Supremely Outmatched | J-20 Mighty Dragon Vs F-14B Tomcat | Digital Combat Simulator | DCS |

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[@Anarchy_420]

Please fly The F-15STOL/MTD VS The SU-30SM Dogfight Please fly The F-15EX VS The MIG-31 BVR

[@Anarchy_420]

Imagine what you could do with The ST-21 Super Tomcat with AIM-152 GDW's ;)👍

[@numberyellow]

NGAD vs F-15 ACTIVE, dogfight, guns or missiles (or both) plzkthx SU-57 vs F-15 ACTIVE, dogfight, guns or missiles (or both) plzkthx SU-47 vs F-15 ACTIVE, dogfight, guns or missiles (or both) plzkthx SU-47 vs SU-57, dogfight, guns or missiles (or both) plzkthx SU-47 vs NGAD, dogfight, guns or missiles (or both) plzkthx

[@andrewnegron288]

Maverick would be proud of you for bringing that 5 gen. down in a 3++ gen. fighter. In the movie Maverick shoots down a Su-57 & you in DCS missile down a Dragon! , imagine if we had the F-21 how would the scenario be played out?

[@iuriius]

Please do Mirage-2000 Vs Su-35 🙏🙏

[@TR4Ajim]

Remember the Phoenix had a large warhead because it was designed to destroy Soviet bombers attacking the fleet- one hit, one kill!

[@ntal5859]

Mach 5 to hit a bomber, seems more like the MIG25 was the target. Besides Navy not exactly for intercepting a US land attack... think you got not a clue.

[@4FunCycle]

@@ntal5859 The Phoenix needed a long range to hit the Soviet Naval Aviation bombers before they could launch their cruise missiles at the carrier. Fighters were not a threat to the carrier due to their range and limited payload during it's design and initial production (1966). The F-14 was designed around the needs of the Phoenix it carried as a fleet air defense fighter. The Mig-25 was introduced to the Soviet Air Force in 1970. Four years after the Phoenix began production.

[@ferretapocalypse]

@@ntal5859uhhhh the only one without a clue is you lol. The Phoenix was most definitely designed to shoot down Soviet bombers

[@markbaumgartner7261]

​@@ferretapocalypse The Tomcat was built to shoot down the Bear bombers, and fleet defense. At the time, it was the only aircraft that could carry 6 Phoenix missles, until the Super Hornet , came out!

[@obliviouz]

Yeah - while the J-20 is designed for long range standoff engagements, the F-14 was designed to protect Carrier Battle Groups from Soviet anti-ship missiles *and* their fighter escorts. It completely counters the strengths of the J-20.

[@andresilvasophisma]

That J-20 was supremely outmatched. That thing eats Su-57s for breakfast, as per the documentary Top Gun Maverick.

[@fatherofalltrolls4748]

a tomcat, will be absolutely destroyed, in a real life scenario, its old

[@playingdoge7407]

@fatherofalltrolls4748 true true. However, we can't say anything about j20 yet, because we don't know it's full characteristics and capabilities yet

[@TheCobra114-o5e]

@@fatherofalltrolls4748a modernized tomcat would wipe the floor thi

[@user-sg8eh4qj4c]

J-20 is garbage compared with the SU-57.

[@Hadgerz]

@@fatherofalltrolls4748 it's not the plane. I T ' S T H E P I L O T

[@ArokhX]

Nitpick from a former ground crew member: Unless the fasteners on the forward control surface are reversed (Lefty tighty, righty loosey), then the safety wire is on backwards. Who's the crew chief!? Im gonna kick his butt.

[@michaellee8071]

What's the safety wire for?

[@midniteoyl8913]

@@michaellee8071 Safety wire is used to keep fasteners from backing out.

[@nercksrule]

I could see the fasteners on the avi panel being reverse threads, because electricians.

[@BenState]

@@nercksrule No photo i can find of real f14 pits show any lockwire, but yeah not correctly installed.

[@HAPPYFUNTIMEx2]

@ArokhX Thank you for servicing these beautiful birds 🫡

[@CarlazorTheFourth]

The all mighty galvanized steel dragon

[@nitesan2814]

🗣🗣🗣Galvanized square steel

[@icecreamman8163]

eco friendly wooden F14

[@trevorsmith2006]

You really think they went so far as to galvanize it?

