Choose The BEST Beginner Motorcycle For You with Math!

[@JCintheBCC]

When I was shopping for my first showroom new bike, I wanted a supersport. I had been a fan of Kawasakis growing up and wanted a ZX-6R, but budget and discretion caused me to look at smaller displacement bikes. I got the sportiest small-displacement bike at the time: a Kawasaki Ninja 300 and stumbled backwards into the best decision I could have made at the time. The Ninja 300 has far more relaxed ergonomics than a full-on supersport and that was crucial for both physical and mental comfort on the bike. My prior experience had been riding a UJM standard on backroads in Vermont, and transitioning to multi-lane suburban and urban surface roads and highways made me more nervous than I expected. I am fortunate that ergonomics of the Ninja 300 I was "stuck with" allowed the movement and vision on the bike to feel more aware and comfortable on the bike. I'm not sure I would still want to ride if I had gotten the supersport out of the gate.

[@CanyonChasers]

Yes! Thats fantastic! I'm delighted in the batch of more rider friendly sport bikes we have to chose from these days. Kawasaki has been knocking it out of the park lately!

[@c0dy1287]

Small bikes are awesome, I have an 07 zzr600 which is just a rebadged early 2000s zx6, and I still love small displacement bikes, I love my bike and I'm keeping it but I miss having a small bike and look forward to grabbing another one when I have the money

[@butteredchefcheeks928]

I recently bought my 1st proper motorcycle. I also originally wanted something sporty and flashy. After a lot of research and discussion with people, I settled on a Honda FTR223. I'm currently residing in a SEA country and it's a very popular bike here for so many reasons. Just an all round fun and reliable bike, and absolutely great for beginners. When I do upgrade eventually to something with more CC's, I'll still keep the FTR. It's one of those bikes that will just go forever, Toyota style dependance when it comes to reliability. Anyway, sorry for necro-ing this post 😅

[@Ellisian]

i recently test rode an R7 (i own an r3) and i couldn't believe how much it taught me about what i want out of a motorbike. i never thought that i cared so much about power delivery, or max rpms, but i immediately realised that i loved my r3's high redline & higher power near the top. i couldn't stand the r7's flat power curve, even though there was so much more on tap. i also learned that i want a bike with the aggressive ergos of a supersport. i cant recommend test rides enough!! i had no idea it'd teach me so much about what i truly wanted from my bike. awesome vid, i loved the brief rundown at the beginning of the key parts of the bike.

[@CanyonChasers]

Oh wow! I'm glad you liked that part. I almost cut it out, but Mrs. CanyonChaser insisted it stay in. And you are exactly right! Motorcycles are such a personal thing - nothing like a car - when we can zero in on the attributes we enjoy or want, it results in such a better experience.

[@Ellisian]

@@CanyonChasers i really appreciated it, as someone without much experience around motorbikes growing up or mechanically, it was really cool to have such a clear definition for the key elements of bike geometry laid out!

[@BeginnerMoto]

This is a great video. It’s so annoying to me when people gatekeep certain bikes because of some horsepower number, X feature, or some price. There is not a one size fits all for everybody. I cruise classified listings quite a bit and the amount of bikes that are more than 1 year old with less than 2000 miles on them are staggering. There Is no point having the best “beginner” bike if you don’t want to ride it. The best beginner bike IMO is the one that makes you confident and hopeful to ride.

[@CanyonChasers]

Yes, I agree! Another commenter mentioned how he's 6'3" - It's a little impactical to think they should start off on a CBR250, right?

[@MotoControlEn]

Aww, the "Motorcycle Dynamics" book, you have a great taste, sir!🧐😁

[@CanyonChasers]

It’s kinda like our bible, right?

[@MotoControlEn]

@@CanyonChasers Sort of😁

[@CanyonChasers]

It can be really hard to understand sometimes. Haha.

[@MotoControlEn]

@@CanyonChasers Yeah, it looks like it was written by a professor 😉

[@CanyonChasers]

Yeah, it was written by an Italian, and then translated - so not only is it really complicated, it's also translated.

[@carver7689]

"Neutral geometry" is the standout phrase for this video, in my opinion. Once a new rider is comfortable with a naked or ADV bike, then they can really appreciate what makes the sport bike so twitchy and the cruiser so mellow. Great video again!

