CHOOSING PLAYOFF TEAMS WE WERE WRONG ABOUT

So, the Rangers turned out to not be frauds. In this episode of the BarDown podcast, DZ, Corwin, Luca and Jesse discuss which playoff teams they turned out to be wrong about.

[@jennaschwinna2347]

Huge props to Jesse for mentioning the Blues. Everyone else asks like they don't exsist so I always appreciate Jesse for giving them screen time.

[@jasonmaull2146]

It’s so annoying that the Blues are never talked about. They are literally the second best team in the west and have a really bright future. Luka and Corwin are too biased to even acknowledge them. Every time they are brought up they’re immediately dismissed.

[@lime7494]

@@jasonmaull2146 well, when your team doesn’t denounce racism towards an opposing player in which his hatred wasn’t even his fault, it was your own teams. Not to mention David Perron trying to elbow the same guy after he scored a goal. Oh, and you also probably know people despise your goalie? There’s a reason people don’t talk about you. It’s because they don’t like you.

[@theawkwardgamer8798]

@@lime7494 the racism shit was completely overblown, and anyone who truly believes that Blues fans dislike Kadri because of his race is delusional

[@lime7494]

@@theawkwardgamer8798 the fans aren’t the problem, it’s the fact that your organization left NO COMMENT about the subject when asked.

[@mason17hockey]

lol this is entertanment😂

[@QenaitheCustodianGuard]

Wicked mullet Corwin

[@MuRzeMoTions]

yo anyone know where i can get the hat jessie has?

[@newyorkcrawlers4454]

Plain and Simple

[@seanmoloney9182]

Jessie told Edmonton to get a goalie and they got jack Campbell

[@ellaenman4049]

I'm always looking for hockey channels on KZbin and I'm so glad I found this one! You guys are so funny and I'm always impressed by your hockey knowledge during the quizzes. Keep up the great content!

[@NewYorkRangersFanForLife]

is it just me or does Luca look like MIka Zibanijad?

[@11DNA11]

Imagine calling the Rangers frauds, while your team hasn't made past round 1 in 2 decades :D

[@scrat4379]

All I have to say to Corwin..another year John Tavares didn't help end Toronto's Stanley Cup drought.

[@PlasticMan052]

Imagine emphasizing that nobody can have an opinion if their own team sucks

[@slidingpenguin-6]

🤣💀

[@coolcats367]

Lmao Tru let's go Rangers

[@kirkcousins9494]

i love it- from a rangers fan

[@dylanevans7529]

Luca with the most outrageous take, Mackinnon Mckar> McDavid Draisatl??????????????? WHAT McDavid>Everyone else

[@wildvideos2000]

Luca is so delusional... he is so bias to the avalanche, like dude there are more teams in the NHL, I get they are you’re favorite team but holy shit at least give another team credit

[@lucacelebre88]

Who didn’t I give credit to?

[@wildvideos2000]

@@lucacelebre88 The blues...and almost every other team that’s not Colorado. You literally said you would have Cale and Mackinin over Leon and McDavid, that take is insane 😂

[@lucacelebre88]

@@wildvideos2000 I gave credit to the Oilers, to the Flames consistently, I loved the Wild this year was high on Vegas, really like the Penguins and Leafs. What do you define as giving credit lol want me to talk about how good the Blues are? I didn’t think they were that’s my opinion again doesn’t mean you have to resort to name calling. And why is that insane? If you don’t agree that’s fine, Makar is a generational player and so is MacKinnon. Closer argument than I think you think

[@wildvideos2000]

@@lucacelebre88 There are people better then Cale. Adam Fox is an example, I didn’t hear anyone mention his name one time. But you refuse to believe anyone is better then your avs guys

[@lucacelebre88]

@@wildvideos2000 not true at all. I’ve said McDavid is the best player in hockey and Auston Matthews is better than anyone on the Avs. For my money Cale Makar is the best d-man in hockey. Adam fox is unreal, but I’m taking Makar because he’s much more dynamic offensively and his defence is really freaking good too. Also, the Avs have 2 or 3 of the top 15 players in hockey, including arguably 2 in the top 5 so kinda hard to say there are players better than their best when their best players are some of the best in the league.

