chinese friendships be like

Are you really friends if you're not willing to offer your own head?
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[@MasterofRoflness]

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[@big_sea]

yes

[@shinsenshogun900]

Do a series of videos on the article Decline of the Han Dynasty and it's battles

[@sonofangron2969]

What’s the movie you used the last stand scene from?

[@salonishukla4320]

Can you make a video on Indo pal 1971

[@Adhjie]

@Microwave44466 unlisted my guy prolly for patrons

[@jessietricia1609]

One of the greatest gigachads in Chinese history. He lost the battle but won eternal fame and recognition to generations who came after him and heard his story. RIP.

[@SADBOY-di3th]

@Augusto Cuervo samurai learned from him

[@lmichael4307]

@Augusto Cuervo when committing suicide, samurai cut their belly. On the other hand, Chinese usually slit their throats.

[@Borderose]

Oh, in terms of personal qualities, Xiang Yu is the superior man with the more romantic story. Xiang Yu: Peerless Warrior. Super strong. Very tall even by today's standards (he was 6'2 or 6'3 in a world and age where most men are lucky to get 5') Young and handsome. Had a cool birthmark on his eyes that made it look like one of them had double-pupils. Basically the Jordan of Warrior-Kings. Actually meant and honored his promises, and had genuine friends and comrades willing to die with him. Had a cool horse. Had a legendary beauty for a consort. Descendant of a noble warrior family. Actually led the bulk of the rebellion that destroyed the Qin Dynasty. Liu Bang: Peasant. Village trickster. Became a rebel because he was late for work and decided banditry was better than execution for a few hours of sleep. Super charming but absolutely should not be trusted. Willing to sacrifice anyone for his own benefit. Betrayed all his friends. Xiang Yu and Han Xin included. Betrayed his wife. His wife probably single-handedly held women back in China due to being such an odiously cruel and corrupt empress-dowager that the archetype she started carried on for almost 3000 years. To Liu Bang's credit, his rule might have been better for peasants than Xiang Yu's. Xiang Yu was a true martial aristocrat. A knight-general. Liu Bang actually made reforms that made life better for the commoners and eased a lot of the harshness brought about by the previous dynasty.

[@arandomperson5649]

Not really.Xiangyu is very cruel and brutal that even if cities surrendered to him peacefully,he will still kill the citizens.When the 200k Qin army surrendered,he burried them alive.This causes everyone to distrust and resist since they will die even if they surrendered.If xiangyu won his dynasty might have collapsed faster than Qin

[@fsdds1488]

​​@@BorderoseLiu Bang wasn't a peasant but a cop, he's the head of small police office, so one guy is the renowned son of great military noble, while the other is just a cop that recently lose his job.

[@agthe18themperor]

The ultimate "would you let your best friend kill himself for $100,000?"

[@yuluoxianjun]

i think 1 billion dollars is right to suit this vedio reward that friend got.

[@Cat-pv6yx]

Hun MrBeast challenges be like

[@tkraid2575]

The OG MrBeast 😂

[@nigeltan676]

​@@yuluoxianjundude got a fiefdom the size of a small country as a reward

[@1.4142]

Not like he was going to stop everyone else fromm killing him

[@theicepickthatkilledtrotsk658]

It never ceases to amaze me how insane Chinese history is.

[@thelegendaryloaf9285]

They be doing some crazy stuff bro

[@shenzhong2942]

@Recep Koç every mongolian gangsta until they accidentally turn chinese after ruling for 100 years

[@glowtail3744]

Smallest Chinese army: 100,000

[@heakhaek]

​@Augusto Cuervo Yep a happy family

[@Borderose]

The rule in Chinese history is: "It's just like the rest of world history, just add two 0s at the end of every death toll."

[@DilbeardAlbeard]

I saw the whole historical drama of Kingdoms of Chu VS Han after the Qin empire fell. It was very dramatic and Xiang Yu was the "never give up". Lu Matong was born from the same village Xiangyu was from and his last words to him were "Since I'll die today, I'll let my comrade have the reward". Also, Lu Matong used to be commander under Xiangyu forces.

[@shinsenshogun900]

Chu-Han Contention was the ultimate contest of whether China stays united under a single empire or a competitive attempt to restore Eastern Zhou dynasty-Warring States feudalism status quo

[@zeriel9148]

The difference between Chinese then and Chinese now is like a totally different species. Wild what some cultural devolution will do to a person.

[@b30574]

@@zeriel9148 wdym! the chinese people ive met are really nice

[@tranquoccuong890-its-orge]

@@zeriel9148 its like comparing a roman citizen to an italian

[@shinsenshogun900]

@@zeriel9148 Everything changed when the barbarians woke up and chose violence to subjugate the ruling inhabitants...

[@Robotnumber9]

The most well-known and perhaps the greatest historian of ancient China, Sima Qian of the Han Dynasty (the one that defeated Xiang Yu's forces before becoming the ruling regime), placed Xiang Yu alongside other Kings and Emperors in his "Records of the Grand Historian" despite Xiang's not really qualified to be one, Yep, Xiang Yu is so much of a gigachad that his rival's historian became his fanboy.

[@tktktkam947]

Also a femboy

[@maxqazwsxedc1050]

@@tktktkam947 I mean he still had bigger balls than all the other officials combine, consider he was eunuchized for speaking against the emperor's decision

[@Cub__]

​@@tktktkam947 yikes

[@lordofthepies]

@@maxqazwsxedc1050 I mean technically... By that logic his balls couldn't be the biggest, owning to the fact they no longer exist

[@maxqazwsxedc1050]

@@lordofthepies I believe they took the stick and left the balls alone

[@CoffeeSuccubus]

Chinese History is just game of thrones spanning more than 30 seasons until the writing changed completely in the 1911 arc

[@madtntfreak360]

Still the same lol

[@Borderose]

I hate the Communism Arc. I wish they'd go back to what made previous seasons so captivating to read about.

