CHINESE CARS ARE TAKING OVER SOUTH AFRICA & HERES WHY?!

[@siyabongakhumalo7647]

I traded in my Audi a3 for a Chery Tigo 7 pro 🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@BkokiM]

That is the best move and greatest decision ever

[@samntamo9229]

Best decision siya , bmw to haval

[@itumelengmahaole5890]

​@@samntamo9229yoh..😮.. why mfethu?

[@itumelengmahaole5890]

Just pray it doesn't break because they will give you the run around like they do with everyone else. I'll keep you in my prayers 🙏🏾

[@Iam_inevitabIe]

haibo baba,what was your reasoning behind this😳😳😳😳😳😳😳

[@bubuilioness6003]

Please make another video on the pros and cons on these Chinese cars on the job market and entrepreneurship.

[@kaygizmo7059]

Suzuki must thank Muzi Sambo😅

[@TheASMR_Guy]

true that lol our DR

[@BolamasTheLevite]

😂😂😂😂🎉

[@vuyi4real]

They've been wrecking havoc for years now with that Swift

[@Linda-jm2ez]

A long running Mercedes dealership in my town called Stucky Motors recently had to shut its doors down. Luckily they saw this coming early on and adapted into a Chery and Omoda dealership, which is what they exclusively are now

[@ernestmahlangu6218]

We have VW, BMW,Nissan, Toyota and Mercedes Benz plants here in SA. The Chinese have very little plants here in RSA. The government should introduce a tariff to all imported cars, especially those in China. This will force China to build more manufacturing plants in RSA and these plants should be built in rural areas

[@dxxeer8606]

No it shouldn’t The manufacturers must reprimand their dealership for overcharging us , we can’t be paying 1,5m for a car that’s 700k in Europe

[@yolisandzuta2708]

@@ernestmahlangu6218 I agree, we must insist on local production and not settle for trade agreements on importing. Also local assembly is part of production and not the full process. Look VW, Toyota, Mercedes and BMW to mention a few have local production plants as opposed to assembly plants. I personally am not ready to cross the road to the new importer until it invests to a full production plant and a strong parts supply…

[@Jay-rd3hn]

Affordable cars are as good as luxury cars.

[@Jay-rd3hn]

Affordable cars are as good as luxury cars.

[@Jay-rd3hn]

Affordable cars are as good as luxury cars.

[@KURO1.1]

I wish we were contributing to the innovation instead of being consumers🤦🏾‍♂🤦🏾‍♂🤦🏾‍♂.

[@epicproportions1248]

we have a black Goverment. We needed to start production of our own electric cars in 2015. with therest of the world. But own black leaders are beyond useless.

[@dumaziletyali3359]

@KURO1.1 Fully agree with you...

[@cedricmolefe6702]

I heard that it was an agreement with one of the big German brands that South Africa cannot make cars but only assemble. I could be wrong...

[@KURO1.1]

@@cedricmolefe6702 I will do research on that, if true we are doomed

[@sibusisomazibuko7788]

Tnx Zimasa always empowering us ❤❤❤

[@mooshtaffa]

Its a pleasure Sibusiso. dropping another video today about the US election!!

[@Hasha-Mphephu]

From Mercedes to chery

[@dumingwenya7388]

Western arrogance! Price gouging for sure. It started when they introduced R1m valued bakkies… They must learn.

[@TheMsyZa]

Preach!!!

[@KR-jg7gc]

lol the funniest thing is the merc bakkie was based on the Navara 😂

[@dumingwenya7388]

@ bro!! They don’t respect us. It’s the old “we don’t like them but want the money they have” attitude

[@TheHustlersCornerSA]

South Africans will humble you. Ask our political parties

[@facetubelive1]

South African government have no plan in enabling South Africans to build a local brand.

[@smangalekhuwane5572]

Totally agree. We have to build our own.