[@CanyonChasers]

Awesome. And thank you!

[@wobblysauce]

Some buy one and that is the only one they try, but if they are able to put a leg over or even ride a number of different bikes they learn want they don’t like is more important then what they do sometimes

[@petervautmans199]

I started out on the S1000XR and could not have been happier. I was fed up with traffic and wanted to start commuting on a motorcycle. Because I am 6'3 and 250 lbs, i did not want a small bike. I also wanted to start on the definitive bike, because I did not want to re-enter discussions with the wife about getting a bigger bike. I bought the S1000XR in mai 2020 and use it in the Brussels, Belgium area. (This week in freezing and rainy weather). Today I have 71 000 kms on the counter. With the nannies, the rider modes and the fantastic quickshifter, the XR did not pose any problems for me.

[@CanyonChasers]

Thats a LOT of bike! Haha, but you make an excellent point, right. I'm guessing you are not 18, but a grown up, so whats the problem right? Plus wiht power modes, you can tone the bike down to help speed up the learning curve.

[@petervautmans199]

​​​53 years old with over 1 million carmiles and hgv licence If i would have done this on my 18, i would probably not have lived to be 50

[@CanyonChasers]

Right! But as a grown-up, it's brilliant!

[@DB-so8zc]

Great content as always. Started on a 3rd gen SV650. Loved that bike did some touring, trackdays and backroad riding. Sold the SV and bought a 18' 765 RS. That bike was a riot! Great for trackdays and back road riding. I found out that my 60 year body tended to ache after long days in the saddle when touring. Traded it in on a 20' Ninja 1000 SX and I have to say the bike, for me, is fantastic. Eats up highway miles, you can have fun on the twisties in the mountains or just running errands around town. Super comfortable ergos and plenty of power I plan on doing a trackday with it in the near future just for grins and giggles! Keep up the great work and ride safe!

[@CanyonChasers]

YES! And thats exactly why Naked bikes are so great!

[@NeonNick24]

I started riding just a couple years ago on a 2nd generation SV650S. I use it for fun commuting and occasional light touring, and it works great for those purposes. My wife, who is of smaller stature, started on a Rebel 300, and she loves it.

[@farizshj]

My first bike is Triumph Street Triple 765. It's true like what you said. It can do everything but a master of none. Now I know what I want in a bike. I'm more of a Sport Touring kind of guy and I see myself owning a BMW R1250RS one day.

[@CanyonChasers]

Nice! Thats a similar path to what a lot of riders take.

[@Corkelfinn]

Great advice as always. I picked a Ducati monster 1200s as my first “real” bike. I love it still, but it was a mistake. I picked it because it is the best looking naked bike on the market (IMO) and it had a single sided swing arm. I knew I wanted a naked for the neutral geometry (this is my only bike so a jack of all trades was the right fit for me) but I let the sex appeal of a Ducati cloud my better judgment. It a hard to maneuver at low speeds, brutally expensive to maintain, and I’ve never even taken it out of low modes because that engine is massively more than I needed. After 3 years I think I’m finally getting used to it enough to be comfortable, but a smaller, cheaper bike to get used to would have been a better first step so I could have approached a Ducati with more confidence at the outset. But, I wanted a Ducati and I wanted a naked and I wanted a single sided swing arm. That left me with one choice, and I got it and I love it 10,000 miles later. Even if it terrifies me to even look at it some days…

[@CanyonChasers]

Ducati used to have the Monster 796 that had the SSSA. When I worked at a Ducati shop, I sold tons of those because they had all the cool things, but in a really friendly package. I really wish they'd bring that bike back.

[@irideaduck939]

@@CanyonChasers @Corkelfinn my first bike was a Ducati Monster 696 which I gave to my wife when I replaced it with a Ducati 899. I've had lots of folks ask me about the maintenance on these bikes, but at the end of the day it has been reasonable. I still have not had a bike with a single sided swing arm ... but never say never! At the end of the day my 899 has more performance than I'm able to take advantage of. I do enjoy passing folks with more horsepower than my bike while making laps on the track.

[@pmdinaz]

It took 25 bikes to figure out what I like. I like em all! I finally settled on a Bonneville and a Tiger. I still wish I had my Softail for leisurely rides because it was so comfortable, but the Tiger is equally (just a bit different) as comfortable. I miss the power of my 'busa and ZX10 and torque of my SuperHawk and Speed Triple, but the Bonneville (Speed Twin) has *_plenty_* of power and is easier to ride at the end of the day. Happy trails fellow riders! Go ride em all and buy what makes you smile.