[@madtntfreak360]

@@Borderose communism arc goes crazy

[@PitunghereTNOschizo100]

@@madtntfreak360 nah it was goes crazy on Taiping arc.

[@Lok-og1ir]

Not 1911, 1928 actually. The year that Zhang Zuolin the warlord of northern east assassinated by Japanese.After Zhang died, his son surrender to KMT and the most powerful warlord in china disappear. Warlord Period of China after Qing Dynasty fall is very “Game of Thrones ”.

[@Dz_-pm5hw]

In Chinese history, Xiang Yu is the only one who is referred to as the Overlord or the Hegemon-King (霸王). Lu Bu's battle record was hardly impressive in official Chinese history. But Xiang Yu had personally slayed 100+ soldiers in more than one battle, recorded by multiple credible ancient historians. Xiang Yu may not be the best general overall, but he is often considered the strongest warrior in ancient China. And the dude was only 25 when he led around 50K men and won against 400K Qin forces in the Battle of Julu. He died at 30.

[@albanianenjoyer9509]

Was this Qin Shi Huang’s china?

[@gameanimeking]

@@albanianenjoyer9509Yeah, after his death Qin empire went tits up due to corrupt courtiers and generals.

[@DarthFhenix55]

@@gameanimeking China dying due to corruption, that's a classic.

[@GGWP-gm5cq]

@@gameanimeking I wouldn’t say it was corruption of “generals and courtiers”. The biggest contributor to fall of Qin are Zhao Gao and Li Si, who change the Qin Shi Huang’s decree and made his beloved first born son Fu Su into suicide, and make the spoiled brat Huhai the heir to the throne. If Fu Su would succeed Qin Shi Huang as he has visioned, history will be very different. He was recorded as a just and sincere person who was surrounded by competent scholars and generals that were devote to his cause. He was attributed of writing many letters to his father to ask him pardon Confucius scholars. And Qin Shi Huang, despite being enraged by his son’s letter, still make him the crowned prince regardless. The monarchy is everything but corrupted, it is a shame that Qin Shi Huang’s vision was never followed through. Ironically the only reason that Fu Su would commit the suicide as instructed is that he is a devout follower of Confucius. His followers are suspicious of the forged letter, but failed to convince him. His last words “父而賜子死，尚安復請” can be roughly translated as “if a father wishes the death of his son, what more should be asked”.

[@heakhaek]

Built different

[@ryandumaguit4724]

When I asked my friend what's the whole summary for Romance of the Three Kingdoms he replied as: The Amazing tales of Romanticizing War Crimes against each other.

[@khai96x]

Why is it "romanticizing" and not "sinicizing"? What the hell does the Romans have to do with all of this?

[@fedyx1544]

@@khai96x I hope that's a joke lmao

[@Ttegegg]

@@fedyx1544 cmon fam that’s the correct word use

[@ingratus8160]

@@fedyx1544 It definitely is and it's genius.

[@fedyx1544]

@@ingratus8160 it's a KZbin comment section, I wouldn't be too sure

[@joshuachong6438]

I think MasterofRoflness missed the best part. There is a chinese idiom that stemmed from this event, called *四面楚歌* meaning "surrounded on 4 sides by the songs of Chu" Xiang Yu fled with his men to the camp, surrounded by Han soldiers. The Han Soldiers under Liu Bang then started *SINGING SONGS AND POETRY* from the state of CHU (Xiang Yu and most of his men were from Chu since they had practically executed every prisoner in their hands unlike Liu Bang). The Chu soldiers felt homesick and thought that since the Han soldiers were singing their song, that it must be that Chu had fallen (this in fact had not happened). Fearing for their families, they started surrendering, Chu Officers were unable to stop them, in the end, Xiang Yu gave up on disclipining the soldiers and the main Chu force collapsed. Then an idiom came about literally flexing this event, 四面楚歌, it usually means a situation is hopeless, or an army is surrounded

[@ttq3661]

Nice

[@xaf15001]

That's some gigabrain shit.

[@choosenoftheeightfields3429]

I'd like to also note that, Liu Bang and the veterans that followed him from the beginning were natuve to the lands of Chu.

[@shinybreloom4027]

the first psyop

[@BM-13_KATYUSHA]

*AGGGHHHHH FUCK* I stubbed my toe! There is a Chinese idiom for that!

[@daithimcnally8212]

Female friendship: Im here for you Sharon! Male friendships:

[@armandaspurvinis5845]

​@MrFishmanman and after his self destruction Hans men took his words to heart and had a huge orgy to honor his wise words

[@stefschouwenaars9562]

"Thanks for the money, dummy!"

[@boo1boot261]

​@MrFishmanman Now make Love in War

[@thatoneyeeter]

We're rich!

[@glutenfree7057]

Nah, in female friendships we go down together. If she jumps off a cliff, I’m back flipping after her.

[@happycentury4288]

In high school literature class I read a classical chinese historical literature about this very battle. it seemed boring back then, but now Im instead amazed at the school for how they managed to turn this tale of dominance, huge battles and tragic friendship into a mindnumbing blur of words.

[@usrnewxnew5227]

Exactly. I'm astounded at school's ability to turn some of the most metal ass stories ever which actually happened into a complete fucking snoozefest.

[@yuluoxianjun]

@@usrnewxnew5227 when you have 5000 years history,then nothing is new.

