Chomsky: Hillary Clinton Fears BDS Because It Counters Decades of US Support for Israeli Aggression

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@EdwardJordanTheOriginal
@EdwardJordanTheOriginal 8 жыл бұрын
As the first Jewish candidate for a major party in history, Bernie has the most principled and nuanced approach to Israel and Palestine. The USA has had an unethical position for decades towards the Palestinian people and that MUST end if actual peace between Muslim nations and the west will ever come to pass.
@nycalien
@nycalien 8 жыл бұрын
And Hillary is trying to be Jewish than actual Jews,
@Zaccheus4
@Zaccheus4 8 жыл бұрын
+Malith Perera not Jewish but nationalist for israel
@spktruth200
@spktruth200 8 жыл бұрын
Its also why the Associated Press (owned by the Zionist Rothchilds) and NBC called the election for Clinton on june 6 before the votes were taken in 6 states on june 7. she is a Zionist supported by Zionists.
@scientism2968
@scientism2968 8 жыл бұрын
Over a Billion people in the West, and over 1.5 Billion Muslims in 56 Muslim states, and "peace between Muslim nations and the West" is to do with a tiny ONE jewish state with population smaller than NYC...? I think you need to see your doctor.
@shonnyNOR
@shonnyNOR 8 жыл бұрын
Rather, YOU need to get a bit of knowledge about the matter. Israel would never have been the hobby-Nazi state it is today without uncritical US support, which again is promoted through AIPAC and other rotten US-Israel alliances. But then again the US itself is the greatest committer of war crimes since WW2, with Israel following suit. Sadly, Europeans haven't got the guts to boycott neither Israel nor the US, but just dance to the American tune.
@vulcanfeline
@vulcanfeline 8 жыл бұрын
i particularly like how clinton calls for free and open dialogue as long as it agrees with her :/
@philipbrailey
@philipbrailey 8 жыл бұрын
Do some mor study. Use KZbin. Have a look at Pof Finklestein
@mattydigs
@mattydigs 8 жыл бұрын
She's a feminist, remember?
@Jordan-uz9me
@Jordan-uz9me 5 жыл бұрын
Free and open bombing
@ajaypasricha9855
@ajaypasricha9855 8 жыл бұрын
"I don't understand how you can run a country when you are under constant attack." -Hillary Clinton I would love to know how the people of Haiti, Cuba, Nicaragua, Iran, Iraq, Vietnam, etc. did that while under constant US attack.
@judithsochor9755
@judithsochor9755 7 жыл бұрын
Ajay Pasricha
@eugenedebbs2189
@eugenedebbs2189 4 жыл бұрын
Lmao. That's a good point. But tactically, Hillary realised that she was already hated by the 'Bernie" and progressive wings of the Democratic Party, so it was only logical for her to make statements that pander to the centrists and centre-rights to win votes.
@cupiduspacis4209
@cupiduspacis4209 Жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@AmilcarCabral-qg3yq
@AmilcarCabral-qg3yq Жыл бұрын
Yes!!!!! And, especially for Cuba who the US invaded long before they agreed to accept nuclear weapons from the Soviet Union. The economic boycott is a stage of warfare.
@nurlindafsihotang49
@nurlindafsihotang49 11 ай бұрын
Especially the lies she spouted about 1998 "peace plan"
@davidmcccsf
@davidmcccsf 8 жыл бұрын
She should run for the president of Israel.
@eugenedebbs2189
@eugenedebbs2189 4 жыл бұрын
Not sure whether even Israel would want her lol.
@pjamesbda
@pjamesbda 8 жыл бұрын
Why the continued conflict? Noam sums it up pretty well, as long as we continue to disproportionately support by us to Israel there will be continued conflict.
@Keriks
@Keriks 8 жыл бұрын
I could listen him forever.
@charlesrogers2953
@charlesrogers2953 8 жыл бұрын
Hi America - If you want to get the USA back on it's feet then get rid of AIPAC.
@nash984954
@nash984954 8 жыл бұрын
I haven't ever heard of an equivalent to Israelis Samson Option, by Hamas or any Palestinians, who love their land so much they remain under the worst treatment.