[@nyrgaming3091]

If y’all jinx the rangers now I’m gonna cry lol son of a bitch….

[@williambennett5989]

Rangers have won there last game this season already

[@MichaelSmith-cj4be]

@@williambennett5989 that’s cute

[@tamman994]

Tampa Bay finna 3peat

[@mrmike4278]

Lmao L

[@TheSnapback]

@@mrmike4278 Rangers were doomed since the beginning lol. 20 games in 40 days, that's tough for a team with not much experience. Rangers simply used the last energy they had for home, and squeezed out the last of their juice in game 3. You could immediately tell they were beat up and tired in game 4, it had nothing to do with how well Tampa was doing. Tampa had a 9 day break, there would be no reason for them to be tired. Maybe rusty, but once they played 2 games they shook off that rust. Rangers had no breaks, so it isn't surprising to me that this series ended in 6. Rangers simply had nothing left in them, but it was extremely impressive that they even made it that far. Rangers are going to make it even further next year, I am sure of it.

[@CheeseGrater69]

And the devils have the worst power play, and I don't even wanna talk about how their goalies have been playing

[@TH-tl6sy]

The fall of TSN is the most epic collapse since the fall of Rome. I remember when it had the best commentators and analytics in the business. Now it's got nobody internet randos and formula 1 crap. You'd think they'd at earn ad revenue for their failing network by putting up videos of their experienced network people giving analysis.

[@zache5486]

First off, props to Jessie for being the only one that the Blues get any respect from. Like I didn’t expect to hear much for a teamed bounced in the second round, but they did beat the Wild and came an OT loss and a last second goal away from beating an Avs team that’s pantsing everyone else so far. Secondly, my pick for most expensive jersey is going to be very specific. When Toronto finally wins the cup, the Conn Smythe winner auctions a game worn jersey for charity, and some rich dude plunks down a stupid amount of money in the celebratory haze. Assuming we aren’t living in some sort of Star Trek post scarcity society by then.

[@jasonsmith5226]

I said the Blues would be our toughest opponent in the West,& turned out they were. But you kinda left a bit out. Yes we won game 1 in OT,& completely dominated the game. Yes,we got lucky at the end of game 6...after dominating analytically the entire game also. You have no clue if you'd won in OT,had Helm not scored. We only know you got largely outplayed,& we were the better team that night. OT can go either way,ask Edmonton last night. Similar situation facing elimination,except they played a much closer territorial game,than you in game 6. They might've even slightly outplayed us...you can't honestly say St Louis outplayed us analytically in game 6. But sure,you MIGHT have kinda stolen it,had it got to OT. And you still would've had to win game 7 here. Certainly possible,but you act like it's a certainty. Also,you fail to mention,if not for a historic collapse,(& also comeback) in game 5...you easily could've lost in 5. Certainly possible,but hardly likely. Just cracks me up how biased some fans are. Yes,if everything had gone your way,you were the 1 team that COULD HAVE beat us,so far. But if merely 1 or 2 more things go as they usually do...you lose in 5. Of course we got some breaks...so did you in 2019-all Cup champs do. In the end,Avs in 6 is about what it should've ended up....although analytically it looked more like Avs in 5,through the course of the series. But I have total respect for the Championship mettle,& intangibles of St Louis. I think going through you-prepared the Avs,& helped them develop resilence they didn't have in prior seasons. But let's not get ridiculous-you weren't close to the better team that series. But you could've had a CHANCE to steal it. And before you whine bout Binnington,as I know you will...almost nobody outside of Missouri,thought that was dirty by Kadri. Sure it hurt you-youd rather your Cup winning goalie in. But Husso was your starter most the season,& started the playoffs-hardly your normal backup. We have won 4 playoff games with an actual backup goalie,(granted a good backup)-& more importantly won 2 playoff games,& got to OT of game 7 vs Dallas in the bubble...WITH A BAD 3RD STRING GOALIE-Michael Hutchinson. Not his fault-he did his best,he's just not very good. We also had like 5 other regulars injured, including Landeskog. And Husso is Patrick Roy or Broduer,compared to Michael Hutchinson. You guys have a great team,& got some bad breaks...but not close to what we dealt with in the bubble,& while what you said had some truth in it...it completely misrepresented the facts overall,& ignored all data against you. Let me get this straight-when you lose a close game,or even an unlikely result like the end of game 6-it was bad luck,& you really should have won-whether you got badly outplayed analytically or not. But when you win a close game,or have an unlikely comeback,or result-it just counts as a win,& no other analysis is needed? I get it now.

