a freight train can carry."

[@Maxinomics]

Fair

[@cliffwoodbury5319]

@@Maxinomics ?Fair? what does that have to do with this!

[@Maxinomics]

@@cliffwoodbury5319 I was saying fair point, you're right. It certainly can be many times that of a freight train

[@cliffwoodbury5319]

@@Maxinomics but it doesn't have to be a fair point. It is a true point.

[@John_Doe448]

​@@cliffwoodbury5319 a fair point equals a true point. You're arguing just to argue at this point.

[@TheSurfaceStudios]

So fascinating! Looking forward to the next video from Maxinomics and Morning Brew! Love it

[@TheAlchemist1089]

You kinda look like his big brother 😳

[@Hello-o8k]

No , he is moving backward, atleast he know correct Indian map otherwise he definitely a big fail

[@realdreamerschangetheworld7470]

Thank you, Phil

[@aaronscott930]

South Africa is a two ocean nation.

[@leonmeyers7009]

This video was so well-made ❤

[@JS-jh4cy]

Two oceans also gives you the reason, and motivation and long term benefits of building an long hual railroads systems end to end to each oceans with beanch lines

[@Maxinomics]

Great point. The US has the most developed freight rail in the world, a major asset. There is plenty of talk about how passenger rail in the US should be prioritized, but for the US and it's particular geography a world class freight rail provides outsized benefits.

[@perriwinkleiii5361]

This channel is great. I'm becoming so much more invested in economics

[@aluisious]

The desert region of Xinjiang is no barrier to trade. You can build railways through deserts.

[@blue7lvn245]

Chile asking why they get involved in the beef lol

[@SDZ675]

Don't forget China's only access to the sea is boxed in by island chains and peninsulas. Some countries they have mild to friendly relations with like Korea and others like Taiwan and Japan, they have antagonistic attitudes. Then there's their claim to the South China Sea since that's their last access that doesn't pass by Japanese/Taiwan islands, but even that is boxed in by the Philippines and Malaysia.

[@johnsullivan8673]

Outside of Japan and SK, the PLA can steamroll every other nation you listed.

[@smalltime0]

Irony of the Malacca strait problem is that China's dependence on the straits for natural gas is because it didn't want to be too dependent on Australia for energy imports. It also cut Australian coal imports several times (in embargos and hard quotas) which lead Australia to lock Chinese companies from competing in the development of new gas fields. They now can't solve the issue even if they wanted to.

[@briancavanagh7048]

Failed to mentioned the opening of the North West Passage through the Arctic to Europe.

[@Maxinomics]

Good point, that could be a major thing in the future.

[@alvinseah5423]

There are now alternatives. Due to the civil war in Myanmar, China now exercises indirect control of North Myanmar via proxy armies. Also. With the withdrawal of US troops from Afghanistan, China has a clear land route via the Wakhan corridor to Iran and directly to the Persian Gulf. Best joke is, the supposedly bankrupt and sanctioned Taliban managed to find enough money to pay for and build a new road to the China border, and to top it off, named it the 'Silk' Road.

[@stereo-soulsoundsystem5070]

Cool and infortmative! Watches the whole thing!

[@Yajna007]

06:15 Kunming in *Yunnan* province

[@christopherchapman9505]

Good video, thanks… I subscribed

[@spiceygas1]

Huh. I always thought the USA had access to a 3rd ocean (The Arctic) via Alaska. And Canada definitely does.

[@fangchaoran]

If China stop exporting, I cannot imagine how high the inflation will go up.

[@luting3]

You are 100% correct. I will argue Myanmar route will be more important. But US will not like to see that. I am 100% sure US going to find ways to sabotage those routes.

[@johnlacey3857]

Are you surprised?? China is doing everything in its power to sabotage the US.

[@TransportGeekery]

So there's no way China can park their car on harvard yard?

[@cliffwoodbury5319]

Morning Brew - you should do a video on a canal threw Russia... It is a video that came out a couple months ago, and is interesting as heck...

[@ecoideazventures6417]

If China builds new trade routes through friendship, nobody should complain. But if it builds a strategic noose around others like India, then they will not keep quiet!

[@rodneynierman1357]

Amazing how a 30 something can choose what to read and therefore come to any conclusion they want. I lived through the 70s and 80s, I saw a lot of things happen and almost all of it came back to the soaring interest rates and inflation that was going on. I believe the true pay for a job is what does it take to keep an employee and what it costs to replace them. Unions were not created to make jobs they were made to keep others from taking those jobs.

[@vitoanania6042]

Free Tibet

[@John_Doe448]

Free Hawaii

[@everythingisfine9988]

USA Produces Food Fertilizer Oil and gas China Imports Food Fertilizer Oil & gas China situation is brittle

[@Maxinomics]

I wanted to touch even more on the food imports in this video but took it out in editing. The food situation in China is very interesting.

