Choosing Your Arabic Learning Path: Bayna Yadayk vs. Medina Books - A Comprehensive Guide

*Title:* "Choosing Your Arabic Learning Path: Bayna Yadayk vs. Medina Books - A Comprehensive Guide"
*Description:*
In this enlightening video, داود بن روي Daud Burke delves into the crucial decision every Arabic learner faces: selecting the right curriculum to start their language journey. He explores the merits and considerations of two renowned Arabic learning series, "Bayna Yadayk" and the "Medina Books," offering invaluable advice for students of knowledge embarking on their Arabic learning path.
Daud emphasizes the importance of learning Arabic for understanding the Quran and Islamic texts directly, highlighting how this knowledge can deepen one's relationship with Allah and provide a solid foundation for independent religious study. He provides practical tips on getting started with Arabic, including focusing on commonly used Quranic vocabulary and leveraging modern tools like the Quranic app for initial word acquisition.
The video compares the structure and teaching approach of "Bayna Yadayk" and "Medina Books," noting how each can suit different learning styles and goals. "Bayna Yadayk" is praised for its extensive vocabulary and exposure to various texts, making it ideal for learners seeking to enhance their reading and comprehension skills. On the other hand, the "Medina Books" are recognized for their systematic approach to Arabic grammar and sentence structure, beneficial for those looking to build a strong grammatical foundation quickly.
Daud shares his personal learning experience, underscoring the significance of understanding over memorization and the advantages of combining different resources for a more rounded Arabic education. He advises on supplementing textbook learning with practical applications and reading materials to broaden vocabulary and exposure to the language.
The video concludes with encouragement for learners to embrace the journey of Arabic learning, highlighting the lifelong benefits and spiritual fulfillment it brings. Daud hints at future courses and the unmatched value of having a personal teacher while also acknowledging the wealth of online resources available for self-learners.
This guide is an essential watch for anyone looking to start or refine their journey in learning Arabic, providing clear insights into choosing the right educational path to meet their Islamic and linguistic goals.

[@Mek7699]

Ma sha Allah tbarakAllah great unique and deep content. You're doing great work

[@wyno2661]

Masha Allah!

[@cjshortsnsnips]

My humble advice for brothers and sisters is Patience. I stated with Al Arabiyyah Books but quickly changed to Madinah and I'm very happy because it slowly builds the foundation. I'm still in the book one and I'm am getting better and better at writing and reading and i well stick with them. After that I'll have the side books for reading and expressions. Everything else will come naturally so the goal is to have patience and patience.

[@farha-434]

How is your progress?

[@joharmuhammad2786]

Yes. I second you.

[@ayoubdavid]

Mashaaallah

[@ozone2126]

❤❤😊

[@abubakr7304]

السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته One thing you forgot to mention, the madinah Arabic book is just 1 book from the whole curriculum, the actual curriculum has many side books e.g. fiqh, seerah, tawhid, hadith, tabeer book and many more

[@DaudBurke]

‏وعَلَيْكُمُ السَّلامُ ورَحْمةُ اللهِ وبَرَكاتُه I think you mean the college curriculum there? Of course if some is in a full system that fills in much gaps, but tbh that’s not some most study alongside with the books as most are looking for an all-in-one get started package. Have you had experience with the other books as well?

[@abubakr7304]

​@@DaudBurkeI have not personally, but I have had a look at them, the only downside is the books are very outdated i.e the conversations will mention stuff like telegram and sending post cards etc.

[@DaudBurke]

Yea, that’s also in book like asaasi, but they have lots of convo in it and some stuff that’s not in line with islam.

[@omarniazi8518]

Assalamu alaykum wa rahmatillahi wa barakatuh. JazakAllahu Khayran akhi. Are you aware of any good online ways to learn the Bayna Yadayk books?

[@DaudBurke]

wa Aliekom Salam waRahmatullahi waBarakatuh Get an online tutor maybe from Egypt. Email me for a list

[@yahyamohamoud7290]

would you recommend doing arabic bayna yadayk book 4 I heard some say it is better to skip it and do more advanced books at that point

[@DaudBurke]

The text in it is good for gathering new words and the exercises could be of benefit as well. But at that point you should be studying other books for naho and sarf individually

[@yassinhassan336]

Assalamu alaykum, ustadh, could you recommend us some Arabic material for the sciences that you mention such as fiqh, usul al fiqh, mustalah al hadith etc that use Arabic on the level of the Madina books or Bayna Yadayk? I am currently wrapping up the 2nd Madina book and tried to follow lectures of Shaafi'i fiqh by shuyookh such as Dr Labib Najib, Shaykh Khalaf Mutlaq, Sheikh Hussam Lutfi Hamzah and others but I was lost in the language and the terminologies of the science, if you could suggest something that is suitable for beginners of Arabic as well as beginners in those sciences, it would be much appreciated. BarakAllahu feekum.

