Chinese Blockbuster Game 'Black Myth: Wukong' Ignites Debates in Taiwan | TaiwanPlus News

[@revilogo]

This is a silly debate. The story of Sun Wukong existed before there was a China or a Taiwan. It existed before there was CCP, KMT, DPP or whatever alphabet soup people can come up with. If anything it is a story of the Huaxia people of Zhongyuan that speaks of universal “human”/primate aspirations and nature.

[@gritnltw]

Very well said

[@pavedmaloney1157]

ccp , kmt or dpp , they are all part of CHINA - you are very correct

[@fatmanslim4592]

There was always a china you clown...just not in its modern form. Thats like saying chinese people didnt exist thousands of years ago. The entire yellow river region is where all orients came from, if you wanna go back farther maybe we all came from africa, but all oriental yellow skin asian people came from yellow river region and expanded southward all the way to the philipines and polynesia, hell even native americans can trace some of their dna to eastern orients.

[@AM-ry4px]

Vote this up

[@TheXuism]

Game is game , politics is politics. don't mess up.

[@abdu7095]

What about political strategy game like Europa Universalis 4 or politics board games?

[@zennoix9984]

​​@@abdu7095EU4 is where people indulge in fantasies of alternate countries or history. What's that gotta do with real life politics?

[@muhahahake7158]

People hates everything china and hates makes them stupid

[@dy7296]

90% of twitter always mess this up

[@雪花冰玉-xuehuabingyu]

They keep saying they are TAIWANESE, not CHINESE. And then, when Chinese game Wukong gets popular, then they start to say it's their culture and want to claim credits? It's called CHINESE culture, not TAIWANESE culture. If they want to get credits too, then admit that Taiwanese isn't Taiwanese, there's no Taiwanese, Taiwanese is Chinese and Taiwan is OFFICIALLY part of China. If they do so, yeah, they might get the credits.

[@hippocreation]

People like you are contributing to regional division and hatred. It’s like pouring gasoline into fire when you say there is a fire.

[@zimrilim3382]

exactly👍🏻 Instead of "taiwanese", I always just call them Chinese in Taiwan island.

[@nyizaw8335]

Taiwan is China 😊 China is also Taiwan.

[@雪花冰玉-xuehuabingyu]

@@nyizaw8335 Taiwan is part of China, yes. But China isn't Taiwan. China is China, not Taiwan.

[@YOFFY18asia]

I'm Taiwan

[@GIN.356.A]

The answer is simple. Taiwan is a purely political entity. If you remove politics from Taiwanese IP, what's left is too weak to make it uniquely Taiwanese. Because culturally everything is Chinese. And that's the inconvenient truth.

[@hehe-mq2bk]

I was going to say this

[@christianvaixco196]

👍#TaiwanZHONGGUOprovince👏👏👏 . . .

[@satoshihatake]

Uhmmm Taiwan preserves what the CCP destroyed during the cultural revolution, so if anything, Taiwanese culture is stronger and older while Chinese culture is far weaker (and superficially materialistic). And your point about politics being the only identitifer - will you then also say that about North and South Korea?

[@GIN.356.A]

@@satoshihatake that is false. That's like saying the forbidden palace museum in Taipei is somehow superior to the real forbidden palace, just because it has artifacts from there. Culture is inseparable from the land it was grown from. The geography, the climate, everything inspired the culture to be what it is. How can Taiwan claim it has Chinese culture, when it's people have never even experienced winter as described in chinese poetry? That tired old narrative is nothing more than a political soundbite from the last century. And disappointingly, Taiwanese slobber that shit up because without politics, there's nothing more they can offer. NK SK is completely different issue, we can revisit when NK releases a game that gross $350M in the first week.

[@jeanyashida4383]

@@GIN.356.A Taiwan actully has more to offer than its own politics. Beside Han culture, Taiwan has its own unique indigenous people who history date back millenia. This is the very people who had spread through all the ocean to all the Pacific islands, New Zeland and even to Madagasca. Bring their language and culture to these lands. So it is you who is false to say that Taiwan has nothing besides its politics.

[@btlim4316]

The idea that your nationality comes from the place you were born or the passport that you hold has a very short history. Before world war 2, most Asians can travel to another asian nation WITHOUT ANY PASSPORT OR VISA. Most asian nations do not have a national ID card system. Back in those days, anyone who looks like Chinese, speaks Chinese or adopts the Chinese culture is a Chinese citizen. When my grandpa who had lived in Malaysia for 20+ years was arrested by the British empire for helping the Malaysian Communist insurgency in the 1950s, they threatned to have him deported back to China. In short, he was not considered a Malaysian citizen. It is also because of this reason that many of the older generation does not have any distinction between who is a 中国人 or 华人. To them they are the same thing.