[@usrnewxnew5227]

@@yuluoxianjun who says it has to be new to be interesting? Is the concept of a love story new or unique? No right? Still millions of people watch, listen or read the same love stories retold again and again in different forms. The history of every country has some of the most badass and interesting people that ever lived and the history subject at school doesn't reflect it at all, somehow. These people don't have to be unique and their stories can be told in so much more interesting ways such that children would remember them.

[@JarthenGreenmeadow]

@@usrnewxnew5227 Seriously. History is so cool and school somehow makes it people's least favorite subject. I've talked to people about what of I know of history and they are like "You make history seem so interesting" and its like.... BECAUSE IT FKN IS!

[@jasonzhou1948]

true chinese friendships always end in suicide trust

[@tonyzheng2347]

Xiang Yu is a real chad, Liu Bang spent his remaining life praising him

[@mvalthegamer2450]

They too were friends before Xiang Yu tried to murder him

[@melancholicwriter56]

Deadass Liu Bang got PTSD when Ying Bu used a formation that Xiang Yu liked using against Liu Bang.

[@bkjeong4302]

Guy was a brilliant general but was absolute shit at everything else.

[@littleantukins4415]

>unify >collapse >repeat Chinese history in a nutshell

[@alexmag342]

Pfp perfectly fitting for the comment

[@littleantukins4415]

@@alexmag342 agree it's endless suffering

[@jumpvelocity3953]

They for real need to collapse and the KMT’s inheritors need to take over.

[@qzamap3870]

Basically the opening line of the Romance of the Three Kingdoms. "The Empire, long divided, must unite; long united, it must divide. Thus it has ever been."

[@skazka3789]

Taiwan hasn't been reunified yet.

[@Thecognoscenti_1]

My ancestor fought in this battle on the Han side, he was 彭越 (Peng Yue), the Prince of Liang. He was later accused of treason, executed, literally turned into pate, and then force-fed to the Empire's leading aristocrats.

[@Tarik360]

R.I.P.

[@gary4936]

Bro got that confucius tier family tree.

[@VainerCactus0]

Strong "30,000 civilians eaten" energy.

[@hannibalburgers477]

>Your ancestor And I am the descendant of Charlemagne.

[@miketacos9034]

This 红烧肉 tastes funny

[@konstantinriumin2657]

I imagine five Chinese soldiers pinging severed head and exclaiming "We're rich! We're rich! We're rich! We're rich!"

[@众星弧光]

In fact, they obtained different parts. Some gained arms, some gained legs, and in the end, they were able to piece together to form a complete body, so in the end, these few people all gained their own territory.

[@qingxuanyue]

Yeah they probably did. Inf act one of those guys (he got a leg) founded a thousand-year long family called Yang it had some emperors in the sui-tang era. Maybe you've heard of Yang Guifei or Consort Yang?

[@iamyourfather9391]

By the way, this man was a tactical genius who used his unrivaled personal strength as an advantage. Unlike the usual perception of Xiang Yu being a brawn-over-brains person, he had been extremely successful in all his campaigns prior to this battle, though in the battles his central homeland force was whittled down by the constant bloodshed. He would use his personal force to provide morale for the army or even tear out an opening in the opponent’s formation, then grasping that chance to shatter the opposing army. This is named “the inclination strategy” and barely repeated in Chinese history due to better technology later outweighing one man’s ability in war.

[@Borderose]

Xiang Yu was an amazing battlefield tactician and a valiant commander on top of being a heaven-blessed warrior. His problem is his inability to gather or recognize men of equal or better caliber or heed their advice when around. Everything in Xiang's army revolved around his own qualities. While Liu Bang gathered men of much greater talent than himself and bound them in loyalty and friendship through charm and personality. Xiang Yu was also sensitive to the topic of his own personal honor, and that made him vulnerable to utter scoundrels like Liu Bang.

[@iamyourfather9391]

@@Borderose yes, most of the generals under Xiang Yu are either past Chu nobles like him save for nonexistent skills. The few people that are good at war are outshined by Xiang Yu.

[@iamyourfather9391]

@@Borderose also an important factor is Xiang Yu’s endless campaigns East while Liu Bang rested in the Sichuan basin. Especially after Liu Bang earned the trust of previously Qin people, those that live in today’s Shaanxi and Gansu south. They made up most of the elite forces of Liu Bang, so when Liu Bang continued East Xiang Yu faced a hateful army of high standards while his own forces are severely worn down by rebellious dukes in the East.

[@mrthanos2404]

He was a great tactician but not a strategist, his lack of proper long term planning and rash decisions caused his downfall. He was only 30 when he died, his opponent Liu Bang was twice his age.

[@bkjeong4302]

@@Borderose A lot of that was caused by his own failing as a politician. Making a habit of committing genocide and burying POWs alive whenever you win a battle (which happened a LOT) not only makes you a lot of enemies, it also means you run out of subjects to rule over.

[@owenmaxwell734]

Xiang Yu is called the Conqueror of Western Chu, and a common description of him is : His strength can rivals that of the sea and his aura can split the sky. So ya, dude's basically whitebeard with conqueror hakki

[@efectovogel8295]

Also the fact that Liu Bang (the king that defeated Xiang Yu) and Xiang Yu were sworn brothers

[@Thenomad1227]

Kinda got me emotional ngl.

[@shinsenshogun900]

Homie would not want to explain his late homies' families of what became of them

[@brendansage6876]

The Halo: Reach final stand OST hits different, no matter the scene it's edited over.

[@nulnoh219]

History is usually written by the Victors. If the Victors say that Xiang Yu mowed down 100 of their bois solo.... It's gotta have some truth to that.

