Chris Hipkins: "Māori did not cede sovereignty"

[@andrewking9435]

Why is there so much confusion with the treaty? This should have been put to bed ages ago so country to move on

[@turangatohiariki3042]

@@andrewking9435 IT'S The diffrent cultured people thinking not knowing when the TREATY was done & what it consisted of WHY THE CROWN UPDATED OUR 3PRINCIPALS PROTECTING MAORI PEOPLE LAND'S & EQUAL RIGHT'S & That was after the first Englishmen Came brought sold & stolen land's LAND DEED'S OWED TO THE BANK & ALL THIS MONEY TRADING & WE HAD NO SCHOOLING THE CROWN COULD SEE NEW ZEALAND WAS A MONEY GRAB WHY THRY PUT PROTECTING MAORI PEOPLE LAND'S & EQUAL RIGHT'S FROM DIFFRENT CULTURED WHITE PEOPLE TRYING TO GENOCIDE US & OUR TREATY WITH THE CROWN

[@michaeldonovan4712]

Andrew, please read my comment posted just before 8.15am to help answer your question

[@wikitoriasmith1713]

IMO. I can't see what the issues are. It's simple, fair and equitable. Te Tiriti, where the foundation heralds the way ahead. Honour the principles of engagement. History shows, honour by one party missing in action.

[@Fred-zw9kk]

@@wikitoriasmith1713 Yes, you are quite right that Maori have been missing in action when it comes to honouring the Treaty, even basic things like filling out a census form, or getting their kids to school, yet alone with a lunch and not beating them to death. And the other thing you missed is the bit about acting in good faith. When have we seen that by Maori, or the Waitangi Tribunal? Didn't cede sovereignty - really? Pull the other one...

[@gerradanania8270]

​@@Fred-zw9kk Pull the other one, how about you open your other eye! Enough of your one eyed racist views! Do your homework on the real history of New Zealand.

[@gavinbarryroycroft5209]

You had 6 years and done nothing

[@bighoose]

Farrrk up whinger, you sound like nobhead racist Luxon

[@Backwardseel]

Was given 6 years and did f all

[@rata4878]

Look what this coalition has done in 6months 💩 we dont even know whos actually running the country

[@plumbus813]

Maori ceded sovereignty (Article 1) and land (Article 2) in exchange for protection from other colonial empires and British citizenship (Article 3)

[@fraserwilson9852]

Crap

[@craignalder1850]

He obviously hasn't read article 1 of the Treaty of Waitangi. The wee lad needs to do his homework.

[@KAHouli-p1x]

This is why Labour got voted out among other things,

[@jasonpoihegatama1347]

Maori did not cede sovereignty but there's sovereignty now? "snake in the grass "

[@watsonrangi6236]

Of course making up as they go long from the beginning

[@dangerrayy]

Is there not sovereignty now?

[@jasonpoihegatama1347]

@@dangerrayy Well nothing saying there is according to Hipkins

[@dangerrayy]

@@jasonpoihegatama1347 according to Hipkins every nz citizen is under crown law. This has been the case for a long time despite Maori not ceding sovereignty. So where to from here is the question he says

[@watsonrangi6236]

@@jasonpoihegatama1347 what

[@cindiewatn8094]

Sad but important to hear Labour leadership acknowledge that they left Nanaia Mahuta alone to carry the mantle of 3 Waters

[@J.Smith-rc6wh]

3 waters was apartied brough into NZ. Nanaia was unelected for good reason. She was very lazy as minister of external affairs

[@ronaldwarren1267]

Why did this govt give them 800 million why the tax payer just rebuilt all there maraes

[@dangerrayy]

@@J.Smith-rc6wh how was 3 waters apartheid?

[@stephenlennon7369]

​​@@dangerrayypakeha making tiko talk 😅

[@dangerrayy]

@@ronaldwarren1267 probably for a small reperation for land that was stolen.

[@RobinLane-z9v]

Disgraceful behaviour from Morgan

[@arohataurerewa3020]

Chris mentions "one of the problems was that we left the minister responsible Nanaia Mahuta on her own to explain that. " Well that says a lot. The devil is in the detail and Chris does that well

[@TonyWhite-x3c]

They did for crown protection against slavery and the prospect of being eaten by other Maori tribes. FFS this is a historical fact.