[@TheFivegoodemperors]

There was prejudice before then. Han (of KMT or Communist) even before World War 2 treated regular Manchurian people badly because of Qing rule. You had to say you were Han and pass for Han for them to treat you like you were Chinese. The same goes for Hmong/Miao and other ethnic groups.

[@gritnltw]

Very interesting insights.

[@TheFivegoodemperors]

@@gritnltwin any society a minority of any kind can easily be blamed for the problems of the country. They will blame a religious/ethnic/class/caste group for the problems of the majority and true or not, innocent people that have nothing to do with it suffer. It is the human condition.

[@rudyalfonsus686]

if you wanted political correctness go play dustborn

[@lukeecle117]

SweetBaby Inc : Yeah

[@bobChristianson]

Wukong has already broke sales record on Gaming industry - hitting 20 Million copies sold worldwide

[@zennoix9984]

People are saying the sale is high because most market are from mainland China. I mean, China's population is big.

[@vietanh2101]

I watched people streamed and watched Wukong. I would say what almost everyone cares about is how good the game is, from the gameplay, music, graphic to story. You can see how the developers really love the game and want it to be the best version possible. Everything else like cultural promotion or political ideas, are just secondary. A game may try to include these elements, but the fundamental game must be good enough for people to care about them

[@KaranShah731]

Why come I always know Taiwan through either politics or controversy with China? Do they have a thing of their own?

[@finback2005]

a day not bashing China is a day wasted

[@zennoix9984]

​@@finback2005I guess that principle is the reason why PRC keeps sending planes and boats into ROC ADIZ every day?

[@zimrilim3382]

no, they are Chinese and their culture is part of Chinese culture.

[@kevinlin4895]

There are multiple articles and discourse on why BMW is near impossible for Taiwan to develop. I found the candor of famous Taiwanese influencer 馆长 to be particularly insightful (and entertaining). Yes there is the problem of resources. But the biggest impediment is the current DPP government's dumbfuckery of trying to erase Chinese culture from Taiwan. So you're going to try and remove 4000 years of Chinese culture and replace it with... what exactly? What is Taiwan going to have left culture wise?

[@finback2005]

woke and pride ideologies

[@zennoix9984]

Austronesian culture

[@lujiang2390]

Why can't we just enjoy the game? Why because it's made by chinese people and it is popular? Just like when a chinese swimmer won the Olympics?

[@垃圾谷歌-e9j]

Taiwan is just a colony of US😂

[@bobChristianson]

a hostage of US

[@cuteandfunnyearthlings2863]

so its just a dumping ground for US

[@kassentan1912]

Also with woke communities 😂

[@SYL7Tube]

They're US wannabe!

[@dvd4133]

Taiwan culture is Chinese culture. There is no differentiating factor besides political ideology.

[@Kimmimaro86]

I bet the Taipei government will ban Wukong, too, if the game spreads DPP hate within. So don't double standard and call it freedom.

[@davadh]

Taiwan is free to make their own Wukong game, nothing stopping them

[@donaldwong5608]

It’s just a wonderful, rich in Chinese culture game developed by China ! So great that it is also accepted by the West as a truly great AAA game.. So forget about politics as you are free to chose playing the game or not, why waste time in debating as you are not Indian!

[@nixxu3546]

Kinda ironic when you ask why this game success gaining international recognition, you already know the answer dont you? Comparing a game without any political agenda purely just catering gamers entertainment and having widely target audience with a game with political agenda as easter egg and alienating some of your target audience.

[@TerryBenzie]

The barrier isn't a lack of "Taiwanese stories"; the barrier is a lack of companies who will invest in human capital and trust the process enough to let them work for the six years required to develop such a game.

[@shundi4264]

Hope reunification will happen one day

[@jeanyashida4383]

reunification under what government, democracy or authoritarian?

[@shundi4264]

@@jeanyashida4383 Not American dictatorship for sure.

[@jeanyashida4383]

@@shundi4264 but China authoritarian is not anything better for sure

[@revilogo]

@@jeanyashida4383 How about a government that will do what’s best and what is right by and for its people and their future generations?

[@jeanyashida4383]

@@revilogo Taiwanese already has a government like that, they don't need to unify with authoritarian China

[@supagirusupagiru9932]

Play it or leave it , don’t politicized it .