[@ruffneck7993]

Hehehe

[@galvanizedsquaresteel86]

🥰🥰🥰

[@gj1234567899999]

Chinese General 1: this J-20 design is good, but it is still outmatched by 1980’s F14 Tomcats! Chinese General 2: sure, but US doesn’t field anymore F14s…

[@RT42069]

GS: steals one back from Iran

[@TheGoddamnBacon]

​@@RT42069... Then it's a dogfight.

[@markymarknj]

@@TheGoddamnBacon it's not the plane, it's the pilot!

[@FukaiRei27]

Don't think. Just do.

[@jameslockwood9426]

No we use RAPTORS NOW

[@jamesholden5664]

My father was one of the lead design engineers on the Phoenix. I was always proud of him for that.

[@Optimaloptimus]

I mean, I’m happy for you but I wish people stopped acting like it’s special.

[@fatherofalltrolls4748]

@@Optimaloptimus it is special if their family have lead engineer of the phoenix?

[@Optimaloptimus]

@@fatherofalltrolls4748 Not quite considering the missile bit off another program and the missile itself wasn’t very good either.

[@SamuraiCop]

That’s so cool!!

[@stab74]

@@Optimaloptimus Who hurt you? 🙄

[@aaronliddell4280]

The explosive weight of the AIM-54C is the same as 3 AMRAAM’s! Imagine getting hit by 3 at MACH 5 simultaneously! 😮

[@timonsolus]

The real advantage of the huge warhead is being able to get a kill with the detonation further away from the target.

[@baremetalmafia]

Yep, the Phoenix wasn’t as accurate as other missiles and had a large warhead to make up for it. Also to guarantee a kill on a bomber size target.

[@localracer]

KABOOM

[@jayjay53313]

However, AIM-54C is less maneuverable that it has its disadvantage against nimble enemy fighters compared to lighter AIM-120C/D.

[@Jack-xs2ki]

You seriously need to start playing the top gun theme at the end when you get kills in the F-14

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

I wish copyright wasn’t a thing loool

[@TheOtherGuys2]

I'm pretty sure when F-14s fly, they just have the Top Gun soundtrack built in. You know, like when you left the radio on in the car and it starts playing when you start the engine.

[@aryogono6338]

I wish Heatblur makes the F-14D Super Tomcat variant. That's the best F-14 variant IMO.

[@bryanwalthall5483]

Oh, yes! The Digital Tomcat. They really should do that variant.

[@ICommandingI]

Yeah, Im not sure what the F-14D was capable of, but im sure it would be good if heatblur added it.

[@WaterComputer]

Especially if we where able to get the aim-152s with it

[@MarkR32]

The D model also had an IRST system

[@paullywog2477]

Best in performance for sure, but I think the standard MFDs and typical glass plate HUD as opposed to the separate camera and radar screens, and the super distinctive projecting the HUD straight on the windshield loses so much character. Still a great plane, but not as distinctive interesting as the A and B variants IMO

[@benn454]

Phoenix-Charlie: Hello! Would you like to hear about our lord and savior, Raytheon? *BOOM*

[@kinch613]

Cant seem to think a redesigned modernized Tomcat wouldn’t be one helluva asset like the F-15EX. The new Eagle variant is essentially a missile truck augmenting 5thGen fighters and the same coupd exist for a upgraded Tomcat. Even though none are in active service and its a pipe dream, the reality is the F-14 was the greatest fleet defender in US Navy history.

[@budwyzer77]

The F-14's big problem was that the swing wings added a lot of maintenance hours.

[@velocitymg]

Hoping they would have kept a few and updated them into Growlers. Would have been helluva better than the crapass F18 growlers in use

[@delos2279]

F-15EX was only created to fill the USAF quota because F-35 production was behind schedule. Its massive RCS makes it more of a cruse missile truck than anything else. The F-14 is a beautiful aircraft but it would be worse in every way compared to the F-15EX which was already a highly questionable investment.

[@Vernonu9]

what in the Tom Cruise was this?

[@renatoigmed]

just your apprentice

[@Hot_Sky_Astronomy]

Timothy Roadtrip

[@SA80TAGE]

@@Hot_Sky_Astronomy Thomas Ferry.

[@Hot_Sky_Astronomy]

@@SA80TAGE Tony Ride

[@Ghazanfierce]

LMAO

[@robz2843]

WOW. That mighty dragon was mightily obliterated. 😂 Where was Jester's "Good kill !"

[@Magnus4096]

I'm a simple man. I see F-14 Tomcat, I click. Fantastic flying as per usual!

