Chinese Diesel Heater burning Black Diesel - Waste Motor Oil

[@trdscfjc]

So far this is the best video I've seen on KZbin on how to run these heaters on waste oil. #1, start and end with diesel. #2, thin out the used filtered oil with gasoline or E85 in a 1:3 ratio. #3 never run the machine on low, setting 7 provides a lean burn and cleaner combustion.....consider another video in this series focusing on these points.

[@cliffelmore5834]

You have mentioned that you modified your burn chamber. In another KZbin comment. I would be interested in seeing a breakdown video of the modifications. Awesome to hear this is working out for you.

[@onefastgmc]

Great video, I'm also an Iowan, born and raised here! I've been eye balling these little heaters to replace or compliment my little propane heater during the winter

[@1teddy1979]

There you go someone that finally understands if you want to burn a mix of waste oil you MUST run these things wide open

[@DirectCurrent4u]

Great Job on your setup! Look real clean. I think 70/30 is the best ratio that I've seen so far that works well. The Hotter the bern the better for sure! Keep up the good work!👍

[@normangibson9907]

Hello from Ireland. I've been running one of these heaters for 2 years in a mobile home practically everyday but on kerosene. No problems with burning kerosene and it's much cheaper than diesel here in Ireland

[@lapinfurax615]

EXCELLENT ! this kind of heater is also the fiture for houses and appartments !!!

[@Cire3PC]

Mine shows up Tuesday. I can agree, diesel startup makes more sense. May even finish on high diesel to burn off any carbon. Maybe a little fuel system cleaner as well. Can’t wait to start testing

[@rickloughrey9669]

Hell, saving this just to study yr filtration set-up. Absolute hillbilly brilliant

[@CUTTERUPROB]

I have a friend of mine running the same heater on it . seems to work great

[@BRWfilms]

What ratio and mix is he running?

[@ralpha4350]

30% e85 70% filtered oil

[@deancobb8939]

How long can you run on this before you have to clean unit

[@Badboy7357]

Hey, I am in Iowa! I have been interested in an 8KW heater to heat or de-chill my garage...maybe one or two for the house for emergencies. Fell down the rabbit hole of used cooking oil and used motor oils as fuel. That's how I found this video. My researching shows these things are pretty slick, other than for not liking complete power failure when running due to the heater being so hot. Nice to know I am not the only one around here looking at these things. Subbed.

[@schum009]

Ten years ago, I ran an old school bus on black diesel. I thought it was less than 30% gasoline, but I might be remembering wrong. I used one of those centrifugal filters that they sell for veggie oil and it was unnecessary. And then through a semi fuel filter with a water separator. The exhaust stunk like burning oil, but it worked.

[@reevesfamily5149]

Hey mate is it possible to do another update video using black diesel, how is your machine running

[@williampierce5615]

I am currently doing something similar with a 3 hp diesel. Starting with diesel. Then running on waste oil. Then finishing with diesel.

[@internetttroll1908]

Best video so far about em. keep the videos coming!

[@richarddrempel8912]

Thanks for sharing your video. I just bought a diesel heater and I didn’t know they could be used to burn waste oil. I’m pretty excited about that as we live off grid here in northern Alberta Canada and in winter we need the extra heat. I have access to all kinds of waste oils and I don’t know much yet about these heaters. Im looking forward to watching your videos. Thanks, Dan.

[@Utubegofukurself]

Be careful. LOTS of test videos that conclude waste oil burning in these has negative results over time

[@simonallan9941]

As long as you get to know off by heart how to strip down the burner for the cleaning of carbon buildup every few weeks, you can run them on any oil, filtering the oil with never remove all carbon and no matter how lean you burn it, carbon will always stick to the cooler metal, as is going to happen when heating air no matter what.

[@andyhermiz3075]

Could please show us a vedio mixing 80% oil with 20% petrol to see if that would work and not have ang build up thank you and love your vedios

[@watercarepro9610]

Excellent video, thank you sir.

[@simonallan9941]

I've burned about 15 liters of my synthetic waste oil in my diesel heater, and once it gets warmed up it runs very clean and hot, but I do have to give it a clean out of carbon buildup around the precombustion chamber and everywhere else, not a problem though, it would still always keep going through the night and still start, even when burning unevenly from blockage.

[@yachtwork]

Just the info I was looking for. Thank you for making that informative video.

[@gerhardpet1]

Do you have a link to the small pump you have mounted on the table to pump to the filters to your holding tank?