[@zaneps151]

@@jasonsmith5226 as a blues fan, I’m over it when it comes to Kadri and binnington My belief is he meant to hit binnington but he didn’t try to injure him which isn’t out of the realm of possibility with Kadri With that being said I agree that the Avs are a much better team but the blues did have a realistic chance of beating them in that series which most Avs fans won’t admit In 2019 the only series the blues were favored to win was the Dallas series and sometimes the better team doesn’t win And to counter the argument that you can’t blame injuries, you can’t say the series in the bubble would’ve had the same outcome if the Avs were entirely healthy against Dallas

[@jasonsmith5226]

@@zaneps151 I agree with all of that actually. Except I don't think Kadri purposely hurt him,but I'm not gonna say it is impossible,with his history. He certainly isn't a bit scout,just cuz he plays for my team-lol. Actually this season he has been on his best behavior,cuz he knows he gets no benefit of doubt,& 1 incident could cost him millions. That was a completely fair,& measured response. You are correct,I can't guarantee we win that series,cuz it's possible Grubbauer doesn't play well...he did it in game 6 vs Vegas last year. Though he was also great early that series. But you are correct I don't know for sure we win. However,if we are talking extreme probabilities-when you lose in OT of game 7,& blow 4 leads,in game 7...AND get destroyed by their PP-theres a very good chance if Grubbauer is in net,instead of Michael Hutchinson-not to mention,half our PK wasn't hurt,& Landeskog our captain isn't hurt-odds are we win that series,only cuz it was so close with all that happening. However,that stuff happens,& I do think it helped build some resilence,& taught us some lessons,that is helping this playoff. And my point also isn't that we would have won the Cup or something...I don't think we would have. I don't think that version had the depth of this year. And more importantly, hadn't yet developed a mental toughness or resilence that only seems to come through tough times/heartbreaking playoff losses. If we were healthy,I don't think we beat TB...we actually probably lose to Vegas in WCFs. As you said we don't know for sure,but I think Vegas probably gets to Cup Finals,if we had advanced-instead of Dallas-whether we had those injuries or not. At the time,I figured we would get stomped by Vegas, considering the injuries,& Hutchinson having to play-but I just wanted to end our WCF drought.(18 years at the time). In hindsight I'm glad we didn't,it was more special ending it this year,& going even further. But I was giving you crap,but you seem like a fair,& reasonable Blues fan. I have complete respect for your team,& the Champions on that roster. I said before the playoffs that St Louis was our toughest matchup in the West,& more of it was just intangibles-cuz it's so much different playing a team that THINKS they can a win a Cup,& probably eventually will learn those lessons,(like Edmonton) vs a team that KNOWS they can do it,& actually HOW to do it. I'm not saying once we beat St Louis,I thought Edmonton would be a walk over,(never thought we'd sweep em)-but I did think we had crossed our biggest hurdle-the 2nd round mental thing,but also playing a team full of proven Champions. I thought the Avs were playing somewhat nervous vs St Louis,& getting through them,& past the 2nd round did free us up some. Also the opponent,as tough as McDavid,& Drasaitil are-Oreilly just brings a complete game that is so underrated. McKinnon would never admit publicly that it was "easier" playing those guys-but he did say after the Blues series that O'Reilly is the toughest matchup he's ever faced,& I agree. Cuz he's so tough deffensively. I think it does prove how good the Blues are...& they are a legit contender right now-today. I think you need to improve your blueline,& I have no clue about your FAs/whatever. But if St Louis strengthens their back end a bit,I think they go into next season,with as good of chance as anybody in the West. Total respect for your team & organization...& getting past you guys was more relief than excitement. I didn't want any part of a game 7 vs a team like that. Who won game 7 of the Cup Finals in Boston. I think Edmonton was kinda nervous,& a big intimidated in the games in Denver. I know that wasn't the case with St Louis,& wouldn't have been a factor in game 7. No coincidence we are 35-4-4 at home vs everybody not named the Blues,but 2-3-0 vs you guys.

