Chinese J-20 Mighty Dragon Vs F-16 Viper | Digital Combat Simulator | DCS |

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

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[@numberyellow]

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[@CivisMilitarum]

He wasn't dead. He just got the ejection seat off temu.

[@Orca19904]

Or Wish, since he wished it would've worked.

[@CivisMilitarum]

@@Orca19904 Ooooo!!!! 🤣

[@markymarknj]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@marcofava]

This man could take one the Millennium Falcon flying a Hot Air Baloon and still have a decent chance of coming out on top

[@drowsylettuce3031]

Star destroyer vs mobility scooter with wings is a fair fight for him

[@dissent9959]

Don’t you mean the Millennium Viper?

[@alexrator7674]

bro can dogfight a F-22 with a bomber and win

[@GaionSputro]

Try a kite.

[@Karackal]

To be fair, a hot air balloon is hard to beat in the one-circle.

[@personM4N]

J-20: I am a missile truck. Prolly should avoid the merge Viper, merging with 3 bags: hold my beer

[@mikeyplayzwrld]

It doesn’t even look like a missile truck aerodynamically though?

[@JAEUFM]

Beer in one of the bags, do not have to hand it off?

[@xv6701]

@@mikeyplayzwrld it’s more of a missile forklift.

[@forzaelite1248]

​@@mikeyplayzwrld It's somewhat boxy for straight line drag reduction at high speed and altitude with canards, large wings, and twin engines. Missile trucking might be a little much but it's definitely a high alt air to air fighter

[@thorstenkurafeiski1845]

After watching a few videos I came to the conclusion that BVR missiles are easy to defend and work best in visible range. Is that a DCS thing?

[@troyshilanski380]

1993 i was honorably discharged from the navy. Doom came out and f 16 falcon. What a time.

[@Nightwing01010]

F16 was 1978...

[@subliminal1284]

@@Nightwing01010 Hes talking about the old F-16 Sim, Falcon....

[@GaionSputro]

​@@Nightwing01010 The falcon one.

[@danaolsongaming]

And to think in just 4 years, the F-22 would make its first flight. Fucking wild considering how good it is.

[@hihosilvuh9438]

Drinking and fighting?

[@flashrufa6306]

Your combat awareness is unreal. Smooth operator as always

[@firebald2915]

Yeah, his recall awareness is what wins his fights. Speed is life in this bird.... with three bags. hahaha

[@flashrufa6306]

@@firebald2915 100%. Great minds think alike

[@Jst4vdeos]

Hard not to love the 50yr old F16

[@bjammin187]

Day 1 of thanking GS for his excellent content, and not demanding what I want instead.

[@BilobateDrip]

👏 finally, a mature one of these 😊 You'd think people would still know how to entertain themselves. 🤷‍♂️

[@static79]

Hell yeah brother.

[@NoneyoBisniss]

Reality matters.

[@rinzler9775]

Bam.

[@ltjjenkins]

Day 6842 of asking paper airplane V. A-10.

[@biohazard7785]

That PL-15 flying formation with you 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@numberyellow]

"lemme just blast over this ship" And in that moment, everyone onboard instantly shit their pants.

[@RonJeremy514]

They were probably cheering on the deck at first seeing the F-16 coming closer then this happened.

[@numberyellow]

@@RonJeremy514 lol, never meet your heroes.

[@origamichik3n]

"Negative, Ghost Rider, the pattern is full".

[@Jason-pi4ws]

Since I discovered this channel its been a great way to watch DCS while not being able to play to this extent, I'm going to go out on a limb and ask if a video of the F/A 18 vs a J-20 would be feasible. BVR or Fox-2 fight would be cool.

[@UchihaPercy]

I think I noticed something at 12:33 - 12:35. While you two were in the merger and you dropped the tanks, he got a missile off. I think the missile either locked onto the chaff or the ejected tanks.

[@Mav09]

F/A-18E/F vs F-35C (Fox-2 fight) would be epic to see! Navy vs Navy : Old vs New Day 40

[@jaconbits]

The Rhino would smoke the F-35. The F-35 is like a slightly shittier F-16, so it doesn't turn well.