[@b.chuchlucious5471]

J-20 Flaming Dragon: You give us Tivo or Simple Jack die.

[@txoilfield]

"We don't negotiate with terrorists" --F-14 Tomcat

[@stephenhood2948]

That was Fwaming Dwagon, two completely different things. LOL Sweet Tropic Thunder reference!!

[@Gringo111R]

Great. Let me get this down. Tivo... Oh, wait! I got a better idea. Instead of a Tivo, how about I send you a hobo's Phoenix missile?

[@ZacharyEvansStarTrekfan]

God damn the irony here!😂😂😂

[@bass305-HCCA]

😂😂😂

[@njgrplr2007]

That beeping in the cockpit must have driven Tomcat pilots crazy. It sounds like a 1980s Arcade.

[@marcusking332]

It's an alarm that warns when the pilot is flying way to low, aka something that veteran Tomcat pilot would do.

[@polarbear2697]

That phoenix hit him so square, I'm pretty sure you sent him back a generation!

[@LtJohnnyRidden1]

He woke up in the Ming Dynasty

[@Moonstone-Redux]

Nine generations of his family just went DAYUUUUUM at his obliteration.

[@elfhighmage8240]

Dude, your skills are scary. I wouldn't want to fight you in the air, even if you were flying a Brewster F2A Buffalo!

[@Moonstone-Redux]

Dude's gonna channel the spirit of Finland's finest fighter pilots if he gets on a Brewster Buffalo.

[@quasimondo1933]

Supremely outmatched suggestion: MiG-29 vs F-22A

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Not bad at all sir.

[@Moonstone-Redux]

Someone's going to be frantically looking at the rear view mirrors.

[@eaglewatch0783]

"Anytime, Baby!" Good show as always

[@jaydeister9305]

Great video! Some hope in the unwavering faith of the F-14 Tomcat has been restored!

[@paulwollenzein-zn1lh]

It comes down to a pilot is a major factor in an air to air dogfight. Most good pilots can affect the outcome of their combats for a rather large percentage. But in a massive dogfight, this can drop off severely in a bad situation.

[@paulwollenzein-zn1lh]

Oops, try this for first sentence. It comes down to the pilot, who is a major factor in any dogfight.

[@knightblade0188]

@@paulwollenzein-zn1lhnot entirely true. 1 it’s a combination of the pilots training and the tech and 2 dogfighting doesn’t really happen anymore with the US at least not since Vietnam supposedly. Modern missiles and rockets just put range guns and the gap is growing.

[@barbaros99]

That tanker captain either needs to get a new route or start selling tickets.

[@SmilingCamperVan-dd8cb]

I knew the Tomcat could do it! Great fight, keep 'em coming.

[@AnnaCarrie-i2k]

Nothing ever goes away until it has taught us what we need to know.

[@GlenDiG1970]

Love the ‘Cat’ and have a special place in my heart for that aircraft!!! Great simulation here!

[@markralph4739]

These fights, though entertaining, get more and more unrealistic

[@Dipper737]

We went like this, he went like that. I said to Hollywood, "Where did he go?" Hollywood says, "Where did whoo gooo?"

[@MarcusPngersopp]

Although it wasn't a pot of gold, Nancy was still enthralled at what she found at the end of the rainbo

[@DominicDry]

Happiness is a Swedish sunset it is there for all, but most of us look the other way and lose it.

[@frenchroast1355]

That was beautiful, man! (Wipes tear from eye).

[@gusigb2677]

Me: "It's not the plane, it's the pi..." *GF slaps me* GF: "Don't be THAT guy!"

[@toolmakerbest1584]

You did the F14 proud! Great flying!

[@ChrisLincolnHomes]

It's not the plane Mav, it's the Pilot.

[@lcspells6005]

Out of all the DCS videos I watch here, you are absolutely the best.I wish you could teach me to do what you do in this sim. You are awesome

[@LizPeg-k8c]

Tomatoes make great weapons when water balloons aren’t available.

[@JS443]

F-14B wearing the markings of my former squadron in the Navy Fighter Sqd Two (VF-2 )(Bounty Hunters}

[@3v4761]

NICE GOING MAVERICK 👍

[@timbaskett6299]

Not sure it would be an "outmatched video" but I would like to see the F-4E vs. the MiG-29. BVR, and dogfight would be amazing.

[@LesterCofeyt]

The tortoise jumped into the lake with dreams of becoming a sea turtle.