[@rosscolorenzo]

Well done, good job 👍

[@shanehogarth6373]

Nice video thanks. A question though, how long have you been running it on the waste oil? I had a similar set up but used a 12v 3 port valve to switch between fuel tanks, starting and ending the sessions on diesel. All was good for a couple of weeks and some 25 litres of black diesel until it sorted up real bad and there is a ring of mesh around the burner jets (not the one around the glow plug, this one is at the end of the burn chamber and you need to break into it to see it) and this was just beyond cleaning really. Totally caked up and I ended up getting a second burn chamber. Initially worked great though. 👍 subscribed and liked.

[@mobiusx8117]

I asked that question and he mentioned around 50 gallons. At 0.5Liter/hour consumption (high setting) that is almost 16 days of use on 70/30 WMO/E85. You might also want to read the comments from this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oobJkKeZgdaLaZY

[@ronstarner1103]

Have you done any tare downs or inspection on burn chamber? Have any idea with igniter screens?

[@stevenpotter9555]

There's a comment you made in another video mentioning a modification to the burn chamber. If it was a necessity could you you do a video showing this modification please?

[@ILKnierim]

Hey yo newest member here thanks for all the info looking forward to the next video✌

[@swedaksouthsweden]

Hello from Sweden Love your setup. Wonder about the hosefittings. What size is the yellow hose? looks like you reduse the pumpfitting from 1" to 1/2"? Do you have any problems that the oilmix from the bucket is to thick to go true a 5 micron filter??

[@juice2620]

Dude this was a great video.

[@donkirk5433]

We tried waste oil and caused problems in time so we stick with Heating oil and happy days.

[@ovenman991]

great video would you think the 70-30 mix would work in a fuel oil furnace ?

[@keithwithnobs]

I like your setup. Has it choked up yet? Today how much time you got on it without problems?I mean have you had to clean it yet?

[@trdscfjc]

Have you looked into the Frantz toilet paper filtration system?

[@wiredforstereo]

This is what I was going to try. Going to be quite a bit more expensive than these cheap water filters for the filter itself, but the filtering efficiency will be unmatched.

[@danya822]

The pump pulling fuel from your waste oil/ethanol mix tank (and red diesel when you start it) is the stock pulse pump that came with the unit?

[@johnmiley458]

Thanks for your info.

[@leokimvideo]

Iowa, best known for home of Slipknot

[@zacharymorris9917]

Alpine mode reduces fuel input as well. Contradictory to say don't and then say do.

[@gardenlifelove9815]

When I mix gasoline into black diesel I buy Non ethanol super unleaded as I burns cleaner and won't destroy the tubing.

[@Cire3PC]

Ok, as it's one year ago... What has your burn chamber looked like ? Any issues ? I had a weird fuel pump issue plug the whole unit. Fires up, pumps, then slowly looses temp until it shuts off (About 5 minutes) Started checking pump and suddenly it just quit ? Ok, ordered the newer quiet one with the filter on it already (I still filter before it gets there) Ran longer but same issue ? I run 2 X 8K off the same source. So I know it wasn't the fuel. I started to think it was the controller, but wanted to check the chamber for signs of what was going on. Completely plugged with this black powder. Everything wiped out easily as we had no solids? I mean everything packed. New muffler (Anodized one on Amazon) , exhaust pipe and chamber packed? Never seen anything like it. Cleaned everything up, and it was a complete mess... Put her back together with new pump and been running days on high without issue. So for any issue where it starts, hits about 120 C, then tapers off... It's plugged. Hope it helps someone.

[@JoelArseneaultYouTube]

I'm not sure if you misspoke of are confused, or if I just misunderstand...6:00 If the fan speed stays the same, and the pump speed increases, that makes it more rich, not more lean.

[@mobiusx8117]

Great informative video - I'm looking forward to viewing your other heater videos. :-) Subscribed @6:40 - The waste oil looks pretty clean, versus the black oil I drain from my vehicles. Are those blue filters that you use that effective in cleaning it? How many gallons of oil do you think you can process through the filters before the canisters need to be replaced?

[@nicknetotian2108]

I’m trying to figure out the brand of filters that he is running in this video

[@mobiusx8117]

@@nicknetotian2108 I went with this from Amazon (just one, not two). Still need to set it up. "10 Inches European Design Transparent Standard Whole House Water Filter System with Presser Relief Valve, 3/4” Inlet/Outlet Brass Port and Yearly Supply (4) Pleated Sediment Cartridges 5 Micron"

[@fmemories]

In other videos you commented that you modified the burn tube. Could you please share how? Thanks!

