Chinookan Plank Houses - Native American Domestic Architecture & Culture

[@ThisisBarris]

Thank you for bringing the Chinook to attention - it's a really important issue and frankly, quite ridiculous. It may not seem that important, but there are a lot of limitations that arises from trying to promote your Native American culture if you're not federally recognized (even though numerous states recognize the Chinook people) - for example, Chinook people who depend on selling traditional Native American art can no longer call it "Native American art" since they aren't recognized. And of course, great video my friend!

[@StefanMilo]

Yeah it's very sad and absolutely ridiculous. The chinook have lived here for thousands of years. It's insane that they can be denied recognition. I'm going to be doing more videos on them in the future.

[@ThisisBarris]

Sounds good - it's great that you give them an audience and I really look forward to these next videos Cheers

[@extremenature9190]

Not trying to be prejudice in any way but at my school they push African American culture like racism is still going on I’m not saying it isn’t but I wish my school would focus on the First Nations people because they are going though many problems nowadays more so than an average native American especially with culture awareness

[@Madskills-hw2ox]

Seems every culture on this planet is slowly being stripped away, especially our rights and freedoms through laws.

[@davidford694]

Too bad you didn't stay with the British, the first Europeans on the scene, and vastly more settled than the few Americans on the scene when the place was handed over to them. While the British record was far from perfect, they did treat First Nations rather better that the Americans. Read about the Hudson's Bay Company chief factor, Dr. John McLaughlin. Pretty decent chap. His wife was half native, and my several greats aunt.

[@ladyofthemasque]

Technically the Chinook peoples and many others in the region did cultivate a number of crops, including berry patches, nut orchards, vast fields of root crops, and more. This included relatively frequent undergrowth burning to make sure that unwanted crops did not out-compete the wanted crops. It just wasn't agriculture being done in a visibly Eurasian model, since the coastal peoples of Oregon, Washington, and British Columbia areas were more inclined to work with what was already there--working with nature, rather than imposing artificial order upon nature.

[@mrbaab5932]

You mean Afro-Eurasian.

[@mrbaab5932]

You mean Afro-Eurasian.

[@EnCounterCultureMedia]

​@mrbaab5932 its not a native thing though. Yes this was most common among the indigenous peoples of australia and the americas and places like the pacific islands but that doesnt mean no one else did it. All three of the continents you named are home to some cultures who did similar practices of sustainability in hunting fishing and agriculture these include people like the sami in europe, groups like the buryats, chuchki and yupik in asia (in russia but not the european part) tons of groups in africa like the san bushmen. Its only a native amaerican thing in most peoples minds because it was so widespread in its application and so heavily engrained in their cultures and philosophies so people hear and are exposed to it more

[@connerworrell5774]

Ive heard the coast used to be lush with native berries and flowers. Now its all European dune grass that has completely killed and taken it all over

[@faeriegirl42013]

As a Clatsop, one of the neighboring tribes who is also unrecognized I thank you for bringing attention to the lack of recognized status… and giving some great information about how our family homes used to work.

[@seeharvester]

Funny, you don't look Indian.

[@faeriegirl42013]

@@seeharvester funny, your comment is unnecessary. Do you have something to contribute about the video? Or about the lack of representation for tribes who didn’t have ratified treaties?

[@deandeann1541]

@@faeriegirl42013 You look native to me - but I have spent some time in SE AK with Haida and Tlingit people. I suspect Seeharvester did not realize that many people die their hair.

[@war5561]

Hope you enjoyed the beautiful PNW. I didn’t realize that the Chinook were NOT a federally recognized tribe! That seems crazy to me, as we have so many things named after them, it’s obvious they have a rich and long standing history.

[@inoshikachokonoyarobakayar2493]

I know right? They can a name huge military transport helicopter after them, but according to the government, they aren't a real tribe. SMH

[@arthas640]

Pacific Northwest Native Americans had very unique building styles, especially when it comes to things like houses and clothing. They would often wear clothes made from cedar bark due to all the rain here.

[@steveschilt7942]

Thank you I'm part Chinook, I had a grandmother born the year Lewis and Clark was there.

[@StefanMilo]

Wow that's incredible! Did she say much about life before the Europeans really arrived? Ever since moving to the USA from the UK I've really been fascinated by it's native past. In Britian we only really know about the groups that lived on the plains but the history and culture is so diverse and interesting.