[@1bskemp]

That missile's a Bear killer.

[@jameslockwood9426]

That missile is also a dragon killer also😅😅😅😅

[@ericgaudet5488]

Glad to see you using the F14 B Tomcat in this video. Great job with the Kill of that J-20 Mighty Dragon fighter.

[@GM-fh5jp]

Chinese warship captain: We lost a J20 in combat...go get the wreckage and pilot. Rescue chopper pilot: Sir, there's no wreckage and no pilot...only scraps of metal and a shredded Mae West survived.

[@thedeejlam]

In Asia it's a Mai East ;-)

[@GM-fh5jp]

@@thedeejlam They probably spin anti- clockwise on the way down too ;)

[@kerbodynamicx472]

This is what happens when you put triple the explosives into a missile

[@GM-fh5jp]

@@kerbodynamicx472 A bit like shooting a HumVee with a tank round :/

[@PizzaBananaSplit]

Who is it outmatched for?

[@TheGoddamnBacon]

The one who added pineapple on it.

[@ohger1]

The F-14 hasn't been upgraded. The J-20 is a 5th gen aircraft. Whether it's as good as this sim is something we don't really know.

[@tuunaes]

I was wondering the same with F-14 having that big powerfull radar and big long stick.

[@rangerrick8220]

Well done! Proudly paint that J-20 on the hull of the Tomcat! Show the young-uns it CAN be done!

[@alpenfoxvideo7255]

The Tomcat in DCS is so cool because it has this unique ability of being an airborne SA-10

[@mikesheehan4470]

Going left to evade the missile. This guy knows a few maneuvers

[@Pkuchnir]

You didn’t buzz the tower?!

[@toddcarter1086]

Just wondering: Even though shooting at the J-20 demanded a shorter range, could you "see" the Chinese AWACS at a manageable range for the Phoenix to hit it? Just wondering how Mr. J-20 would feel if his AWACS got smoked from 85-90 miles leaving him without that data backstop? Great video!

[@OtterTreySSArmy]

I'm also kinda wondering why he didn't smoke the AWACS either. He's got the range to take it out which would have allowed him to close much quicker but idk

[@ret7army]

I did not expect GS to pull that off

[@andersjjensen]

I think the J-20 pilot was relying way too much on getting him close to the S-300. He should have tried luring him out to open sea and maneuvering the Tomcat into a sandwich position between the J-20 and the S-300.

[@Sparkslinger-yl2gr]

Man you are a monster! Great Vid! had me on the edge of my seat the whole time and then, YEAH!!👊

[@MGAFFY]

4:02 it's okay, China's Soviet Era aircraft carriers are more impressive and more capable than their 2020's aircraft carrier.

[@nathantw]

That kill only cost $6 million dollars with each million dollar Phoenix missile launch. LOL Great flying.

[@brianfoster7064]

I love the paint Scheme on the F-14. It's very reminiscent of VF-2's color paint scheme From when I was in the Navy even 1985 to 1988,aboard the USS Ranger. The only thing that's missing is the Headhunters logo. I was ship's company and I miss those days.

[@mxcollin95]

Dude you the best DCS sim videos! They’re dope! 🤙

[@madfoxlabs3436]

Eow, F-14 still has some cards to play, Nice Win.

[@DemitriVladMaximov]

"Highway to the DANGERZONE!!!"

[@user-sg8eh4qj4c]

" It's not about the plane Mav... it's the pilot. "

[@jamlarna]

I love the tomcat so much ❤ man if only there was a way we could still have a few of these for old time sake 🙌🏼

[@rolandlee6898]

The warhead weight is not the weight of the HE content. The majority of the weight is pre-formed fragmentation, and the weight refers to the total weight of that section of the missile. In actual fact you are dealing with a few pounds of explosive in any case.

[@Anarchy_420]

Please fly The F-4 VS The A-4 guns only Please fly The Rafale VS The Typhoon guns only

[@ddrhero]

That was like hopping off a roof to punch someone in the jaw

[@XTXImperator]

I did not expect the F-14 to dominate in the battle so hard. The J-20's stealth and missiles really underperformed hard. I am curious now, put the F-14 against the SU-30SM and SU-57 like you did with the F-16.

[@anonymousdevildog1406]

Damn great video... loved this.