[@coreybabcock2023]

I have that same exact tank from harbor freight and wouldn't imagine putting anything but clean water in it why not use a 5 gal gas can but yea I might do this for my heater in my van since I have 8 qts of used oil in my oil change pan on the back of my van and at Sheetz they sell e85 flex too good idea here

[@Luddite1]

Do you have to constantly mix the oil/bio fuel to prevent it separating ?

[@justawfulgamer7738]

No

[@henkasalomonsson8077]

if you dont know, e85 wont mix with Usedmotoroil, it will separating@@justawfulgamer7738

[@Nyth63]

E85 contains UP TO 85% ethanol. It is not guaranteed to have 85%. There are hygrometers made to test the alcohol content.

[@andyhermiz3075]

You still using it how is it running? Would it burn synthatic oil

[@spaceronin7779]

live in iowa also and just got one. how often have you had to clean your burner out?

[@andyhermiz3075]

That's great 👍

[@ronstarner1103]

I live in Iowa also. Are you preheating?

[@mtxkid211]

I just switched mine over to black diesel tonight got it up to full temp opened up my valves and started losing temp shortly after so switched back to diesel and temp came back up any helpful tips? Possible not enough e85? I mixed it pretty close to the 70/30 I made 2 gals of oil for 1 gal of e85

[@mohammed.mustabi5817]

I have a steam boiler in my house. Can apply the same principle.

[@stevecarlisle3323]

Your source of used motor oil can, and likely will have synthetic oil mixed in, which will reduce combustion potential. Mixing with pump fuels, and running on high, will extend your time between issues😊

[@OllieBabaSan]

You have a filtration system for solids but what about water? Used motor and trans oil typically has water in suspension. Do you have a way to remove it? Otherwise you may be doing damage to your truck engine.

[@bearupfarm1818]

Were did you buy the pump

[@strangethings7559]

Do you switch back over to the red diesel before shutting it down?

[@wiredforstereo]

He does.

[@VR6raddo]

I have the same heater and hope to use to also heat my garage. How did you route the exhaust pipe on yours, through the wall?

[@mobiusx8117]

How many gallons of your 70/30 WMO/E85 blend would you estimate you've put through the heater? Any issues so far with the heater after running on this blend?

[@SAIDias]

I’ve run ~50 gallons so far. No errors or temp changes. I will make a cleaning video in the coming weeks.

[@darrylbrown1319]

50 gallons sounds like a success! What pump are you using to filter the oil?

[@englishrupe01]

@@ElectronicMusicUnderground Excellent info, thanks

[@mobiusx8117]

@@darrylbrown1319 In the comments of another video, he mentions that he actually modified the combustion chamber to get it to work on WMO/E85: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oobJkKeZgdaLaZY

[@theusconstitution1776]

Is E 85 85% gasoline 15% ethanol?😮

[@englishrupe01]

Great video.....thanks

[@olmstead25]

I have wanted to experiment with preheating the waiste oil to aid in combustion. I thought about a stainless line wrapped a couple times around the exhaust (with an air gap) to pre heat and make it burn better. Have you played with that before?

[@willardlentz3044]

Lowered Expectations tried that and it didn't work so well. Must have been impurities made air bubbles in the fuel line. Evidently the exhaust gets too hot.

[@jasmorris1286]

What pump for the fuel filter do you use?

[@RGD-Audio-Repairs]

these are great diesel heaters... Run on anything :D But unfortunately, they arent 8kw at all.... impossible when diesel fuel itself only has a 3.5kw energy output.... But still.. they are great...

[@andyhermiz3075]

Would 70% waste oil 20% desiel and 10% petrol work?

[@nickf6144]

how much use have you had without issues so far?

[@coachgeo]

do you shut down on diesel too?

[@sweetwilliam61841]

I like your setup and have 2 questions firstly can I expect to be able to heat a 2 car garage with one of these heaters and get it to a comfortable 65 degrees in winter? and secondly is there any concern burning used motor oil in a workshop with concern for the heavy metals that the used oil contains?

[@benmorris1657]

There is an exhaust port that gets piped outside

[@Sylvan_dB]

Exhaust air goes outside. Combustion air should come from outside as well, to avoid negative pressure in the building.

[@Sky_vulpes]

Do you worry about water in the oil

[@coreybabcock2023]

Can't afford that filter setup pump though

[@markpennella]

What transfer pump are u using?

[@fredrikholmgren5287]

How do you not get separation in the alkohol/oil mix?