[@steveschilt7942]

No she didn't speak to much about her history. I'm making flutes today and I'm going to start making the cedar boxes, that's going to be a challenge. LOL

[@deanfirnatine7814]

@@StefanMilo You should go to the Pow Wow at Grande Ronde (Spirit Mountain) I think that is the closes one that is regularly held around here

[@cameronfielder4955]

You mean you had a great great grandmother born that year. I’m not sure why Milo asked if she told you anything about the time before the Europeans, as you would have never met her and that was two hundred years ago.

[@wackywally69420]

@@StefanMiloits astonishing how little europeans know about america outside of whats portrayed in media i guess. i am part dunneza first nation and only found this out last year, they are undergoing cultural genocide and the language is nearly extinct!

[@HistoryTime]

Top marks for crouching. Liking the on-location style of this!

[@StefanMilo]

Ha! I'm going to start another channel, "Crouching tiger, hidden history". I'll travel the world squatting in famous places.

[@paultheaudaciousbradford6772]

@@StefanMilo You’re sitting in front of a green screen and projecting a photograph. You could be crouching anywhere in the world. But I don’t care. Your vids are fantastic whether you’re “really” on site or not.

[@seanbeadles7421]

@@paultheaudaciousbradford6772 who filmed a chinook plank house for stock footage I would like to ask?

[@ericbakuladavis]

@@paultheaudaciousbradford6772 I thought it was green screened too. Then I noticed he's sitting on a very small chair, which is mostly hidden by his right leg. The background is not a photograph because it moves.

[@trulsdirio]

Longhouses seem to be popular all over the world. Always interesting to see how the human mind comes up with similar things all over the world, even tho these places are isolated from another.

[@Nyctophora]

Very true, it reminded me of the Linearbandkeramik longhouses.

[@oldschoolman1444]

A practical use of resources and labor, makes sense it would be found in different cultures.

[@iammrbeat]

This was great. I love how you film on location. We all should do that more.

[@StefanMilo]

Thanks! Praise indeed coming from you.

[@sarahtaylor2201]

I'm so pleased you did an episode on the Plank House. I did three years of archaeology field school out at the Refuge (one year as a student, two as an assistant), and each year we took one day to enjoy presentations in the Plank House, where they talked about the techniques used to construct it, some of the Chinook history in the area, what life would have looked like inside this sort of dwelling, etc. I really love that area (though trying to work through the clouds of voracious mosquitoes was not my favorite)

[@jeffbreezee]

I grew up in south King County. I didn't know that those long houses existed. In school, we learned that West coastal tribes lived in long houses. But, the examples that I saw were just sticks and brush thrown together in an orderly manner. I've never seen one like this that involved so much carpentry skills for being prior to European contact. It's amazing!

[@HeardFromMeFirst]

Loving these little "Nuggets" of history, archeology, and anthropology. .well done Stefan. ..😊

[@tweaker1bms]

Is it possible to get a demonstration video of how they made the planks? Would actually be really cool to see a video of people making a full plank house using only traditional methods.

[@atomharris]

Chinook were well known as trading partners to the Tlingit Nation for at least 14,000 years.

[@arthurmcvey8231]

Greetings from the Lingit Aaní!

[@lewissmart7915]

It wasn't just that the natural resources were abundant. I think that these people carefully managed their environment to increase its yield and tailor its output to their needs. We tend to think of hunter gatherers as going out into a wilderness hoping to find something but I think they saw the whole world as a kind of farm or garden and generally knew exactly where a given food or resource would be.

[@suzimarima]

You're exactly correct. From the information that Chinook descendants have as well as other tribal descendants, the people cultivated the land not in the European idea of agriculture, but in their way. So, there were natural fields of tobacco and vegetables that they cultivated over the generations.

[@AhJodie]

Yes...just from walking around I know where many foods are at different times of year... And it is easy to seed places...I have done it in my yard.

[@suzimarima]

Thank you for this. I've been doing extensive research on the Chinook and actually purchased the book from UofW Press before coming across your video. Can't wait for it to come in! And I'm actually really annoyed that you keep getting corrected for your pronunciation. You have it correct. Of course you would. You were in and among their descendants, I'm sure, when you were filming this! For those who think Stefan is saying it wrong, he's not. The Chinook pronounce it *chih-nook* just as Stefan does.