[@DaudBurke]

wa Aliekom Salam waRahmatullahi waBarakatuh That’s wonderful to hear and may Allah keep you in this journey and teach you. Each field has terms that won’t be used in the normal day to use of Arabic and I recommend taking an introductory class in English that incorporates the Arabic terms for each field at this stage then after that it’ll become more clear once the basic concepts are already understood in English with key Arabic words explained. I have a course in Abu Shujaa im uploading now, and I hope to do the beginning levels for all the sciences to bridge that gap. But others have done this as well. I’ll try to make a video of a roadmap for the beginning books soon inSha’Allahu

[@yassinhassan336]

Ameen yarab and to you as well ustadh. JazakumAllahu khayran for the advice and I look forward to your next uploads, your content has been very beneficial, may Allah make it heavy on your scale of good deeds.@@DaudBurke

[@a7adun-a7ad-allahis19]

Assalamu Aleykum warahmatullahi wabarakatu brother, my family and I moved to Egypt few months ago and We are looking a good Markaz that can teach us the Arabic language. I heard Furqan Markaz and ibaanah. I also heard Ibaanah is expensive. Do you know Furqan Markaz and how their teaching are. Do you have any suggestions about where to learn the Arabic language and also the correct Aqeeda.

[@DaudBurke]

wa Aliekom Salam waRahmatullahi waBarakatuh Furqan I hear is great and trustworthy as well as lisan alarab both of which are cheaper than their counterparts. I’ve not been in classes there but furqan has their own curriculum they teach and it’s more qawaaid heavy and the lisan uses bayna yadayk but in their own way. I have an aqeedah course here on which is in English and a good step, occasionally there are classes here in person but I warn you of falling into some clicks that can be overly difficult about who to listen to and who not to listen to. These end up wasting time and are more concerned with social clicks than the actual content they are supposed to be studying. Wallahu aalam

[@a7adun-a7ad-allahis19]

@@DaudBurke Baarakallahu feek

[@alfeas6728]

Don’t recite the Qur’an as if you’re singing. Fear Allah, practice your vocals in the recitation correctly. May Allah guide all of us.

[@DaudBurke]

ليس منا من لم يتغنَّ بالقرآن This has two understandings and I’m a shafi’i in this. As long as ahkam is applied and melodious tunes that aren’t tunes of actual songs ect…. It’s fine to beautify the voice.

[@shahinshah1907]

Stop this recitation mimicking singing! The Prophet (صلى الله عليه وسلم) has clearly prohibited this. Fear Allah nd remove that recording!

[@DaudBurke]

Please let me know what the hadith/evidence is if you can. Ive never came across a single text prohibiting what I do.

[@shahinshah1907]

@DaudBurke The way the qur'an is recited at the beginning of your video is very strange indeed. It is a very well-known fact among the Muslims that the qur'an should not be recited like singing (taghanni). The voice should be beautified, but the recitation should not resemble singing. This is the basics of tajweed, the Science of Qur'an Recitation, that every qur'an reciter learns when he studies qur'an recitation. I have found the following hadith for you regarding this: Hudhaifa ibn al-Yamaan narrates that Rasulullah sallallahu alaihi wasallam said, “Recite the Qur'an according to the clear and eloquent language of the Arabs. Recite it fluently without any pretension. Do not recite it according the singing tunes of the People of the Book (the Jews and the Christians), nor the tunes of ahl al-fisq ( the transgressors). Some people will come after me who will recite the Quran in the tunes of songs or like the recital of monks or like someone doing nawha (lamenting). Quran will not surpass their throats. Their own hearts will have fallen into fitnah and those who admire their recital will also have fallen into fitnah” (al-Tabarani in al-Awsaat, and by al-Baihaqi)

[@DaudBurke]