@steh8831
@steh8831 8 жыл бұрын
I know it may seem like nitpicking, but is it more accurate to call it "Zionist violence and aggression" rather than Israeli violence and aggression? There are, after all, a fair number of Israelis who are not comfortable with Netanyahu's policies and ideology.
@Hhhhhh-sz9ud
@Hhhhhh-sz9ud 6 жыл бұрын
I like that. Kind of like we don’t refer to Nazi Germany’s actions as German actions but as Nazi actions.
@pavilionman64
@pavilionman64 3 жыл бұрын
That is partially true, but being Israeli intrinsically means being a Zionist. I always make a distinction between Jew and Israeli/Zionist as well as anti-Semite and anti-Zionist.
@nurlindafsihotang49
@nurlindafsihotang49 11 ай бұрын
But still, they come and stayed in Israel😂
@dianewhalen9721
@dianewhalen9721 6 жыл бұрын
I never understood why Israel was allowed to get away with their atrocious activity put onto the Palestinians. Nice to hear this debate
@PapaMagnum
@PapaMagnum 7 жыл бұрын
I love how pissed off Hillary's face looks when Bernie says anything, ever.
@ovdtogt1
@ovdtogt1 8 жыл бұрын
You 'run a country' by recognizing international law. That's how you start to end disputes with your neighbours.
@brandonmiles8174
@brandonmiles8174 6 жыл бұрын
The irony of Clinton in one statement saying we must fight back against BDS and in the next sentence saying we must not shut down debate. How intelligent
@selma5885
@selma5885 10 ай бұрын
7 year old interview, but as relevant today as always.
@stanleycook4979
@stanleycook4979 8 жыл бұрын
The company you keep is a direct reflection of ones values and character and with allies like Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Rwanda Bahrain, Egypt and Israel just to name a few only shows our values and character as a country isn't any better.
@antred11
@antred11 8 жыл бұрын
Can you name any country in the region that you would consider an acceptable ally?
@adamstein4104
@adamstein4104 7 жыл бұрын
+antred11 There are no good allies in the region. Our best allies are Canada, England, Australia, France, Germany, etc
@ryanbellinson8842
@ryanbellinson8842 8 жыл бұрын
One of the most brilliant minds of our time. I'm very jealous of all those at MIT who get to have him as a lecturer.
@kaderathebeekeeper22m3
@kaderathebeekeeper22m3 8 жыл бұрын
Me too!!
@tomgreg2008
@tomgreg2008 8 жыл бұрын
Hillary is one super scary person.
@Loftur1172
@Loftur1172 7 жыл бұрын
I wish more people would look at government like Noam.
@MK-us2ls
@MK-us2ls 3 жыл бұрын
Sadly I voted for this woman. Bernie Sanders is the only politician with a conscious.
@dennyloverin3470
@dennyloverin3470 8 жыл бұрын
Who benifited from 911?
@Shamrockrancher
@Shamrockrancher 8 жыл бұрын
HRC: "You have a right to defend yourself". HRC: Gimme your guns.
@antred11
@antred11 8 жыл бұрын
You can defend yourself without god damned assault rifles.
@Shamrockrancher
@Shamrockrancher 8 жыл бұрын
antred11 You should spend A LOT OF TIME reading our Declaration of Independence and Constitution. You should also read some supporting documents like The Federalist Papers. You have absolutely no knowledge about where the 2nd amendment comes from and why its there. I won't waste another keystroke on you, bigot.
@metisehtheist5551
@metisehtheist5551 8 жыл бұрын
You people don't know the difference between gun regulations and banning guns. No one is trying to take your guns away and nowhere in your constitution does it say you're allowed to bear assault rifles..it says "muskets". lol
@Shamrockrancher
@Shamrockrancher 8 жыл бұрын
You dumb ass. Nowhere in any of our founding documents does it identify any kind of weapon (musket/assault weapon). Furthermore, if you had any idea wha you were talking about, you'd know we're not talking about assault weapons. By definition, an assault weapon is capable of fully automatic fire. Congratulations, you're a bigot and a major league dumb ass. STFU.
@antred11
@antred11 8 жыл бұрын
Shamrockrancher "Nowhere in any of our founding documents does it identify any kind of weapon (musket/assault weapon). " Oh well, then I suppose you'd be alright with me installing my own private nuclear missile silo.