[@CanyonChasers]

Thats a pretty great list of bikes! I've owned several of those myself!

[@robbo8444]

Awesome video. Thank you. Your way of explaining things is second to none.

[@123mirc]

As a new rider I was wondering what kind of motorcycle I should buy. I was searching for used motorcycles in a shop's deposit, and found a Yamaha FZ6, but I did not like the sound of it. Then I caught a glimps of a white/blue Suzuki Gladius 650, and the V2 engine's sound just mesmerized me. So I've got myself that naked bike, with neutral geometry and I love it. Waiting for the weather to warm up, and I will go on touring this year. Maybe I am an ADV type of guy, but to find that out, I have a good starting point. Thank you for this amazing video and great advice!

[@johnlenart597]

Shopping at multiple dealers and finding no more than a 500cc used bike is my suggestion. After the first season you'll know if riding is the pleasure you thought it would be or a mistake without spending a fortune. Safe riding gear and proper training is also important. Good luck, hope to see you down the road.!!

[@ronaldjohnson1474]

Also, the money saved can buy nice safety gear, because any "motorcyclist" who says they never fell down never rode.

[@machinedgod]

My first bike was FZ6. My second bike was R1. My third bike was R1. My fourth bike was R1M. Shortly said - I absolutely agree with the video, you should not listen to "common wisdoms", but get a bike that will suit you and your personality well. When I passed my exam, my instructor pointed at my throttle and front brake and left me with these parting words - "All being said and done - your head is right here. Treat this with respect, and you'll live a long and happy life." Needless to say I'm still living a long and happy life 😂

[@CanyonChasers]

You had a wise coach!

[@KinahxiPlays]

I’ve been interested in learning how to ride for at least a few years and maybe a lot longer than that to lesser degrees, but the timing and everything else involved hasn’t lined up for me yet. I’ve seen a lot of videos of recommendations for someone starting to ride for a long time and this is by far one of the best I’ve watched so far. Most of the others I’ve seen are like “here are what I believe are some of the top choices for x type of bike” and then more videos for other types of bikes. And then another channel will feature the same or similar bikes. I’ll definitely be checking out this channel a lot more than some of the other ones out there.

[@CanyonChasers]

Thank you!

[@Justin-tp3lr]

I got an Indian scout rogue sixty as a first bike. I'm 6'1", about 180 pounds, yes it's a bigger bike but unlike a sport bike the power delivery is different. With it being 550 pounds wet and a lower center of gravity, it is very manageable. I'm also 39 ( I got in the game a little late) so I'm not going to show off. I am learning and plan to ride my own ride.

[@CanyonChasers]

That’s such a cool bike too! Nicely done!

[@BlindIo42]

Great advice - I started out on a cruiser (1986 Shadow 500) and found quickly that I was interested in riding twisty canyon roads. I wish I could go back and show this to my younger self, I would have had more years of really enjoyable riding and skill progression.

[@CanyonChasers]

Couldn’t agree more!

[@andrewvillavicencio8496]

Awesome, my first bike was a 1986 Shadow as well, great bike!!

[@stilljay4409]

Very educating and entertaining. Now i know my bike pretty well. Thank you for this.

[@CanyonChasers]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@PaulDinwiddie]

This is spectacular! I am so impresed and delighted by you explaing this topic; it's extremely helpful for bike owners to understand more than the actual riding skills (of course that is imporant. Nonetheless, fully comphrehending EVERYTHING about the specifics will cause the ride to be the safest and most delightful time a person can have! Thank you, again!

[@frederickking1660]

Great advice as always. I have been on the receiving end of a bad leader. And more and more I take the lead and have pissed of a friend. Riding together is fun but can be complicated. You hit the nail on the head. Ride on.

[@justahasbeen2728]

Love your videos and the knowledge you share. I wish i would have done more research prior to my first bike purchase. I still would have gotten the style, just not the bike. I'd recommend to go to a reputable dealer. They should help explain and fit your bike to your frame better. My local dealer (rural Wyoming) knew what a motorcycle was and there ended his knowledge. I was blinded by my desire of an iron horse and have a little buyer's regret. I'll be better informed and better prepared next time.