[@raymondsepheu581]

They signed an agreement with Germany to NEVER make cars but assemble German cars

[@tshiamomogale26]

I believe making a car isn't as easy as we might think especially considering how our country is flooded with corruption I feel like the government will get involved and it won't end well

[@fluid1614]

Do you see how tough competition is? It's no pap and vleis

[@zwelimdlalose1059]

​@@raymondsepheu581 what deal is that

[@njaphs]

Cars prices have grown at a higher rate than salaries. We use to call a corrola amandla ka thisha... now a corrola costs a R500k.... German cars have just become unaffordable for the vast majority. Owning a car is a luxury now.

[@justmote]

It's due to the West's capitalism versus communism by China.

[@GuyOnBikeSA]

Cars are just too expensive and less reliable. The Chinese brands are priced well considering the bells and whistles they offer.

[@NkululekoK-q7h]

Sol phenduka, bells and whistle.

[@marothimahlake7458]

Red flag imo, too much tech although cheap, spare parts is still a question mark and reliability is unproven. Disposables if you ask me as cheap as they may seem.

[@sellotekane7711]

Either The Chinese are demonstrating that Technology is not as expensive as the German cars are making it seem or the Chinese government is subsidising their companies heavily. Either way, consumers are winning.

[@WesliCPT]

I think it's the former.

[@nondumisondhlovu9181]

@@WesliCPT It is actually a combination of both, probably even leaning more heavily on the latter. But iI think it also shows an alternative to the capitalist way of doing business/running an economy

[@trevorashala9424]

It's the later .the government is heavily subsidizing the ev and car industry estimates say for 2022/24 the invested close to 50 billion

[@nlocnil3602]

It's the former. Technology is dirt cheap in China because they basically make everything there. The Technology in modern day cars is not as complex to produce as it is for us to consume. Fancy screens, sensors, camers are not braking bank to make. Most cars already use lots of plastic so that's cheap. They are really showing up the Germans who's luxury quality has already declined anyway

[@KR-jg7gc]

​@@WesliCPT no. it's both. Tech isn't that expensive. Its 2024 not 1994.

[@BobyourUncle]

Same thing happened with German cars in the 60's, Japanese cars in the 70's and Korean cars in the 90's, the usual players get complacent and the new boys knock them out of the market with more features for the same money.... Not to mention the fact that German cars don't have the same longevity or build quality that they used to have so what's the point of paying more if it will only last 10 years anyway?

[@LOVDRV]

Totally agree with you

[@ingajukuda6018]

MBSA plant in East London cut 700 jobs in September and there could be more coming. That shows the shifting landscape. I hope the Chinese build more plants in SA, we need the jobs. Otherwise, the Haval H6 GT and the Jaecoo J7 are probably the most good looking cars I've seen in the market at the moment.

[@abubakrhartley959]

agree we will be giving the jobs to china

[@dumanimaphumulo4540]

✋️I went from a Golf vii GTI to a Haval H6, I needed a bigger car for my growing family but could'nt afford anything from Germany (as nice as they are).

[@AmoMoëti]

Makes sense!

[@jeanmugisha4175]

How you feel now? What is your experience with Haval in terms of reliability?

[@AlternativPerspectiv]

The issue isn't just price - Chinese cars are now built better than german cars. They have more tech, are fresher, cheaper and come with better warranties. In addition to all of that VW is going broke, Audi is VW. They have closed 3 factories for the first time in their history... IN GERMANY! BMW may actually become a Chinese company by 2027. You can blame all their pricing and quality challenges to the tariffs they raised against China out of western jealousy. China is now twisting their arm in return which is why they are now in retreat. If the trend continues VW will close its SA operations by 2026. China FTW!

[@sfjvariety582]

Soo true! Especially BMW becoming Chinese! I was shocked to find out that BMW signed a JV contract called Spotlight Automotive for GWM to produce the next generation MINI and possibly the Next Generation BMW models as well.

[@jabukatshwa]

I have veen driving Haval H1 since 2018.. Still going strong. I took a leap of faith , people tried to discourage me .

[@MosesMatsepane]

If the gearbox fails. Good luck. You’ll fork out the value of your car, and wait a weeks for parts.