@kqp1998gyy
@kqp1998gyy 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@thchen8312
@thchen8312 8 жыл бұрын
I do like this video and Chomsky. I respect him and think he is reasonably smart guy and very caring individual and knows what is going on in the world around us.
@Zandiv
@Zandiv 6 жыл бұрын
General rule of thumb, if Hillary is against it, then doing it is the right thing to do.
@banamaa91
@banamaa91 8 жыл бұрын
I would love to see Hillary attempt to debate Chomsky.
@jamesrobinson9460
@jamesrobinson9460 6 жыл бұрын
We must put an end to the Israeli occupation of Palestine! Daniel 9:24-27. End apartheid, and stop the genocide!
@chugalongway01
@chugalongway01 8 жыл бұрын
Chomksy has a unique voice I can listen to all day
@FredSlocombe
@FredSlocombe 8 жыл бұрын
BDS (Boycott Divestment Sanctions). I just had to get that cleared up. I forgot what it was.
@rickrossley2920
@rickrossley2920 8 жыл бұрын
i definately believe Israel has the right to exist and the right to defend themselves. that said, they need to go back to pre 67' borders. even David Ben Gurion advocated for that.
@lopasrokas231
@lopasrokas231 8 жыл бұрын
We should start: The Noam Chomsky Doctrine. For the survival of humanity and a much better world!
@naimulhaq9626
@naimulhaq9626 8 жыл бұрын
Neither the democrats or republicans has the will to see peace in ME.
@naimulhaq9626
@naimulhaq9626 8 жыл бұрын
***** Bernie fails to see the aggressor/occupier in the ME,like his opposition to complete audit of the FED, indicating he is easily purchased, just like everyone.
@alltairman
@alltairman 8 жыл бұрын
Trump and Bernie talk to you. Hillary YELLS at you.
@adamstein4104
@adamstein4104 7 жыл бұрын
I think Trump yells too. Trump and Hillary are both excessively aggressive people with a lot of pent up rage
@MrRobster1234
@MrRobster1234 8 жыл бұрын
Wolf Blitzer, what a greasy, little stick-handler.
@RaysDad
@RaysDad 6 жыл бұрын
It's been 2 years now since this Sanders/Clinton debate and Clinton still won't go away. The campaign across America to suppress free speech regarding BDS also won't go away. The USA is paralyzed.
@infiniteinfiniteinfi
@infiniteinfiniteinfi 8 жыл бұрын
Noam is so conservative in his proposals its almost comical; follow the law and report the facts. This just demonstrates how right wing and off the wall the whole political and economic establishment is.
@zatoichi3134
@zatoichi3134 8 жыл бұрын
left wing, right wing= same bird
@jltorres6320
@jltorres6320 8 жыл бұрын
Chomsky in Bernie's Cabinet would be a force to be reckoned with.
@adamstein4104
@adamstein4104 7 жыл бұрын
I would like Chomsky as Secretary of Labor, Secretary of Education, or the Environmental Protection Agency administrator. Maybe Secretary of State but that would never be allowed in a million years
@zarrsar6372
@zarrsar6372 8 жыл бұрын
Truth
@cajantube
@cajantube 8 жыл бұрын
Chomsky is out of line, BDS hurts everyone.I agree Leslie, Bernie is on point as usual.
@18bites
@18bites 8 жыл бұрын
It's gonna be great with this honorable woman in the White House.
@18bites
@18bites 8 жыл бұрын
Mercy me. I meant that piece of shit that happens to have a vagina makes me sick
@omgsolikevalleygirl
@omgsolikevalleygirl 5 жыл бұрын
Too bad Chomsky's voice is so hard to listen to. What he says is some of the most important thought of or time.
@ronagoodwell2709
@ronagoodwell2709 6 жыл бұрын
Hillary Clinton, a Democrat, is more right wing than even Donald Trump. Crazy choice we were offered in 2016. No wonder so many people refuse to vote. But I notice how Trump has fallen right into line on the Israel question. Six of one, half-dozen of the other.
@thielees
@thielees 8 жыл бұрын
Trump is awful. Hillary is awful.
@annthomson3518
@annthomson3518 8 жыл бұрын
Please Noam, go on mainstream media and speak.