[@Taepa5]

😅 The Historical Fact is 1840 Settlers were Running Amok causing Chaos and Maori asked the crown to do something about it before they did so a Treaty was created for the crown to Govern they British Subjects do you think 90,000 Maori would give they country to 2000 Permanently Drunk Lawless settlers? do your Research Einstien before you spread Moronic disinformation

[@fraserwilson9852]

Bullshit

[@erina4586]

Lies of the devil!

[@BC-tp8ep]

13 Maori chiefs wrote a letter to the king of England in 1831 asking for protection from other Maori tribes. Look it up! Let’s be honest, the Maori tikanga of the time was based on taking land by force, slavery, cannabilism and genocide - it wasn’t exactly the Bill of Rights. Not sure why Maori activists think that going back to tikanga is progress.

[@marcusclouth9958]

Labour is Te Pati Maori. Same vote. All other ethnicity in Aoteoroa can get stuffed

[@michaeldonovan4712]

Chipkins gives no examples or basis for his claim except to reference 3 totally biased points a). The courts b). the settlement process (Waitangi Tribunal) c). Acedemics. These 3 rogue points include severe ‘infiltration’ by Activist types Article One of the Treaty states that Sovereignty was clearly ceded What part of those words in English ( and word-for-word translated into Maori) do people such as CHipkins not understand??? All Politicians should be educated with the facts prior to being admitted into ( Beehive) office! Such facts would have to include their misuse of the incorrect rogue Freeman English version. Eg:-The only ( correct) English version that the Maori one was translated from is the confirmed Busby version ( often referred to as the Littlewood version, …. It was merely given to Littlewood by Busby for safekeeping).

[@wikitoriasmith1713]

Kaka!

[@Billythekiddnz]

Oh you a pakeha expert on maori clown. Stfu idiot. Just know what up lil man

[@rick-the-anglo-saxon]

@@wikitoriasmith1713 Nestor meridionalis

[@chrysallis317]

Incorrect. Do some research. Māori was the dominant language at the time & the Treaty in Māori had a different meaning to the English version.

[@richardbruce8111]

Thats EXACTLY why early Maori wanted to learn ENGLISH! Maori like many tribal unwritten languages have many multiple meanings to words!. Try to fix a microwave in Maori! NOW SING or write a poem in Maori ...great.... lets leave it at that!

[@marcusclouth9958]

Thanks Chris. For nothing😂

[@annemackay-ib4gy]

Why are you asking him, oh that's right cos he agrees with you.

[@ducker09]

This lad is usig we maori for his own political means. Enough is enough young man. Find another drum to beat . 6 years and you did nothing ..my advice is for you to stand back you had your chance and failed😮

[@stevehughes1510]

Chippy is a fool of epic proportions, constantly shoots himself in the foot, embarrassing to see as a NZer, just woeful.

[@barthanson3043]

Thank-you Chris (Hipkins). I'm a first generation New Zealander with Dutch heritage. This makes me whiter than most New Zealanders. I grew up in Christchurch, only became aware there were "Maori" people when I was about ten years old. I have followed the Maori struggle to have their Treaty of Waitangi rights honoured and recently became aware of a document that preceded the treaty "He Whakaputanga o Te Rangatiratanga o Nu Tirene" which clearly shows Maori thinking and intent to remain "Sovereign". I have not suffered one bit from the extra rights afforded to Maori since some of the treaty provisions have been upheld. I find it cruel, and dumb to see the current government's tail wagging the dog. This is a one term government for sure.

[@whatthe6532]

Dude your approach would be a disaster for this country. Best sit quietly in the cheap seats. Thank you.

[@CITA7687]

I hope they get voted out but they are stirring up racism and disinformation so catering to a large proportion of the voting public... much like Trump.

[@wikitoriasmith1713]

Barthanson. Such perception. Which is lost in big measures, by many Pakeha who have lived here a long time. Having worked with many refugees, they see what you see. And wonder why?