[@Mcree114]

@@jaconbits Yeah. Fat Amy isn't meant to merge, she smokes the F/A-18 in BVR of course.

[@mikeyplayzwrld]

F35 is good for one turn. Better AoA than the hornet, for the first turn only. Then it loses its speed, can’t gain it back, and gets smoked.

[@Mav09]

@@jaconbits US Marine Corps Maj. Dan Flatley- "If I went out and fought an F/A-18 on day one I’d get destroyed," said Flatley. "But if you do what the jet is really good at, you can do things those other jets wouldn’t dream of." I believe that the F-35C would have a great chance of winning. In GS's most recent F-35 video it got a 2:1 kill ratio on a MiG-29 (The MiG-29 has maneuverability comparable to a Hornet). Plus, F-35 pilots say it can point its nose at the enemy as well or better than the Hornet.

[@Mav09]

@@mikeyplayzwrld yes but the F-35 does have excellent acceleration. Even better than the F-22…

[@katherineberger6329]

Thank you for all this quality content! It would make me happy if you would do an F-16 video with the fin flash of the 179th Fighter Squadron (Bulldogs) out of Duluth Air National Guard Station, Minnesota.

[@TheHXCfrog]

Are you fighting the J20 with bags on? Okay you dropped them. Dude you are a legend.

[@peterweicker77]

The island and the ship gave a clearer sense of where everyone was as this thing unfolded.

[@humansvd3269]

The purpose of the J20 is to get close to critical aircraft such as Air Refuellers, AWACS, and other critical assets. It's not meant to be a dog fighter since it lacks a gun. That's what the J15 Flying Sharks are for.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

correct its not intended to dogfight but it certainly is expected to BVR fighters, not just get close to awacs and tankers.

[@arafat2924]

"close" being a relative term here

[@jamegumb7298]

Stealth is also supposedly only good from the frontal arc. It is expected to get close, fire, not get away.

[@JohnBlutarski]

​@@jamegumb7298Not get away? That's a bummer for the pilot

[@Gongolongo]

That is actually a myth by those who don't know much about aircraft and assume so simply by estimated size. We only confirmed a couple years ago that it is in fact smaller than a Flanker when we thought it was bigger for the first several years. Aerodynamic models have estimated that the J-20 can in fact be incredibly agile with excellent nose control (we wouldn't know unless we have the real thing). Dog fighting is not it's primary role but it is an air superiority fighter. It isn't an "interceptor" or "sniper" that civilians in the West have coined for it. Lectures in Chinese military academies have all clearly presented the J-20 to be used as an air superiority fighter. Otherwise, it wouldn't have internal PL-10 bays.

[@0MoTheG]

That is the thing with stealth: A larger radar will see the aircraft and a modern SAM will not have to guide the missile all the way. A modern radar guided missile should not be hindered by flying in ground clutter as there will be enough doppler signal. Stealth will help against the missile homing but only at select angles.

[@JohnBlutarski]

Is that also the case for US stealth jets like F22 and F35?

[@randypetitmaitre2841]

It’s crazy how plane v plane fight from 1939 to now is so insanely different apart from each other it’s such a crazy leap when you seat to think about it

[@Ruteger100]

the J-20 shall now be called the "scary squirrel".

[@greatBLT]

J-20 Kooky Dragon

[@rexmann1984]

I've always liked Fwaming Dwagon.

[@Ruteger100]

@@rexmann1984 You get an "A".

[@apbtdad]

J-20 Paper Dragon going down in flames

[@RonJeremy514]

Winnie's Toy.

[@fluffskunk]

A Chinese missile hitting a neutral civilian ship would not help China secure allies, though.

[@puddingspy9837]

clenching my arm when that PL-12 was so close on your tail

[@ian_lewono]

What's up with the funny loops the smoke trails from the patriot is making?

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

I have no idea, it’s new though.

[@giovannyc.1724]

​@@GrowlingSidewinder Turbulent wind distorting the smoke? Is this modeled in DCS?