8 жыл бұрын
The truth is, like everything else, those little rockets, are a set up. Of course, they are fired by Mossad agents. Have you ever noticed that nobody ever dies? because of them? And where has the real picture gone? Israel is not Israel, It is Palestine. Given illegally to the Jews by England in 1948, even though it wasn't theirs to give. Solution? Get the fuck out of Palestine, and move, lock stock and barrel, into America. most of you are there anyway..And as Americans are you servants anyway, they will look after you, and care for you....
@alloomis1635
@alloomis1635 6 жыл бұрын
so far as i can tell, european jews invaded palestine, very quietly, under the blind eye of the british 'mandate.' in about 1925, they were strong enough to throw off the pretense of peaceful settlers, and declare their intention of taking all of palestine, "from the river to the sea." which remains their goal, one bite at a time. the locals resisted, but without european money and guns, later american money and guns, they find themselves pressed into 'reservations,' dependent on u. n. aid for survival. a crime done in the open, worse than apartheid.
@Blkchevy98
@Blkchevy98 7 жыл бұрын
Not really Hillary. Surrendering wasn't an option for the locals.
@naturalexplorer3096
@naturalexplorer3096 8 жыл бұрын
Israel has the power to maintain peace. They repeatedly show they aren't interested. The archaic eye for an eye philosophy lives on
@jenniferholden9397
@jenniferholden9397 6 жыл бұрын
How she can lie with such a straight face. She an actor.
@markdarnell614
@markdarnell614 6 жыл бұрын
I sure wish Bernie was 25 years younger, because he is Courageous, Forward Thinking, and ETHICAL! I didn't vote in the last election, and I still berate myself for it! - tRump is an ABSOLUTE Disaster!...but Hillary?!!!! No FUCKING WAY! She is so jaundiced, and corrosive - it's stomach-turning! Unfortunately, we'll never have a Leader like Noam Chomsky - the clearest, and sharpest mind in the US!
@jamesrobinson9460
@jamesrobinson9460 6 жыл бұрын
There is NO LEGITIMATE BASIS for the EXISTENCE of the State of Israel: SHOULD ISRAEL EXIST? Daniel 9:24-27 says: "70 weeks (490 years, beginning in 457 B.C.), are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and seal up the vision and the prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy (Jesus, The Messiah). Know therefore and understand that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and build Jerusalem (in 457 B.C.) unto Messiah, the prince shall be 7 weeks, and threescore and 2 weeks (69 weeks, or 483 years, unto the year 27 A.D.): the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times. And after 7 weeks, and threescore and 2 weeks (69 weeks, or 483 years, plus 3.5 years), shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself…And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week (7 years, from 27 A.D. through 34 A.D.), and in the mist of the week (or in mid-30 A.D.), he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and from the overspreading of abominations, he shall make it desolate…." When the apostate Jews killed the Apostle Steven, in 34 A.D., (Acts 7:57-59), the covenant with ancient Israel ended.
@scentability0129
@scentability0129 8 жыл бұрын
What weird, obvious statements this man is revered for.
@liamj2363
@liamj2363 8 жыл бұрын
+scentability01 In the land of the blind the one eyed man is king.
@critterIMHO
@critterIMHO 8 жыл бұрын
+valgehiir Because people are ignoring the basics.
@colinmurphy3478
@colinmurphy3478 8 жыл бұрын
I don't think a 7th grade would be able hand Alan Doucheawitz his ass on stage of Isreal/Palestine time and time again. Most 7th graders in the US know absolutely nothing about Isreal/Palestine. Finally, what he is saying is basic but true and cuts through the propaganda that clouds this debate.
@dvdboy911
@dvdboy911 8 жыл бұрын
democracy now can u please do a converge of what happened in Nevada please I cant depend on the CNN and MSNBC
@voss134
@voss134 8 жыл бұрын
Try secular talk
@jameshansen8220
@jameshansen8220 7 жыл бұрын
Hillary bounced off the glass ceiling. Windex.
@RandolphCthulhu
@RandolphCthulhu 8 жыл бұрын
Israel wants to have a reason to take Gaza and the West Bank -- That is why it continues.