[@jabukatshwa]

Hahah.. No need for your luck coz it won't .. Bye

[@thembamadingiza1354]

Just give them another ten years and they'll have 50% market share of the automotive industry.

[@raymondsepheu581]

More like 4 years

[@LOVDRV]

Or more percentage, the Omoda C9 will change the upper end of the luxury models. The GWM Tank is one of the best luxury SUV.

[@bluemotion6229]

3 years

[@Nombulelo_ace]

This a lesson to vw getting all of the expensive features and accessories for less

[@zakhelemaseko5102]

My wife got her VW Polo stolen in May this year. Opted to go for a Haval Jolion as a replacement in June. The offering on the Jolion is crazy, the price was also insane. The Chinese car brands are really giving German brands tough competition.

[@simpleforex1299]

But have you found your polo yet?

[@zakhelemaseko5102]

@simpleforex1299 No, tracking device was removed within minutes of stealing it. Basically disappeared with no trace.

[@simpleforex1299]

@@zakhelemaseko5102 unlucky mate.

[@mphomokhoane5714]

The Chinese vehicles offer luxury at affordable prices. Considering the economic climate we are dealing with, the more affordable option is attractive. Especially, when the Chinese-make vehicles also look good.

[@zukomketi1363]

Traded in my chev bakkie for a GWM P series, I'm in the market to trade in my polo tsi for a tiggo 7 or Jetour. The warranty and service plans on the Chinese cars are value for money. 470k gets you a German hatchback or a 7 seater SUV with all the tech from China

[@LOVDRV]

That P series is one of the best, I review cars, and that bakkie is TOP👌 well it's new brother, the P series P500 sets to upset many rivals.

[@MrRobertzingela]

Oksalayo TOYOTA a Japanese Brand will forever be the best Quality Vehicle Manufacture... Dispite all these hypes...

[@itsdailygaming]

Oksalayo! 😂

[@comrade9374]

Even people used to say that about Nokia and blackberry

[@cellb2619]

oksalayo the Chinese brands are the best at an affordable price.

[@simmpessor5541]

What worries me is that, Chinese car companies do not invest in SA, they bring finished products as conditions are favourable. When things get tough, they will leave as they have nothing to lose. Jobs will be lost and it's going to be bad.

[@irenee800]

I drive a Mercedes and my next car will definitely be Chinese... German vehicles are hideously expensive to purchase, monstrously expensive to maintain, with shoddy reliability and questionable build quality

[@sizwembatha4058]

Thank you bhuti, you did justice as always

[@pulengmoshoeu2608]

recently traded in my 2018 BMW 320d for a chery tiggo 8 pro max executive

[@LOVDRV]

👌👌👌the best 7 seater

[@WellyDliwayo]

Good choice🎉🎉

[@majinsbo]

Think you made a mistake here bmw diesels last forever

[@stevo17101]

Moved from BMW to HEV Tank last month, great value proposition, not as refined (motor) as german brands, but superior warranty and overrall value, obviously long term support is a risk with dealerships that carry the Chinese brands, time will tell

[@Papzishhh1]

Big ups to you and the effort you put into these videos mate! Legacy carmakers need to fix their pricing! R900k for an entry level 3 Series is criminal!

[@MakolaTL]

We all know who was responsible for the swift sales in south africa... Muzi Sambo.

[@pulengnaketsane8863]

😂True

[@BobyourUncle]

My biggest gripe with the Chinese cars is that very few of the better models offer a manual gearbox option. As somebody who absolutely hates automatics with every fibre of my being that's just not good enough! Bring us something that the driving enthusiast can get excited about and they will absolutely dominate the market.

[@Turtleback8024]

The whole world is moving away from manual cars. The sooner you grasp that, the better.

[@MegaNanoT]

Fewer and fewer people want manual cars. “dominate”, 😮No they won’t!

[@BobyourUncle]

@@Turtleback8024 Why should I? Automatics are boring and uninvolving to drive! I actually enjoy the experience of driving and will hang on to my manual as long as I drive a car with petrol engine. When I upgraded my car last year I overlooked 4 or 5 manufacturers for the simple reason that they didn't sell a manual - that's their loss not mine ;)

[@MuzorewaRatshikuni]

Man! I feel you. You my kinda guy. It's manual gear shifting or nothing!