[@zaneps151]

@@jasonsmith5226 and you’re being respectful back which I appreciate Most Avs fans have so much unearned arrogance which makes it almost impossible to root for them but I’m glad there are fans like you who aren’t so far gone that they think the Avs can’t do anything wrong Our defense will be fine though, Perunovich is going to be an asset and hopefully our version of Makar which is why Leddy won’t be resigned Husso is someone I can either take or leave because he’s so wishy washy If you guys lose, I’d say get a more reliable goalie that doesn’t have to rely on who’s in front of them because kuemper and grubauer are both goalies who are products of who’s in front of them (in my opinion)

[@jasonsmith5226]

@@zaneps151 Agree,same to you.Have a good day bro.

[@grantstegman5116]

I say you do a “nhl goalies” quiz.

[@JeffNelsonBuffalo]

Dz winning the facial hair game.

[@11DNA11]

Canes losing Andersen had NOTHING to do with them losing to the Rangers. Does Andersen score goals? Because that was the issue they had. They couldn't score. So that's a false statement. And complaining about the Rangers as Leafs fans is hilarious. Rangers have 3 lines who can score. The Leafs have 1. THAT'S the difference. Chytil playing 3rd line minutes and has 7 goals in the playoffs. And the whole line of Lafreniere - Chytil - Kakko has been great when they're on the ice.

[@sethmccandless3335]

Oilers and Stars fan here, and we are just happy we beat Calgary and made it to the WCF. We didn't think we would get past the first round with our Swiss cheese defense. McDavid and Drai deserve better.

[@soulesscatastrophe3529]

flames beat one of ur fav teams but ur other fav team beat flames, and srry about the loss y’all need goaltending tho

[@mason17hockey]

lol they do😂

[@scottiepaterson192]

Oilers did exactly what I expected tbh. I had them beating LA in the 1st, and knew they would probably get Calgary in the 2nd and the Oilers have always done well against Calgary for the past few years. Then I had them losing to Colorado in the WCF. I actually half expected Oilers to steal the pacific from Calgary at the end of the season, I didn't think Calgary was going to keep up their good play right to the end to hold onto the lead in the pacific. Flames over achieved this year to be honest, and it really showed even in their series vs Dallas

[@kylepaj2560]

Thank you for the Blues love Jesse

[@davidcampbell9981]

Thanks, Jesse. The Blues get no respect, no respect at all. Actually made Colorado work for it compared to the precipitous drop in competitiveness in the Oilers. I love BarDown but you all rag on the Coyotes more than you praise my Blues.

[@cfairfull8030]

Luca’s bracket is by far the worst one I’ve ever seen.

[@johncox7169]

IF Colorado wins the cup, does Makar win the Conn Smythe? (Unless another player just stands out in the finals.)

[@Legacy13579]

I think mackinnon is the only one with a shot if he goes crazy

[@johncox7169]

@@Legacy13579 Kadri does as well if he returns even with a broken thumb and makes an impact in the finals.

[@awesomematthews1238]

Tampa is winning the cup and Vasi wins it

[@johncox7169]

@@awesomematthews1238 That isn't answering the question. The question was "IF Colorado wins..." the "IF" was in all caps because it was a hypothetical.

[@Legacy13579]

@@awesomematthews1238 I think this is colorados year. Rangers are horrible on 5 on 5 the avs are not. We’ll see how the series goes. Of course tampas gotta close out the series tomorrow

[@ToastedFlowers]

Who's here after Trouba's chicken wing missed?

[@mugmoment]

The oilers are in cap hell right now with both the nuge and nurse deals, plus nobody would want to take Tyson Barrie in a trade. Oilers fans as tough as it is, have to wait another couple years for guys like bouchard and broberg to take that next step up to solidify their back end.