Hadith munkar daif I don’t know a single scholar that says it’s Sahih. As far as what you said about “well known” scholars define tajweed (which I implement) but as far as melodies go they don’t have a specific prohibition except mimicking a certain melody from a certain song. As far as melodies go it’s impossible to beautify the voice تغني except with some melody and no matter what there will be use of some maqaamat.. if you know Arabic I’d give you resources, but I’ve read what ibn katheer and ibn qayyim have to say and researched the subject a ton. This very weak hadith is the closest one can come to having any evidence to say that the only scales/maqamaat used have to be Arabic… and most reciters these days use other than Arabic scales such as farsi and the like…

[@shahinshah1907]

@DaudBurke Ruling on reciting according to the Maqaamaat: With regard to the ruling on reciting according to these maqaamaat, then it is not allowed to recite according to these musical maqaamaat. The following is a Fatwa: It is not permissible for the believer to recite Qur’aan with melodies like those of songs or in the manner of singers. He has to recite it as it was recited by our righteous predecessors, the companions of the Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and those who followed them in truth. So it should be recited with the proper intonation (tarteel), in a solemn and humble manner, so that it may have an effect on the hearts of those who hear it and on the heart of the reciter himself. Reading it in the manner or way of singers is not permitted. [Majmoo’ Fataawa wa Maqaalaat Mutanawwi’ah li Samaahat al-Shaykh al-‘Allaamah ‘Abd al-‘Azzez ibn ‘Abd-Allaah ibn Baaz, vol. 9, p. 290] Concerning that, Ibn al-Qayyim said in Zaad al-Ma‘aad fi Hadiy Khayr al-‘Ibaad (1/493): Everyone who has knowledge of the life of the early generations will know definitively that they had nothing at all to do with reciting Qur’an with musical tunes that require effort to learn and perform them and which are based on rhythmic movements and are measured, counted and have a specific limit. They were too pious to recite in accordance with those tunes and to allow that. It is known for certain that they used to recite Qur’an in a sad tone and in a joyful tone, and they would make their voices beautiful for the Qur’an, sometimes reciting in sad or joyful tones, or with a tone of longing. This is something instilled in and dictated by human nature, and the Lawgiver did not forbid it, because there is a strong natural inclination towards that.

[@DaudBurke]

As far as the first fatwa goes, saying is impermissible to recite with these basically is based on a misunderstanding of what they are, and the plausibility that one could possibly recite without using them. Every single reciter recites with them whether intentionally or unintentionally. Now if somebody was to intentionally force the Quran into of the scales without putting the Quran and its meaning first, or compromising the rules of tajweed for the sake of them, then this is blameworthy. But if it comes by a natural means of reciting beautifully, then there’s nothing wrong with that as long as it’s not mimicking, certain melodies of songs that are well known from the people of fisq. This is The fatwa of D. Yahya Ghawthani a specialist in the field of tajweed. حفظه الله Ibn baz رحمة الله عليه was not a specialist in the field of tajweed and gave this ruling according to his understanding but it’s clear that his interpretation of maqaamat is not based on the reality of the situation that it’s impossible to recite, or make any type of beautification of the voice except by using them. As far as ibn qayyim رحمة الله عليه says here, then there is no disagreement. As far as someone going out and learning the scales, then this is unnecessary, and if they were learning these scales with musical instruments, then that is Haram. But even the poetry of the Arabs were recited, according to certain scales, and these scales were the same ones that were used in reciting the Quran but since it’s natural from the natural state of humans there’s no problem with this. As far as my situation goes, I can’t unlearn what I learned. I spent 20 years studying music before coming into Islam. Coming into Islam, I put aside my musical ambitions and career. But the nature, inside of me, when reciting will always have an extra database to refer to when reciting. I can’t erase this, and for me to erase it would be nonsensical (ie. Recite monotonously). And what is natural for me might be unnatural for them. We don’t have recordings of the companions to hear how they recited. So we don’t know what melodies they used to see whether or not, they fit into one of these scales/maqaamat or not. But scientifically speaking, if someone were to recite with other than these, you will find an instinctive cognitive dissonance when listening to them. There’s a reason some music becomes popular, and other music is completely rejected. (Or say reciting if you’d like) If somebody sings off key the human nature is to hate it, such as if somebody is learning how to play violin it’s like scratching on the chalkboard until they learn the scales perfectly. Of course, I don’t condone music or studying it in great detail. But the fact that melodies carry harmony between notes and this harmony is what makes it beautiful and acceptable is a scientific fact that could be proven in laboratories, and we are commanded to beautify our recitation so anything that comes into this command as long as it does not go against another command or prohibition is also prescribed.