[@Fred-zw9kk]

Personally, your heritage is an irrelevancy, but you should learn a little more of our history and better understand Te Tiriti before spouting forth. Clearly you're all good with the proposed ethnocracy? It didn't work well in South Africa, and nor has it worked well since. You've also enjoyed the best that NZ has had to offer, and that didn't come about by dint of Maori endeavour, nor was it from your immediate ancestors it appears. I find it sad you can't see or don't fully appreciate the issues, but are happy to embrace a false woke narrative from a Marxist ideologue who, along with his colleagues, all-but bankrupted our country and have caused immeasurable damage. And on the history stuff, forget that which never got agreement, but study what went down on February the 5th & 6th in 1840 at Waitangi, and also what was discussed in 1860 at Kohimarama by the biggest meeting of Maori Chiefs in our history. Until you know something of that, I'd suggest you keep your warped opinions to yourself.

[@whatthe6532]

@@Fred-zw9kkalmost right. Māori and all have contributed to what NZ is today.

[@drh02]

What a coward.

[@paulobrien1560]

So if Maori didn't cede sovereignty how is the crown sovereign now. You're usually pretty good with the questions Moana but you failed big time on this one

[@dangerrayy]

How is a good question. But all New Zealanders or people of Aotearoa are under crown law aren't we. And so where to from here is the question.

[@XRPmaori]

Lack of knowledge. People do not care to deep dive or look into it more. Government just say how it is and people agree…until recent times 😂

[@rick-the-anglo-saxon]

Well that's easy. The Crown is sovereign because it came to New Zealand and, with the agreement of the natives (who were not a sovereigen authority) it extended the sovereignty of the British Crown to the territory that later became the State of New Zealand. The whole concept of native sovereignty is a myth. The collective Chieftainship of some 700 native chiefs does not amount to a sovereignty. No cession needed. Any other questions?

[@BigSnapper]

The crown is sovereign now by way of colonization and continued colonialism. NZ is a colonial occupation. In essence, the Crown’s sovereignty is a product of British colonialism, legislative reinforcement, and the practical establishment of control rather than any clear-cut agreement by Māori to fully cede their sovereignty. The Treaty remains a living document, and discussions around tino rangatiratanga versus Crown sovereignty continue to shape New Zealand’s legal and political landscape.

[@BigSnapper]

@@rick-the-anglo-saxon you're spreading myths, Rick. There are several issues with this argument, both from historical and legal perspectives: Māori Sovereignty Prior to 1840: The idea that Māori were not a "sovereign authority" is misleading. Māori had a complex system of governance through iwi (tribes) and hapū (sub-tribes) that effectively managed social, political, and economic matters. These structures exercised control over land, resources, and people, with a clear sense of tino rangatiratanga (chieftainship or self-determination). This aligns with sovereignty as understood in international law at the time. Further, in 1835, the Declaration of Independence (He Whakaputanga o te Rangatiratanga o Nu Tireni) was signed by several Māori chiefs and recognized by Britain, explicitly acknowledging Māori independence and sovereignty. British Recognition of Māori Authority: Britain recognized Māori authority explicitly in the Treaty of Waitangi. The Treaty was signed as an agreement between the British Crown and Māori chiefs, signifying that Britain saw Māori as political entities with whom they needed to negotiate. The Treaty (particularly in the Māori version) did not surrender sovereignty. Instead, it allowed for British governance over settlers while preserving Māori authority over their lands and taonga (treasures or cultural resources). Sovereignty and the Treaty Text: The term "sovereignty" is complicated by the differences between the English and Māori texts of the Treaty. The Māori text offered Māori "kāwanatanga" (governance), a term that suggests authority over settlers rather than total dominion. At the same time, Māori were promised continued tino rangatiratanga, which denotes full control and sovereignty over their own lands and resources. This significant linguistic and conceptual difference is central to debates today, as it demonstrates that Māori did not intend to give up full sovereignty. International Precedent and Indigenous Sovereignty: The idea that Indigenous peoples were not sovereign is a colonial-era argument that has since been widely challenged and largely discredited. In the 19th century, European powers often disregarded indigenous governance systems, but modern understandings recognize these as valid forms of sovereignty. International law has evolved to acknowledge indigenous rights, as reflected in documents like the United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples, which New Zealand has endorsed. Waitangi Tribunal’s Findings: The Waitangi Tribunal, after extensive research and testimony, concluded in its 2014 report that Māori did not cede sovereignty when signing the Treaty. The Tribunal’s findings reflect contemporary understanding of the Treaty and respect Māori views on governance, challenging the outdated notion that the Crown assumed sovereignty simply by arriving in New Zealand and reaching an agreement with Māori. Practical Assertion of Crown Authority Through Force: Historically, the Crown’s sovereignty was not peacefully "extended" across New Zealand; it was often enforced through military conflict, land confiscation, and legislation that marginalized Māori governance. The New Zealand Wars, for instance, were a direct result of Māori resistance to Crown encroachment on their land and authority. This violent assertion of power further undermines the argument that Māori voluntarily consented to complete Crown sovereignty. In short, the claim that Māori sovereignty is a "myth" ignores historical context, the actual wording and intent of the Treaty, and international principles of indigenous rights. It also disregards British acknowledgment of Māori authority before 1840 and subsequent legal and historical findings affirming Māori sovereignty over their lands and affairs. The argument fails to recognize that Māori saw themselves as sovereign and that the Treaty aimed to establish a partnership rather than a full transfer of sovereignty.