[@CanyonChasers]

Great points! I did ton's of research, but was too impressionable - which is how I ended up in a similar situation. There is something to be said for listening to your heart, right?

[@williammahaffy4642]

As a returning rider in the sexagenarian range (LOVE that word!), my re-starter bike was 500cc, underpowered for it's weight with decent bakes and a comfortable seat for my fat ass (6'2", 250). As I bought it during Covid when the market had a dearth of options, it turned out to be absolutely perfect! Didn't let me get into too much trouble and handled everything I asked of it. Did a day at ChampStreet and, by the end, I was wishing I had more to work with on the track laps. I have upgraded for a big adventure trip but will always love that first ride that got me back on the road safely. "There's always a first bike but never a last"

[@CanyonChasers]

I love it. Getting a solid first bike really helps us and prepares us for an even better experience with our next bike.

[@bc49_49]

Best explanation of bike trail I've ever seen in a video. Excellent work!!

[@CanyonChasers]

Wow, thanks!

[@Jagknorr]

I think the first thing anyone considers about motorcycles is actually how much do they want to spend $$$. 😂 This is really good info but understanding and diving into trail and rake numbers isnt needed for 1st time noobies. The bikes all look like what they are made to do (for the most part). So figuring out what you want to do with said motorcycle will direct you to the proper category. its just we don’t actually know what we want to do with the first bike because we don’t have any riding experience to even know what a bike feels like lol. Understanding trail and rake wont make any difference. This info is more relevant for the 2nd bike! 😁

[@CanyonChasers]

We waffled back and forth on this a lot - but the most common questions we get are "what bike should I buy and what makes them different".

[@getdownmikelove]

I like that the Tuono is the bike on display for discussion on beginner bikes. I own a Tuono and am glad it wasn't my starting point.

[@BlindIo42]

Sometimes you use what's in the garage - geometry is geometry.

[@CanyonChasers]

It was either that or strip the 390 and it was about 40-degrees F in the garage when I taped this. I could barely feel my fingers. Haha.

[@getdownmikelove]

@@BlindIo42 definitely

[@getdownmikelove]

@@CanyonChasers Great video by the way!

[@masogakekana1606]

I went for little research and with my heart. Ended up with a Ducati Monster 821 🥲 superb. Kept in nanny modes for a long time, ended up preferring the feedback and performance of the touring mode. Never had the smallest bike nor was I ever left far behind, so 'street cred' remained intact.

[@CanyonChasers]

Oh yeah! Power modes are really great, right. Allowing us to tone down an engine while we figure things out! Also, that 821 is indeed superb! Great choice!

[@Corkelfinn]

Great bike. If they made it with a single sided swing arm this is what I would have picked. The stealth paint job was wonderful to look at.

[@masogakekana1606]

@@Corkelfinn 1200s bug. On my "MUST OWN" list.

[@BlindIo42]

Power modes are great, but it's the brakes that worry me on some bikes. I see sales guys pushing 1000cc supersports on new riders and say "leave it in rain mode". But rain mode doesn't address the unforgiving high-power brakes that are designed for highly skilled and experienced riders. I see as many or more crashes due to abrupt braking on super sports as I do going too fast or whiskey-throttle.

[@briarfox637]

I ended up with a '22 Bonneville T100. I believe the geometry is absolutely wonderful. The engine is buttery smooth, handling is precise, power is present.

[@CanyonChasers]

Agreed. That’s such a great bike!

[@briarfox637]

@@CanyonChasers I've had my eye on a Ducati Monster as well.

[@TheDanSebastian]

I am always shocked at the quality of the content on this channel. So well explained and produced! Congrats. cheers from Brasil!

[@CanyonChasers]

Thank you very much!

[@amohammed3337]

If you are a beginner rider then get something you enjoy looking at, because you will spend as much time looking at it as you do riding it.