[@MegaNanoT]

@@BobyourUncle There is a small number of you hanging on to the manual idea. Don’t hype yourself like that and expect us to agree. You are not their target market if thats what you want. They will decide to include ya’ll in the future, maybe! Then again it is your problem, i’ll leave you alone. Your next problem is electric cars i presume….

[@blessingmakgate5571]

I recently bought a car, I went second hand german within the SUV sector Tried viewing chineese car's and they are truly amazing, but I personally just couldn't The Second hand Germen was more appealing for me personally!

[@AsandaMbali]

I bought a used VW last year, but I’m unlikely to buy a German car (used or new) next time around. Chinese OEMs have improved in tech and build quality over the years, so that coupled with competitive pricing is a recipe for success. Legacy OEMs have become complacent. They’re facing a lot of pressure globally. I hope the consumer comes out on top!

[@SwayNote]

Good! - why would i spend over a mil for a hatch?

[@thedigitalawakening887]

It doesn’t make sense honestly you can’t even put in a 25kg maize meal for your mama on that thing 🤣

[@tshiamomogale26]

Japanese and Korean cars have shown how they're reliable. I believe the German automaker have gotten comfortable with charging crazy amounts for the bare minimum and options Personally, I believe completion is good. It opens up space for innovation and new ideas. The usual legacy brands have been too comfortable with giving our Market the bare minimum. I believe brand loyalty is so absurd, besides being budget-friendly. Asian car makers are designing better cars It's like someone going and buying a brand-new Renault Kwid. Like that car is a joke compared to what you can get on the second-hand market for that price and still be left with change

[@njongomato]

Very informative content Zimasa - thank you!

[@maximeteevee2760]

Over the years these Chinese brands will eventually be pricy as well and the market will even itself out again, remember how cheap Hyundai was when it just came out, or Toyota for that matter, Havar has just started to raise the price, Tigo will follow soon...but i think, just like mobile fones, most cars on the market will be Chinese in future

[@PatrickDinyake-ki7ci]

Isn't it time we get them to open factories here because VW and Benz are losing and closing shop and therefore leading to job losses?

[@jikajive]

Chinese cars are uninspiring, they are unashamedly generic knock-offs of the exciting brands we love so much. They do however have a place in the market for motorist who just want a ride that moves them from A-Z in relative style, but definitely not for the car lover.

[@thabokhalo9497]

It used to be the case but they've established their own identity here and there. Watch this space. Germans are now doing the following by including much more tech now. 😅😅

[@jikajive]

@@thabokhalo9497a Mom car is still an identity, just not my identity. The day that a Chinese car sets the design trend like a mini or 3-series did, then I can take another look, but until then, they just a generic sea of big front grills on the road. A trend ofcoarse, set by Audi.

[@mpiloz8016]

an important factor that must not be forgotten is that the Chinese government subsidizes their car manufacturers for the export market which is why they can sell such feature rich products at highly competitive prices, I imagine for the purpose of pushing other manufacturers out of as many markets as they can, who knows what the prices will look like once the government cash injection expires.

[@justinarendze4609]

Had Golf7 from new, needed a change, could not afford a second hand VW family car, bought a Tiggo7

[@OGLechaba]

Haven’t really warmed up to the Chinese brands yet, I find myself preferring Japanese and South Korean brands over Chinese car makers

[@generativestudio]

Why can't we manufacture our own cars in this country, why are we always so excited to be given products while not understanding how to create them?

[@simonboyane1140]

We have universities ranked higher in Africa producing scientists and engineers every year, yet we can't do crap our own. It's just embarassing to say the least.

[@MASTER_GD220]

It's probably not a matter of skill but money. Also, cars need different components which need money as well. It's probably cheaper overall at the moment to import and sell or to buy part and assemble them here and sell

[@generativestudio]

@@MASTER_GD220 But South Africa has a lot of money, it's just being mismanaged. But is it always going to be the case that we will never enrich our economy simply because the decision it does not make profit? is it the case that we will never risk money to build wealth in South Africa? we will always be importing products and exporting resources (other people will learn how to build it, we'll just use it, because it's cheaper)?