[@MichaelHarto]

i'm not chinese nationality, but i'm still chinese in ethnicity. i felt sooooo satisfied and proud that at last chinese game could best western games. AT LAST! keep it up chinese devs.

[@TienyeeTien]

It’s Republic of China, not taiwan

[@zennoix9984]

Most green-pan young Taiwanese wanna change their official name to Republic of Taiwan, which will be funny cuz if you shorten it, it will be ROT. Taiwan Republic makes sense though but it looks and sounds boring imo.

[@雪花冰玉-xuehuabingyu]

This is a game. So,​ it only has to decide whether it is a good game or bad game. Any debate or controversy beside this is nonsense and out of topic.

[@SonsOfSparta562]

There is no debate

[@taitoufeiguo]

Huh? Not because Taiwanese government tries to limit its population's exposure to this game by banning it on PS5?

[@nulnoh219]

It's a story about a rebellious monkey fighting against an oppressive celestial government. About how the Celestial government cover up their actions and not care about their pawns I thought the Taiwanese would love the message.

[@shilibrad8705]

I think the answer to this is, Taiwan, time to create your own AAA game :)

[@Capyrass]

The whole marketing gig was to force you to buy an entire new gaming system.

[@BatCountryAdventures]

No, I am stilling rocking my 2080 which is 4 years old. The graphic is not "Cinematic" level but it's still very smooth and looks great.

[@stefanomaurino8201]

Gamers just want to play a good game, not a woke game.

[@lukeecle117]

Democratic Progressive Party : Green Myth: Hollow Out We made 2M APP for eating noodles

[@BETTER_WAY_FORWARD_60]

What they need is 16k TV screen

[@pavedmaloney1157]

return Hawaii and Guam to the people !!!

[@calvinang1]

After Nov election, all these rhetoric from Taiwan will simmer down. 😂

[@FengTheSlayer]

This video feels like a nothing burger. It’s just a fun action RPG video game based on a Chinese novel of Journey To The West

[@christianvaixco196]

👍#TaiwanZHONGGUOprovince👏👏👏

[@freakmoister]

lol frogs have gone cuckoo

[@OkikLmj]

You know Most Mojarity of Taiwanese are Came from and Originally from Mainland China Know as The Republic of China and Founding By Sun Yat sen Leader to Against Qing Dynasty Long Before Chinese Growing Communist Influence from Soviet union in Mainland China, Soo Yaa, Most Mojarity of Taiwanese were originally from Mainland China including the Real indigeous of Taiwan are actually originally from Mainland China and Migranting to Formosa Regions Know as Formosa islands Long Before Formosa Regions Have been Cutting By the ocean and Transform into a Island Just Like Korean peninsula and Japanese Island are Used To be Connected Between Land of Japan and Korean peninsula, and also the Indigeous people are Migrating from Mainland China Through Korean peninsula all that way to the Land of Japan, Soo Yaa, There is NO Such as The Real indigeous people of Taiwan and There is NO Such think as The Real Taiwanese who Created Taiwan state, Only Chinese Who Migranting that Regions and Discovering that Islands From Mainland China and Called that Islands as the Name of Formosa island From Chinese people from the past Long Before the Dutch who Colonize Formosa islands And Replace The Name with Taiwan Islands Just Like the British who Annexed Bao'an county of mainland China and Renamed Xin'an County and Replace the Name again with Hong Kong City by the British Empire similar to Formosa island Have been Change the Name with Taiwan Name By The Dutch Colony in Formosa island, LoL, and also Don't Forget about Historical of Chinese Civil War Between Kuomintang Army and Communist Army across Mainland China and Because Kuomintang Army FAIL to Against Chinese Communist influence in Mainland China, Soo Many Kuomintang Army Including Entire Population of China are Trying to Escape from Mainland China to Formosa island to Avoiding from Communist Threat and Communist influence in Mainland China, and that Why Soo Many Chinese people and Kuomintang Army are Live in Formosa islands to Avoiding from Communist influence in Mainland China and Chiang kai shek the Leader of the Republic of China are still Refusing that Name of Taiwan islands by the Dutch Colony and Renamed Chinese Taipei as the Main Official Name of Formosa islands instead of Taiwan island and Taiwanese Entity, LoL, and that why Soo many Mojarity of Taiwanese are Came from and Originally from Mainland China, Not the Real Ancentor of Taiwanese Who Created Taiwan state and Taiwan islands, LoL ☕ ☕

[@soul-man]

If the game is good, just play it. Don't mix it up with politics, like all these 'comments' sections have become, lame. Enjoy the culture, enjoy the art, and enjoy the technology. Leave all political thinking at the door.