[@CanyonChasers]

Yes! 💯

[@Mr450pro]

Late January I bought a Grom, this was a huge mistake! The internet and KZbin has hyped that bike like crazy. It has nothing to do with a motorcycle! Feels like riding moped and can’t keep up with traffic👎🏻 I ended up trading it in for the new Honda Hornet and lost a ton of money on it. But the Honda just put a big smile on my face every time I ride it. I don’t know if it’s a good beginner bike, but my plan was to buy some crash bars for it and do some parking lot practice plus taking courses,both safety and track courses so I get the whole way around. For now I just stay close to home and practice my riding on roads I know 😊

[@CanyonChasers]

The Hornet is a great bike! Watch this other video we just finished next. It may adjust your thoughts on parking lots. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pYTcn2WFabZshKc

[@freeloader69]

Currently gaining experience on the same bike I rode in my learner course: the HD Street 500. I actually bought one of the bikes from my class. I love it! I don’t know if my next bike will be a cruiser or sport bike, but I’m having fun learning in the meantime.

[@CanyonChasers]

That is the right answer! That street 500 is an awesome bike and it'll help you discover the kind of riding you enjoy most!

[@freeloader69]

@@CanyonChasers The best part: it only had 1,600 miles on it, all of them in a parking lot and never going over 3rd gear! 😅 Sure it had been dumped numerous times, but it had handlebar extensions, and front and rear crash bars. Not a scratch on it! 🤘🏾 BTW - Thanks for all your videos. I’m really enjoying learning from them. I’m planning on changing the format of my YT channel to chronicle a journey around the country on my motorcycle Scooter Tramp Scotty-style, and will most likely have a lot of your videos in a suggested rider safety course playlist or two for my viewers. I’ve got most of the gear I’ll need and should be getting off the ground in a few months. Just getting all the riding knowledge and experience in now.

[@deauvilledad07]

Great video Dave. I've been riding for years but it's right what they say . Everyday is a school day. Even I learnt something. . Stay safe 🤓🏍️

[@CanyonChasers]

Awesome! Thank you!

[@thefellcor]

The best beginner bike would be the cheapest, manual geared and smallest cc, with 125 being a reasonable start point to being with. Learn all the basics on that bike, decide you still want to bike, even if crashed on it, then buy your next bike. Test out by renting for a day, different types of bike if you still unsure to have a feel between the extremes, such as a sport or cruiser. Then buy the bike you would want as if it's the last bike you able to ride or ever buy again.

[@CanyonChasers]

Little bikes RULE! You learn more, faster on a small bike!

[@Fieltrom]

Short answer. Ninja 400. Can't beat it price and leads it class....slipper clutch is just half a clutch replace for faster launches. Cruiser, vulcan s 650 remove a screw and remove restriction connector for full power. Cmx500 for short people....

[@CanyonChasers]

Kawasaki knocked or out of the park with the Ninja 400!

[@vincenttarquini4235]

Your points are so right on. My beginner bike is a Victory Vision Tour which is 900lbs--but I have 3 million miles as a tractor-trailer driver and am 6'4" and 280Lbs. I relearned how to ride after a 45 year break from any motorcycle. I took the MSF course 3 years ago on a 250cc Suzuki. While the course was not difficult, trying to ride that minibike was miserable, as you can imagine. I picked the Victory because it fit right and I knew I would drop it at some point. I did drop it about 4 times in my first 3 months of riding it, fully stopped. It is designed for that and not even a scratch. Today I do everything from work commutes to 11 day tours with it and have no intentions of selling it. It clicks all the right boxes for me, even riding the occasional unpaved road, which we have a lot of in South Dakota. If I were to sell it, I might consider a big ADV bike which at 600Lbs would be a break, even considering the higher center of gravity. The most important thing is to get a motorcycle that checks the boxes and sits right when you get on it. You will grow into it and most important do not ride beyond your skill level. Practice, practice, and more practice!

[@CanyonChasers]

You should see me when I sit on a Victory Vision. It looks like a little kid wearing his dads cowboy boots and suit coat.

[@vincenttarquini4235]

@@CanyonChasers What a mind picture. Thanks for the laugh!

[@rjtastic]

Great Video! So, Chill, Calm, and Informative! I use to always mix up rake and trail cuz I was always confused about what is what? But now, I don't think I'll ever mistake one for the other! Awesome video dude, Almost felt like a Movie! I Wish I get to see you Review Motorcycles....

[@CanyonChasers]

Thank you, and we're working on it. :)

[@gerardfields1568]

You said good words and I appreciate what you said sir iam from Ireland sir .