@dem4lifesaying657
@dem4lifesaying657 6 жыл бұрын
Please Forgive Me Hillary!!!!! I Should Have Voted For You !!! I REALLY DO !! 😢
@Justin.Martyr
@Justin.Martyr 7 жыл бұрын
It was NEVER Explained, as to WUT BDS stands for!!! Bad Drugs Stupor!
@theengineer704
@theengineer704 7 жыл бұрын
Need to make a new song, "Bernie come back" (similar to the tunes of "Baby Come Back" by Player; 1977)
@gin1740
@gin1740 6 жыл бұрын
Wow Bernie..............you should have won!
@jamesrobinson9460
@jamesrobinson9460 6 жыл бұрын
We Must Have Comprehensive Discussions About the Origin, Roles, and Influence of the State of Israel in Economics, Media, Politics, Education, and Other Fields.
@thehomeplatespecial597
@thehomeplatespecial597 6 жыл бұрын
so, who did Chomsky support in the General Election
@BILLBILLH
@BILLBILLH 6 жыл бұрын
here i am in 2019 now. does H.R. 1 2019 have anti boycott in it?
@elmobennett3013
@elmobennett3013 8 жыл бұрын
Fact of Life! Hillary is millions of supporters ahead of Bernie! So why should millions more NOT be counted?
@elmobennett3013
@elmobennett3013 8 жыл бұрын
Yeah cry babies you turn coats would not be crying if the Bern was doing good! Bernie who?
@elmobennett3013
@elmobennett3013 8 жыл бұрын
John Moran Bernie Who? IDIOT!
@elmobennett3013
@elmobennett3013 8 жыл бұрын
John Moran Bernie Who?
@Just_logic
@Just_logic 6 жыл бұрын
BDS IS SPREADING. It can not be stopped.
@philipbrailey
@philipbrailey 8 жыл бұрын
Noam is spot on here. Clinton is repulsive with her answer.
@Tungadunger
@Tungadunger 8 жыл бұрын
Bernie ROCKS!
@Kinkle_Z
@Kinkle_Z 6 жыл бұрын
7:48 - warning! HRC porn starts here. May not be suitable for small children.
@lindasandoval8944
@lindasandoval8944 6 жыл бұрын
Bring it on Killary I assure you that you will lose
@NaaziaEssop
@NaaziaEssop 9 ай бұрын
Hey Hillary, Please go and take care of Bill's Needs. He's deprived, Shame.
@HelloWorldImSally44
@HelloWorldImSally44 5 ай бұрын
She couldn't satisfy his needs
@gundurra
@gundurra 8 жыл бұрын
thumbs up t does not show now??
@65minimom
@65minimom 6 жыл бұрын
2 years later - Noam Chomsky was right! .Love his sarcasm re Hillary :) truth! Hillary would not have been any better than Trump just more poised in public. In his book, Bernie said he was pulled aside by DNC & told to temper his temper with her - a Jew not on the side of Israel? Why would he? this is not the religious issue!
@kobewankobe8998
@kobewankobe8998 8 жыл бұрын
it's like you offer the Palestinians like a fraction of their former lands and not even the most fertile and expect them to take it after u sent settlers to take the original land then u say it's the Palestinian people's fault they don't have a state ? she sounds like netanyahu himself is in her earpiece telling her exactly what to say which he probably is .
@tinytanks
@tinytanks 8 жыл бұрын
lol someone should make a supercut of all the times amy goodman has to break in one of noam chomsky's long rambles to bring it back on topic. we should all be very glad that noam made it to the digital age. in a few years we will look back on bernie/chomsky as moral liberalism's guiding saints after they are no longer with us, and these democracy now clips will be in the history books.
@TheJonnyEnglish
@TheJonnyEnglish 3 жыл бұрын
America really missed out with Bernie
@oldschoolman1444
@oldschoolman1444 6 жыл бұрын
This is a prime example of the problem with religion. More people have been slaughtered throughout the ages over the differences of beliefs. Don't you think It's time this nonsense ends?!
@rafishalom1
@rafishalom1 8 жыл бұрын
Not a fan of Clinton, but she is right.