[@sanityd1]

I really enjoy your channel man.

[@Drahko12]

Is interesting how cultures reach some level of convergence technology ending up in building similar things. And this was done without help from pack animals. they managed to sustain people living off the land successfully. Truly remarkable

[@vincentconti3633]

They must have had some kind of patience to live that close together!!! Gracias.

[@Crafty_Spirit]

Hi Stefan :-) Very recently I stumbled upon your channel through the Project Africa playlist. I am delighted by the diverse and undercovered topics you adress. Moreover, you ooze so much warmth and general niceness that it's pleasure to follow along your content 🖖🏾 Kind regards from Switzerland

[@lucasgruber8509]

I think an important distinction to be made is that the Chinook and the other tribes cultivated the natural abundance in the Americas. Tribes would proliferate plants useful to their survival such as those in California that grew cacti around their villages for protection. Another great example were the massive bison herds that tribes helped develop through methods such as prescribed burning.

[@bobcharlie2337]

Thanks for the links, and the one for the link for the book. Awesome video.

[@StefanMilo]

Thanks, there's not a lot on youtube on Pre columbian north america so I thought it'd be interesting.

[@kirstenwhitworth8079]

@@StefanMilo Yes! It is intensely interesting! Please feel free to do as many videos on Pre Columbian North America as you care to film, especially here in the PNW. So many languages and cultures in this area, such an incredibly long and rich history, so much imaginative and vibrant artwork, yet so little information is readily available. As a relatively new transplant, I am trying to soak up as much information as I can locate.

[@StefanMilo]

Same here, I've been fascinated since I moved here from the UK. This week's video is on some very ancient pre columbian artifacts from Oregon.

[@kirstenwhitworth8079]

@@StefanMilo 💖💖💖

[@deepquake9]

I love it when your videos just pop up.

[@erinrising2799]

had no idea the house broke apart to be transported. I had heard that they would have different summer and winter residences, but I always assumed it was that they had two permanent buildings that they would move between

[@manzell]

Most northwesterners say "Chinook" to rhyme with look, although a hard Ch vs. Sh seems to vary.

[@accuratedude]

The US Army has the workhorse helicopter CH-47 Chinook. And yet this tribe is not recognized by the government. Yeah, unfortunately, that kind of makes sense to me - anything so absurd must have a government agency involved! Maybe they can copyright their tribal name and sue the Army. It might work!

[@mrbaab5932]

The Army will just stop calling it their name. Also you can't just copyright a name after it has been widely used.

[@Myrtlecrack]

The indigenous people in my part of Oregon also used cedar plank houses, but theirs were partially dug into the Earth.

[@deandeann1541]

If I were born during the Age of Discovery, and had the choice of being born European or Chinook, I think I might go with Chinook - it was perhaps more egalitarian, and certainly the average Chinook had more food security -Europe at that time suffered occasional famine, and experienced resource constraints - and life was not so good for the average European working person.

[@jbstarkiller4626]

This is called coping🤣

[@utah133]

How did they make planks without metal tools? I'll need to look that one up.

[@paul6925]

rationalguy I’m guessing but they might use splitting techniques as they did in prehistoric Europe. Without saws you can still make planks by driving wooden wedges into the logs. The rough edges are smoothed with stone axes. Here’s a link to some techniques but there should be more on KZbin: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gZXFYYZsqaieoa8

[@seanbeadles7421]

@@paul6925 not only is this technique prehistoric, but throughout much of history it was the tried and true method of planking. It wasn’t until the invention of the powered circular saw and like the industrial Revolution that sawmills really became widespread. It was just easier to split the wood than spend an hour sawing down the length.

[@paul6925]

@@seanbeadles7421 Seeing it done is actually pretty amazing if you've never heard of it. I mean I split logs with an axe for the fireplace but...

[@lyledeschand863]

Split with antler wedges and stone hand held mauls.

[@paultheaudaciousbradford6772]

The Chinooks, I believe, survived the 9.0 magnitude earthquake in January 1700 that caused tsunamis in the Pacific Northwest as well as Japan. I wonder what their oral histories report about that.

[@donovanwargo4390]

We have oral records of the earthquake

[@paultheaudaciousbradford6772]

@@donovanwargo4390 It was a remarkable event.

[@paul6925]

Interesting stuff! I used to hear about the Haida further north of you around Victoria, Canada. Wish I had learned more about them when I lived there

[@yesid17]

thank you for this video!