[@Latitude3324]

Dave as usual I love the fact that you mention there’s no bad bike but that the best bike is one we want. Been on naked for almost 40 years now and you just told me why 😂 love going on track but also love to commute or tour with my wife 😉

[@CanyonChasers]

Naked bikes are pretty awesome!

[@Latitude3324]

@@CanyonChasers I need to find out the email about the space vessel you linked the SDR to. Rewatched this old video yesterday 😉

[@Szlejer]

Of course it exists. The lighter, the less engine displacement, the more forgiving, the more user friendly, the better. I attended plenty of riding courses, never ever seen a beginner who did better on a heavier, less user friendly bike.

[@CanyonChasers]

YES! Less is more! Light is right! Riders will learn more faster on a smaller/lighter bike.

[@JCintheBCC]

The other point that I have passed along to a few people interested in trying riding: a relaxed riding position allows better visibility on the bike. A sportbike with low clip-ons or a cruiser with tall bars that hold your arms outstretched can make it harder for a new rider to look around in traffic and maintain awareness. A more relaxed riding position simply makes it easier to keep an eye on vehicles around you, and, especially for a new rider, that can have a big impact on confidence and safety when riding. Another tick in the box for standard naked bikes.

[@CanyonChasers]

I honestly had that tid-bit in the video, but I cut it out at the last second - maybe I should have left it in because you are exactly right!

[@stevemoore9951]

Greetings from the PPRC great video as always.🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@CanyonChasers]

Thanks 👍

[@AbdulsCycles]

Such a best beginner motovlog.... thanks for sharing

[@CanyonChasers]

You bet!

[@spkrdesigner]

I love you bro. Trying to learn some tips and tricks

[@CanyonChasers]

Happy to hear that!

[@FlesHBoX]

Hands down the best "what beginner bike?" video on youtube.

[@CanyonChasers]

Wow, thanks!

[@adriennehamm2689]

Love my MT03 as a new rider

[@CanyonChasers]

Its such an excellent bike!

[@ZediMaster]

Gr8 vid. Ride safe, god bless u.

[@CanyonChasers]

Thanks, you too!

[@lennieblake3444]

This is grea5. 8ve been looking for more information on the science side of motorcycling. Courses that contain the info are mostly reserved for experienced riders. Learners in the UK prettybmuch have to figure it out solo, and pass their tests before they can access advanced courses. The kind that talk about how the machines actually work. Yet, if we could understand the machine, we would then have the awareness to build on our skills... knowledge is power! insane way of things iwhere I lisve, in my opinion. DAS corses dont teach us this element. They only focus on shiwing what the test examiner wants see.

[@Remymoto]

I think the only thing I'd add is that folks shouldn't get too wrapped up in bike #1 being perfect. Pick a style but then focus on a more beginner friendly model first. Just getting out there and riding will help you figure out what matters to you way more than browsing the internet or even sitting on them in the dealerships. As a new rider myself, I'm constantly reminded that a bigger, heavier bike would be way more difficult to learn on. I make a mistake at low speed and it's a minor oops, but I know that if I was on a much taller or heavier bike I'd have had a lot more trouble.

[@CanyonChasers]

This is exactly right. It’s almost as emotional as practical. Get the one you like. Get the color you like.

[@peterkeats593]

Some advice that was given to me. Get out and test ride bikes you can get so much from doing that. Went from sports bike to VFR800x crossrunner just awesome

[@CanyonChasers]

I sure wish more places offered test rides

[@peterkeats593]

@@CanyonChasers if they want the business they should I live in New Zealand

[@CanyonChasers]

Mmmm. New Zealand! I wish you guys would let us move there. My best mate lives in Omaru. NZ is my favorite place in all the world.

[@peterkeats593]

@@CanyonChasers yes it is a good place for sure. Keep up the good work

[@SuperQuantum69]

Nice video, so informative! Thanks!

[@CanyonChasers]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@Imotopilot]

Nicely done! You coming to COTA for MotoGP next month?