[@John_Doe448]

There are many more countries exporting the same thing. Ain't nothing brittle about that. EDIT: biggest exporter of fertilizer + oil and gas is Russia, china's neighbor and ally

[@thefakewilliam]

Like how China stopped buying soybeans? Oh wait...

[@WorldIsWierd]

someone read a peter zeihan book

[@Maxinomics]

I know the name but have never read his stuff. Smart guy I'm sure, but his positioning (titles, etc,) has come across as too negative, which tends to indicate bias, which pushes me away

[@John_Doe448]

Yeah, the guy that has been projecting china's 'downfall' for the past 20 years

[@poonhound9377]

Indians complaining about the map they claim yet do not actually control. Indian viewers, please do your research besides watching Indian propaganda.

[@radeonportal8002]

OK THEN CHINA CAN"T DO SAME OR IT CAN.

[@odoacredacalcutta5085]

It's great content but I believe China's one ocean problem is a bit of an overstatement, mainly regarding the non friendly relationship with Japan and other nearby states. Relationship might be unfriendly, but barring the seas is something only an open war would cause, which is honestly extremely unlikely (less likely than a civil war in the US, tbh). Also, the risk of the Karakorum highway being cut off due to religious conflict in Pakistan is quite unlikely, mainly because, geopolitically speaking, the biggest threat to Pakistan existence has always been India, against which China is basically a crucial and indispensable ally. In other words, there's no religious or ethnic conflict that might come up in Pakistan that would put the issues with India's border outside of its government agenda, meaning the relationship with China is going to stay friendly even in the case a religious revolution (such as the iranian one in the 80s) would oveturn military power in Pakistan.

[@Maxinomics]

It's the province in Balochistan where the conflict is a problem. Not so much the Karakoram highway as the Gwadar port/infrastructure that's at risk.

[@LunarGlow92]

Wow, this was excellent, this is the exact kind of information i look for. The way I see it, any geopolitical news that is not primarily centered around trade is usually propaganda. Focusing on trade helps cut through the noise. It is rarely ever about ethical, moral or religious differences, almost always trade that is the reason for conflicts. Where ever China tries to develop new trade life lines, shortly after the areas are rife with a civil war, religious fanatics or insurgents that somehow result in china's investments & infrastructure being targeted along side "pro-democratic" NGOs that care deeply about the locals suddenly.

[@Maxinomics]

Follow the money

[@dennisr.levesque2320]

The Nea Tyhi's course-plotter (CEO?Captain?Traffic Cop?Navigator? ) must really like being at sea. Instead of going East, they should have went West. Only Columbus would have thought it would be shorter to go to his neighbor's house by going around the world. But regardless, international waters off the coast of China should be easily accessed despite the unfriendly occupants of the surrounding islands. The real issue, is who's going to control international waters. You didn't address that.

[@selkissun6270]

Who would blue tick south africa like that

[@rjung_ch]

6:26 just to be on the safe side he's packing?

[@Hello-o8k]

Bro , correct the indian map

[@0x2shadow19]

Bro be trying to impress 1.4 Billion Chinese people not on KZbin by using that map😂😂😂😂😂

[@Ijustfindout]

That Gwadar Port Wont Help Cuz India Claims Kasmir And Ladhak And Will Take It

[@nipungupta6237]

India doesn't claim those places they are a part of Indian territory and Indians can travel to those places freely it's China and Pakistan that claim those places as their own territory and pick fights with us for their control

[@_orodrigofernandes]

Why would any country block China trade when the whole world needs the Chinese economy to thrive? China is the second largest economy cause it produces a and buys a lot of stuff. Can you imagine the US economy collapsing all of sudden and no one hurting in the aftermath?

[@happyohcat]

2:46 South China Sea?????? You say like there's not a literal nation directly below China?

[@OIiverStrange]

Hot and smart? Sign me up!

[@okene]

Keep it in your pants lil bro

[@TheAlchemist1089]

​@@okene from horny import jail

[@BB-jf9yr]

Use correct map of India 👉

[@Maxinomics]

For those coming in to comment on the India map... we are not intentionally making a statement on the border disputes between India and China in this video by putting borders where we have them. In the future we'll be more careful to highlight sensitive map areas.

[@PraveenKumar-kj8rq]

Indians report this video and channel multiple times until they use correct Indian map.

[@regina.phalange.]

Pajeet is mad

[@lil----lil]

But the problem is that Winnie Xitler doesn't understand any of this. Much like Poo, NO ONE can tell him what's right or wrong, good or bad, correct or incorrect. He only wants to hear what he wants to hear "we can win this war & we can repel the Americans & her allies in one week" and that will be enough for his invasion of Taiwan. NO ONE TOLD Poo that invading Ukraine would not only be a terrible idea, unwinnable, and suicidal but it was the worst decision ever made for Russia.