[@cacogenicist]

Very sophisticated constructions. Mustve been quite comfortable. The huge salmon runs in the area no doubt contributed a great deal to the population densities.

[@dahemac]

It looks like the replica is made from sawed planks. It would be interesting to see how the planks would have been split and smoothed traditionally.

[@dwightstjohn6927]

EASY. We split cedar SHAKES that are straight grain. They split along the grain. you don't need to "smooth" the planks, and if cedar, you're just going to burr it and it would look fuzzy. also, in winter straight grain wood of all kinds splits even more easily. my grandfather used to split first growth pine for railroad ties at forty below; no sawing necessary!!!

[@lyledeschand863]

I actually worked on that plank house for three years. Only the roof planks were milled. Myself and two other guys textured them all with traditional elbow adzes. Some of the bunk planks were milled also. Everything else was hand split with wedges.

[@discoguy5878]

Wow man you must super strong legs! It’s amazing how you can sit on air like that!

[@mcRydes]

maybe my favorite channel now. Always love seeing a new video from Milo

[@dobypilgrim6160]

I don't understand HOW it is that they aren't recognized.

[@deanfirnatine7814]

@Mike Keller Stop with the racism, you may want to actually know something about the subject first

[@nakiahnapoleon8194]

'Chaa-nook'

[@deanfirnatine7814]

Yep

[@shannonpetitjean1051]

Shin uck

[@seeharvester]

Yes, thank you. Came here to say that.

[@jacondo2731]

you really deserve more subscribers ahh youtube isn't promoting good creators anymore

[@StefanMilo]

It's growing much quicker than it was. I'm very optimistic for 2019. Thanks for saying that though!

[@jacondo2731]

@@StefanMilo good for you mate wish you a happy 2019

[@cameronfielder4955]

Nope. KZbin wants you to watch Jeffrey star and mumble rap

[@Dylan_Goodboy]

One thing I always found interesting about the chinook people is that they had used a few metal tools.

[@Myrtlecrack]

This is the first time I've heard of metallurgy with a PNW indigenous culture, wow.

[@jayellis6774]

How did they mill the cedar? What kind of fasteners did they use to hold it all together. I guess I never realized that native people built permanent homes and villages.

[@lyledeschand863]

The cedar was split.. much was lashed with cedar rope.. pegs were also utilized.

[@tweaker1bms]

​@@lyledeschand863is there anywhere to see a demonstration of this? Am really curious how they made the planks.

[@karmakazi219]

How did they manufacture the planks?

[@qarljohnson4971]

They could pull individual planks from giant old growth cedar tress (hundreds of years old, up to 10m diameter). Through a horizontal cut at the bottom of the trunk, they could pry a wide plank up to 20-30m long. Then shaped with stone adzes.

[@JMM33RanMA]

Check out the culture and history of the Hodenosaunee of the Great Lakes area on the East coast. Thanks for this.

[@davidparadis490]

Fed govt: not sure we should recognize your tribe USArmy: we've had this helicopter called a Chinook for over 50 years

[@USAACbrat]

How did the Chinook make the planks, tool marks, grain, rings?

[@qarljohnson4971]

They could pull individual planks from giant old growth cedar tress (hundreds of years old, up to 10m diameter). Through a horizontal cut at the bottom of the trunk, they could pry a wide plank up to 20-30m long. Then shaped with stone adzes.

[@tweaker1bms]

​@@qarljohnson4971would really love to see a demonstration of this in order to fully understand. Future video idea??

[@zeideerskine3462]

Do you know how they cut trees and made planks before metal tools became available?

[@cillyhoney1892]

Stone axes and stone adzes. Takes longer than iron tools but it can still be done. Cedar wood is rot resistant and it splits nicely with wedges.

[@zeideerskine3462]

I know that are the tools they had and good for making canoes but they are tricky for making planks. I was wondering more whether they made log or cob houses. Planks also seem a bit less durable for the amount of effort needed to make them.

[@cillyhoney1892]

@@zeideerskine3462 the planks aren't like 2X4's. They are like 8 inches thick. You can split logs into thick planks with wedges. It's not easy but what are you going to do if you don't have a nice wood mill? Also why use a whole log when you can get three or four planks out it? Especially if you are going to be dismantling it and taking it with you when you move.