[@andyhermiz3075]

Can this burn sythatic oil with petrol mix

[@fredfred2363]

Here's more info on fuels I've tried in the UK spec Vevo 5kW unit, with stock settings (with the controller-new type, late 2022, without the antenna signal indicator): Best fuel, most heat, Kerosene=heating oil=jetA1=paraffin Diesel, red or standard next best Brake fluid, DOT3 diluted with 10% petrol next best Old dirty engine oil diluted 20% with unleaded petrol next best Transmission fluid/old gearbox oil diluted with 10% petrol next (but smelly), no smoke. Old gunwash thinners with 10% old engine oil to give it some lube properties not very good Old petrol with 10% old engine oil, also not very good. Acetone, brake and clutch cleaner (trichloroethylene- don't breath the smoke at all) or alcohol/meths don't really work. With all of the hydrocarbons, it is pretty obvious that there is way too much air running through the combustion chamber, because the exhaust pipe gets really hot (wasted heat). The combustion gas is being pushed straight out of the heat exchanger. If you choke the combustion air inlet a little, while still maintaining a lean and clean burn (at max fan speed), the exhaust temp drops while the heat exchanger actually gets a lot hotter. More time for the hot combustion gases to transfer the heat into the heat sink, as the burning gas is moving slower. Oh and throw away the little fuel filter they supply, as it doesn't filter anything! Get a proper fuel filter... If anyone knows how to crack advanced settings on the new controller unit (without antenna signal indicator), please post! 👍🏻😀🇬🇧

[@TheTrinitygroup]

Hi do you filter the old dirty oil you mix with 20% petrol other than using a decent fuel filter? Thanks

[@vw_beachbuggybrookster]

great info , i tuned my settings with wideband to get the mixture spot on ( old controller) just playing with new controller set up 👍

[@jorgruthschilling]

BTW, the integrated fuel filter inside the Eberspächer fuel pump is even smaller. Fuel filters are different from oil filters. If filtering waste oil would be economically possible, there wouldn't be so much waste oil in garages.

[@autojohn-pu1vf]

@@TheTrinitygroup I'm going to get one and I plan on using fryer oil and used motor oil, I have a restrant fry oil filter setup, hope that works

[@TheTrinitygroup]

@@autojohn-pu1vf yes frying oil will work if filtered well and mixed with 15% petrol, I have been told but do your own research. 👍 burning engine oil is not allowed in the U.K. as far as I am aware though

[@groobo1]

Part of mine with a 50:50 mixture was smoking terribly and clogged the burner :( ,but I think it's a mistake with me that the combustion chamber is not heated and immediately starts on the mix

[@keith3761]

There must be a way to automate the switch, maybe a temperature sensor that can automatically switch the flow.

[@mgcreed]

Where do you get those small valve fittings I've scoured the internet for the last 3 weeks and cannot find a small valve

[@SAIDias]

They are fuel shutoff valves for lawn mowers/small engines. amzn.to/3irKwHz

[@rickloughrey9669]

What pump is that?

[@andyhermiz3075]

Can you run it on 80% used veg oil and 20 petroleum?

[@klifforsburg2799]

Burn hi no buld up doing it for three years even old 80w from gearcase.

[@briancorbett793]

just wondering if going through the trouble to filter the oil and mix with something to thin it why not just use a regular oil furnace?

[@willardlentz3044]

$2,00.00 vs $200.00 That is why

[@jregamey]

I have waste veggie oil it was filtered and spun below half micron Didn't work. I added gasoline. Didn't work. I might try again with fresh heater. I picked up black diesel unfortunately there was not much left and got what was left. I'll probly have better luck mixing it with diesel.

[@andyhermiz3075]

Hey can you update us if you have any build up?

[@johnnyk617]

How much burn time did u manage to get out of your 15 gallon sprayer tank over there? 6-8 hours of continuous heat?

[@SAIDias]

About 2 days. ~7 Gallons per day.

[@cliffelmore5834]

I have a 5 KW heater. On full power. I get about 8 hours a gallon.

[@ExpediteTravels]

That's cool is it still working? Any soot build up?

[@roastntoast7550]

Can you put a link in the description where I can get this filters?

[@SAIDias]

Pentair Pentek 150237 Big Blue Filter Housing, 1" NPT #10 Whole House Heavy Duty Water Filter Housing with High-Flow Polypropylene (HFPP) Cap and Pressure Relief Button, 10-Inch, Black/Blue amzn.to/3GQlBGN

[@roastntoast7550]

@@SAIDias thanks a lot bud6!

[@nicknetotian2108]

Thank you for the video. Does anyone know what the brand of water filters are in the video?

[@thefix2573]

CHInamart. It's all the same unless you go high dollar.