[@finback2005]

its not the game its the people and their worldview that is behind the game. You make a game and mock Xi is just childish and it is a reflection on where Taiwan sees itself in the world. Their games failed before it is even launched.

[@iamsheep]

玻璃心 哈哈哈哈哈

[@WheeledHamster]

Buying 4080s.

[@zennoix9984]

Cries in i7 4050 *gaming laptop*

[@ichi_san]

I learnt many amazing things about ghost stories from a friend in Taiwan that I would not have found out before. I think Taiwan has many cultural stories that people worldwide would enjoy learning a lot from.

[@Uccidiamoilchiarodiluna]

…what the hell are you talking about.

[@jeanyashida4383]

Yeath that's true. And Taiwan does have a lot of good indie games that noone talk about

[@ichi_san]

@@Uccidiamoilchiarodiluna i think it's pretty obvious what i am saying. Taiwanese culture has a lot of unique selling points to make their own aaa game one day. I get that you may enjoy trolling people online, but it would benefit you to at least pay attention to the context of comments before randomly replying.

[@zennoix9984]

I know a few horror games made by Taiwan.

[@user-xv4he4mt4x]

Why do i keep seeing the cameraman getting himself in the reflection? this is the second TW plus news today I see with this happens.

[@woolfel]

I was born in Taipei and immigrated to US as a kid. I don't doubt Taiwanese developer could create a great game, but it requires lots of money. Jensen is from Taiwan and he could easily fund a Taiwanese game company. It would be great to see a game about Taiwanese Gaoshan people that is set in Taiwan.

[@finback2005]

and their will create another easter egg to mock Xi. You think with that mentality what games can have a successful launch?

[@CDang-ms6dc]

Taiwan made the best video games of Chinese culture. Taiwanese franchises like The Legend of Sword and Fairy pretty much eclipsed all other Chinese video games for decades. I don't have doubt in Taiwanese developers' capabilities. Just don't shy away from making products of traditional Chinese culture. Taiwanese products are already unique even with a traditional Chinese setting. Don't limit your creativity to narrow nationalism.

[@jinoz8560]

Superiority complex

[@finback2005]

Peak Taiwan can only effect China. Is that what you are trying to say

[@BatCountryAdventures]

The truth is politics are for old people with money who have different self interests at play. The young people couldn't care less when it comes to computer games, tech and gadgets. I wish those who wish to divide us would just crawl into their holes and never come out.

[@ZephyrPhotography]

how come taiwanese are so cheap and stingy in the US? are they the same in Taiwan?

[@cuteandfunnyearthlings2863]

no, its just US is so expensive and taiwanese in the US are so poor and are joining the rest of the americans sleeping on the streets and in their RV's etc

[@finback2005]

@@cuteandfunnyearthlings2863 Taiwanese is relatively wealthy when compared to Chinese Americans. Still they are comically stingy when dealing with other Chinese . I do not know if they treat other Americans the same or they just treat other Chinese. I am not generalizing. Some are decent people.

[@phantomq2799]

But Taiwan have a semiconductor that CCP will have but failed Taiwan semiconductor is superior than CCP

[@Yangpeiling-de-zhangfu]

No one recognizes Taiwan. Donald Trump does not recognize Taiwan.

[@oskarngo9138]

Just wait 30 more years and see......

[@AlphaCookies]

Just dont play the game, u r not Chinese

[@hitthedeck4115]

Taiwan should make a game about Taiwanese semiconductor industry.

[@tenchichrono]

Keep your Westoid butt out of this

[@Thekowaikaiju]

Don't buy money to Tencent is money to the Pooh.

[@Yangpeiling-de-zhangfu]

@@Thekowaikaiju troll. Tencent does not promote woke and LGTV like Taiwan and the US.

[@Yangpeiling-de-zhangfu]

@@Thekowaikaiju People support China because China does not promote woke, LGTV

[@zuriyel5368]

So is paying taxes as all countries do business with China lol

[@christianvaixco196]

👍#TaiwanZHONGGUOprovince👏👏👏

[@cuteandfunnyearthlings2863]

i buy what i want, so fu

[@aikafuwa7177]

Black myth? ... more like Tencent CCP red myth!!! 8964 Never Forget!!

[@Yangpeiling-de-zhangfu]

@@aikafuwa7177 troll. 8964 is made up by left-wing CNN and BBC

[@tiberianexcalibur]

Shut up!

[@shundi4264]

Get a life and move on

[@christianvaixco196]

. . 👍#TaiwanZHONGGUOprovince👏👏👏

[@hink0027]

cry harder