[@trollmcclure2659]

He had a lot of more of impressive feats, the official history compiled few decades after kept praising the founding emperor's biggest rival and recorded a lot of negatives of the founding emperor who was so scared of Xiang Yu who just defeated him despite being extremely outnumbered that he kicked his own children out of the carriage to flee faster

[@qingxuanyue]

yeah, liu bang was a fucking dick. When xiangyu threatened to boil his parents alive, liu bang just retorted "Since we are brothers, you ought to share a portion of my father's flesh with me in dinner." Xiangyu was disgusted and let his dad go.@@trollmcclure2659

[@Stinkum2333]

@@trollmcclure2659Xiang Yu was true God of War in ancient China, by that time he was only about 24. Hell when I was 24 I still fxking around my medical books in university😂He is a true legend

[@TheInfectous]

Bro like, this just didn't happen. Picture it for 10 seconds, actually think is this a realistic scenario that could take place. You have a massive army trying to kill 1 dude and they can't do it. They could be naked and all they'd have to do is run at him. They could be armless and run at him and they'd still take him down before he could kill 100. The truth it has to it is that there was some political or social purpose for creating a heroic myth for the opposition or it's just a story that lost it's context. I swear guys, it's like critical thinking is a lost art.

[@MycoSC]

@@TheInfectousit’s probably because ppl didn’t actually read the account as well. When “Xiang Yu personally killed around a hundred enemy” in his last stand, he wasn’t alone, he had with him what’s left of his bodyguards. (Though by this point down to perhaps two dozen men) There is still potential exaggeration in that account (for example credit every dead soldier in that battle to xiangyu), but overall a lot more believable.

[@YOUFREAKINNERD]

Never has “thanks for the money, dummies” hit so hard!! 😭😭😭

[@cpegg5840]

Imagine what the Han soldiers must have thought seeing Xiang Yu cut down over 100 of them singlehandedly; they must have thought he was a demigod. Absolute gigachad. Respect.

[@egbertmilton4003]

Too bad it probably wasn’t real

[@yidminselaks]

@@egbertmilton4003 True, but the historical source of this video was written by a historian of the Han dynasty, so he must really have impressed his enemies regardless of how many he actually killed.

[@众星弧光]

In fact, Xiang Yu was a more cruel executioner than Hitler. Before his death, he had already killed millions of people and destroyed many cities (including the famous capital of Qin). Due to his cruelty, no one was willing to support him, which was also one of the reasons for his failure. His hobby is cooking, and he has cooked many people in recorded history，Including strategists who provide him with advice。

[@عليياسر-ذ5ب]

​@@众星弧光 Han's evil propaganda turns the villain into a hero and the hero into a villain

[@gameanimeking]

I would say that if anyone is great at propganda then it would be the Chinese, though you are right he would be a hero at his time but had to be shown as a villain because really a new Han empire is being founded. Would you really say that the founding emperor was not good at the time and even individually weaker than his rival for the throne. Did he do those execution thingy like said back then, probably yeah. But this was probably considered run of the mill act during that time, specially during the Qin empire, Heck Qin Shi Huang would be happy to see someone as brutal as him to nobles and scholars as him. Noble Clans and School of Thoughts Scholars had more power than you would think, they could literally ruin an empire from the inside if they wanted and make the enpire weak if they did not have their way.

[@TeuerAngelSketches]

A true moment of enlightement in my life, learning that before anime, there was chinese history.

[@neverletmego6414]

Smallest army in Chinese history: 100 million cavalries, 5 billion footmen, 10 brazillion armed peasants, and 3 ancient divine dragons

[@marcobonesi6794]

same with tiberius gracchus. The legionaire that killed him even tried to increase the weight of his head with lead to receive more gold (the senators had promised the weight of tiberius' head in gold to the killer)

[@marcobonesi6794]

@@zhongguo108 not out fault if we europeans are based and have molded the human culture to an huge degree. And indians and chinese envy us for this.

[@niccolorichter1488]

iam confused becese iam pretty sure that Tiberius was killed by senators led by Scipio Nasca younger than Pontifex Maximus Maybe you are confusing him with his brother Gaius

[@filippo2806]

@@zhongguo108 looks like some Indian boy is coping for the British conquest of india

[@mahogany7712]

@@marcobonesi6794 Its the Chinese Arrogance that led to it being out paced by Western Barbarians, It's your Kinds fault that the Whiteman ruled the earth for centuries.

[@GAMER123GAMING]

@@zhongguo108Whats that? Are you perhaps speaking a European language for the supreme economic and intellectual benefits of being able to understand the EVROPANS

[@brokensky2378]

Xiang Yu: an actual god of war, descendant of noble generals, elite commander who toppled the Qin armies. Liu Bang: peasant boi, deviant trickster. Han Xin: former tent guard, unparalleled god genius of war. "What do you mean he took all my soldiers and want me to conquer a kingdom in like three months with 2000 men?"

[@th3kgbdog385]

The drg "WE'RE RICH!" sound effect awakens a lot of memories

[@gamergumilyov8579]

Management sure does regret allowing dwarves to keep the Gold they found

[@buttyogurt]

ROCK AND STONE YOU BEAUTIFUL DWARF

[@th3kgbdog385]

@@buttyogurt you just put a little smile on my face, damn you playstation plus!!!

[@quietobserver7326]

LEAVE NO DWARF BEHIND!

[@Ziggyoz]

Holly shit, "take my head for the sake of our friendship". Some heartbreaking bromance right there.

[@shinsenshogun900]

One of those that claimed one piece of Xiang Yu's intact body parts would also become handsomely rewarded, had him, his clan, and their descendants participate in the government, and eventually would become the ancestor of a unifying Chinese imperial dynasty. The power of Chinese friendship and fellow competitions. Do a series of videos on the article Decline of the Han Dynasty and it's battles

[@giovannilloretsorribas2836]

Sima clan?