[@CanyonChasers]

I'd love to, but it's not looking good so far. :(

[@sketchmoon3333]

rode a hornet for driving school and i did not like the position. i did like the way it handle, how light it felt at 40-50 km/h.. and rode a honda shadow 1100.. wheelbase to long and the weight a bit to big for my taste.. that's why i'll buy a honda super magna.. shorter wheelbase, a sportbike engine (750 v4), looks great, handles great for a cruiser.. and it's lighter than the shadow

[@wtf235235]

Have my well deserved like sir

[@CanyonChasers]

Thank you kindly

[@THEREALZENFORCE]

Duke 390, RC 390, Z400, Ninja 400, MT-03, R3, Rebel 500, CL500 Scrambler. Or A2 (35kW, 46hp) restricted : Tuono 660, RS 660, Tiger Sport 660, MT-07, Ninja 650, CB650R, CBR650R, GSX-8S, Hornet 750, SV 650. Any of these are good beginner bikes.

[@CanyonChasers]

Every single one of them is an excellent choice. Which one speaks to your soul?

[@THEREALZENFORCE]

@@CanyonChasers from the above, my soul would choose the Aprilia RS 660 : great looks, great engine (sounds like a mini version of their legendary V4), great sound, great brakes, cruise control, 6 axis IMU, cornering ABS, and a comfy seating position triangle like a sports tourer and not like an uncomfortable modern liter sports bike, a good daily commuter, a great twisties bike (the Tuono 660 Factory is a bit better there), a good highway bike, a good 600cc track bike, and a decent weekend trip bike with soft side cases, all for 11k.

[@CanyonChasers]

You’ll have to check out our next podcast. We interview an Aprilia designer and we both gush over that 660!

[@THEREALZENFORCE]

@@CanyonChasers Thank you for the information. I will watch that podcast. Have a nice day and ride safe.

[@jorelplay8738]

04:55 hey, that's my baby!!! :D

[@francoalfaro7750]

Great Video 😊 Thank You 😊

[@CanyonChasers]

Thank you too!

[@grumpyrider8801]

Perfectly summed up!

[@CanyonChasers]

Thanks!

[@KrazyKanucker]

I bought my first road bike at almost 50 yrs old last year and put 10K KM on it in 5 months. 🧡 KTM Duke 390 🧡

[@CanyonChasers]

We are such a fan of that bike!

[@KrazyKanucker]

@@CanyonChasers I'm glad I didn't buy a bike like the triumph street twin for example. I've ridden similar bikes, around10 bikes in total and the Duke fits what I want best. Such a fun bike to ride with a list of reasons why it's so good.

[@ramblinjay3816]

Man i love hayabusa's but i don't think i would ever have the gonads to ever ride one. Like i seriously really want one, I ended up getting a Sporty 48 even before my first choice of a KTM 390.

[@ramblinjay3816]

This is why i think i should probably stick to my guns and approach a pan ameria in the future lol. Best of both worlds i suppose.

[@CanyonChasers]

We own a 390 and can't say enough good about it

[@vaportrail226]

The Busa isn't as bad as people say. I bought mine brand new in '05. Have over 140k miles and still ride it daily. It's not like a sport bike, all twitchy and angry. If you keep the engine under 4500 rpm's it's just a normal motorcycle. They're comfortable, smooth, and rock solid reliable. 18 years in and I still love it!

[@dzilen]

Honda CBR500 gets my vote!

[@CanyonChasers]

Love that bike!

[@andregrastyan3403]

Cool video, thanks.

[@CanyonChasers]

Glad you liked it!

[@beanwithbaconmegarocket]

Using that heavy-corporate stock footage in between the riding clips was making me laugh. Especially that guy at 6:04 who found the prefect motorcycle stats online.

[@CanyonChasers]

I LOLd when I came across that shot and had to use it. It was actually the very last edit I made before uploading the video this morning.

[@theestate12]

Your point on the importance of trail is well taken when selecting a motorcycle. One number tells a lot. Passing 60, the first specification I consider is weight. The lighter the better. Some bags (wait) invision themselves appearing cool/macho/hell-raiser, riding slow, and making others annoyed with cannon-like exhaust. To my point. kzbin.info/www/bejne/iKDNo6Kvarp9pqc This bag is full throttle in the straights, then coasting in the curves. He could of simply accepted his motorcycle for what it is and let me by. This is one bag who could have benefitted from your video and chose the proper motorcycle for canyon chasing in East Canyon. What is the difference between a Hoover and a Harley - that would be the location of the dirt bag. Ride on.

[@CanyonChasers]

Ha! You sent me that video a while ago and we even used it in an older video!