[@AKenton]

Effectively did cede sovereignty actually.

[@JamesClark-cg1qk]

You could argue that Maori did not have sovereignty to cede in the first place. Disparate, waring tribes controlled certain regions until they didn't. There was no notion of national unity. The ToW clearly states, in both languages, that the various chiefs did however, cede "sovereignty" to the Crown. The ToW could not be more explicit about that. As a result there would be one government, which they could participate in, and everyone would have the same rights and responsibilities. As Shane Jones says, the current debates around sovereignty are a nonsense.

[@manamaori100]

..And what of those that didn’t sign? clearly they didn’t cede sovereignty, Tuhoe for example.

[@JamesClark-cg1qk]

@@manamaori100 they didn't have sovereignty to cede.

[@susanpockett4314]

Article 1 of the Treaty of Waitangi says that Maori EXPLICITLY cede sovereignty. Hipkins is simply lying.

[@HeemiTeRuu]

Incorrect that is only the english text which is not the official text as barely any cheifs agreed to sign it!

[@Billythekiddnz]

The English is fake and was for the stealing of their lands maori interpretation is the true version agreed on. And also the one that holds under international laws of treatys

[@rick-the-anglo-saxon]

@@HeemiTeRuu Cession wasn't needed anyway; the treaty was more about ensuring the natives had somewhere to live after the territory was settled under the doctrine of discovery. You can't cede a sovereignty when you don't have one. Read a bit of British history that goes back a bit further than polynesians colonising and you'll realise that collectviely a bunch of tribes is a coooperative not a sovereign authority.

[@HeemiTeRuu]

@@rick-the-anglo-saxon go learn some māori history, this is not the UK

[@rick-the-anglo-saxon]

@@HeemiTeRuu There's none left... I've learned it all back as far as it goes. It's not like the UK where there's pre-roman history. Maori are 5 minute old migrant Polynesians in New Zealand.

[@michaeloxlarge4345]

Māori like my tupuna spoke and read English. They refused to sign the treaty because they saw disparity between the 2 versions. To bad most of the tribes (mostly nga puhi ) saw this as a chance to consolidate their own power over the other tribes of New Zealand by siding with the colonial powers. My tupuna went on to house the first Māori parliament at papawai marae. My ngati haua iwi was also the first to propose the kingitangi movement earning us the kingmaker title. Not all tribes of NZ agreed with the treaty. Māori have amazing opportunity today. People like steven Adams and taika Waititi are testament to this. harden up, move on, and make something of your life. Reinforcing victimhood will do nothing but keep our people asking and wanting .