[@itsdokko2990]

idk...uh..self-stabilization maybe?

[@RonJeremy514]

It's made just for that, to look funny and cool to raise the operator's morale.

[@Neptune_Gaming]

Patriot has a bit of hangover from last night that's all

[@jasonvick55]

You had a 50/50 shot when that PL-15 was chasing you. If you would’ve banked left then that F16 would most likely be in the ocean..lol!

[@EDCandLace]

Ain't no way wjth them delta wings that the j20 is gonna maintain energy. Like you said, one good turn and that's it.

[@mikeyplayzwrld]

Guy called Fly-by-wire, G-Limiter, and Fox 2 missiles:

[@__-vb3ht]

What are the characteristics that allow a plane to maintain energy? I have heard people talk about that with WWII fighters, how some are better at maintaining energy than others etc., but I never heard why that is

[@_cyantist]

where do people get the idea that delta wings = lose energy?

[@itsdokko2990]

@@__-vb3ht Real Engineering's video of the F-16 might answer what you're asking

[@__-vb3ht]

@@itsdokko2990 cool i'll check it out

[@worldbreaker1023]

Very stylish triple tank drop, in the middle of a one-circle too! I can't process that much detail once I'm in a fight. One day though 😢

[@nathanmeyer2470]

This is the captain of the U.S. blew my windows out and nearly got me hit by a missile!!! Lol

[@drizzd1]

would love to see J-20 vs F-15 in BVR

[@Overneed-Belkan-Witch]

Done already

[@Olabruh]

Just like how everyone is the same height on the mat in wrestling (unless you are bryan danielson or shibata), Everyone has the same odds in a merge in a dogfight (unless you are an f22 or su 57 😂)

[@eliomarlacerda2364]

DCS is funny. It's easy to detect and lock on a J-20 than on a F-15

[@HailAzathoth]

Is that actually funny though?

[@eliomarlacerda2364]

@@HailAzathoth i was been sarcastic

[@Kyle_Farmer]

Ahh man a POV from the ship when you shot off the fox 3 woulda been legendary

[@inquisitorbacon8170]

I imagine that ship captain understood the frustration of the flight tower of any base that Maverick was at.

[@tou-la]

That was a very cool fight. It seemed like a very tech book fight by the F-16.

[@HavalinaSSUSMC]

One of the first toys I remember as a kid was a bicentennial F-16. The F-16 is still my favorite plane.

[@maleprincess62]

Hell of a fight, i love the bvr content, been missing it recently

[@ACTIVEBOMB97]

Hey GS just wanted to say I love the guns only stuff! But I feel like the F-16 is the perfect contender for the SU-47 Berkut. The F-16 being intentionally unstable and the Berkut being a good at slow speed... Should be a good match for both! 😁

[@adey88splace]

"Probably coming over here..." Nicely put.

[@Nathan-vt1jz]

It’s interesting how the SU-30 was so much more difficult a fight than the J-20. Mostly due to missile and radar range.

[@traviswalker8933]

The Su-30 can also dogfight pretty well and shred the F-16 which the J-20 cannot do.

[@bradj6985]

Having that Patriot taking pot shots didn't hurt either :D

[@originalcolor]

​@@traviswalker8933 The thrust-weight ratio of Su30SM is even lower than the original Su27.

[@traviswalker8933]

@@originalcolor and? That doesn't make it a poor performer. I know you're a US fighter jet fanboy but please, give credit where its due. And fix your spelling while you're at it.

[@VeXu666]

​@@traviswalker8933 statistically migs and su's suck compared to US fighter plane. Todays US fighter planes are far too stealthy and advaced that russians couldn't stand a chance.

[@ostrich00]

Fun Fact: the NATO designation for the J20 is the Fagin: a villainous old man who trains and uses young boys as thieves. Damn, that's so appropriate 🤣

[@willfultrain6779]

When you said something about the J-20 having a lot of flares, I thought to myself "well yeah the chinese did invent the firework" lmao

[@WinVisten]

13:44 "Splash one J-20"... *LITERALLY.*

[@brushwolf]

I've heard the J-20 is fulled by a Mr. Fusion energy reactor.