[@tyh5796]

Yang's clan

[@shinsenshogun900]

@@giovannilloretsorribas2836 The Sima clan sadly chose the wrong, based side of the Chu-Han Contention, and would not be able to receive rewards over Xiang Yu's bodyparts

[@shinsenshogun900]

@@tyh5796 This is correct, for the Yang Clan of Hongnong descends from their ancestor securing a piece of Xiang Yu and become a prestigious marquis

[@korawitbuttramee618]

Xiang Yu has to be the coolest 'loser' even recorded in history with Sasaki Kojiro as the second close, and he was probably the earliest example of anti-hero. Not surprise why Chinese poets love him. He might lose to Liu Bang but goddamn if he didn't leave one hell of an impression.

[@willvan7685]

Isn't Kojiro's actual existence heavily scrutinised? I'm asking because I think I saw something about how he was quite literally made up to be Musashi's rival. "There is no evidence he even lived. The name Sasaki Kojiro appears for the first time in 18th century Bunraku plays. Musashi himself never mentions Kojiro or the duel in his writings." According to someone on Quora, this duel DID happen, but the person he was dueling was an unnamed swordsman referred to as Ganryu for his fighting style, the latter of which is corroborated by Kojiro's page on wikipedia, however his wikipedia page seems to have... a lot of red flags in terms of sources and citations.

[@jurtra9090]

In the same year of this battle, Battle of Zama was happened between Rome and Carthage Wasn't that insane that 2 battles that shaped the history of 2 continents happened around the same time and using the nearly-identical strategy?

[@miketacos9034]

Liu Bang is so 棒, he was like “What if instead of being a bloodthirsty tyrant, I be nice to the peasants and stuff?” Man even was like “No Please please, you don’t have to make me emperor.”

[@selectivepontification8766]

And then when he became emperor he turned around and backstabbed most of the people that helped him

[@nullvoid6095]

@@selectivepontification8766 Stalin stole his move

[@庫倫亞利克]

The Bang in Liu Bang is written as 邦 though. It means country.

[@tanjeeschuan4999]

​@@nullvoid6095he stole my whole flow! Word for word bar for bar

[@chickenchicken8097]

@@庫倫亞利克 刘邦 or 劉邦

[@HWDragonborn]

I loved how a video showing the beautiful story of a man who willingly sacrificed his own life just to help his friend to improve his financial situation was ended with "Thanks for the money, dummy!"

[@akend4426]

Man, ancient Chinese history is just the craziest thing, isn’t it?

[@CallofDutyBlackOps28]

The Huns; Mongols, Vlad Dracula, Joan The Maid, Mehmed The II, The Goths ... History may be written by the victors, but even in defeat there is never shame in knowing that you've cemented yourself in peoples minds (at the time) and if someone asks about you even 1000 years down the way?

[@qingxuanyue]

@@CallofDutyBlackOps28 Joan was special too. She was a factor of initiating imperialism in France

[@sdsdfgle]

such an underrated part of history

[@TTminh-wh8me]

Gigachad Xiang Yu: never give up, kill 100 enemy soldiers like an anime protagonist, suicide for his bro Virgin Liu Bang: only win by manipulating and betraying everyone (even friends), be a beta toward the Huns (Xiongnu)

[@korawitbuttramee618]

They're both interesting in their own way, but I must say Xiang Yu's life is a goddamn amazing story. Liu Bang might be the founder of the dynasty that laid major foundation for Imperial China, yet he was remembered as a conniving scoundrel who mercilessly and dishonorably put his kingmakers to death. Despite that, we can't deny that Liu Bang had the most important skill of a leader: delegation. Meanwhile, Xiang Yu became some sort of mythical folk hero who is subjected to many romances (for a 'loser', Xiang Yu's deeds were rather well documented IMO) and endless debates whether he is a hero or villain. While he is the loser in history, his force of personality still echoed thousands years later. Not an easy feat for a person to achieve, and considering Xiang Yu could probably ended up as a footnote in Liu Bang's pages since winners write history, it's very impressive.

[@gigachad2162]

"Are you really friends if you're not willing to offer your own head?" No.

[@hanismh6300]

Sounds gay

[@kisaragireion]

Xiang Yu vs Liu Bang fight to succeed Qin Dynasty is proof that Max Luck Max Charisma is a more viable build in this world than Max Strength Also, I know Lu Bu is famous in Three Kingdoms stories, but Xiang Yu ain’t joke. Some say he’s even stronger!

[@dziku2222]

Lol, Liu Bang really became an emperor by an accident. It's one of the more random events in the history.

[@shinsenshogun900]

@@dziku2222 Either he surrenders himself to death to complete his prisoner escort mission, or become an ideal fugitive turned emperor with able advisers & generals.

[@thien0300]

@@dziku2222 lv1 farmer to lv100 Emperor.

[@brandof123]

@@dziku2222 not by accident, by being cunning and using the right people

[@dziku2222]

@@brandof123 Still, it's really absurd to get this amount of opportunities to use right, especially with his background. :P

[@yangli4119]

For who is interested, the story after that is even crazier Three Heroes of the early Han dynasty, Han Xin, Peng Yue, Ying Bu are all killed Peng Yue's corpse was minced into pieces, salted like meat, and distributed to all the noble families of China(by empress) Han Xin's story was the most legendary one among all, he led only a 30000 soilders to conquest 6 kindoms in the north to save Liubang, which make him to be considered the best general ever. However after the war over, he was excecuted by the empress without even a little resistance LMAO. That is what most of the history be like I think, heroes fight like legend, and die like a comedy.