[@Fred-zw9kk]

Yes, and the likes of Sir Apirana Ngata realised this and spoke of it around a century ago. There's nothing stopping Maori taking on the world and succeeding (just the other day we saw Lisa Carrington do just that), except Maori themselves. But wallow in victimhood and blame colonisation they do, all the while expecting someone else to pick up the tab. Strange how the likes of Willie Jackson, his ex who fronts this show, John Tamihere, and a host of others are all millionaires?

[@djlafg58]

Historian Paul Moon sums it up well: in the original understanding of the treaty, Maori did not cede sovereignty, this is the "originalist" view of the treaty, but AS the 1840S moved on into the 1850s, the crown began to set up mechanisms to govern the whole country and by doing this it had assumed that this would move sovereignty from Maori , whose iwi had sovereignty over their immediate occupation, to a New Zealand-wide whole country sovereignty that was needed for setting up a British understanding of the agencies required to control all citizens. In the 1850s the act giving these mechanisms of government. Maori had not understood that to sustain law and order and protect Maori from land speculators entailed the collective iwi no longer exercising sovereignty over NZ as a country. Apparently , there were instances where Maori objected to this process of transference of sovereignty, but it seems that Maori had acknowledged the inevitability of what was happening. ( Hope I have correctly explained Paul Moon's view of what happened!).

[@Billythekiddnz]

This guy wants his 500k

[@marcusclouth9958]

Chris Hipkins does awesome Haka. Chloe Darleen Marana announce free bikes😂😂😂😂😂

[@wilt1501]

Should have said this and done something about it when he was in power, not after the fact

[@susanpockett4314]

Article the first The Chiefs of the Confederation of the United Tribes of New Zealand and the separate and independent Chiefs who have not become members of the Confederation cede to Her Majesty the Queen of England absolutely and without reservation all the rights and powers of Sovereignty which the said Confederation or Individual Chiefs respectively exercise or possess, or may be supposed to exercise or to possess over their respective Territories as the sole sovereigns thereof.

[@Fred-zw9kk]

But Susan, that's just an inconvenient historic fact. You should know, they have re-written it since then, leastwise those who genuflect at the altar of Moana. 😄

[@burtcokain8439]

This is the Treaty of Waitangi, English version that only about 30 odd chiefs signed after discussing it in te reo Māori, and only because the Māori version wasn't there for them to sign. However, over 500 chiefs did sign copies of te Tiriti which was written and discussed, in te reo Māori, that simply being the language spoken here. In te Tiriti, there is simply no ceding of sovereignty by Māori to the British crown.

[@marcusclouth9958]

Get a chin tat an live on Marae for a year😂

[@manamaori100]

Why would a warrior race who had been here for hundreds of years before the arrival of the British and who developed a strong spiritual connection to the land cede sovereignty to strangers who had only just arrived?

[@haydsbeks6550]

Why wouldn't they? Not all maori were warriors! Blankets,guns,ovens and other colonial ways of living are the reasons they did!

[@hamishwarren3278]

@@haydsbeks6550true , there were only advantages to signing the ToW , my 5x great grandfather went to England and Australia and saw what could be as compared with what was and signed so we could all have what we have now. Respect the foresight of theses great Chiefs.

[@richardbruce8111]

Because the strangers had STUFF MAORI WANTED!,,iron ,pots .,fruit ,vegetables, clothes, boats blankets sheep horses, cattle , medicine , .....fish hooks!......a "GOD" as what was KIND!...free slaves ...Be HONEST WHO would not!

[@Gary-i9f]

Oh dear me Chippy , when you were in power you should have been all over this ......to much leg spreading was on your mind .

[@meadowfreshhmilk]

I did, but I'm English Irish scottish and Maori

[@RuaKore-rua-tahi]

Your a dog mate

[@marcusclouth9958]

Hipkins joins Te Pati Maori

[@marcusclouth9958]

Hipkins forgot about all Aoteoroa. He just for Maori. Labour joins Te Pati

[@rick-the-anglo-saxon]

You mean all New Zealand? There is no such nation state as Aoetearoa and no such nationality as Aotearoastillian.

[@CITA7687]

Something about his body language screams liar... as much as I'd like to believe that he genuinely believes what he is saying.

[@mervynpeka]

Maori are a political group....the individuals are nation staters of NZ. Period thus far.