[@EatSleepIceHockey]

Mika is a top 10 center is the league. You’re high if you don’t think he is

[@braydenfletcher8159]

You have to respect Corwin for always saying terrible takes. Reliable for at least 2 trash takes per episode

[@davidfitzpatrick6535]

Honestly I feel like Edmonton has the leafs problem where they have great forwards but no defence and questions in goal. the only difference is the Oilers players aren't A BUNCH OF GREEDY BASTARDS!

[@christyouredumb956]

4 players make up 40% of their cap.

[@Legacy13579]

@@christyouredumb956 3 players take 40 percent of the leafs cap space who cares.

[@christyouredumb956]

@@Legacy13579 his comment they aren’t greedy bastards kinda shows they are. 14 other skaters and 2 goalies on 60% of the cap doesn’t get you far

[@joeroganreal]

@@christyouredumb956 That’s such a stupid thing to say, I’m sorry. Try using capfriendly. You can build a dynasty (without using rookie contracts) with that team and $40M to spare. Obviously it’s not as easy as it sounds but the leafs are close. I hate seeing this all the time. No one said it with Sid and Geno taking up a bunch of cap space for Pitt at the time! It’s only because it’s Toronto. They have room to build and luckily they have two top 10 players in the NHL and two point per game players in Tavares and Nylander

[@neveratinygoldilocks]

you say this like evander kane doesn’t exist

[@Asymmetrical-Saggin]

Corwin is delusional

[@jackharrist8180]

Carolina and Edmonton have the opposite problem. Carolina has too much depth and isnt top heavy enough, whereas Edmonton has stars but no depth players at all.

[@themorethemerrier281]

Nurse will make this kind of money starting next season.

[@jeeplivion]

Kane was the top points producer for the Sharks stop saying he's inflated with mcdavid and drai 🙄🙄

[@pradineski]

I love Jesse but my god I hope the oilers and jets play in the second round and the oil just smack them in 4 or 5. This guy needs some humble pie

[@newyorkcrawlers4454]

Rangers Rule Corwin

[@hky0938]

Mika is a top 10 center in the league

[@untexan]

“The Rangers are frauds” (Rangers reach the conference finals) “We were wrong about the Rangers!” (promptly lose four straight to bow out)

[@CodiTC]

Of course Luca would choose Mak and Makar over McJesus and Leon, he's a biased Avs fan. HOWEVER, if you had to choose between two star forwards or a star forward and a star defenseman you'd be silly not to remember what Crosby and Malkin have accomplished or Teows and Kane, or Ovi and Backstrom, or Stamkos and Kucherov... Long story short, McDavid and Leon > MacKinnon and Makar.

[@pritok6]

I would choose mcdavid and makar lol

[@zaneps151]

Considering Mac David and Leon dragged that team to the WCF, id say they’re the better duo

[@Draksie]

right, if rangers lose I blame Corwin, how dare he side with us 😂

[@larrywilliams8063]

Kane's suspension was garbage. Yes, he has history, but Trouba has headshot half a dozen people this year without any discipline from the league. Ovechkin and Wilson have given some dirty hits this year also and got nothing out of it because the league wants him to break the goals record. Will it affect Kane's future contract, I'm sure, but that was a soft call compared to what the league has allowed.

[@dxzxax8772]

i love all these guys, keep the convos going

[@Asymmetrical-Saggin]

LEAFS?? LMFAO. the Loaffs are just as piss poor today as they was this past season. Lets be real. Loafs aren't winning another cup for years and years and years hahahahaha

[@Dibby0156]

Is that a Pios jacket from Luca?!

[@taz8504]

Mika is easily a top ten center. Easily

[@CodiTC]

Nah.

[@mariannejtv2730]

Thank you for these podcasts! You guys have made me start following the NHL a little more, I like the different perspectives, relaxed atmosphere and the fact that you cheer for your own teams but still also analyze things in a more objective way. Hoping for more quizzes though, too!

[@srgmonitoring7911]

How these four get paid to talk hockey is craziness.

[@reapered4683]

You don't build a team around a team that's the west toronto on some horrible deals you can't pay someone 12.5mil and expect to build a team around that not going to happen. I get he is the best player, but you handicap what your team can do a sign, they are super lucky draisaitl is at 8.5mil. Honestly Holland needs to be fired and someway somehow get rid of nurses deal. I mean you have 15 players signed and 7 mil to spend they are in trouble.