[@cillyhoney1892]

@@zeideerskine3462 Canoes are made with bark and pitch and young saplings for the frame. Dugout canoes are made by burning and hacking out the burnt parts with stone tools.

[@jameskahlerjr.]

what kind of ceremonies do there wanted to know about them for there culture of life .

[@AhJodie]

I love this too. I oddly became interested from watching the movie Dead Man with Johnny Depp...😌 Imagine carrying those planks to another place...wow.

[@seeharvester]

Doesn't make sense to me.

[@AhJodie]

@@seeharvester What doesn't make sense?

[@seeharvester]

@@AhJodie Removing the siding planks and carrying them who-knows-how-far to use on another frame. And then carrying them back. Why not just plank both of them? Would save a lot of time and effort.

[@AhJodie]

@@seeharvester Yeah , it does seem like a lot of work, but, perhaps they need inspection, and air? I would like to know.

[@benjaminstevens4468]

Actually they were built of Thuja plicata, or Western Red Cedar, a tree that is not closely related to cedar trees, which are native to the old world and were not present in North America. They are members of the cypress family, and have flat, frond like “sprays” of scale-like leaves, unlike the needle shaped leaves (similar to pine,) of true cedar trees.

[@deandeann1541]

You mentioned copper processing - are you refering to processing of native copper and reprocessing and repurposing (salvaging) copper objects? Or smelting copper? As far as I know, no native north americans were processing copper ore, they were pre-chalcolithic ie stone age. But if you have info that the Chinook were smelting copper, that would be great and I would appreciate the info. I know Central American natives were smelting copper (and gold and silver).

[@aznbabygirl4sp]

I thought you were floating there hahaha

[@StefanMilo]

I can hold that position for months

[@pinball4532]

Excuse me, but did you say COPPER production...? The Columbia River natives were producing/shaping metal tools before European contact? I have read nothing about this. I do know coastal tribes made use of metal from wrecked Spanish ships near the mouth of the Columbia, but producing copper?

[@rolandsarins7151]

How about gold?

[@hmmm6317]

Yes copper was quite easy to produce even for them,i believe there are even some arrow tip artefacts as well as ceremonial axes, also the incans produced arsenic bronze, from which they made maces and weapons for really high status warriors, but otherwise metals were mostly used for jewelery , i mean damn the mayans made platinum earrings!

[@tweaker1bms]

The tribes of the islands Columbus landed on also had gold. We know because there's actually a really gruesome story behind that. Christopher Columbus forced the native people to give up a certain amount of gold everyday, and if someone didn't make quota he would chop off their ears or hands. Yeah. Seriously...so, f that guy...

[@whyillustrated5610]

There's some evidence of native North American peoples processing and using copper, but it's not common and never seemed to catch on

[@deanfirnatine7814]

Too funny I subscribed to your channel months ago and had no idea you lived in this area, I am like 15 minutes from the long house. Can I ask why you say CH sound instead of SH sound when saying Chinook? I have lived in the NW my whole life and it has always been pronounced with a SH sound. I noticed the Chinook and Cowlitz claim some of the same territory.

[@lyledeschand863]

The tribe prefers CH..

[@karenzilverberg4699]

Thanks.

[@pakopepefdez185]

better to know chinook for this video than for the military helicopter

[@Quercus2024]

But how did they make the planks I wonder?

[@qarljohnson4971]

They could pull individual planks from giant old growth cedar tress (hundreds of years old, up to 10m diameter). Through a horizontal cut at the bottom of the trunk, they could pry a wide plank up to 20-30m long. Then shaped with stone adzes.

[@manhuawang11]

Wait, wut, slaves? But I've been assured, assured I tell you, that slavery is and was strictly a European invention... (Yes it's sarcasm) Silly comment aside, great channel and love the content. I hope the Chinook get the recognition they are looking for. Would be interested in more videos on their history.

[@auspiciouscloud8786]

Note that native American long houses were all along the pacific northwest coast including Canada, the Army burnt many to the ground.

[@MrsGlynn07]

East coast also had long houses. Probably a different style, though.

[@solowinterwolf]

Is this house on the Washington side? Can it be visited?

[@MyBizGuide8]

Yes, in Ridgefield Wildlife refuge

[@JuanSchwartz]

Sitting skill level +100

[@krismctopher7]

How did they mill planks? You did't tell us how they created these "planks" without European technology.