[@seanpindred]

U say treaty principles important then u say there are no principles? What hell are U on? Dementia???

[@wikitoriasmith1713]

Old Winnie, reeling in the fish. Who all fall for any bait!

[@erina4586]

If NZ is going to start again clean, you would need to go right back to MAUI'S DISCOVERY of NZ during the 650AD approximately Time Period. His Canoe is on Mount Hikurangi. His Canoe was one of six Double-Hulled Canoes that arrived in NZ. One of the Canoes went to the South Island. I have the names of them.

[@PatrickQuartley]

Absolutely NO!!! Question

[@andreflavell3453]

Moana you went easy on him . This is the man along with JA that targeted Maori with KFC etc to get jabbed .You should be asking what relationship labour has with the WEF . why were they attending there conferences?

[@fumikoisadog3023]

😂😂 cooker says what?

[@andreflavell3453]

@@fumikoisadog3023 what ?

[@erina4586]

Mr Luxon WAKE UP! Maori did not ceed Sovereignty to the British!

[@marcusclouth9958]

Chris gets chin tattoo. And adopting 2 Moari kids😂

[@robertmariu6783]

Common sense shows maori didn't cede sovereignty ! 1 Whakaputanga showed maori understood sovereignty. 2 cedeing sovereignty would mean cedeing mana ! 3 a society of warriors who were the majority allowing to be subjects ? Blatant stupidity !!!

[@alanheaven6782]

Article 1 of the Treaty states that Māori signatories ceded “all the rights and powers of sovereignty” to the 'Queen of England'

[@richardbruce8111]

Yes a society of warriers, also WOMEN , SLAVES ,+ tens of thousands of "non warriers! who remembered 40 000 dead Become a "British Citizen" & become peaceful with access to all "western " stuff ....Nah Shall remain a fierce looting brigand ...you must be kidding! sidle up to the leading grifters & ask your self ,,, ,,,WHAT specifically do they want!

[@DojuOG]

How is He arguing an official document posted on the official Govt websites? It's "written in stone" "cede to Her Majesty the Queen of England absolutely and without reservation all the rights and powers of Sovereignty"

[@Harinui23]

@DojuOG how do you not know that the official document is Te Tiriti? By international Law and legitimacy, Te Tiriti takes precedence the Treaty, which over 500 Rangatira signed and 39 signed the Treaty due to Busby "forgetting" to bring Te Tiriti to the meeting in Port Waikato. The māori language was only spoken at this signing and was focused on Te Tiriti not The Treaty, so the Rangatira signed in good faith.

[@marcusclouth9958]

In best interests of all Aotearoa. Resign Chris Hipkins

[@johnnyrarere]

If Hipkins speaks Te Reo ....Game Over ...if any Labour Pakeha speaks Te Reo ...Game Over ...TPM with Labour will take over

[@taurusfilms.5658]

Chippy chipping away dysfunctionally

[@AntoinetteIndiraEdwards]

No comment ! This is just awful ! Jacinda let NZ go to ruin !

[@johnnyrarere]

The Treaty and Te Tiriti are not the same ...Tiriti signed by Hundreds v Treaty signed by a few ...Toitu te Tiriti

[@jasonmarshall7572]

Silly Man If they did not cede then they are not British citizens which meant they don't get social housing, they don't get social welfare or doctors nor hospitals nor police help In fact if they did not cede sovereignty Māori should of lived on there own lands and made there own laws and made there own banks and money or kept trading but they would have not been given any education etc. All this was offered if they ceded sovereignty which made them British citizens which comes with all those things i mentioned along with the protection of Great Briton against exploitations or attacks from other countries without ceding sovereignty they wouldn't even be able to fight claims in the land court which was made by the New Zealand Government for the protection of Māori so all the things the government has done would not be allowed to exist

[@paulhobson2306]

It was sad Mahuta was left alone to complete the task of 3 waters, Kieran would have been my choice

[@kencoveny7965]

I think she (Nanaia M) asked for that.

[@wokesick]

Complete the task? This will only ever lead to a partied if this carry on carries on.