@kasparnguyen7979
@kasparnguyen7979 8 жыл бұрын
If you ever want to know what's morally 'right', first look to what Hillary's position is. And then rule it out. 😂
@1solayman
@1solayman 7 жыл бұрын
Israel should take the rest of Palestine and give the natives ( Palestinians) Israeli passport and citizen
@gundurra
@gundurra 8 жыл бұрын
thumbs up does not apply here
@CrazyFunnyCats
@CrazyFunnyCats 5 жыл бұрын
Goodman and Chomsky team 👍✨ Read all the comments
@diankreczmer6595
@diankreczmer6595 7 жыл бұрын
he'll hath no fury like a woman scorned and now we are seeing her revenge and I am a woman and a democrat
@tjfreak
@tjfreak 7 жыл бұрын
Thats an antiquated old time saying & empty today in a world full of scorned vengeful people both genders & Good that you believe that though.
@tony93781
@tony93781 8 жыл бұрын
relay are you sure
@johnsparkman1126
@johnsparkman1126 6 жыл бұрын
I'm never sure about the mideast, Palestinian's, Israelis. I am much more concerned about damage to all from Trump as a "foreign agent!"
@BradLancaster86
@BradLancaster86 8 жыл бұрын
american universal-fee, not universities.
@esenakyapi1499
@esenakyapi1499 7 жыл бұрын
ooooo, look at that conviction, how passionate! "israel doesn't invite..." HAHAHA!... all the palestenian prisoners and farmers whose olive groves are plucked out for IN-YOUR-FKN-FACE settlements beg to differ.
@annthomson3518
@annthomson3518 8 жыл бұрын
Noam, please. Address the world in action or protests to stop trump. U of all people would know the best ideas to motivate people to wake up. I hope u r able to do so. The chaos will be terrible otherwise
@davestonehill6177
@davestonehill6177 8 ай бұрын
I should have voted for Hillary. G-d bless her.
@veerjat6210
@veerjat6210 6 жыл бұрын
All these ppl are same side of the coin just with a little to no distance between them.
@critterIMHO
@critterIMHO 8 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the hildabeast had to run and duck for cover in Israel too.
@Will_Moffett
@Will_Moffett 8 жыл бұрын
If she made up another story would anyone care? Would two stories of manufactured valor be the tipping point where just one is ignored by most? I'm waiting to read the headline "Hillary Stomps Baby Penguin" and an op ed about how the little fella had it coming, poll numbers remain unchanged.
@louiseperron3033
@louiseperron3033 8 жыл бұрын
Not the same thing. The Vatican is not a nation.
@trin1721
@trin1721 8 жыл бұрын
Sounds like she's screeching
@tony93781
@tony93781 8 жыл бұрын
Mr Trump the only one who can save America
@Frisbieinstein
@Frisbieinstein 7 жыл бұрын
God, I'd forgotten how creepy H was.
@guzepppi
@guzepppi 6 жыл бұрын
HER ANSWERS IS LIKE LOOKING AT A COPY OF AN EXRAY PLATE. THE OPPOSITE IS THE TRUETH.
@louiseperron3033
@louiseperron3033 8 жыл бұрын
If Catholic's wanted their own nation what do you think the world's reaction would be?
@kemwittalltree9650
@kemwittalltree9650 8 жыл бұрын
+louise perron They have a country! Vatican City!
@fprieto104
@fprieto104 8 жыл бұрын
jail for Clinton.. immediately..
@Artcarnie
@Artcarnie 8 жыл бұрын
His ideal of campus debate sounds like he's giving on up to campuses that are already controlled by groups that have interests in the military of the the USA. Just saying it sounds like he's giving up.
@omrigoldenzeil
@omrigoldenzeil 8 жыл бұрын
I am a hardcore left-wing israeli and a big Chomsky fan but I have to say, he's out of touch with who Hamas are and the fuckery they have done.
@pmcclaren1
@pmcclaren1 7 жыл бұрын
Jezebel did not repent of her sins. She is in hell for eternity. This is not rocket science.
@elmobennett3013
@elmobennett3013 8 жыл бұрын
I did not know BERNIE was a Shrew!
@Boviss1Bovis
@Boviss1Bovis 5 жыл бұрын
Impossible to watch, though I'm a fan of Prof Chomsky. HC at her most repulsive is a tough swallow.
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