[@Anarchy_420]

Please fly Planes on the left guns only-- AV-8B VS F-35B KF21 VS J-35 J-10 VS SU-27 MIG-29K VS SU-33 SU-75 VS SU-57 J-35 VS J-20 MIG-35 VS SU-35 MB-339 Aermacchi VS MIG-15

[@Anarchy_420]

Lol for The AV-8B VS F-35B fight I'd love to see VTOL merge😆🙏👍

[@herbertbass9027]

The F-14 is & will always be a beautiful looking jet

[@fidem15893]

Great MAR engagement. Great video! 👍

[@sauronthemighty3985]

I really want to see a strike mission in the tomcat to show off its multirole capabilities.

[@kachint1905]

Please bring us around to the fight of AIM-54 v/s R-37 M 🎉🎉 between HYPERSONIC Contestants with SUPER SONIC flights

[@vidmaniacz]

Gonna call that impact the phoenix punch, shame it wasn't called the falcon

[@Leonhart306]

Why is there string around the master control panel? I don't remember seeing that there before. What purpose does it serve?

[@richieismyhero]

The VF2 Bounty Hunter's colour scheme is awesome. Great video, as always. Tomcats!

[@Atomized997]

Whoever loves the F-22 raptor like

[@mspionage1743]

The F14 has always been a very pretty jet.

[@willischang6956]

I’m not sure but, if I’m not mistaken, the AIM 54 Phoenix was to shoot down enemy bombers as well as a fleet defender.

[@uberschnilthegreat22]

Yes, its primary purpose was the destuction of Soviet bombers and / or their cruise missiles before they could threaten the Fleet

[@SGTH11b0811]

It seems the J-20 should be called Fat Amy....seems more applicable than the F35

[@kbaer3038]

It's not the plane. It's the pilot. EXACTLY!!

[@anandnairkollam]

When doomsday comes, you know which plane to rely in - F-14!

[@noneOfYourBusinessDotCom]

Take it to the max!

[@rickweaver1481]

Nicely done!! I wonder how she'd hold up with a gun's Only or fox one fight. Sure those variable wings will help with the guns only.

[@tba113]

The Tomcat is such a gorgeous plane.

[@thesheepthemightythecrazy]

Is this the feel good channel? It is.

[@skyhorseprice6591]

The _Tomcat!_ 🤟💥💥🤟 Yea it was hell on maintenance with too many moving parts, but at the end of the day that jet was never anything but a wicked, fearsome opponent!

[@andrewmorke]

I'm surprised the open, flat ocean still created enough clutter to confuse the PL-15.

[@WWBLGCY]

We need to see more scenarios of these two clashing!

[@S.Madman]

Tactics, Tech, and Tom Cruise balls. That is all it takes to take down a 5th gen on an F-14.

[@ml1754]

So what you're saying is you'd be dead in a hornet but in the Tom....rock star

[@nsr-ints]

"It's not the plane, it's the pilot."

[@russell7852]

Too be fair the J20 is barely a 4.5 Gen made using stolen IP The PLAAF and PLAN are still in for a streep learning curve

[@Lee-sti8wrx]

That was insane and I can't believe you smaked a J-20 in the face using the kick ass F-14. Great Chinese engineering, lol. Go western tech. Love your channel bro.

[@edwardpate6128]

Give credit to the awesome AN/AWG-9 radar as well which was designed hand in hand to work with the Phoenix.

[@Venom22250]

The Tomcat looking at the J-20 using an S300 to TRY and kill it: “Pathetic.” (Think ‘ The Simpsons’ Principal Skinner meme)

[@diamondthree]

MAXREED in the J-20 when he sees that unmistakably large missile contrail tracking him up close: "Haha, I'm in danger."

[@Venom22250]

@@diamondthree and then it’s the Sully “MMMM” meme when it impacts

[@jackjetpilot]

That was awesome!!! I was screaming!

[@kodefashmodefa]

Yeah I’d say this is the most accurate thing we’ll get to see, j20 dragging opponent over its own SAMs and still getting poofed into Temu particulates.

[@HobkinBoi]

I wish they kept the tomcat in service lol, it could've used some avionic upgrades and stuff, but it's still a very capable plane especially for standoff. Better missiles would help too, imagine if the phoenix had an even better seeker.

[@cm22454]

It's not the plane. It's the pilot.

[@DavidELD]

It's not the plane, it's the pilot.

[@ntal5859]

GS was mistaken by the PL15 hitting the water, it wasn't locked onto him but a US attack sub.

[@johnmorales9584]

Always love the music here. It goes so well.