[@Fred-zw9kk]

Kieran is a bare- faced liar and no different from all those others that claimed it would make 3 Waters cheaper and that the Treaty obliged us to give Maori a say so and co-governance/control over it. NB. Not one of them (National included) has produced one shred of proof on the latter. Of course, all Maori ultimately wanted was to clip a royalty on it - as per usual, something for nothing.

[@rayallan8481]

Leaders of the Labor party and Green and the so called Maori party how do thay sleep at night after what thay have done to owe country! Shame on you all

[@geofflewis8599]

The ToW - the original document - is not part of NZ law, neither does it have any standing in international law.

[@volnay853]

That is pure denialism

[@tukuaogawiki-pasene6626]

Even people that deny the treaty’s legitimacy understand it’s a legal document. Why don’t you get that?

[@geofflewis8599]

@@volnay853 ..sorry, you are deluded, probably brain-washed through one of out tertiary institutions..

[@herbiemihaka6763]

Maori should go straight to the crown not the government why speak to Def ears go to the throne

[@wokesick]

Exactly. The crown rests on the Kings head. Go to England and to the house of Lords for your treaty arguments.

[@wikitoriasmith1713]

Stupid, the govt acts on behalf of the Crown.

[@Tc-zb8ht]

Expert on Sausage rolls but can't tell us "What is a Women" 🤡

[@robertmariu6783]

2000 pakeha 125000 maori / commonsense !!!

[@barrygeary9362]

WE NEED a police system like the Philippines they dont have crime problems

[@marjorie666]

Do you mean the same Phillipines where corrupt President Duterte jailed drug users and dealers in unfair trials while he and his family secretly benefitted financially from the importation of meth? That Phillipines?!

[@marcusclouth9958]

Praise the lord Hipkins gone.

[@montz6743]

Thankyou Moana

[@marcusclouth9958]

Hipkins gets chin tat and Samoan leg tat😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@marcusclouth9958]

Chris any Samoan. Chinese. Tonga.

[@turangatohiariki3042]

The Aotearoa show have the perfect teaching methods & book with NEW ZEALAND who we are how we got here & the migration of diffrent culture's & the diffrence's

[@bighoose]

Aotearoa is our official name, indigenous will always come first. NZ is a misspelt name from a Netherlands slave port, we're moving away from the foreign coloniser forced names back to our authentic heritage now and for another 700 years

[@kencoveny7965]

@@bighoose Maybe we (non indigenous) should just go and leave you to it, going to be a bit tough earning enough tax when there is only 17% of the population eh bro? No KFC then, just kumaras and world aid to live on.

[@wokesick]

@@bighoose Aotearoa is not the official name of New Zealand. Maori are not indigenous to New Zealand. 750 years or so isn't enough time make it so. And Maori did concede sovereignty. Happily, to avoid warring tribes eating them and stealing their wives.

[@bighoose]

@@wokesick Incorrect, we don't do "I'm white and I say so" around here. Which country did you flee from btw? Aotearoa and indigenous will always be first, we're softening the racist colonisers pillow as you're put to pasture

[@stephenlennon7369]

​@@wokesickhonky Boi 😅

[@ClydeJacobs-q8j]

Hold up learning ABC is wrong

[@jamesgates5474]

He's absolutely right.

[@Fred-zw9kk]

You must be a very sad individual? Someone, that deluded must be.

[@BigSnapper]

@@Fred-zw9kk Projection. Take the blindfold off Fred.

[@djpomare]

Co-governance is in the treaty. Brits replaced rangatiratanga (run by local chiefs) into sovereignty (run by UK royals). The treaty house was set on fire but the treaty document still exists showing the details along with its burnt frayed edges. We've tried the colonial system for a hell of a long time and now is the time to give the actual documented deal a fair go. My tipuna, Pomare signed the treaty on 15 Feb 1840 and we're still waiting. Focus on getting in the waka and working together - Kiingi Tuheitia.

[@murraythompson4386]

It says very clearly in article one that maori ceded sovereignty. All it means then, and now that all NZers are equal, end of story!!

[@XRPmaori]

I’m a proud kiwi but that British government have become too corrupt. Maybe it’s time we start looking into it more