[@StefanMilo]

They split logs, no European technology required.

[@Nabium]

@@StefanMilo With axes? Or some kind of saw? What kind of wood did they use? How thick were the planks? What were they axes made out of?

[@whyillustrated5610]

​@@NabiumThey used a combination of antler wedges and stone axes

[@Nabium]

@@whyillustrated5610 It's beautifully made with just wedges and crude axes. They've taken great care when crafting, there's must be a lot of hard work and skills there. I tried to fashion a plank from a small log with steel axes and wedges when I was younger, the way the wood always split in unpredictable ways made it impossible.

[@johnlamb95]

How did they build them?

[@howdy627]

Priest rapids has a long house the Wanapum tribe lived there's lots of history on the Columbia River it was a desert landscape

[@angrytedtalks]

Hierarchy and division of labour. That really is civilisation. How the hell did they cut planks without bronze or Iron 3000 years ago? The plank house is very similar to to european farmer houses of circa 5,000 to 6,000 years ago.

[@qarljohnson4971]

They could pull individual planks from giant old growth cedar tress (hundreds of years old, up to 10m diameter). Through a horizontal cut at the bottom of the trunk, they could pry a wide plank up to 20-30m long. Then shaped with stone adzes.

[@angrytedtalks]

@@qarljohnson4971 I'm curious how you "pull planks" out of a tree trunk. My question was how they cut flat planks; what tools and of what material. Planks are generally cut with rotating steel blades, clearly manual tools would be very difficult to get straight, flat planks.

[@samw9977]

@@angrytedtalks the grain in the trunk all runs perpendicular to the ground. Wood splits along its grain so if you make two horizontal cuts whatever is in between those cuts will split out pretty easily.

[@angrytedtalks]

@@samw9977 Into flat planks? That's not what we were taught in boy scouts.

[@samw9977]

@@angrytedtalks wood cuts easily along its grain and it would be simple enough to process the face edge with a flint blade. it's not like these buildings were constructed with dead flat materials

[@jgblueskies]

Anybody else wondering what the hell Stefan is sitting on?? How is he not falling over without the much needed "leg" of the chair?

[@alexisleon23]

The tribe's name has something to do with the famous Chinook helicopters ?

[@dp0004]

I learned that Chinook meant 'Big Wind', but it seems I was wrong. Is that a mockingbird I can hear? I am an early learner.

[@alecjones8235]

I think it’s funny how nonchalantly you talk about them practicing slavery.

[@ayinstrumentals7731]

Literally everyone did that back then

[@deanfirnatine7814]

@@ayinstrumentals7731 Exactly, I find it astonishing how little many people know of basic history

[@ayinstrumentals7731]

@@deanfirnatine7814 yea what mans was thinking is that they did CHATTEL slavery, but conventional was way less brutal.

[@elizabethshaw734]

Could you have found a smaller more comfortable chair that doesn't look like such a nutcracker?!

[@TheRelen222]

Putting the slaves nearest the door? Seems like a bad idea.

[@seeharvester]

I was thinking the same. I guess the slaves knew better than to run.

[@mikeCavalle]

I hear the word pronounced Shhhhhhh - NOOK

[@suzimarima]

Descendants and Chinook people today pronounce it *chih-nook* as Stefan does here. It's safe to say that's the correct pronunciation.

[@mikeCavalle]

@@suzimarima www.google.com/search?q=pronounce+chinook&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS732US732&oq=pronounce+Chinook&aqs=chrome.0.0l6.4913j0j1&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

[@mikeCavalle]

Every Chinook I've ever met has pronounced it as above. I hope this is not for just us immigrants. course they were speaking English so that may make a difference. and I do know that in Downeast Maine the town, Steuben, is pronounced Stew-Ben, and the Willamette river, rimes with Damn-it.

[@suzimarima]

@@mikeCavalle In my hands I have the book Chinookan People of the Lower Columbia, which is cited as a reference in this very video. One of the editors for this book is Tony A. Johnson who is not only a descendent Chinookan but is also the chair of their Cultural Committee. Here is a quote on page "x" in the preface: " The name 'Chinook' (pronounced with the 'ch' and in 'chin' not 'shin') is from c'inuk, the Lower Chehalis name for a village on Baker Bay..." So...again, it's fairly safe to say "Chih" nook is the correct pronounciation.