[@amorosogombe9650]

F-16. 50 yo grandpa still kicking upitty yobs in the backside. Very well thought through aircraft to be still doing that, albeit with upgrades, all these decades later. Sign of superb engineering.

[@sp00f64]

Overall, the F-16 has impressed me the most, and as you pointed out, it always excels at a majority of mission sets and built to be a dog fighter and does it well. If I had to pick one, it would be the F-16. But, if I didn't have to pick, I love them all, quirks and all. ;-)

[@Orca19904]

This matchup reminds me of the early-model F-4 Phantoms vs the MiG-21 over Vietnam; if the MiGs could close to dogfighting range of the Phantoms, they had all the advantage since they had guns and the F-4's didn't, just like how the F-16 has a gun and the J-20 doesn't. Both the early Phantoms and the J-20 were meant to be missile trucks, not dogfighters.

[@murph3194]

7:04 I was just waiting for him to look back after saying that and seeing smoke and fire from that poor civilian ship. LOL

[@gundamblade]

Gotta love the flyby on the chinese tanker. No wonder your ears were burning from all the chinese cursing at u😂

[@blankiitog2747]

Remember that the j20 is a " awacs killer" not really a fighter for the f22

[@MATITIE]

The American victory method, using F16 to defeat China's J-20 in DCS, is like using F15 to defeat SU57 in Top Gun, we Americans really love to watch these shows

[@dhooter]

Imagine what it’s like to be on that ship with a ballistic F16 going over at 100ft. Good god lol

[@hermanlopez2945]

That middle view was crazy

[@santiagosepulveda5228]

This could be plausible in about 10 years. Greetings from Argentina my brother!!!

[@Vsor]

more like 10 months lol.

[@santiagosepulveda5228]

@@Vsor 🤣🤣🤣I hope not!!!

[@khoatran-sv7je]

We need a J20 vs YF23 @GrowlingSidewinder!

[@notoriousl.a.d2427]

Man I really want to see you fly the f111 advark

[@bunoo9549]

Lol..I was screaming at you to drop tanks!

[@filozofxd5214]

F16 with those external fuel tanks under the wings is the sexiest plane in the world

[@dvaritek434]

F-16 supersonic at 50 feet with 3 bags 2 ammies and a couple of sides. Crazy how fast that thing is.

[@spider_corsa]

@6:40 reminds me for the movie: Blue Thunder when a fox2 just led into a kitchen of a fastfood restaurant (nobody hurts tho) :)

[@kyle.1442]

Day 18. The taxpayers want to see just how good the F22 really is. It’s time $150mil vs $150mil, one Raptor vs a lot.

[@IMP-vi6je]

him: i'm at a disadvantage also him: 6:30

[@summergamers3070]

I was wondering if we were gonna see another UFO assist moment with that last PL-15 lol

[@pongo23597]

As much as people bully the J-20 I think in my opinion that it is a really cool looking aircraft with a unique design

[@Vxilz]

GS: J20 has stealth Also GS: immediately picks J20 up on radar

[@turbomach1]

J20 gave em the ole become a submarine to escape trick.

[@adrianpaz472]

GS makes the PL-15 look as ineffective as a Sparrow!

[@Michael-bd2py]

Tragic missed opportunity to drop your tanks on the tanker

[@c.o.6414]

aw man, now let’s see an F-18 versus the J-20!!

[@edwardlittle5686]

Nice work - my only critique is you dragged those empty tanks around for too long.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Agreed, not gonna lie I forgot about them lol

[@ivanthemadvandal8435]

Our boy's just trying to do us tax payers a solid and bring em back

[@muratbozkurt5967]

Hey GS, any reason why the pilots legs are suddenly visible in your videos?

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

I turned on the pilot model, it was recently added to the f16 by DCS

[@firebald2915]

Plus, the reclining ejection seat POV.