[@ElLebza]

This is a very interesting question and researching it will upset you. There are agreements in place that will not allow that to happen. I'm obviously not explaining it properly nor do I think I'm qualified to but I've researched it and it was interesting.

[@mohaungobeni1009]

​@@simonboyane1140your politicians signed contracts with these Europian brands, so even if you design a car brand they wont even consider to produce it.

[@presleysathekge3064]

Thanks for sharing the insightful data

[@Philasande_Shange]

Haval is GWM (Great Wall Motors), one brand.

[@mondesomzana6148]

One company; two brans

[@Philasande_Shange]

@ @ yes but then what about the Haval H6 and the GWM P6? Both these cars are actually GWM Haval XX. It’s written even on the cars and the logos are confusing too, I think them themselves are also confused. The P6 has a Haval logo while the new Havals are written GWM on the back. Nevertheless, I brought it up because I thought the author of the video wasn’t aware of this, as he mentioned them separately numerous times, along side the Chery.

[@mondesomzana6148]

@@Philasande_Shange He mentions them as brands so it's okay. The sticking both brands on the same car varies by country. Now South Africa has become one of the countries where they do this. No clue what the reasoning is

[@thedigitalawakening887]

@@Philasande_ShangeChinese suck when it comes to branding. One thing the west excels in.

[@i-imoto]

traded in polo vivo 1.4 for haval jolion 1.5t 7 dct it was 360k in '22, comfortably at 30000km no issues. the fuel issue isnt so bad because i had gotten the vw t-roc auto as a courtesy vehicle when i was involved in an accident and i spent more fuel in the month i had the vw than the haval. 1000 a week on the t-roc and 2 full tanks on the haval which is around 2.7k a month.

[@tonicba4748]

Great content and insight 🙏🏽

[@NPC6061]

Dankie Bhuti

[@nzamemtshawulana2756]

It’s also interesting to note how the VW Polo Vivo was for years thee entry level car and now it has gotten more and more expensive.

[@felixsebata1820]

When a Honda CR-V comes equipped with a 1.5L engine and CVT transmission but carries a R1-million price tag, is it any surprise when nobody buys it? The Chinese are capitalizing on this, and it will be very difficult for traditional automotive brands to claw back lost market share

[@mthiyanesonomo]

Makes sense with the Standard Bank financing. Their biggest shareholder is ICBC. So this benefits in more ways than 1.

[@SihleTshangela]

@MrHowMuch 3:00 😂🙌

[@felixsebata1820]

I thought maybe I'm seeing things 😂

[@CaliCaldwell_]

6:04 Not suprised that its Standard Bank. Industrial and Commercial Bank of China is their largest shareholder so they would want proiritise financing these cars and giving consumers the best deal compared to other banks

[@BkokiM]

Would you please advise what's their contribution to GDP

[@saopinion4866]

Its seriously not just that these German cars are expensive, its mainly because Since Thabo Mbeki left office the South African economy has not grown but shrank. The GDP in 2008 was $460 billion dollars, electricity price R0,42 kWh, Petrol R7,40/L and Rand/Dollar Exchange $/R7,80. Under Zuma and Ramaphosa GDP $368 Billion & $386 Billion respectively, electricity price R0,80 kWh and R2.00 kWh respectively, Petrol R14,00 and R23,00 respectively, Rand/Dollar Exchange R14,40 and R18,40 respectively. You see we have gotten poorer and our buying power has been greatly reduced to a point salary doesn’t beat inflation. Given the choice most South African would choose German cars thus affecting Chinese sales, now we are finding even the Chinese cars are getting expensive due to import duty tax now we cant even afford New Chinese cars. Soon we will be going to work on horses

[@MBENSE]

From Audi to GWM... very happy with the switch

[@kudzaidube9529]

Chinese cars are here to stay. Even though their quality might not be the very best, they come in at a very attractive price. I think very soon, these cars will be high on the hijack lists as more Chinese cars drive on the roads and when accidents happen and part availability is tight, the hijacked cars black market will boom

[@Thelandlord637]

I literally saw the BYD Dolphin at BYD dealership in Foreshore Cape Town

[@Cekeshe]

Those Cherys are looking too good on the road.