[@mikeCavalle]

@@suzimarima hi, and as i said to start this thread, "I hear the word pronounced..." so I'm not really interested in the 'correct' pronunciation, I'm only interested in the way Chinookan people DO pronounce it.

[@inoshikachokonoyarobakayar2493]

They remind me of Norse great halls.

[@tisdebb1]

😱

[@waboosejackson3711]

Shinook

[@Wolf-tw5rs]

It really reminds me of an Amazonian cheifs hut

[@haleyguthrie3113]

Now...hang on...the Chinook are a band of Natives with separate tribes. There were dozens of tribes under the umbrella and they spoke Chinookan Jargon. I'm Quileute so I have some knowledge but maybe they taught us wrong??

[@jacksonsinclair2615]

Yes we get lumped together but the Chinook Indian Nation is the 5 bands of the "Lower Chinook" that being Lower Chinook, Clatsop, Wahkaikum, Kathlamet and the Willapa. We see are ourselves as a distinct political entity from the upriver chinooks like the warm springs and wishram even though we are closely ethnically linked. We are also closely tied with the Shoalwater tribe who are chinook as well as chehalis and we descend from the same failed treaty signers at tansy point in 1851. Shoalwater was formed through exucitive order and the only people that could claim enrollment was 3 families out of the 88 people who signed the treaty so many chinooks were excluded from an enrollment. Many Chinooks went to live and are now enrolled Quinalt. My family recieved an allotment but we are part Quinalt as well as Chinook.

[@haleyguthrie3113]

@jacksonsinclair2615 I thought so! Although our tribe traditionally learned Chinookan jargon to speak to our surrounding tribes, we also have our own unique language. It was the way it wad explained in the video that I was just trying to clarify a bit. Being a small DISTINCT tribe, I always try to keep other tribes distinct as well. Are you still living in your peoples area or reservation? I married a man from AL and work with the porch Creek a lot now. They are always so interested in our culture. It's so different and obviously distinct from most other eastern and southern tribes.

[@jacksonsinclair2615]

@@haleyguthrie3113 yes I am from Tokeland originally and I work on the shoalwater bay reservation. Ive worked in Tahola doing Forestry as well as the Queets and Clearwater before hurting my back. Ive had to have 3 spine surgeries at the University of Washington. The Shoalwater tribe have been very supportive in offering employment in their cultural deparmtent becasue I cant walk very far anymore and use a cane. We have tribal events for Chinook about twice a month too. We also fillet salmon and process other food to give out to the community. Lapush is so beautiful but I hope you find happiness in your adventure and blessing to your family.

[@haleyguthrie3113]

@jacksonsinclair2615 blessings to you as well! We have those cabins on the beach there, we do basket weaving and cedar working classes too. Trying to pass on the work! I love your area as well! I don't get down there much, I only get home maybe 2 or 3 times a year! Blessings

[@mmac4047]

“Shin nook”

[@lyledeschand863]

The tribe prefers CH

[@VitorEmanuelOliver]

It would be weird if slaves slept near the door, it would be easier for them to escape

[@raydavison4288]

The feds don't recognize the Shawnee either.

[@markquintonii]

www.estoo-nsn.gov/

[@deanfirnatine7814]

Yes and No, they recognize Shawnee that were moved to Oklahoma but not the few who stayed put in the Ohio and Kentucky region.

[@pebystroll]

A crouch from hell

[@Thx1138sober]

So, the lower the social status you had, the better the chance you would have of surviving a house fire, especially since it looks like you would have to get on your knees to go in or out of the glorified doggy door in these houses.

[@TeethToothman]

👾❌👾

[@robertlivingston1634]

Doesn't make much sense to me to have slaves sleep by the door, it would however make sense to have young warriors near the door.

[@suzimarima]

Most likely slaves were not treated as chattel as the Europeans did during the African slave trade era. Much like Roman slaves they may have been seen to a certain degree as part of the household and therefore taken care of well. Not ideal, because slavery is horrible no matter how you slice it, but that's a theory.

[@rocknrodney2504]

Looks alot like Viking longhouses.....

[@sofknsad]

But that's a viking longhouse? Perhaps the ancestors of vikings came from America.

[@abiku2923]

no

[@timothyd181]

...viking? I hope you're joking...

[@brumm0m3ntum94]

even at a glance it’s clearly different from a viking longhouse, and longhouses in general are common all throughout the world