[@catinbootsnow4267]

The more Russia fights with Ukraine and Europe, the more Russia depends on China for survival, the less likely Russia switches to the West Camp.

[@Jaxck77]

This is a really stupid line of logic. Historically the greatest maritime powers were all on the Atlantic, having two oceans to deal with is actually a huge *disadvantage*. The US navy has to be significantly oversizes for purpose, since at any given moment it effectively has to project power in two separate directions. This was a problem the US did not solve until WWII, when the British gave the Americans the technology they needed to make better ships. Up till that point the US had been a second rate naval power that was contained by simple treaties. It was only once it had British cutting edge technology that the US navy was even capable of projecting power across either the Pacific or the Atlantic.

[@drewmqn]

Interesting. What shipbuilding tech do you mean specifically?

[@Jaxck77]

@@drewmqn A lot of it was incorporation of British shipbuilding principals into American made ships. The British recognized immediately that the solution to the naval conflict was going to be cheap, mass produced logistical assets and high quality naval assets with an emphasis on destroyers & corvettes. The Liberty Ship for example was a British design & concept. Radios & radar were a main focus for the British, as were the firing computers used in their AA guns. All these things were years ahead of the Americans, technology that the US was just gifted. The British were well aware that a ship without radar was basically useless, and as such the Americans built all their War-era classes with modern accommodation for communication & recon suites a mainstay of American designs to this day. British built engines were also fantastically superior to American ones at the time, the Merlin being incorporated into the US Navy air wings is what allowed for the Marianas Turkey Shoot.

[@Maxinomics]

Maybe--strong maybe--it's a disadvantage if you can't build the right navy for it. But it's a massive advantage if you can. And the US can, and China could.

[@mintheman7]

@@Jaxck77Merlin was a V12 inline engine, used for the P51. US navy used radial engines for Wildcats/Hellcats which gave them the power advantage over Japanese zeros (similar to German FW-190 overpowering Spitfires late in the war). I won’t bother to check what other made up facts you had in your long rant.

[@AmericanBusinessman422]

Hah, the u.s. is not the dominant global power.

[@vitoanania6042]

your maps are wrong; Tibet was free during WW2

[@redbeansg]

The narrator is taking fentanyl?

[@0x2shadow19]

You got the map of China wrong, why does it eat up India so much?

[@poonhound9377]

Because that’s the truth, look at lines of actual control. Indian propaganda only shows the parts the claim but not control.

[@0x2shadow19]

@@sgttomas you do realise that not even the US uses this map

[@0x2shadow19]

Why don't we just say the whole of Germany is China next i bet your boss Friede Springer will be delighted to still keep you there?

[@TheBooban]

@@0x2shadow19whats that matter? Did he say the truth or not? Does China control that land?

[@rudrapratap3501]

Wrong Indian map🤦🏿‍♂️🤦🏿‍♂️

[@mintheman7]

Facts don’t care about your feelings

[@yshivamkumar2135]

Neither yours ​@@mintheman7

[@PraveenKumar-kj8rq]

We Indians should report this

[@rudrapratap3501]

@@mintheman7 sister of???

[@raj8844]

99% of Indian will skipp your video just by looking at India map.. Jai Hind

[@merdufer]

The map shows the area under Chinese control. The borders don't match the Indian claim or the Chinese claim.

[@0x2shadow19]

@@merdufer but you can drive an indian bike in that part and no one will shoot you so who controls it?

[@merdufer]

@@0x2shadow19 Yeah my neighbor walks on my drive way all the time. It's still my drive way.

[@0x2shadow19]

@@merdufer so your neighbour owns your driveway

[@merdufer]

@@0x2shadow19 He doesn't. That's my point. Just because I let him walk on it doesn't mean he has any power over it.

[@RokkuAni]

What with the horrible voice..is this an ai voice!?

[@astdhg3063]

You have used the wrong map of India. Please use the official map issued by the Government of India.

[@CreativeMovieArts]

Whack

[@shashwat4887]

🤦🏻‍♂ They have used the internationally recognised map of the world. Grow up

[@rjung_ch]

what is this discussion about, wrong map? Timestamp it and explain why.

[@mintheman7]

Who cares, nobody uses the map only recognized by India.

[@Luke-dq6gy]

​@@mintheman7hmm and then west asks why we don't side with them

[@JayantKashyap]

Lots of context missing. Not a good video. Focused on being YT friendly. Boo! Sell out.

[@ladhkay]

Thumbs down for wrong Indian map

[@sgttomas]

Brittle egos show weak people. Map seems fine. If you had the power to do something about it you wouldn’t need to complain to strangers to help you in your delusions. Weak people.

[@mintheman7]

Cry more

[@HowdIEvenGetHere]

Additionally, where’s Nepal?