[@kurumanTV]

I am driving Haval GT. the closest car to it at Germany is the X1 which is over a Rm with you put the features that came standard with my GT

[@lonwabomfuntana6108]

are they allergic to producing hatchbacks and sedans?

[@kimberlysilenge734]

German for weeknd nd japan week days

[@Chucky123-s7u]

Love yr content of your podcast.

[@MosesMatsepane]

I have heard horror shows regarding aftermarket and warranty on these Chinese vehicles. Read the terms and conditions. The car warranty may be 5-years, while excluding critical parts that will most likely fail. It’s better to buy a reputable brand second-hand, than to gamble with a brand new Chinese car with all the bells and whistles.

[@000T00b]

As a 50+ year old man, here’s my car ownership history: Opel Kadett Cub, VW Golf GTI (mk3), Opel Astra Euro 200iSE, VW Golf GTI (mk5), BMW 320d, Audi A3 Sportback 1.8T, Mazda 2, Mazda CX-5. My next car will be Chinese (Tank 300). After being price gouged for far too long by the Germans, I’m never going back to that particular hamster wheel.

[@kaktusflieks]

Yup, heavily subsidised Chinese goods from non-profitable factories will play a role in of SA's future. The question I have as former Changan owner and still a Chinese escooter rider, how long do we have until the subsidies stop, as all subsidies always do? Let's hope China's sputtering economy will last long enough --- say 3 to 5 more years --- to allow us Chinese risk takers to offload into the used market before more Chinese auto factories close (check out SAIC) and parts cannot be found.

[@simphiwekahla8944]

I like what China is doing but they must also be careful. I feel like cars in SA are just super expensive. Imagine buying a car for R700 000 🤔 or R350 000. It's just ridiculous

[@typicalroyalty21]

ChatGPT is Nice neh😅

[@comrade9374]

I love my P-series bakkie

[@daddy-jay8346]

7 years warranty is a game changer, nobody want to walk away from that

[@theyoungguy1147]

The reason I wouldn’t swap my german sedan for Chinese Haval 1st good looks and 2nd quality, you can feel the “power “ of my German sedan the minute you hit the “accelerator “

[@stukkend]

Competition is healthy and drives innovation and affordability, but it is not pure competition if one or more of your competitors are getting a leg up from government. That is an unfair practice and robs the consumer from real competitive markets

[@southafricaismyhome814]

Brics payments system is on fire 🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🍾🍾🍾🎺🎺🎺

[@m2ngwa89]

Some of the vehicles mentioned are already launched. P500, Tank 500, BYD Dolphin.

[@mpiloz8016]

lol, I last bought a car 7 years ago, and it was 2nd hand(and already 8 years old at the time). being kinda homeless at the moment since getting divorced recently, I'm not gonna be in the market for a car until I get a house, speaking of used cars, I'm upset Honda didn't bring the latest rendition of the accord into ZA, I was looking forward to getting a used 10 speed auto with 2.0T K engine.

[@ortforshort7652]

It's my understanding that China never intended to compete abroad in the gas automobile market, just the EV market. However, demand internally collapsed for gas vehicles. The Chinese government already subsidized the auto industry quite heavily internally, as the local population could barely afford the reduced prices, and have continued to do so for the foreign market. That $20K per vehicle subsidy has given the Chinese cars a huge price advantage over other cars particularly when tariffs are low or are equivalent for competing countries.

[@sonwabo1000]

I’m a BMW guy love the German cars & yes they are stupidly expensive but are reliable quality brand, I prefer Japan then the Chinese cars 😏I mean they’ve been in the game for years & reliable

[@uysvisser5328]

Had a VW. Got a Chery Tiggo 7pro. 🎉

[@yolisandzuta2708]

Question is why are we not insisting on Haval, GWM or the like producing locally?