[@thekyler9529]

Random KZbinr in the street: would you kill yourself for a friend? Xiang Yu: YES

[@khronostheavenger8923]

I think I get why FGO hypes Xiang Yu so much now. The man was such a legend.

[@otisphilips1011]

One acts like a 大哥, but the other is just a 小鱼苗. Indeed, a Chinese moment.

[@lordofmankind33]

Based Xiang Yu moment

[@diegoborges1348]

Kingdom, One Piece, AoT, Darkest Dungeon and more. Your references are unmatched.

[@avisdunrandom]

Fight against stronger ennemy. Flip everything in risky tactics. Fail but still fight until the end. Take 100 soldier before killing himself for a Bro. He is just a gigachad.

[@jovicamateric7756]

MasterofRoflness' glorified Wikipedia page reviews are the reason I'm into history.

[@danielhall6354]

this is an example of one of those situations where you have to believe history even if its not true

[@krisnatherryano4610]

At one side in ancient China we got a dude that gained power and then 200 million people died, and the other side we got fucking General Radahn.

[@oomphur8195]

chinese history is the coolest shit ever, like there has to be a manga adaptation somewhere

[@roychen5235]

Search up "Kingdom"

[@samhwwg]

Xiang Yu was an absolute unit, however he was never suitable to be a ruler. During the War on Qin, Liu Bang was the first of the rebel forces to enter the capital of Qin, he accepted the plea of surrender from the final Qin Emperor, spared him, and all the citizens in the capital. He then simplified the endlessly complicated laws of the legalist Qin to three simple rules: murderers must die; thieves and assaulters must pay their price. His right hand man, Xiao He, took all the governmental records in order to quickly re-establish peace and stability to the state of Qin. Xiang Yu later came, killed the former Qin Emperor (who already surrendered, might I remind you), slaughtered countless citizens and burnt the entire capital. It was such a devastating fire, historic records say that the city burned for 3 months (a bit questionable, likelier time being somewhere between 3 days to 1 week). This fire not only destroyed a gigantic city, but also the countless books that were within. Qin Shi Huang (the first emperor) once decreed that “the sacred book of the east” and the “book of poems” must not be spread outside of the royal library, and demanded all of the Chinese people in his time to burn their copies of the books. These books were some of the greatest works of China, encompassing philosophy, political sciences, history, moral etc. By burning the capital of Qin, he destroyed the last copy of “the sacred book of the east” and the “book of poems”. Which is a real shame.

[@raihanwidodo1042]

"Would you kill your best friend for X amount of money" live action

[@chandikinkarmohapatra7486]

except, here the best friend decided to killed himself to give the money for his friend.

[@hx5525]

@@chandikinkarmohapatra7486 The guy was obviously on his last breath/straw

[@riza-2396]

​@@hx5525Actually he could've totally survived by crossing the river and go gather up a new troop, but he never returned back to the other side of the river because all of his friends who were following him since they were kids died, so he suicided, because he doesn't want to face the parents of his dead friends. Unlike Liu Bang manipulating everyone and Han Xin gathering up massive peasant human wave conscripts' army, Xiang Yu's warriors are his friends.

[@jonnyxiang]

I'm glad to see the story of my ancestors here

[@collinsmith9288]

Metal as fuck.

[@Borderose]

Xiang Yu was a grand monster of a warrior. No one could kill him and he killed everyone that dared to try him. In his last stand, he personally killed 100 soldiers sent after him. Too bad he wasn't a better politician. Otherwise China would have developed very differently. (Trivia: If any of you played Suikoden II. Xiang Yu was the basis for Luca Blight. Luca's prowess was modelled after the Hegemon-King's.)

[@pogchamp9746]

Thank god someone recognize Luca Blight. Back there, That guy keep defeating my entire team and one on one combat.

[@Borderose]

@@pogchamp9746 It took an ambush, 3 full 6-person teams of heroes armed to the teeth with weapons and runes, several volleys of cutscene arrows, cornering him into a trap, peppering him with more cutscene arrows, plus a final one-on-one duel with the main hero with his health bar reduced to single-digit pixels to finally beat him--AND HE COULD STILL KICK THE HERO'S ASS at his sorry state if the player effed up. Luca was a friggin beast.

[@redblue5140]

Obviously he didn't kill 100 people, it is propaganda...

[@wojiaomiki]

From what I read, Xiang Yu had his horse leave him but the horse refused. Then his consort felt that she's just a burden to him so she asked to commit suic*de. Xiang Yu refused lol then the consort sword danced and then slit her throat. There's a Beijing Opera based on it (Farewell, My Concubine/The Hegemon King Bids Farewell to His Lady).

[@keyboardtaskforcephi-3689]

Killrd 100 people after fighting all day wounded and exhausted. Sounds like isekai protagonist

[@Minboelf]

Two random Chinese stranger:Just met like 0.00000000001 seconds ago Few moments later *LET'S BE BLOOD BROTHERS!*

[@shinsenshogun900]

Often starts with escalating quarrels and then brawls that were interrupted by a third person who bridges each other's relations by charm

[@Minboelf]

@@shinsenshogun900 wuxia drama in the nutshell

[@angsern8455]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/ipjYmquPrLyVpK8

[@fsdds1488]

​​@@shinsenshogun900But in reality 12 million people would die (referring to the Hui rebellion in 1862, where two guy arguing for bamboo ownership snowballed into major rebellion, assisted by racist local official who make everything miserable)

[@shinsenshogun900]

@@fsdds1488 ah yes, the local xenophobe joins the fray to make life miserable in the far Chinese west around the same turbulent time somebody declares himself the demon slaying brother of Jesus and vanquisher of pre-imperial classical beliefs responsible for his failures in the civil service exams (try memorizing 9000 writing characters & make an essay out of why the Qing Manchus deserve to rule the Chinese Empire with these 9000 Chinese letters)

[@alexmelling5261]

Xiang Yu could not be allowed to exist in this corrupt world

[@shinsenshogun900]

Indeed, he had been the catalyst to reverse Qin Legalist tyranny upon the ancient Nine Provinces of China

[@mosquitoman5899]

wdym he burned down civilians along with their city because they resisted him.

