Choosing the RIGHT SHORT PATCHES to make your strings SOUND REAL

[@BrettWMcCoy]

It's really cool to see how this gets worked out with a live player. There's always a temptation to overuse shorts when doing mockups and it can get repetitive ... using variations like you did really helps the music breathe and feel more expressive.

[@michaelhackethal8187]

Dear Alex, thank you for letting me sit in with you and Clara. I felt like being with you in the room. It gave me so much motivation and a new focus on details. Were it not for my advanced age, I'd try and do whatever I could to study this material myself at a university. These discussions are so enlightening. Very well done! Keep going and all the best for you and your projects!

[@BrettWMcCoy]

I wrote some "metal music for cello" once, and I could see that the guys in the orchestra playing it were totally headbanging 😀

[@felipemorenomusic]

0:26 Intro 0:46 Staccato, spiccato 2:35 Trills, Marcato 4:01 Staccato, portato short, marcato short 6:04 Spiccato, ricochet 8:08 Staccato, marcato, portato L and S 9:29 Staccato, marcato, spiccato 11:07 Whole piece 12:20 Programing intro 12:41 Cello programing 14:29 Vlns, Vlas programing 15:32 Dbass programing 16:32 Whole piece Great video!! I definitely will have to check it again!

[@मंजू-त7च]

Thank You Very Much! 🙂🙏

[@KennethGonzalez]

This is a fabulous demonstration video. It provides real insight into the interplay between composer and performer, especially when it comes to vetting the composer's intentions. I've really enjoyed this series and the channel overall! Thank you so much 👍😁👍

[@JoeKataldo]

This is the best way to learn how to make mock-ups. Some of the confusion comes from the fact that sample library companies often call spiccato the shortest staccato articulation (staccatissimo), and mislabel other articulations too. This is why learning how to write for live musicians first, will improve your mock-ups.

[@alexlamymusic]

100%. Sampled spiccato is almost its own category now, just trying to get louder and shorter and edgier than would ever be possible in a passage in real life. There's nothing wrong with that, but being aware that it's not a 'realistic' sound is a good thing, and does help you put realism into your music elsewhere.

[@ridgero]

Dear Alex, this channel is wonderful, thanks to you and your team for your great effort! Clara is a wonderful cellist, wow. The content compilation of this channel is so good, very well edited, very humorous and authentic. I especially like that you illustrate the technical stuff very well graphically besides playing it. I appreciate everything very much

[@alexlamymusic]

Thanks, it's great to hear that - it makes us very happy that it all comes across well!

[@cherrysound]

Amazing lesson! Thank you so much! And great piece of music too! 🎉

[@val_de_mez]

Great as always. Also you guys have great chemistry. Thanks for the video!

[@aaronbird9437]

Great piece of music! Clara is amazing! And I'm learning things I didn't know i needed to learn.... thank you!

[@alexlamymusic]

Thank you! And yes, Clara is awesome!

[@Immersed_Dimensions]

Yes indeed

[@JESSEROYAL]

Love that piece! Inspiring to watch it all come together! Sounds great

[@alexlamymusic]

Thanks! Was really fun to do it!

[@thinkingfield]

Another great video! I am not sure Clara knows just how metal it was to put in that measure of ricochet notes!! Brutal skipping. But maybe she does know!! 🤘

[@virtual.orchestration]

She knows!

[@yaroslav_kniazev]

Hello guys! As always informative, clear and interesting! Thanks for the lessons, good luck!

[@virtual.orchestration]

Thanks! 😃

[@Gaby-Lopez]

good for Clara! and good piece of music!

[@omarirm]

wowwww great, great work!!! Thanks!

[@christock1973]

thanks for the amazing video - would have loved to hear mockup with live cello mixed in

[@virtual.orchestration]

Thank you so much for your appreciation. And yeah, we have that just at the end of the legato video.

[@anatomicallymodernhuman5175]

Helpful.

[@ChiefZika]

Haven't seen the vid yet, but this came in at a very good time lol, I've been working on a mock-up and was wondering if I was using the right shorts. Edit: Good video. Very cool arrangement by the way, I especially liked the percussive hits on the basses using col legno and ricochet! Didn't know that was possible.

[@gotmoresoul]

Clara's awesome

[@virtual.orchestration]

She truly is .

[@mavrosmusic]

Again great video and an inspiring piece of music. I was slightly confused about your notation. Although you make it clear by adding the word Marcato above the staff, I thought it is usually notated with a vertical wedge whereas the one you are using, the horizontal wedge, is used to notate an accent. In most virtual libraries you only have Marcato samples and maybe Sforzando. If you would use a scoring software instead of Logic it is import however to make the difference between the two wedge types as the accent will probably result in a louder note (both for long and short) with higher velocity and the Marcato wedge will evoke the marcato sample for the notes with the wedge on it. Adding Marcato above or below the staff will in most scoring programs overwrite the wedge type used however.

[@alexlamymusic]

Interesting! I’m sure there are times where the vertical symbol is used, but I don’t commonly see it in scores, especially in film music. In most cases the accent on a long note is going to indicate what you want to the player - along with the type of music. Maybe if there was a stylised piece going between staccato and marcato with other accents then it would make a lot of sense to use both markings. Otherwise I’d probably actually use the word marcato in a score, over the vertical wedges. It’s quite a good solution for notation programs dealing with different samples though!

[@mavrosmusic]

Have a look at the John Williams scores for Star Wars and Harry Potter. Both the vertical and horizontal wedges are used to great extend sometimes accompanied by the indication Marc. which is also used without any wedges which leaves a lot of room for interpretation.

[@GetPianoLessons]

What digital source are you using for the cello sounds on your keyboard? Is that the Berlin strings product?

[@alexlamymusic]

Yes, Cellos was mainly using Berlin Strings with a little bit from Metropolis Ark 4, the Berlin Strings expansions, and then some of Berlin Symphonic Strings for the Basses.

[@andrewwainwright8818]

Great video! Which string library were you using?

[@alexlamymusic]

Berlin Strings mainly, with some Metropolis Ark 4 and Berlin Symphonic Strings for the Basses

[@Crimzan4]

Loving the series!! I have recently bought Berlin Strings. Did you do the ricochet section in the celli using the Spiccato Serial Articulation?? It sounds impressive!

[@alexlamymusic]

Thank you! Actually I used Metropolis Ark 4 for the Ricochets. I think I did use the Spiccato Serial Articulation in the violins there as well. It's a great, realistic sounding patch for when you have constant patterns of short notes.

[@Crimzan4]

@@alexlamymusic Ah okay great, thank you for the info! Love how well these different libraries blend together!

[@walman9356]

@@alexlamymusic I wonder how that worked out since Ark 4's Celi comes with Basses baked into it an octave lower.

[@alexlamymusic]

@@walman9356 I used the Mid Strings for the Cello ricochets, they’re not in octaves. It’s probably hard to see but if you full screen the last bit of the video the track labels show the patch names. BS = Berlin Strings, MA4 = Metropolis Ark 4, and so on.

[@walman9356]

@@alexlamymusic I appreciate the clarification this is really helpful!

[@PaulieDC]

This doesn't help Alex. At this point I'm going to sell everything, buy great mics and just hire Clara. 🤣

[@virtual.orchestration]

Well. Good luck and say hi to Clara from us.