[@frankiepetrone9180]

Will you be doing a 2022 season quiz after the season ends?

[@anthonymoring7061]

I thought the Rangers were the dark horse of the East. They're the Champs of my bracket.

[@jonathanmichaud9168]

For the Jersey discussion gotta be the Crosby golden goal jersey for sure

[@nfslegend_7]

You guys should do a series on nhl redrafts where you go through past drafts and put players in the spot of where they should of been

[@frankthegamer3frankthegame149]

Let’s GOO DZ AND JESSE RANGERS WINNIGN THIS CUP

[@jonbod8996]

Luca is a full clown when it comes to his opinion, dude is just painfully biased

[@smithryansmith]

He is embarrassing. He cant even give credit to the one team that stood up to his.

[@lucacelebre88]

Thanks Jon, appreciate the kind words. I’m an Avs fan through and through and yeah not giving any credit to the Blues because of what happened with Kadri and their fans. So if that bothers you sorry.

[@jonbod8996]

@@lucacelebre88 blaming an entire fan base and org off people who may not even be blues fans is so weak

[@lucacelebre88]

@@jonbod8996 it’s only part of the reason, I wasn’t as high on the Blues as everyone else was because their D-core isn’t great and I thought Binnington wasn’t as good as he was in the Cup run. I’ve said it that Binnington proved me wrong, but that entire series, aside from Game 2, the Avs were the better team. St Louis lost 3 games on home ice in the series. Their depth didn’t scare me as much because of how deep Colorado was, so 9 20-goal scorers is fine in the regular season but to me it wasn’t going to be a challenge. I’ll give the Oilers a ton of credit, I think beating Calgary was a shocker and they didn’t do it in a way where it felt like they got lucky. They went toe to toe with them and were outstanding.

[@jonbod8996]

@@lucacelebre88 should I blame all Aves fans and team for some saying Binnington deserved/were happy to see him hurt? Also blues being healthy makes that a much closer series, Oilers moved on more with Calgary way underperforming

[@kpopct25]

Hoping for another podcast soon about the playoffs and one about possible of season trades!

[@OILERS646]

Canadas team

[@adamsalim2989]

lol no

[@OILERS646]

@@adamsalim2989 lol yes

[@joemcleod3853]

I get Luca's 'loser point', mainly because defence wins championships and Makar is a number 1 defencemen.

[@rosellacobiskey2484]

As a Washington Caps fan, they did exactly what we all thought they would, but I think we all know where the cuts need to come now. We have so much talent, and we really, really need a goalie.

[@insertgenericusernamehere2402]

We've got to make many cuts tbh. With willy out till January/February. Hags an uncertainty if he will ever come back, backys hip... We need some cap space. We need some depth. We need a better tendy for sure. Only issue is. Who.

[@tonycaniggia]

@@insertgenericusernamehere2402 Ville Husso

[@dulla8469]

my panthers jersey is feeling really cold right about now

[@Lasita1995]

Z saying that Corwin won't have a redemption arc in this episode...like Corwin knows what he's doing, he's the Heel of the group (as Luca would say). Corwin is The MIz of the group, he's aware that people don't like his takes and he goes into that. There's times where he has face turns, but he always comes back and says, "GOTCHA!!!! WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE? I AM!!!" But no, I do enjoy Corwin and he seems like a cool guy to hang out with outside of work and doing all this, but on screen he knows what he's doing.

[@kaspian911]

He Disappointed by Edmonton and gives props to Toronto? Wtf?

[@jackfilippi1970]

Wow Luca doesn’t know hockey. His bracket has to be the worst I’ve ever seen

[@lucacelebre88]

It’s almost like sports are, wait for it, unpredictable

[@lauramiller5248]

Ranger fan for 50 years and counting! This is their year!

[@dantheman55i46]

🫣

[@faynarx]

This Corwin dude is a massive clown lol

[@Junketsuadidas]

Corwin is the king of bad takes

[@Tommique]

This, this right here... best NHL content online. Love U guys!