[@1Thunderfire]

Because everything was so sweet and pure back then?

[@ryannathaniel9296]

@@1Thunderfire I think the "this corrupt world" referred to "back then" (Ancient China)

[@yigon5412]

he burnt down cities, genocided an army of 300000 surrendered qin troops, killed the surrendered ruler of qin ziying, killed innocent civilians for reason and was paranoid of everybody to the point of dismissing the guy who got him to power Fan zeng. he surely was no saint, not even another ruler; but a bloodthirsty megalomaniac tyrant.

[@NucleaRaptor]

_"...And he was a good friend."_

[@Someone-ho1ls]

(1:25) Yes yes you're rich, kindly get a move on -- I've got management breathing down my neck here.

[@persiancarpet5535]

Now I have the image of four dwarves pinging Xiang Yu's corpse stuck in my head, so thanks ig.

[@shirshojyoti3472]

LMFAO loved to see the Deep Rock Galactic meme "we're rich!" at the end. Great game.

[@Bdawgvalidest]

Least greedy Chinese politicians

[@Muramasa1794]

Love seeing the Kingdom Manga and Kings war shown as clips lol

[@brokensky2378]

Your average Three Kingdoms battle: - Adopted Grandson of Eunuch, Cow Cow, attempts to assassinate evil superfat overlord. - Evil Dong overlord adopts peerless warrior Lu Bu after the latter betrays him for a speedy horse - Lu Bu nearly kills Cow Cow, Cow Cow flees - Cow Cow joins grand coalition led by famous man Yuan Shao to topple evil overlord. - Coalition falls apart, everyone fights over stupid Jade Seal - Cow Cow, unparalleled genius of war, obliterates Yuan Shao with a force 1/10 the size of Yuan Shao's grand army. - Cow Cow, now with grand army, is in turn obliterated by Sun Quan and Liu Bei with 1/10 the size of Cow Cow's army. - Liu Bei seizes the western third of the country, Sun Quan gets jealous - Sun Quan kills Liu Bei's sworn brother, Guan Yu, and his other sworn brother Zhang Fei dies after getting drunk. - Liu Bei raises massive army, only to be destroyed by Sun Quan's top general with another army 1/10 the size of Liu Bei's - Liu Bei dies of big sad, entrusts dumb son and crumbling empire to Zhuge Liang, his genius trusted advisor. - Zhuge Liang literally malds to death micro-ing against Cow Cow's descendants' Wei kingdom, with a population 1/10 the size of Wei's - Somehow Wei kingdom is stolen by "eagle-stare wolf-eyed" Sima Yi, who outlives three generations of Wei emperors - Other kingdoms fall into ruin, Sima Yi's kids conquer everyone else.

[@brokensky2378]

And yes, I know it is Cao Cao, it's just funnier to say Cow Cow.

[@logosflame3511]

@BrokenSky “Zhuge Liang literally malds to death microing.” LMFAO, so true

[@ZhaoYang221]

​@@logosflame3511 Zhuge played every role and even carried the whole team.

[@boxtank5288]

​@@ZhaoYang221 once Liu Bei died, it was the beginning of the end for the kingdom of Shu. When Zhuge Liang died, that was the moment tactical brilliance ended. For all of Liu Shan's faults and failings, SURRENDERING was the wisest thing he did after one battle against the Kingdom of Jin. (And yet people mock him for this even though his PRIOR Failures deserve that mockery far more than the end of his rule) Also all 3 kingdoms (before Jin came along) had their own failures matching what brought down the Han Dynasty.

[@tuanskywalker8240]

The lesson learned here: Never fight the enemy that only have 1/10 of your grand army lol

[@bestpriest2224]

Damn. That was a touching one.

[@thegatorhator6822]

For once "thanks for the money, dummies" was part of the lore.

[@RyanKing00]

IRL version of letting your friend claim a bounty

[@nono9543]

These videos make me proud to be Chinese

[@shinybreloom4027]

there's a term called 生死之交的兄弟 "Sworn brothers until death" which works here imo

[@biggusdiccus6969]

心死 dead heart？生死？

[@shinybreloom4027]

@@biggusdiccus6969 yeah typo my bad thank you

[@shinsenshogun900]

I like how Five Dynasties-Ten Kingdom + Song dynasty era culture gets to dictate what relationships in ancient China is

[@realdy]

One of the iconic part is that many historical people takes part of idol worshipping in East Asian religions. In Taoism they worship Warlord Xiang Yu and General Guan Yu as the God of war. In Buddhism, Alexander the Great is called Idaten, the God who protects monastic sects. Japanese Shinto worships Tokugawa Ieyasu(1st shogun of Tokugawa shugunate). Korean Muism worships Admiral Yi Sunshin as their ancestor God.

[@locngoduy1571]

Least honorable Chinese warrior:

[@overlordmgcover2262]

I wasn't prepared for the emotional twist.

[@justinian536]

finally xiang yu gets a video about him

[@slayeroffurries1115]

Chinese lore is crazier than video game lore

[@ccfffvbbbbbffg1774]

And I thought that one guy in English medieval times who defended a bridge from an opposing army by himself until he got stabbed by a guy who floated under the bridge in a barrel was cool.