[@nicholas1462]

BYD Seal is here as well as GWM Tank, the German car industry is falling all over the world, VW is considering closing factory in Germany. Without the Russian Oil ^ Gas, German auto industry is forced to hike their prices

[@siphelelemakon7709]

They are also in faraway places to service them. We asked them to come closer

[@daverams8161]

Moved from Hilux to JAC

[@Kholmi.28]

I actually recetnly watched a video explaining very similar trends in Europe as well. The Chinese are taking over. Mercedes Benz has shutdown it's first fatory in Germany due to lack of sales. Another factor is eco-friendly development of cars. Chinese cars seem to be more effective and effective in their green car development. Akho mntu onemali. Kubi!😭😂

[@lehlagaremogadime7494]

This thing that German manufactures will always take an opportunity to just put anything as optional is nonsense. The chinese cars have features that you can't even get as optional on the Germans for free. Unfortunately this comes with consequences as we see job losses on the assembly factories, let's hope chinese will soon have those locally without having too much effect on the pricing.

[@pheellomasia3615]

Gvm and haval are vehicle version of shein and temu

[@thabokhalo9497]

Lol. You've obviously never driven any. Do you have a a car... 😂😂Jokes

[@MrDebour]

Do you have a car?

[@comrade9374]

Still making vw to close shops

[@MichaelVumile-jb3lb]

China has no plants in SA. That is why I will stick to germany.

[@lithamoshoeshoe4641]

I just think they're becoming more prominent because they're actually releasing the cars here whereas before they only sold a few models in the African continent.

[@MT-04]

I like Chery brand wholeheartedly, I can't wait to get a job. But this Ramaphosa economy😭😭

[@nlocnil3602]

There is higher value proposition outside German brands to be honest. Manufacturers like Hyundai offer 7 year warranties and 150km service offerings. That's really high return on investment. These are the types in things important to consumers. Germans will continue to decline. priced themselves into a corner

[@itwasag.ijanejoke386]

Its understandable a decent well specced car from non Chinese brands are coming in at 1 million rands +

[@correntkatcorrentinfo6644]

Most of these look ugly as hell. The Haval and Jaecoo are the good looking ones, and maybe the Bakkes, the rest; aaaah.

[@dxxeer8606]

The German cars are overpriced And dealerships are charging us twice as much as the price in Europe

[@str8xrippin]

Im 23 abd used to drive a VW Golf, now I drive a Ford ST

[@nokocambelngoasheng9279]

I had 2 cars, GWM Steed which is now 13 years and a VW Polo TSI, guess what the polo gave countless and expensive problems, the customer service was horrible as VW couldnt Fix the issues and more issues kept coming. It died and the GWM still stands strong. Very cheap to maintain and more reliable than the VW. I had to sell the polo so. Chinese have really improved and arr quality.

[@Eugeneob1]

Haval with all the bells and whistles = R450k guesstimate……. The bells and whistles in the Haval, put that into BMW, MERC, AUDI = R900k to R1.2 million 🤷🏽‍♂️ not a Chinese car fan, but I’m more of a fan of my bank account 😊

[@stylmandurbanite5098]

It's sad that in a country like South Africa that proclaims to be "so educated", we're always consumers. We always have someone to make decisions for us. Why have we not produced a car if we're "so educated"? Anyway, this deal was signed back in 2011 aiming that by 2021 such would happen, I guess there were delays hence the now influx of these cars. I am not against any trades but as an educated country, when are we gonna produce some things? Ow, I've forgotten that the whole country of "so educated" people has dilapidated, unemployment skyrocketed and so-called educated people with their qualifications are drowning in alcohol . . . What a shame!!!😟😟😟

[@-N0V4-]

I'll buy a german car the day they give me an SUV for R6k a month like Haval.

[@thelumusajamesmthethwa2983]

Lol, I recently discovered that this is a very sensitive topic. 😅😂

[@mooshtaffa]

It’s veeeeeery sensitive. People aren’t happy