[@scottcameron174]

God yes 82 games is ridiculous the only reason it's that many is the greed of the owners. No reason for 82 games the fact that they had 84 games is psychotic to me.

[@charliecushman9193]

Why is Jessie the only one who actually knows hockey

[@TheKeeperofKeyss]

I enjoy every game I get to watch, if I could watch all 82 games for the team I root for every year I would. I don't understand the "bored" with the regular season perspective at all.

[@moneydynamicmatanya9541]

Hey Bardown! Has anyone ever told you that Luca looks a little like Mika Zibanejad? Lol

[@brandondaamen9369]

Im a tampa guy but me and d had a very similar bracket except i picked the pens and oilers :) other than that the exact same

[@righteous247]

Rangers definitely gelled at the right time. I compared them to Minnesota, a little ahead of schedule but could surprise a few teams. They're interesting for sure

[@ougabouga1790]

I bleed orange and blue, but I hundred percent agree with Jesse on the oilers. Yes it was a great run these playoffs, but we are by far not there yet.

[@ToastedFlowers]

Oilers suck but have arguably the best 4 man PP unit on earth. McJesus - Dryside - Kane - Nurse. The dynamic duo is being taken to the cleaners by Oilers management by giving them literal drifters to play with. Reminds me of the 07 Penguins.

[@CorbinFiber]

If the rangers were frauds, they would have been swept by Pittsburgh. They’re in Eastern Conference Finals for a reason. They are my second favorite team behind a team that is no longer in the playoffs (Bruins). P. S. The rangers are up 2-1 as of now on the lightning, the back to back Stanley Cup champs. If they beat Tampa, that just goes to show they are legit

[@milanek1527]

2-2

[@nikevisor54]

Damn, DZ lookin' nice. Buddy's got an absolutely crisp fit

[@davidfitzpatrick6535]

TBH if we're talking awards I think there needs to be two dman awards because I feel like the Norris trophy only benefits players that are offensive d but they ignore dmen that may not get on the score sheet often but are great d men such as Rielly

[@sandymaidens2421]

Yeah a defensive defenseman award that should go to Slavin every year for fairly obvious reasons

[@elwizschold]

Corwin Jagr making headlines

[@ceannawood1630]

Can we talk about players playing with injury?? Especially in playoffs…

[@angrydalailama6089]

In retrospect, Naz was the one that got away. Leafs lost that trade. HOWEVER, they arguably had to trade him after 2 consecutive playoff suspensions (and round 1 losses). Not necessarily a "bad" trade.

[@jamminninja8924]

"oilers fans are gonna come out of this thinking they are closer then they are " - bunch of leafs homers. let me ask you this oh people of the Toronto Sports Network. how close are your gods the leafs? last time i checked 18 years without a playoff series win is nothing to brag about

[@c_w3377]

Edmonton needs a goalie bad

[@paulgiarmoleo1309]

Calls the rangers frauds how are the leafs doing bud

[@matthewbrown6397]

Hockey bros need to stop talking about basketball... I don't understand why TSN loves doing this. "who scored the most points in the nba this year, no one cares" Well NBA fans do, it was Trey young, and your boi derozan was second, and in 8 less games Embiid had like 100 less than young, which is interesting. Seriously it's like saying, no one cares about gaa, when save % exists. It's just ignorant.

[@angelogabrielorense2365]

I think your right Jesse, they should get a good goalie and a better defense that can seal the deal for the Oilers, well that's also my opinion XD

[@BradJump]

Jesse you're an absolute beauty, keep doing what you're doing. Luca if your boy didn't run Binner it's a different series. Tired of everyone sleeping on the Blues. The only team in the West that put up a fight against the Avs.

[@coolcats367]

LET'S GO RANGERS

[@davidwood1100]

As a Rangers fan I thought they would pick Pitt but probably lose to Carolina.

[@SoulO117]

Lmao they ain’t got nothing to apologize for😂 the rangers almost blew two straight series against 3rd string goalies…everyone knows it was just luck🤷🏼‍♂️

[@paigenewman7313]

Love the DU Champ hat Luca! Go Pios! Go Avs!