[@qingxuanyue]

bruh that guy was badass aswell they had to cheat to beat him

[@STORYSEEKER1]

Xiang You was a real g

[@MrLolx2u]

Ah yes... The Chu-Han Contention. The later betrayal of Liu Bang/Emperor Gaozu against the one who truly built his empire, Han Xin, was real treacherous if you go and read it up. Also, there's this saying in Chinese called "四面楚歌", "The Four Walls of the Song of Chu" in direct translation. So what was reported was that during the Battle of Gaixia, Xiang Yu was on the back foot after losing battles after battles and by the time that he was trapped in there, he had lost about 100,000 men already and had only 100,000 men against Han's 300,000 strong army. Whilst being besieged by all sides with Liu Bang, Han Xin and Peng Yue taking each sides, Chu forces were surrounded and with constant prodding attacks, Chu lost more men and the longer the siege, the lesser supplies they had and morale dropped. Han Xin felt that it wasn't worth it to send men in and attack the walls and throw more men thus he sent out notes to every soldier to sing as loudly, in unison, songs from the state of Chu during the middle of the night. At the strike of midnight, the whole Han army that surrounded Gaixia started singing those songs and it hits deep into the valley and it shook Xiang Yu's camp as it gave them the feeling of home and with the fatigue kicking in due to the lack of sleep from the loud singing, many started to feel paranoia kicking in that they had lost their homeland and started to panic, thinking of ways to defect. Some were executed for defection and a riot nearly broke out at the gates but soon, the writing was on the wall as more and more troops wanted to break out and surrender. Xiang Yu had enough of it and lost control of the situation and many did in fact defect towards the Han.

[@zizonesol]

ah the OG Gigachad. Conquered all of China only to lose it couple months later and yolo'd to his death

[@zapdog_]

I swear, ancient Chinese history is some of the most gangster shit I have ever seen

[@Broskisunited]

Japanese history is like this too I watched a video where there was 2 Samurais who were very good friends and trained together but then they were attacked and one of them said he would commit a Japanese form of suicide so the other guy gets all the honor so while he did that the other guy fought wave after wave on a bridge before dying

[@oweyodemassager]

What's the videos name dude?

[@thanhle-vj2qp]

Xiangyu : " I die but my best friend gets the money , I see this as a win " . Homie forever !

[@frds_skce]

Bro, it's Xiang Yu. *He ain't gonna die unless he want to*

[@N1GHTSTRIKER-45]

Normie Friendships Belike: Let's Be Friends Forever And Always Have Each Other's Backs (Does A The Complete Opposite) Chinese Friendships:

[@stonemanofgardnerville1162]

Saw his friend amongst the dead and went fuck it my way after killing 100 men....truly the crazy bastard we all strive to be

[@canaldecasta]

When Xiang Yu committed minecraft: ROCK AND STONE!

[@MrLuisfrossi]

It’s enough to make an grown man cry!

[@m.a.9571]

Loved the Kingdom manga you put in there lol

[@DMingThoughts]

I was not ready for "WE'RE RICH!" in the end.

[@ninjaknight6715]

Western Conflicts be like: Army A outmaneuvered Army B Chinese Conflicts be like: So basically me and my boys rounded up like 1 million soldier, to fight the enemies 1 billion. But we got some smart dude who managed to make it even somehow. Oh and I pretty much solo'd like 1 thousand guys before losing my eye.

[@MrStupidarmy]

Liu Bang was backstabbing his own general later on. He kinda chill leader for peasants but dick to his own military.

[@scarymonster5541]

Well liu bang was a peasant before he became an emperor

[@dziku2222]

Well, to be honest the guy killed most of his companions/generals/ministers that get him into the power position in later years of his life. Typical chinese stuff.

[@Thecognoscenti_1]

My ancestor, 彭越, was one such victim, he was accused of treason and executed. His corpse was then subsequently minced up and the Han Dynasty 's leading noblemen were forced to cannibalise his remains lol

[@dziku2222]

@@Thecognoscenti_1 Wow, that's pretty interesting. What's up with Han ministers being forced to eat they fellow politicians? I remember something similar from Three Kingdoms era. Also, isn't calling a guy living 2100 years ago your ancestor a bit of a stretch? :P Who keeps family records that long.

[@MrStupidarmy]

Also his wife was crazy sadist MF. She torture one of the mistress into "Human swine".

[@masterseal0418]

If the Fire Emblem Blazing Sword commercial taught me anything related to this story adapted into one Dynasty Warriors game, "Trust nobody!"

[@XoLiTlz]

After Xiang Yu's death, Western Chu surrendered and China was united under Liu Bang's rule, marking the victory of the Han dynasty. Liu Bang held a grand state funeral for Xiang Yu in Gucheng (穀城; in Dongping County, Tai'an, Shandong), with the ceremony befitting Xiang's title "Duke of Lu". Xiang Yu's relatives were spared from death, including Xiang Bo, who saved Liu Bang's life at Hong Gate, and they were granted marquis titles. Liu Bang was a rather nice emperor.

[@tristangabrielo]

Back then when war was epic, nowadays everyone just hide and press a bottom till there’s nothing left

[@igormarins1227]

Chinese history is just a blast of testosterone and dark humor.

[@bartholomew5101]

Love the Kingdom Manga panels!

[@r8sly]

Wait till you hear that the one who put the bounty on his head is also an old friend of his...

[@KiwiImpactSaint]

Xiang Yu had been forever remembered in Chinese culture as “The Hegemon”.

[@VBoo459]

I still can’t fathom how they had this much energy tbh.