[@AS.291]

@canyon chasers Have you had a chance to ride the new speed 400/scrambler 400x from triumph? I prefer the speed 400 since it helps me flat foot but the riding posture is way better on the scrambler 400x. Is it possible to change the handlebar on the speed 400 and get a similar riding posture as the one on the scrambler?

[@SWTrailsAndWheels]

Yamaha MT03

[@CanyonChasers]

One of my favorites!

[@arch417powersports]

Ninja 400 for sure.

[@CanyonChasers]

It’s a brilliant bike!

[@rileylofin7653]

Could I start on a cbr600rr or a duke 790 or 890 or a gxsr 600 could I get one of those as a beginner motorcycle which do you think is best or you can add one

[@BlueDevilMoto]

The dream is to someday buy a showroom bike, one that’s really only just mine from the beginning

[@CanyonChasers]

It’s really awesome not having to deal with all the previous owners “upgrades”

[@Fee.1]

I disagree that the looks of the bike should inform the first nine purchase, especially when you have no idea what the ramifications are from those looks and the sacrifices that are made to allow for those looks etc

[@CanyonChasers]

I mean, you're not wrong, but for some people, the heart wants what the heart wants. Even though I personally don't think anybody should start on a sport bike, for some people thats the whole reason for riding.

[@Krom1hell]

The right beginner bike does not exist...... yet I cannot picture miself riding another bike than that that I have...... You will know deep down inside you what is the right bike for you the moment you ride it....

[@CanyonChasers]

There is such joy in getting our perfect bike!

[@unkindguy88]

You mean to say BUY A HYPER NAKED like the Aprilia Tuono V4

[@californiapoontappa]

The best does exist but does the perfect?

[@CanyonChasers]

Perfect for me, or perfect for you? If I was starting out, yet knowing what I know now, I think my perfect first bike would be Aprilia RS660. Would that be yours?

[@californiapoontappa]

@@CanyonChasers starting over I'd start on a ninja 400 probably the 2 cylinder even tho I'd rather have that new four cylinder 400 but I don't think that's a great beginner bik

[@CanyonChasers]

That 400RR four cylinder I thing would be a banger of a first bike!

[@californiapoontappa]

@@CanyonChasers you don't think it would be a bit much? I feel it's perfect for experienced riders who want a good track bike or really want to work on taking their riding to the next level... Anyways tho I always share your videos cuz they are great lessons for learning to ride canyons of just in general

[@BlindIo42]

@@californiapoontappa It depends on the rider, I'm a big guy and a 660 parallel twin would be a perfectly reasonable starter bike from most manufacturers. The RS660 is a neutral riding position; agile, but not unstable; good braking but not grabby; fun, but forgiving; power to get out of it's own way, but not in a way that will bite you like most inline-4s.

[@RideWithRen]

666th like! 😈 Great video as usual!

[@CanyonChasers]

Awesome! Thank you!

[@castor5001]

you got everything wrong... begginer bike is a Yamaha pw 50. hahaha. begginer bike for adults... do not forget kids

[@CanyonChasers]

Well, yeah. If only we could get more kids started riding early, right? The would would be a better place!

[@castor5001]

@@CanyonChasers you and others you tubers have a lot followers. made a KZbin Road race national championship 10 and under for kids.

[@jamesmclaughlin3460]

My first bike was a 1981 Yamaha Seca 550 remember 550s lol. I'm showing my age. Love standard or negate bikes. Always had one. I'm riding my FZ1 2009.from the top of new jersey to nort Carolina. Skyline drive to blue ridge parkway. I'm 62 and loving riding. First bike is very important get the right one.great advice.

[@CanyonChasers]

Oh yeah, I remember those. Remember the Seca Turbo and the CX500 Turbos? They were crazy!

[@jamesmclaughlin3460]

@@CanyonChasers yes I do I'm a Yamaha guy that's just me. Ihad the 550 the 750 Seca also. Love my fz1 know thrills naked 150hp motorcycle. I just love mid 2 thousand naked bikes . Me and the bike no computer messing with my ride.

[@CanyonChasers]

Right on. My first street bike was an 83 Yamaha XZ550 Vision.

[@jamesmclaughlin3460]

@@CanyonChasers that was a twin right

[@CanyonChasers]

Yep. A little V-twin - with a section of frame that bolted out so you could adjust the valves. Strangely that had an adverse impact on the bikes handling. Haha.