[@ryanrecher6542]

Cue all the backhand compliments to the Rangers . Lol

[@joefinished9884]

Mika > Austin

[@kredmo17]

As a couple other comments say, props to Jesse for mentioning the blues… (yes diehard blues fan here) the fact that nobody (I get Luca not saying anything) said a word or kept the discussion on the blues for more than 15 seconds is disgraceful… the only team to not get swept by the avs, and 2 very close games away from actually winning… the binner hit changed that series and for the blues to take it from 3-1 to 5 seconds from ot and possibly forcing a g7 and not get any respect is horrendous… nobody can physically tell me that putting the blues 7th on their lists and then having the oilers get swept by the team they got 2 games off of, and the eastern conference being a cake walk, u can’t tell me the blues should be 7th… if I were to have an unbiased list it’d be this: COL/TAM/FLA/STL/CAR/NYR/EDM/CAL… horrible from the team for not taking more time to discuss the fact that the blues were the second best team in the west this year… and also, for everyone that picked the wild, what a joke, we swept reg season no way we were gonna lose to those bums… I rest my case

[@cdaack]

Fellow diehard Blues fan here, and I can get behind everything you said minus ranking the Blues ahead of the Rangers...there's no way we were playing than them at all. The Rangers have practically been scoring at will and holding more than their own against the best looking team in the playoffs right now. Tamp is an absolute buzzsaw and the Rangers are taking it to them.

[@JMdrumz71]

Nice Leaf hat, how'd that work out for ya? LMAO

[@awesomematthews1238]

It worked out pretty incredible. How many teams can say they took Tampa to 7 and lost by one goal? How many teams had a 60 goal scorer and ended up with 115 points in the season. Try harder to troll. Maybe pick on a team that actually does suck.

[@JMdrumz71]

@@awesomematthews1238 How many post season series wins - 0 Your stats don't mean sh*t , Leafs are not built to in the post season. Not trolling, stating fact so STFU!

[@mcjesus5603]

I’m still happy my team aka oilers proved them all wrong

[@mason17hockey]

i hate the ranges but i hope they beat tampa bc i like montreal and we all know what happend last season😢

[@noahwolfe5300]

Jesse is SUCH a closet Leafs Fan

[@NicoCdawg]

Not hating on what you said Jesse you're absolutely right

[@Xerdoz]

Do you think Panthers could've made it if Quenneville was still around?

[@ethanmccabe8740]

It’s been 48 hours and I still can’t find 10 centers better than Zibanejad rn Mackinnon McDavid Matthews Marner Draisaitl Crosby Point Barkov And I think zibanejad is in the next grouping with Aho, Bergeron, and Barzal

[@robertwoodward6511]

Should cut down the regular season games and replace the gaps with a mid season cup like as football has

[@dustinhelton7402]

Just a reminder of how humble Canadians are…especially since the drought continues

[@acerock013]

As we go into Game 4 of the ECF where NYR put up more goals in the first game than Florida in an entire series...this video aged like milk. But please, keep hating on us. We like it.

[@Stangin300]

“ we like it “ like you suited up 😂

[@Agent7300]

@@Stangin300 he did i was there

[@nadaduo1765]

@@Stangin300 😂

[@christyouredumb956]

😂

[@nmarples1421]

I absolutely agree about the Oilers take. Beating Calgary showed heart, it showed this team had pieces to succeed, but getting stomped by Colorado showed that the Defence and especially goaltending just doesn’t hold up. I hope Holland finds replacements to keep the offence at top 3 level (it was a top 3 offence in the NHL), but focuses on fixing that defence and goaltending. (Literally need to replace Barrie and Keith with two decent dmen and that core is great, keep Kulak, Bouchard, Nurse (when healthy) and ceci).

[@Emma-lb2mu]

speaking from months in the future with new (and way improved) goalies, i 100% agree. i’ve definitely become more of a fan over the summer since the playoffs, so it’s safe to say i was overly salty about the loss to the avs, but with our goalie it made complete sense. even with how campbell’s been doing, things are looking up. i think losing kane for half the season will really hit us hard, but hopefully (like you said) defence and campbell will step up so that’s one less thing we need to worry about this season.