[@rickloughrey9669]

Those were from Menards. One entire unit is like ten bucks. Omg I got em in my house. What a BRILLIANT IDEA

[@That90sShow]

deesull deesull 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@stmaa]

If you preheat the wasteoil before it enters the burner, with a coil around the exhaust, then you can run waste oil without mixing in diesel

[@jregamey]

I tried this. I got waste veggie oil that was spun. I added 2 liters of gas to 17 liters. I even swapped it over from diesel runs for a bit then shuts off. Oil eventually works its way out the exhaust. I kept adding gas and eventually had to much gas. I got a fresh new heater I'm gonna try out today on the veggie oil.

[@Cire3PC]

So you are running 100% diesel, then 100% waste oil with no mix?

[@justawfulgamer7738]

CaN you link to the filters?

[@SAIDias]

Pentair Pentek 150237 Big Blue Filter Housing, 1" NPT #10 Whole House Heavy Duty Water Filter Housing with High-Flow Polypropylene (HFPP) Cap and Pressure Relief Button, 10-Inch, Black/Blue amzn.to/3GQlBGN

[@mobiusx8117]

Did you modify any of the controller setting, specifically pump speed (Hz) or fan speed (RPM)?

[@SAIDias]

This unit does not have an “Advanced Settings” menu. Just Heat 1-8

[@wallacegrommet9343]

Wonder where to buy E85 in Washington ?

[@travishurd7619]

Vary hard too find, as well as bio diesel in washington state

[@wallacegrommet9343]

In Seattle, there is a 100 biodiesel pump at Hans VW repair

[@kiprfrey]

I used to see a station advertising E85 in Longview WA, on the road leading to the bridge over the Columbia. Sort of a low cost gas station, not name brand.

[@oliver90owner]

How much fuel does this heater feed per hour? If the spec is 0.51l/h it is a claimed 5kW heater (they don’t deliver 5kW of hot air, either). For 8kW hot air it would need to burn nearly a litre per hour. So 8kW cheap chinese diesel air heaters do not exist.🙂

[@SAIDias]

I’m not here to debate if an 8Kw CDH exists. Not interested in the debate.

[@thefix2573]

Depends on the pump size, 16-18 5kw or 22-24 8kw, it's just a marketing term, but one does have a bigger pump. Like a electric space heater says it's 5k btu. These units are great for the price. I own a few.

[@DrewNewmanAce]

I can’t get e85, anything else I could use reliably?

[@SAIDias]

Use diesel.

[@mikewestermann1]

I collect free gasoline from craigslist and have filled a 55gal drum when people mistakenly fill there diesel trucks with gasoline. Another good source is a metal scrap yard that takes cars. The gasoline is collected in tanks, my yard gives it away. I mix it 50/50 with diesel. You have to be careful of water contamination freezing up the dose pump with corrosion.

[@BRWfilms]

@@SAIDias why not just use 30% e10?

[@matthewszostek1819]

The ethanol in the gas will ruin your plastic parts, rubber, and hoses. I know from experience. If you put it in your diesel vehicle it will melt your fuel filter.

[@wallacegrommet9343]

Same with the filters. He needs to get a dual Racor fuel filter mount

[@Frz45]

😂

[@jeffspot2999]

I don't believe that.They use plastic containers for ethanol every day and I have never seen one leak.

[@melissasmess2773]

Fuel filter? It's steel and paper on my Cummins bro😂

[@jorgruthschilling]

In Europe there is always a bio-fuel component in Diesel and heating oil. You are right not all fuel hoses and parking heaters are bio-fuel ready. BTW, in all European Union countries burning waste oil in diesel heaters is strictly forbidden by environmental protection laws.

[@ericmieremet]

$2,50 for a gallon ? we ( NL ) pay €2,00 per liter

[@RADMAN752]

I bet it’s not running anymore…..

[@n2omike]

Filter all you want, but motor oil is going to carbon things up quickly. You'll be forever taking it apart to clean. Good luck

[@seymourpro6097]

IFAIK E85 gas is 85% gasoline and 15% ethanol.

[@SAIDias]

No, e85 is just what is says. 85% ethanol. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/E85

[@jeffspot2999]

That can't be right considering that unleaded gasoline has anywhere from 10 to 15% ethanal in it.E85 must be 85% ethanal.

[@thefix2573]

You're thinking of the sign on the pump that says "contains up to 10% or 15% ETHANOL" E85 is 85% ethanol. I run non ethanol in all my small engines.

[@1linderoth]

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[@coreybabcock2023]

Guess I can't run oil cause I can't run it high in the van it'll roast me out

[@Utubegofukurself]

Yap yap yap yap yap.....info you came for starts about 2:30