[@brandonmoisesblandonflores1483]

Flying in formation with that missile

[@BravoCheesecake]

Accidentally flies in formation with PL-15

[@beefybmw9532]

Like the new hoody Think… it’s not illegal yet

[@aaronhenderson8392]

Any F-111 options? That would be badass....

[@Orca19904]

Imagine him recreating the EF-111 maneuver kill from Desert Storm. :P

[@origamichik3n]

6:45 "GOD DAMMIT, MAVERICK!!!"

[@gearsofMEAT]

IDC if you're in a merge, don't go dropping my tanks.

[@TheArtofWarChina]

China J20 most recent updated statics published publicly has same if not smaller RCS than F22. China J20s were dispatched to intercept F22 in East China Sea recently. And they were missile locked on each others. (Real story told by Chinese pilots in an open interview).

[@SergeyPupkoMusic]

Flying in cormation with a missile for a few seconds there... 😂

[@markymarknj]

Video is starting, and I put my money on the J-20. It's a modern, 5th gen fighter, while the F-16 is an old design. Well, that didn't age well. GS nailed the J-20.

[@JamesHoes-zc7ok]

You are awesome dude

[@MississippiKid96]

Don’t you dare drive a pl 15 into a merchant vessel. -Merchant mariner or 10 years

[@jaejampro1]

That was in a word...INTENSE...

[@NATEDOG2024]

If the j20 has that much issues with a f16 than it’s gonna go through hell with a f22 or f35

[@The_Angry_BeEconomist]

F16 + Patriot

[@EdgeR2]

Gs was hugging his patriot, now try again with the j20 hanging around his s3/400 firing pl15 and gs needs to push

[@michaelj4009]

To be fair, those jets have trouble with the f16 as well.

[@rolanddeschain965]

Taiwan just showed the j20 to be a flying beacon in the sky.

[@Gingerbreadcat67]

Yo GS u should do j-20 vs f-16 dogfight just for fun it would be a interesting fight 😂

[@gunplajerk2591]

nice shout out to Sioux City!

[@daszieher]

This was one secret episode of Sh*TS and Giggles 😂

[@whirlwindeddie2124]

10:18 That thing is just vibin

[@cloudforest4087]

12:34 Patriot: "Get outta here I say."

[@muhammadazeem1346]

At this point GS can take out any aircraft with a Chinese Spy Balloon

[@ohger1]

Queston: what if the pilot goes for broke and fires all missiles one after the other, surely it would be very difficult to defend that kind of onslaught?

[@s87343jim]

If the enemy doesn't shoot anything at you and you can be close, sure. Otherwise, you will just be wasting missles.

[@ConnorPack610]

what do you think you would rather have in a fight. only an AWACS or only a SAM sight?

[@liammarra4003]

AWACS for sure.

[@zacharymesaris5497]

Do you happen to have a video out on graphics settings? your game always looks so smooth and crisp and I can't get it to look quite like that. Maybe because im mostly on public multiplayer servers? dunno.

[@BenParkes-wz5bd]

Video idea: I-16 vs Su-57 Felon

[@NighthawkSquadron]

Day 113 of asking for kf21 vs f22 dogfight

[@WashedMoble]

Admire the persistence

[@NoName-yl1js]

keep going you can do it

[@markbrunner7793]

What’s the hold-up with this request????🤔🤔🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

[@tikkyBee]

Day 365 will come soon 😅

[@ItsRileyNJ]

If he wanted to, he would have done it by now.

[@EvanWalker-rb7pw]

hey, if your system can handle it, could you do one massive engagement with the F-22 and F-35 VS J-20 and Su-57?

[@irinhart6024]

Would like to see the J20 vs the F35 same type of fight.

[@callumbush1]

When are we getting some Vought F-8 Crusader action?

[@Jesus_CHEUNG_TinFu]

I‘m not sure about the capability of how stealthy the J20 is, but at least it's seems that the Taiwan Army hasn't picked up a J20 yet after all these drills

[@BladeKi11a]

Still waiting for GS to drop the BF3 F-18 mission “Going Hunting”

[@jdschuncke]

love when a bvr gets to the merge